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Techmasta
01-16-2004, 10:26 AM
I'm getting a SL6WF 2.4c and P4P800 Deluxe. I'm also getting 256x2 of Corsair XMS PC3200 rev1.1 which is confirmed to have BH-6 chips. I know that the P4P800 doesn't have very good vdimm options and I'll likely do the vmod later on. But should this ram be able to get me to 250fsb at 2.85 volts? And just so you know I'm not going to Intel forever. AMD is still my favorite.

The Stilt
01-16-2004, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Techmasta
But should this ram be able to get me to 250fsb at 2.85 volts?

With 5:4 divider, but 1:1 is impossible...

Techmasta
01-16-2004, 11:24 AM
Is 1:1 possible with more volts?

The Stilt
01-16-2004, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Techmasta
Is 1:1 possible with more volts?

With 3.2V - 3.5V I wouldnt be suprised if it could do that :)

Tedinde
01-16-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by The Stilt
With 3.2V - 3.5V I wouldnt be suprised if it could do that :)

With BH6?? I've had good BH6 to 225 with a lot of volts. But it's been a year since i've had any b6.

But then who know's Max i was putting in the BH6 was Epox 8rda's max not volt modded. Maybe 3.5v might do something for it.

Shane5578
01-16-2004, 01:16 PM
do bh6 show as pc2700 in cpuz?

Techmasta
01-16-2004, 02:06 PM
Some people have been getting Hyperx PC3000 with bh-6.

Soulburner
01-16-2004, 02:34 PM
220 2-2-2-5 2.9v

230 2-2-2-5 3.0v

240 2-2-2-5 3.15v

250 2-2-2-5 3.3v

That's usually approximately how it goes...if you are hoping for 250 2-2-2-5 2.85v, you're dreaming...

Techmasta
01-16-2004, 02:44 PM
Hey soul how about 250 2-2-2-5 2.85v 5:4?

Soulburner
01-16-2004, 02:46 PM
That will work fine.

ThePimpulator
01-17-2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Techmasta
Hey soul how about 250 2-2-2-5 2.85v 5:4?

Dont even use extra voltage in that case. Are you not running the RAM in spec? Or do you need the extra for the timings?

ThePimpulator.

Techmasta
01-17-2004, 01:58 PM
I don't have all the parts yet. Should be here next week some time. But they need considerable voltage to run tight timings at high fsb.

nfin1te
01-17-2004, 02:56 PM
guys these are bh-6, not bh-5, i had bh-6 on my old kingston value ram pc2700, i would say 230 MAX with lots of volt. (didnt make 200 @ 2.9)

Techmasta
01-17-2004, 03:21 PM
Well considering its PC3200, if it doesn't run 200 with stock voltage then I'm rmaing it.

Grace
01-17-2004, 04:19 PM
guys these are bh-6, not bh-5, i had bh-6 on my old kingston value ram pc2700, i would say 230 MAX with lots of volt. (didnt make 200 @ 2.9)

Most BH-6 behave even better than BH-5 at high voltages.


Originally posted by Tedinde
With BH6?? I've had good BH6 to 225 with a lot of volts. But it's been a year since i've had any b6.

But then who know's Max i was putting in the BH6 was Epox 8rda's max not volt modded. Maybe 3.5v might do something for it.

Probably it was the motherboard.;)

ValueRAM at 3.45v screenshot incoming...

nfin1te
01-17-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Grace
Most BH-6 behave even better than BH-5 at high voltages.




Probably it was the motherboard.;)

ValueRAM at 3.45v screenshot incoming...

:eek: stable?

Grace
01-17-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by nfin1te
:eek: stable?


Well, there were 4 256mb modules on the motherboard at the time of the screenshot. One of them was, the rest were limited lower (to around 255-263 if I remember well) to be fully stable.

Soulburner
01-17-2004, 06:07 PM
So you are saying you ran 4xDIMMS at 271 2-2-2-5 with only 3.45v............................................. ....

