Something for the ladies of the forum

[CCW]

For my English Literature AS Level Work (further education) I am studying a set of poems by Carol Ann Duffy. She is a lesbian writer, who is very feminist and you may like her work. Her latets book, The World's Wife, is the collection of poems that I am studying.

The book is about the wives of many famous people, even if they weren't married she has written poems about what their wife's would say about them. Some of the poems are just about particular women. Some are just a womens perspective of certain men. People mentioned are Mira Hindley, The Kray Sister's, Freud, Aesop and Hathaway.

The book will cost you £7.99 but its an interesting read looking at the lives of people from the womans point of view.

Heres an extract:
Mrs Aesop by Carol Ann Duffy from The World's Wife

By Christ, he could bore for purgatory. He was small,
didn't prepossess. So he tried to impress. Dead men,
Mrs Aesop, he'd say, tell no tales. Well, let me tell you now
that the bord in his hand shat on his sleeve,
never mind the two worth less in the brush. Tedious.

Going out with worst. He'd stand at our gate, look, then leap;
scour the hedgerows for a shy mouse, the fields
for a sly fox, the sky for one particular swallow
that couldn't make a summer. The jackdaw, according to
him,
envied the eagle. Donkeys would, on the whole, prefer to be
lions.

On one appauling evening stroll, we passed an old hare
snoozing in a ditch - he stopped and made a note -
and then, about a mile further on, a tortoise, somebody's pet,
creeping, slow as marriage, up the road. Slow
but certain, Mrs Aesop, wins the race. §§§§§§§.

What race? What sour grapes? What silk purse,
sow's ear, dog in a manger, what big fish? Some days
I could barely keep awake as the story droned on
towards the moral of itself. Action, Mrs A.,speaks louder
than words. And that's another thing, the sex

was diabolical. I gave him a fable one night
about a little :banana::banana::banana::banana: that wouldn't crow, a razor-sharp axe
with a heart blacker than the pot that called the kettle.
I'll cut off your tail, all right, I said, to save my face.
That shut him up. I laughed last, longest.

So Jen, Lady Germ, Geek Goddess and Grace enjoy!

[CCW]

Heres a good tip, never hand in your homework a week early, as I've now been given extra.

[Johnny Knoxvill]

lesbian books, does it come with pictures? :slobber:

[CCW]

If I told you it was full of erotic pictures of Duffy and her many girlfriends would you buy it?

It is not a lesbian book, she however is a lesbian and it only has one picture of her face on the back.

[ctgilles]

Originally posted by CCW
If I told you it was full of erotic pictures of Duffy and her many girlfriends would you buy it?
Well, duh ;)



It is not a lesbian book, she however is a lesbian and it only has one picture of her face on the back.
Dammit :(
Good face or ugly 250kgs lezzy face? :D

[CCW]

...and I was hoping I could provoke a reaction from the ladies of the forum with this thread :(

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by Johnny Knoxvill
lesbian books, does it come with pictures? :slobber:
:slapass: :slapass: :moon: :moon: :cord: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
SHEESH...Why should I expect anything other than that from you Johnny? :p:

[eddy]

please don't promote feminism. In my opinion, feminism makes an unnatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Also, more feminism means that men are needed less.

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by CCW
...and I was hoping I could provoke a reaction from the ladies of the forum with this thread :(

CCW, I prob would have replied sooner, but have not been on the threads for awhile. Ive been busy finishing up a case mod and moving in. :) I appreciate your thinking about the few women who are surrounded by guys in the Geek World of Puters. :) I enjoyed the poem of Mrs. Aesop, and as a historian/folklorist, I esp. appreciated it. Thanks. :D Its nice to see that not ALL the members on here are neandertals (I'm sure you can think of at least 1)....lmao! Of course, even Neandertal Man had an appreciation of women as being more than just sex objects to gawk at, club, and drag them off by the hair to their cave. :) ;)

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by eddy
please don't promote feminism. In my opinion, feminism makes an unnatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Also, more feminism means that men are needed less.

Eddy,

I was deeply saddened to read this post in a forum that has done everything in its power to encourage Computer and Overclocking hobbiests from all over the world, REGARDLESS of Gender, Age, Ethnicity, Religion, or Political Beliefs to come together to discuss and share their experiences, frustrations, goals, and hurdles they have overcome. This is a place where those things dont matter, and are not permitted to matter. Your statement shows that you did not read CCW's original post, let alone understood it fully, but that you assumed something that was not there. You rushed to make your reply, which comes off not only as simply a desire to increase your post count, but also as a flame to CCW and the femal members of this wonderful forum. It is an offront to what the moderators and members of XtremeSystems have built here. A virtual slap in the face. Your comments were uncalled for and unnecessary. You have shown yourself for the level of evolution and education you have achieved.

Marilyn

[jamaljaco]

Originally posted by eddy
please don't promote feminism. In my opinion, feminism makes an unnatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Also, more feminism means that men are needed less. hey eddy, wow! how can I say it? well, Your really messed up. I'm sure glad the majority of the world I live in don't share your view.And yes eddy I'm a man. All grown up and secure in my manhood . I don't feel a need to be "needed" by any woman. In fact I prefer not to be needed. And honestly who really care what a woman thinks she looks like. I personally prefer the woman in my life to be inteligent over all else. Over time as you grow up you may realize this or you may just grow old and lonely.
Good luck.

[TheDude]

:owned: :up: :cord:
Eddy your village....line one.:D

[jamaljaco]

Originally posted by TheDude
:owned: :up: :cord:
Eddy your village....line one.:D DUDE ! you always manage to pop in at just the right moment with the good ones. LMAO..

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by TheDude
:owned: :up: :cord:
Eddy your village....line one.:D

:lol: :rotf: DUDE...:ROTF: ya gotta let me know when your in the Pac NW, so I can buy you a beer! LOL,,,Would really love to hang w/ ya sometime! :toast: :D hehehehe,,,,village,,,line 1,,,,lol,,,,,perfect,,,,

[TheDude]

LOL....you guys are on...first one's on me.:D

[CCW]

Originally posted by eddy
please don't promote feminism. In my opinion, feminism makes an unnatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Also, more feminism means that men are needed less.

As I firm believer that everyone is equal and therefore my belief is in left-wing politics, I think that your still stuck in the stone-age. Your a very opinionated person that can't express an opinion in a way so that it won't offend.


Originally posted by Geek Goddess
CCW, I prob would have replied sooner, but have not been on the threads for awhile. Ive been busy finishing up a case mod and moving in. I appreciate your thinking about the few women who are surrounded by guys in the Geek World of Puters. I enjoyed the poem of Mrs. Aesop, and as a historian/folklorist, I esp. appreciated it. Thanks. Its nice to see that not ALL the members on here are neandertals (I'm sure you can think of at least 1)....lmao! Of course, even Neandertal Man had an appreciation of women as being more than just sex objects to gawk at, club, and drag them off by the hair to their cave.

No problem, I knew you would see the thread eventually.

TheDude, you truly do know when and exactly where to post a good joke! I'd buy you a beer but it wouldn't be chilled by the time it got there :(

Geel Goddess, I must admit its very good to have women like yourself on here! It adds another colour to the forums palette.

Craig

[Grace]

To be honest, I don't like it at all....
Both the book and the development of this thread that is.

Then again those kinds of books (poetry and the like) never appealed to me. Neither phallocrats like eddy there.



please don't promote feminism. In my opinion, feminism makes an unnatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Also, more feminism means that men are needed less.

In my opinion, your opinion needs a little reconsideration.
...actually full reconstruction I'd say.
......and yes, more feminism may mean that men are needed less. Why should we NEED you? Make us WANT you.

[TheDude]

Why should we NEED you? Make us WANT you.

Man....that's a gem! I have never heard it expressed better! Seldom have so few words, said so much.

:toast:

[Holst]

I dont particually like the style CCW but the idea is sound..

Ive allways been a fan of esop, and this did make me smile..

Just to add some clarification to the discution for the less informed among us.



FEMINISM

Definition:
[n] the movement aimed at equal rights for women
[n] a doctrine that advocates equal rights for women


If your going to cryticise something please make sure you have some basic understanding first, or you risk looking like a fool spouting another mans mis-information...

[Hardass]

eddy.

You have the right to your opinion, but not when it breaks forum policy. You should have read them before you posted. This one has your name all over it.


7. This forum has a policy of tolerance and inclusion. Prejudicial language and behavior is absolutely forbidden and may result in loss of posting privileges. Racial, Sexist or religious slights of any kind are absolutely not tolerated, nor are slights against other groups based on sexual orientation, age, class, IQ, ethnicity or similar features.

To the ladies here, you have my apology.

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by TheDude
LOL....you guys are on...first one's on me.:D

DUDE, :thumbsup: You got it! :) :toast:

[Johnny Knoxvill]

Originally posted by sjohnson
Let's get it straight - Ms. Clinton is no feminist, though she may appeal to some.


actually she's regarded by most politicians to be a feminist...

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by Hardass
eddy.

You have the right to your opinion, but not when it breaks forum policy. You should have read them before you posted. This one has your name all over it.


7. This forum has a policy of tolerance and inclusion. Prejudicial language and behavior is absolutely forbidden and may result in loss of posting privileges. Racial, Sexist or religious slights of any kind are absolutely not tolerated, nor are slights against other groups based on sexual orientation, age, class, IQ, ethnicity or similar features.

To the ladies here, you have my apology.