Grace
01-17-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
So you are saying you ran 4xDIMMS at 271 2-2-2-5 with only 3.45v............................................. ....

Correction, I took a screenshot with them. Only the 1st were able to run at that speed with that voltage, the rest were too unstable to do anything else.


...only 3.45v huh?:p: Your 24/7 is 4.1v I guess.;)

Soulburner
01-17-2004, 10:34 PM
Yes, "only 3.45v"......because the other chips ive seen hit that sort of speed take 3.7-3.9v or so...

I thought the 4xDIMM thing sounded kind of odd....knew it couldn't be true.

Grace
01-18-2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
Yes, "only 3.45v"......because the other chips ive seen hit that sort of speed take 3.7-3.9v or so...

I thought the 4xDIMM thing sounded kind of odd....knew it couldn't be true.

3.7-3.9v?:confused:
MrIcee went to 310MHz with that kind of voltage!:D
And not all the chips are the same. ;)


I don't understand at all the 4x thing...yes there were 4 modules on the motherboard, it doesn't matter. If all 4 could run at that speed with that voltage, they would. They do run at that speed and that voltage at around 260MHz which is the maximum capability of the worst of them.

Soulburner
01-18-2004, 02:15 PM
I'm saying running 4xDIMMs at the same time at that speed is virtually impossible, especially with that voltage.

And yes Randi achieved that, but we are talking Intel here, which gives different results.

Grace
01-18-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
I'm saying running 4xDIMMs at the same time at that speed is virtually impossible, especially with that voltage.

And yes Randi achieved that, but we are talking Intel here, which gives different results.

Doh! :D

The number of Dimms doesn't matter at all, given that all the modules used can handle the speed that you've set them at. If all 4 could individually handle 272MHz at that voltage, they would run just fine all together.

And every system will give the exact same results. If I were using MrIcee's modules at the voltage he used, they would reach about the same speed in mine. The platform doesn't matter or affect the modules abilities, unless there is a compatibility problem or memory controller issue.

D@mn, these don't even worth a debate....

Soulburner
01-19-2004, 12:59 AM
That's not true....I have seen first hand someone take their HyperX 3200 from their Intel to their A64 and they clocked 5-10fsb higher at the same volts...

And I have also seen people's overclocks drop bigtime when using all 4 sticks....even when all 4 can run higher seperately.

Grace
01-19-2004, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
That's not true....I have seen first hand someone take their HyperX 3200 from their Intel to their A64 and they clocked 5-10fsb higher at the same volts...

And I have also seen people's overclocks drop bigtime when using all 4 sticks....even when all 4 can run higher seperately.

Well, my experience tells me exactly the opposite.

Every module overclocks the same in every system, plus the number of the modules doesn't matter. And I don't see, I do.

...and it fits me that way, so I don't really care.:p:


Edit : Oh, there is a vast difference between real voltage and the BIOS setting, if you compare systems like that. And I'll give you (and no, I don't think so) that in any A64 system the RAM will clock 5-10MHz higher at the same settings. Matter of fact, I'll give you 20MHz! So MrIcee could run at the voltages you mentioned at least at 290MHz. Still, far further than mine. Maybe you could explain WHY the memory can overclock higher on a different system or WHY the number of the modules matter instead of just saying that they do?


As I initially mentioned, this debate doesn't even worth it.

Soulburner
01-19-2004, 02:53 AM
How is it not worth it?

Isn't the purpose of this forum to talk and learn about computers and "xtreme systems"?

Grace
01-19-2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
How is it not worth it?

Isn't the purpose of this forum to talk and learn about computers and "xtreme systems"?

Yes, indeed it is.

Debating about a subject (which is if my RAM run at that speed or not) that is not relevant to the initial posters' question and without real explanations or logic is not my idea of learning. Plus I'm not here to debate, talk or learn, I prefer posting trying to help someone, so my time is reserved for others.