Thanks Hardass, its much appreciated. I must say that, with very few exceptions, this forum is filled with true Gentlemen who have made my personal experiences here most enjoyable. In the fairly brief time that I have been a member here and posting, XtremeSystems has actually begun to feel like a cyber home away from home for me, and has encouraged me tremendously to new levels of Geekdom. I have learned so much already from this place and its members, and although this might be a tad off topic here,,I'd like to extend my gratitude and thank all y'all for that. :)

[Hardass]

Originally posted by GeekGoddess
Thanks Hardass, its much appreciated. I must say that, with very few exceptions, this forum is filled with true Gentlemen who have made my personal experiences here most enjoyable. In the fairly brief time that I have been a member here and posting, XtremeSystems has actually begun to feel like a cyber home away from home for me, and has encouraged me tremendously to new levels of Geekdom. I have learned so much already from this place and its members, and although this might be a tad off topic here,,I'd like to extend my gratitude and thank all y'all for that. :)

Compliments on our home away from home are always welcome. The staff here thanks you.:)

[Grace]

Originally posted by Hardass

To the ladies here, you have my apology.

No apology needed, it was not your fault by any means.


Let's get it straight - Ms. Clinton is no feminist, though she may appeal to some.

She's a politician, a powerful politician. If feminism aids her in her career goals then she'll support it. If not, well, she *is* capable of doing what is necessary to get from here to there (the White House) with or without feminists.



actually she's regarded by most politicians to be a feminist...



Most political analysts, or most politicians? Hah - she is for whatever aids her in her goals.

A true feminist has the goal of equality of all humans and in particular, women.

Ms. Clinton has the goal of political power. She wants the ultimate preferential distinction of being the President. What that has to do with feminism is dubious.

WE DON'T CARE!!!:off: :off: :off: :explode: :explode:

I hate politics more than most things.

[eddy]

I apologize to the people who I offended.


You have shown yourself for the level of evolution and education you have achieved. I never gave an explanation for my opinion, so you do not know what I know about the subject. If I did, maybe you might agree with me on some things... You're questioning my intelligence (rule#7) and that offends me.
......and yes, more feminism may mean that men are needed less. Why should we NEED you? Make us WANT you. you're 100% correct on that.


This is a place where those things dont matter, and are not permitted to matter. why is this post for the ladies of the forum?

[sjohnson]

Grace, only off-topic in the sense that JK's original post, to which I replied in rebuttal, has been deleted. And only off-topic in the sense that this thread has never been on-topic.

My last word here, I'll delete my posts since they offend you so.

[Grace]

Originally posted by eddy

I never gave an explanation for my opinion, so you do not know what I know about the subject. If I did, maybe you might agree with me on some things... You're questioning my intelligence (rule#7) and that offends me.

you're 100% correct on that.

why is this post for the ladies of the forum?

I'll answer that.

1. He doesn't question your intellect. When you show it yourself and he said just that, he doesn't have to!

2. I know I'm correct on that, however it is the exact opposite of what you said. Hence either you didn't understand what you said (which gets us back to number 1) or you are just trying to 'cover your tracks'.

3. Drawing attention of the females for a topic that might concern them versus insulting them because they are females are 2 entirely different things. Which if you can't understand why or how, it gets us back to number 1 again.


If you want a debate or even a fight over something, make it worth it at least....



Grace, only off-topic in the sense that JK's original post, to which I replied in rebuttal, has been deleted. And only off-topic in the sense that this thread has never been on-topic.

My last word here, I'll delete my posts since they offend you so.

They don't offend me, but 99% of the political conversations end to fights, small or large. Fights do offend me. JK was just trying to use sarcastic humor to brake the ice, I don't believe he stated his political belief through it. You don't have to take everything so serious, you know that JK responds through sarcasm usually.

....else you should spend more time here!:p:

[GeekGoddess]

Hey, if they can have a "Scantily clad hot women" thread, cant we have a "Scantily clad hot men thread"? Or would that be to feminist of me to ask?:D ;) LOL

[eddy]

"I know I'm correct on that, however it is the exact opposite of what you said" - no it's not the exact opposite.
"more feminism may mean that men are needed less" <- what you said
"Also, more feminism means that men are needed less." <- what i said.

"You have shown yourself for the level of evolution and education you have achieved" - that is what GeekGoddess said. To me, she is saying that I know absolutely nothing about the subject. She's questioning my intelligence, even though I NEVER gave any explanation to back up my opinion. That's being prejudice.


Drawing attention of the females for a topic that might concern them versus insulting them because they are females are 2 entirely different things. - How would you or anyone else feel IF a male was offended/insulted by a thread started "for the men of the forum" for the sole purpose of posting pictures of half naked women.

[GeekGoddess]

I'll take this one Grace ;):



Originally posted by eddy
"I know I'm correct on that, however it is the exact opposite of what you said" - no it's not the exact opposite.
"more feminism may mean that men are needed less" <- what you said
"Also, more feminism means that men are needed less." <- what i said.

Being "needed" and being "wanted" are two different things. In this day and age, Many people, of both genders, do not "need" the other for survival, unlike in the past when it was a necessity to pair up with another person. Each gender brought their own skills and viewpoints into the equation which would increase the chances of a longer, better life. Therefore, due to the technological advances of mankind, we no longer "need" to pair up in order to simply survive. We "Want" to pair up because we are still basically social animals and enjoy each others company.


"You have shown yourself for the level of evolution and education you have achieved" - that is what GeekGoddess said. To me, she is saying that I know absolutely nothing about the subject. She's questioning my intelligence, even though I NEVER gave any explanation to back up my opinion. That's being prejudice. [/B]

Where in that statement do I say the word "Intelligence"? I used the words "evolution and education". I know tons of people who have a low education, but a super high intelligence, and vice versa. There are also many many areas in which a person can "evolve" and be "educated" in which a person's IQ has nothing to do with. Your statement/opinion on the subject of feminism being nothing more than an ugly woman thinking that shes as attractive as a truly attractive woman..well, that just shows your level of education on the subject of feminism, as well as your evolution in your thinking towards women in general.
Nowhere did I question your intelligence. Your statement was prejudicial to women and feminsim in general, therefore violates rule #7. My statement was not, and does not. You still have yet to offer an explanation of your opinion, which, as you expressed it, has no place on this thread, let alone this forum. To be honest, I really dont want to hear an explanation of your opinion, its your right to believe what you want. Your statement was inflammitory and carelessly worded. Face it Eddy, you stepped on it. Stop trying to turn it around and make me the bad guy here (or should I say "evil feminist :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:?;)) and you the victim. It just isnt gonna fly. You might want to call a Podiatrist and ask him to remove the foot which you have firmly stuck in your mouth in regards to this subject.



[ - How would you or anyone else feel IF a male was offended/insulted by a thread started "for the men of the forum" for the sole purpose of posting pictures of half naked women. [/B]

Ummm,,,there already is one,,,,,JohnnyKnoxville started his "Scantily Clad Women" thread last week, several days before CCW started this one. If someone had gone in there and made a generalized statement similar to yours, Im sure the response would have been the same. BTW,,,the half'naked ladies thread doesnt offend me,,,,guys will be guys after all. LOL I've even popped in there and taken a look. :D Eddy, I can hear the wheels turning in your marvelous brain already,,,so, no, Im not a lesbian, just an open-minded female. Sorry to disappoint you on that possible justification you might need to heal your wounded pride.

[TheDude]

Really Eddy, you did indeed "step on it". Just say you're sorry and carry on. We've all said something stupid in here at one time or another. But really....give it up....the way you're headed, I hope you have an English to Chinese dictionary in your pocket! ;)

[CCW]

Originally posted by Hardass
To the ladies here, you have my apology.

Then blame here is upon me. I started this thread knowing that it would be controversial to some and knowing that many people would make fun (Johnny knoxville.) So Im sorry.


Originally posted by eddy
why is this post for the ladies of the forum?

I wanted to reach out to a group of people that are a minority on this forum. I wanted to add something that they could relate to as the threads here are predominantly orientated towards the male gender. I thoight they might like the idea of this book. It looks at people from the perspective of women, you might say I am promoting the book, and rightly so. I have enjoyed reading the poems in it, because I like to look at things from different persectives. if you can see something from another point of view, that is unbiased, you understand it better.

eddy, I think that by you asking "why is this post for the ladies of the forum" you have realised that you are wrong, but you don't want to be totally wrong so you are going off the point to try and make a problem out of something else.

Stop looking for a scape-goat!


Originally posted by Holst
I dont particually like the style CCW but the idea is sound..

Ive allways been a fan of esop, and this did make me smile..

As a fan of Aesop, can you spot all the references to his fables? I think the way she has wrote this poem is clever.

Craig

[eddy]

TheDude, I did already. No one noticed.

CCW, no it's my fault and no I didn't realize that I was wrong. Without citing examples, I can back up my first reply in one sentence...Feminism should not be promoted because it makes women look like they can't succeed on their own.
Want an example? Martha Burke trying to get a female forced into playing at a male-only PRIVATE golf course.

more feminism means that men are needed less. - And wanted less too...Martha Burke wants most men castrated because they aren't good enough for women. I'm sure if you asked her, she'd be all for a woman going to a sperm bank and getting pregnant unnaturally. In other words, keep a few men and get rid of the rest. Good idea?

feminism makes an unatractive woman think she looks like any other good looking woman. Go shopping with a woman. Actually, go shopping with a woman who is very thin. Or even ask her about the clothes she buys and if they fit. She'll tell you that most of the extra small clothes are too big for her. Why? Because the die-hard feminists got the sizes changed. So maybe an extra large size shirt was changed to a medium sized shirt. Same dimensions, just something different on the tag that makes women think they aren't as big as they really are, and to make them think they are good looking. **women's clothes size is only an example and is not meant to hurt anyone's feeling**

[Grace]

Originally posted by Grace

If you want a debate or even a fight over something, make it worth it at least....


I love quoting myself over and over and over....


Eddy....make it worth it next time. Worrying about the clothes sizes is not an intellectual topic and mind you, I don't have any real problem with my clothes. And I'm sure that you know more of the topic than I do.


...keeping a few (not) men and get rid of the rest. Yes, it's a nice idea! You are in the 'good riddance' list, that's why you worry.:p:


Now, you are quoting a single person to express the whole theory of feminism. Above all, all those that you said have nothing to do with your initial responce to the first person that you quoted. Which all of the above paragraphs STILL gets us back to No.1 that I mentioned in my previous reply.

[Grace]

Originally posted by CCW
Then blame here is upon me. I started this thread knowing that it would be controversial to some and knowing that many people would make fun (Johnny knoxville.) So Im sorry.


No apology needed, it was not your fault by any means. - The replay.

(sorry, I was at loss of words) :p:

[TheDude]

Grace....it's most often the case that a gentleman will feel responsibile for apologizing for less mannered men....simply because less mannered men are not capable of it even when they "try". Hardass and CCW are sincere and somehow feel responsible even though they are not of course.
At least you probably do not find yourself in the position of feeling like you should apologise for your entire gender very often.:rolleyes:

[CCW]

:toast:

Well I can't deny responsibility as I created the thread, however I feel the need to apologise for other people to prove we are not all like those individuals.

Its been a good thread, we all know where we stand, men and woman equal with eddy somewhere in the past (j/k), LoL

[eddy]

I did explain my first post.
"please don't promote feminism." - and like I said...feminism makes it look like women have to be aided in succeeding at things. Feminists HATE when a woman succeeds on her own. Do you find anything wrong with that?

Actually, what do you think feminism is anyway?


Now, you are quoting a single person to express the whole theory of feminism. - Martha Burk is the chair-woman of the National Organization Of Women (http://www.now.org). That is the largest feminist group in the country, or even the world.

read this: http://www.family.org/fofmag/pp/a0024024.cfm

[eddy]

once again....

Originally posted by eddy
I apologize to the people who I offended.

[Grace]

Originally posted by TheDude
Grace....it's most often the case that a gentleman will feel responsibile for apologizing for less mannered men....


At least you probably do not find yourself in the position of feeling like you should apologise for your entire gender very often.:rolleyes:

I know.
I merely said that it is not needed. It's not their fault by any means.

...and don't bet on that. It may happen every single day. I never said that females are perfect. Actually we have way more flaws than I can tolerate sometimes. Me included, I'm just trying to limit them.


Well I can't deny responsibility as I created the thread, however I feel the need to apologise for other people to prove we are not all like those individuals.

Its been a good thread, we all know where we stand, men and woman equal with eddy somewhere in the past (j/k), LoL

You can't deny responsibility of creating the thread, I agree. That doesn't mean that you have to take responsibility of each $%^$%& post in it. You can't control other people's minds you know. And of course as you said you expected sarcastic and similar answers, like some that came from JK, however sarcasm and direct insult walk on different paths. I can figure out sarcasm or teases most of the time as I can figure when someone says something with reality in mind.



Feminists HATE when a woman succeeds on her own. Do you find anything wrong with that?

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


Let us women decide what feminism is, we understand it better.:D
PS. I really think that the magazine you quoted is kind of...BS?

[TheDude]

Originally posted by eddy
once again....

Well....even though I'm a guy....or maybe more so because of it, I was offended and I accept your apology.....both of them actually.
:D
:toast:
Now let's go overclock something.;)

[eddy]

Let us women decide what feminism is There are male feminists. Feminism has nothing to do with a person's sex.

[zakelwe]

Name 10 famous scientists
Name 10 famous female scientists
Name 10 famous black scientists
Name 10 famous black female scientists.


In total what was score out of 40 and did you find it got more difficult towards the end?

Regards

Andy

[CCW]

I dont understand the difference between a scientist and a black scientist?

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by CCW
I dont understand the difference between a scientist and a black scientist?

This is not an understanding game, this is a naming game CCW

What's your score ?

Regards

Andy

[eddy]

a scientist is a scientist no matter what race or sex they are.

[CCW]

Originally posted by eddy
a scientist is a scientist no matter what race or sex they are

Precisely the point I was creating, which is why I am not participating in this game.

[zakelwe]

You both score nothing as you sidestepped.

Feel uncomfortable ?

Me too :)

that is what I designed it for.

Regards

Andy

[Holst]

Originally posted by GeekGoddess
Hey, if they can have a "Scantily clad hot women" thread, cant we have a "Scantily clad hot men thread"? Or would that be to feminist of me to ask?:D ;) LOL

I dont think a real feminist needs to ask permission.


Grace....it's most often the case that a gentleman will feel responsibile for apologizing for less mannered men

I am usually appologising in proxy for my own sins...
I think we have all been "not good enough" at some point...

[Grace]

Originally posted by TheDude

Now let's go overclock something.;)


I'm working on it (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7447662).:D

[zakelwe]

unfortunatwelt I ahve gone from the Mekong with the head the size of a small; planet to George Bush all within the space of 1 pint of beer

my chair seems to be running away

[CCW]

Either your a lightweight or you drink beer way to fast. LoL

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by CCW
Either your a lightweight or you drink beer way to fast. LoL

Both LOL :)

Is it me CCW or is global warming having an adverse impact on the number of cold days available to overclockers in the south of England ?

I was out in the garden in my t shirt in the sun this afternoon :eek:

Regards
Andy

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Grace
I'm working on it (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7447662).:D

Nice P4 system on clock and FSB.

Will you get the 3Dbug ?

Regards

Andy

[Grace]

Originally posted by zakelwe
Nice P4 system on clock and FSB.

Will you get the 3Dbug ?

Regards

Andy

After I'll get my watercooling working again, I'll work on a bench (perhaps).

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by Holst
I dont think a real feminist needs to ask permission.


Your right Holst,,,I was just being a smart@$$...LOL:D

[CCW]

Originally posted by zakelwe
Both LOL :)

Is it me CCW or is global warming having an adverse impact on the number of cold days available to overclockers in the south of England ?

I was out in the garden in my t shirt in the sun this afternoon :eek:

Regards
Andy

Want to know whats going to happen to the part of the UK we live in due to global warming? It'll be submerged under water i nthe end. Our climate will become warmer and we will be able to have vineyards in the UK to make our own wine. basically, England will have the same climate that France has and we will slowly move away from the temperate maritime climate we have now.

Get ready to pull your trousers up and be stepping in buckets full of grapes all day.

ive had a hell of a lot of colder days though. the su nis out now but everything is iced over and all the roads were gritted friday night. The ydont grit the roads unless te yare expecting some really cold nights, they dont want to waste money.

Anyway, Im still waiting for them to hand Ian Huntley, the bed clothes that harold Shipman hung himself with. As its our tax thats paying to keep him alive.

Craig

[Vlad Draculea]

no girls remaining here i fear.
this part must remain intact:might be i should corect the post and say we all deserve to die in the same grade

[GeekGoddess]

:toast: Agree w/ you 1000% Vlad!:D

And might I add, that for a bloodthirsty ruler(western civ percieved), your particularly an openminded and peaceful person!;)

[Vlad Draculea]

i am glad you know the truth about vlad, i learnt it thank to romanian gf i had some time ago he inded was a psycho, but was a hero for his people, and a lot of thanks for the praise :)

i kinda like this post no need to edit it, it talks abot vlad whom i admire, and it has made me remember my ex gf .

[GeekGoddess]

No prob.....:)

[bowman1964]

i dont understand how i missed this wonderful conversation....

i would love to see the forum gain female members...i think in time if we continue to treat everyone with respect our entire forum will improve and increase.

glad to see GeekGoddess and Grace.......sorry i missed the good part of the conversation in the early going...

TheDude like always...quick with the witt.:D

one thing i learned in 15 years of marrage, was we are all differant and no one is less important than the other.

too bad i i found out later my ex didnt think the same way...

CCW
i am not a big poem guy..but it was nice.maybe i need to expand myself with poems......i think i will save that for another life.i am not too good at that:D

[TheDude]

Your poetry is measured in centigrade brother and you're damn good at it. :D
:toast:

[GeekGoddess]

Originally posted by bowman1964
i dont understand how i missed this wonderful conversation....

i would love to see the forum gain female members...i think in time if we continue to treat everyone with respect our entire forum will improve and increase.

glad to see GeekGoddess and Grace.......sorry i missed the good part of the conversation in the early going...

TheDude like always...quick with the witt.:D

one thing i learned in 15 years of marrage, was we are all differant and no one is less important than the other.

too bad i i found out later my ex didnt think the same way...

CCW
i am not a big poem guy..but it was nice.maybe i need to expand myself with poems......i think i will save that for another life.i am not too good at that:D

Thanks Bowman, Its nice to see you post in an area I dont see you much in. It gives those of us who arent heavy into the phase change arena (...yet ;)) a chance to visit w/ ya a tad bit. BTW, hows the new evap coming? Its awesome! Congrats again on it! :D
I too would like to see more females on the forum. One thing I've noticed through cruisin' through others boards well. is that there arent that many of us around. When it comes to the more technical and tweaking side of puters, sad to say, its still very much an "old boys' club", soto speak, & I find it annoying when I go into a shop and have the guys in there talk down to me like Im an puter idiot. I personally have a real blast getting in there and doing it, its a challenge to do things I havnt done yet. :)
It was a wonderful thing when Jamal introduced me to XtremeSystems, a place where I could go and learn and be totally accepted. This place has encouraged me to do things I never would have done before or even thought I could. I've stated this before in another thread, but I'll say it again here. Very much thanks to all y'all, mods and members alike, for everything! XtremeSystems feels like a home for me now, and you guys like family. Even though I dont post in a lot of the threads, it doesnt mean I'm not in there reading! ;) :)

[bowman1964]

yea i try to get around.:D

the main thing i think women have problems with coming into a large forum like this is ......well to be honest..most of the guys in here dont have girlfriends of their own..just computer geeks...i mean i hate to just come out and say that...but i think thats about it...
so when they think they see a woman on the forum ...and she is ansering or posting....they jump all over her ...and that makes alot of women get tried of posting....because it isnt worth the effort to listen to some guy trying to hit on her,or just agravate her ....

i know ther are lots of good guys in here...that are not geeks...
a few of us are older...and have families..and i personally think it is nice to have a womans opinion on stuff...another view is always a nice thing.

so you girls will always have my support.and if needed just ask me for help...i was overclocking long before i was freon cooling stuff. and i can aways be reached by pm if needed...to handle any problems that may arise.

[GeekGoddess]

Well, I really havent had much of a problem w/ guys hitting on me in here (mostly happens when I'm in a chat room, which is rarely), and havent had many guys trying to aggravate me either. :) I really dont think Eddy realized how bad he stepped on it earlier,,perhaps he thought he'd have a bit more support than he did,,,lol. One of the reasons that I have felt more comfortable on this forum is because several of the members aren't kids, have families and life experience. It's a good peer group. I really like the mentoring attitudes that go on here,,,the more experienced taking the less experienced under their wing (soto speak) and guiding them along and helping them out, regardless of age. Too bad this doesnt extend into more areas of our society anymore. Hopefully, what some of the youngers members do take away from here includes not only technical geek knowledge, but also tolerance and a more open-minded attitude towards others in general.

I know,,,wordy wordy wordy,,,,and sentimental.....but whatta ya expect....after all,,,,I AM a girl!!! ;);) LMAO

[Vlad Draculea]

i and i think some more people here woul think that being a spammer isnt, and being a good member is spamming, so i must be doing prety good.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Vlad Draculea
i and i think some more people here woul think that being a kid or a geek isnt a bad think, or not having wife/gf, i mean you might be a 15 years old geek without gf and be mature enough to talk to women with some respect, i think that in fact the main problem because there are few girls that are tech inclined isnt us (male geeks) or her fault, it is a problem of education. also must say that in most "geek" places i have seem people are glad to have any woman, very few times i have seem people trying to aggravate woman, the other might be a bit more true.
and dito to everything geekgoddess said about this place, it feels like a virtual home.

Well very true...i know alot of great people from this forum..and some are geeks.....which sometimes is a great thing....

to be honest most people outside of the computer fourms consider ALL OF US GEEKS...lol,,:toast:

but if we treat each other with respect..it will make no differance male or female or anything else...respect between people means alot...if you respect everyone elses opinions you wont have many people upset with you anyways...;)

[CCW]

Originally posted by bowman1964

CCW
i am not a big poem guy..but it was nice.maybe i need to expand myself with poems......i think i will save that for another life.i am not too good at that:D

This has been a good thread in my opinion, I'm writing an article now for college entitled "Gender in Language and Society" that I may post on here as well. I've also wrote my own Duffy style poem, from the point of view of Aristotles wife about Aristotle.


Originally posted by Vlad Draculea


i mean you might be a 15 years old geek without gf and be mature enough to talk to women with some respect, i think that in fact the main problem because there are few girls that are tech inclined isnt us (male geeks) or her fault, it is a problem of education.

LoL, I happen to be a 16 year old computer geek, who doesn't have a girlfriend

[Vlad Draculea]

hey people do not quote me, you ruin my evil plans, MUAHHHHHHH! I AM MORE EVIL THAN FUGGER.

[CCW]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27160

My views on the way women are talked to and about in the modern world.

[CCW]

Oscar Wilde’s Wife:
He is happy with me
Because he doesn’t love me
My often-convincing arguments
Are to be avoided vulgarly

But he too old to
know everything now
Only the young and arrogant
can perceive the world

but he is not poor
my love lingers on him
I will be his last
Romance, and I, his first love

Why strip the outside?
When the inside is of importance
It is what he is
And he can only harm himself

The love he denies
Me, cannot hurt
He is only happy
Content

Aristotles Wife:
He would hide behind his calculative mind
pity the fool in other men
with his wisdom, divine
All men are mortal, he is a man, therefore he is mortal

animals of the world have desires
humans can control desire with reason
what of the animals in humans?
not for the illiberal women he would say

his boorish attitude towards
the brains in women, irrational
for someone concered with logistics
he should at least know, we are the

same. His mind of Deficiency? Mean? Excess?
Cowardice? Courage? Rashness?
Illiberility? Liberality? Prodigality?
more than needed from Plato

excess or deficiency of gymnastic exercise is fatal to strength
to much, to little - virtuous mean shines through
but only art can express a true idea
the realisation of an external form

and so he continues
rationality defeating the point of an argument
logic overclouding judgement
intellectual capacity is his only mistress

Confucius Wife:
He cannot see my beauty
It is a mistake
He has made to a crime
Ashamed, swallowed by his self-pity

He has left me
In the darkness
No moon, and no stars
Truly ignorant

I look to our future
But I have no past to relate to
Our relation ship draws on
Slowly
Yet to
stop


The above are my own work in based on Duffy's style of writing, they are from the womans point of view of the man in question.

What do you think?

Craig

[TheDude]

The above are my own work in based on Duffy's style of writing, they are from the womans point of view of the man in question.

Craig,

I am astonished! I had no idea that you were such a serious student of literature. Let me ask a dumb question...Are you talking about Carol Ann Duffy? Please excuse my ignorance...thanks.
BTW: Great job! :toast:

[GeekGoddess]

AWESOME....those were very well done! congrats!:toast:

[CCW]

Originally posted by TheDude
Craig,

I am astonished! I had no idea that you were such a serious student of literature. Let me ask a dumb question...Are you talking about Carol Ann Duffy? Please excuse my ignorance...thanks.
BTW: Great job! :toast:

Not a dumb question at all, the poems that I have done are written in the same style that Duffy writes her poems in. I done these as extra work, we haven't been asked to write our own at all in her style (yet) however I wanted to get a better feel of the style of her poems to aid me with my work. Its just the womens point of view about these men even if the man in question was never married or was homosexual (as I think you'll find one of those mentioned above is.)

Thanks for your praise, its appreciated! :
edit - lol, we posted near enough at the same time, thanks for the praise GeekGoddess

[Grace]

Why all three of those have a 'my bad husband' tone, at least to me?

It appears like they tell only the flaws. They even turn most of their strong attributes into flaws. No person can have only flaws. No woman can see only flaws (I think or *want to* hope).

...actually, no woman blames (or should anyway) her husband in public about anything.


Edit : And why I actually complain about it???It's just a poem!:banana:

[CCW]

Well from looking over the book, The Worlds Wife, a collection of poem by Carol Ann Duffy all of her work is from this book is written in that style. I was just writing poems about other famous people in her style.

The poem based on Oscar Wilde is taking a look at some of his famous quotes, and Ive adapted them to how they would fit a women.

[TheDude]

You know of course that Duffy is a lesbian? I think her girlfriend is South African and they live together.

[CCW]

Originally posted by TheDude
You know of course that Duffy is a lesbian? I think her girlfriend is South African and they live together.

Its in the first post I believe.

[TheDude]

oops sorry...didn't see that. I mentioned it because I thought it was revelant because of her poetry, not for shock value.;)
I went back and read the posts that I missed, should have done that before I posted, it would have answered both my questions.:doh:

[Vlad Draculea]

about the poems i think grace is right why are they so negative?, although i don think husband blaming is wrong, it is absolutely right if the husband deserves to be blamed, but it is not a very good think to speak in name of death/non existent wifes of dead people (there is no way to know how they would think/feel) plus it is worse if the things said are negative, i mean i wouldnt like it if in a future someone writes a poem like that about my theoretical wife.

[CCW]

Originally posted by Vlad Draculea
about the poems i think grace is right why are they so negative?, although i don think husband blaming is wrong, it is absolutely right if the husband deserves to be blamed, but it is not a very good think to speak in name of death/non existent wifes of dead people (there is no way to know how they would think/feel) plus it is worse if the things said are negative, i mean i wouldnt like it if in a future someone writes a poem like that about my theoretical wife.

Already answered it Sir


Originally posted by CCW
Well from looking over the book, The Worlds Wife, a collection of poem by Carol Ann Duffy all of her work is from this book is written in that style. I was just writing poems about other famous people in her style.

The poem based on Oscar Wilde is taking a look at some of his famous quotes, and Ive adapted them to how they would fit a women.

[TheDude]

i wouldnt like it if in a future someone writes a poem like that about my theoretical wife.


:brick:

[CCW]

Its not about your theoretical wife vlad Draculea, its from the perspective of the theoretical wife

[Grace]

Originally posted by Vlad Draculea
i mean i wouldnt like it if in a future someone writes a poem like that about my theoretical wife.

Well...


i am inmortal until someone finds evidence i am not


...YOU can ALWAYS sue them.:D