View Full Version : With The Prescotts So Close-Are you Excited?
Kunaak
01-11-2004, 12:16 PM
Aside from all the rumours of it's performance-the trash talk about it's heat output, and various other "rumours", since nothings been confirmed with a real live review yet from anyone anywhere-except the occassional ES sample from hong kong or something...
Are you interested to try a prescott still?
skate2snow
01-11-2004, 12:26 PM
Me exited that they come!!!!!!!!!! oh ya man!! I will have a better CPU then the shlt i have now!!!!!!
And they look great. And the prices are exelente. And the rumours are saying it will OC more then the NW. Im so exited
DjTonic
01-11-2004, 01:38 PM
Hm i can't wait anymore. :P
Soulburner
01-11-2004, 03:02 PM
I want one in its cozy 775 socket....
Craig
01-11-2004, 04:41 PM
Well, I'm interested enough to wait and see what they do before buying my new rig.
If they are hot, or O/C dogs, I'll go with a NW P4 3.2 or a AMD 64.
If they are good O/Cing chips without more heat than water can handle well, then I may buy one.
But if I don't buy soon, I may as well wait for the 775, 939 & PCI-express. :(
Iridium192_217
01-11-2004, 07:08 PM
luke warm
Kanavit
01-11-2004, 10:59 PM
I'm getting an Asus P4C800-e just for prescott.:toast: that's how excited i am! SSE3 , and advanced hyperthreading, improved fpu and 1mb L2 cache. can't wait
Minnyboy
01-11-2004, 11:09 PM
Just waiting to see what Intel's reply to AMD shapes up.
Maxvla
01-12-2004, 12:08 AM
i don't think they will have anything on the A64 chips until they start ramping up the mhz.
Soulburner
01-12-2004, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Maxvla
i don't think they will have anything on the A64 chips until they start ramping up the mhz.
Of course......and thats what this chip is all about.
skate2snow
01-12-2004, 04:56 AM
these chips are all the same, thats why the 2.4C OC better, they just rate a CPU at a speed. So a 3.2 Prescott can at least do 3.8. But you can be very bad lucky and pick one that will only do 3.4. But im so EXITED, i CANT wait
Maxvla
01-12-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
Of course......and thats what this chip is all about.
which is why i'm not hyped on them because they won't be ramping speed enough for another 6+ months.
Kanavit
01-12-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Maxvla
which is why i'm not hyped on them because they won't be ramping speed enough for another 6+ months.
i wouldn't be so sure, Intel Prescott will be using 90nm process on 300mm wafer fab and will be the fastest ramping processor in history.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20031122191756.html
Soulburner
01-12-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Maxvla
which is why i'm not hyped on them because they won't be ramping speed enough for another 6+ months.
What are you talking about...you can ramp it up as soon as you turn on your computer for the first time :stick:.
skate2snow
01-12-2004, 03:41 PM
the 3.2 is like 417, and after a month it will be 278. Is that make sens?!?!?! a 150$ drop in one month?!?!?!
Maxvla
01-12-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
What are you talking about...you can ramp it up as soon as you turn on your computer for the first time :stick:.
core revisions will make the prescott faster.. just like the first northwoods were good for 2.5-2.6 then the C1 and D1 steppings were good for 3.4-3.5 easy.
the first set of prescotts won't be that great. but the first revision will probably be good overclockers.
hollywood
01-12-2004, 07:52 PM
I have a P4C800-E Rev 1.02 that I bought in September....Can I use Prescott when it debuts???
skate2snow
01-13-2004, 10:41 AM
Yes, all mobo that have 1.525Vc support non-officially the Prescott. The only official Prescott support ive seen is a MSI 865PE-P
DjTonic
01-13-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Hollywood
I have a P4C800-E Rev 1.02 that I bought in September....Can I use Prescott when it debuts???
Yes it's allready build for prescotts.
charlie
01-15-2004, 09:18 AM
new toys are always good...
skate2snow
01-15-2004, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by charlie
new toys are always good... Thats exactly what im trying to say from DDR-2 and Prescott, but most of people are saying it will be more crap then whatever else
Soulburner
01-15-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by skate2snow
Yes, all mobo that have 1.525Vc support non-officially the Prescott. The only official Prescott support ive seen is a MSI 865PE-P
All boards support 1.525 vcore....that is the default voltage of the CPU...
That has nothing to do with "Prescott Compatibility"...
skate2snow
01-15-2004, 02:07 PM
I know 1.525 is what all P4 MOBO have, but thats what ive heard, and ive heard in another magazine that only 865PE and 875P but not 848P support Prescott
Soulburner
01-15-2004, 02:53 PM
No, what is going to determine if you can run a S478 Prescott is if your board can power it or not.
Most of the "overclocking" boards can, as companies such as ASUS and Abit provide overclocking headroom on their boards for the enthusiasts. This extra power is whats going to let the Prescotts run.
Smaller companies that don't make overclockers boards...I wouldn't count on it.
skate2snow
01-15-2004, 02:59 PM
I think my MSI can do it;). You didnt see how much capacitor it have?!?!?!:lol:
And supposed that MSI is very very very good for OC, the only problem is the BIOS is the poorest ever.
Xymurgy
01-15-2004, 05:41 PM
I'm very excited. I bought an AI7 to replace my IC7. I'm going to be springing on the Prescott when it comes out, since I already have most of the socket 478 hardware (hopefully).
althes
01-15-2004, 07:43 PM
I think i will wait and see how they perform.:D
skate2snow
01-15-2004, 07:49 PM
I think everyone should buy it after the 15, theyre dropping by even more!!!!!!!!!!
Master_G
01-16-2004, 06:24 AM
I am interested in the Prescott still, owing to the huge amount of press and theories floating around about power issues, compatability with current NW boards, but i wuldnt say im excited about it.
However i wuld say that i tend not to get excited about new hardware coming out anymore, ive got too tired of gettin really excited about things coming out, only for them to turn out not to live up to their expectations.
Nowadays I only get excited when the product is out, and the marketing hype can be separated from reality. If prescotts come out, turn out to be gd clockers or performers, then i will get excited.
G
Maelstorm
01-16-2004, 09:43 AM
I am excited. It should be interesting to see what the early Prescotts can bring.
charlie
01-16-2004, 11:03 AM
If NOTHING else... it will make a quite fine HT Desktop processor if it doesn't OC well.
C
Tedinde
01-16-2004, 01:13 PM
I sold my 3.2c waiting and beat the price drop, i got a good price for it. Plus I'll try the prescott route.
2.8 with it's 15x "DUH 14X i just edited" multi seems right for me with the Geil i have. I need over 275 fsb 1:1 to make it sing. Prescott better not let me down!!!!
But im really doubting it will be a match for A64's.
but what if these do clock through the roof!!!!
I got a 3.0c for $206 and a Celeron 2.8 "dont Laught" off intels IPD program today, just showed up. The 3.0 is a new pack date. Less than 3 weeks old.
Gonna try them out today, 4ghz celeron!!!hehe.
Soulburner
01-16-2004, 02:31 PM
2.8 = 200x14....
Tedinde
01-16-2004, 02:39 PM
I had 3.0 15x on the brain testing one right now. Your right 14x??
I was thinking a 2.8 prescott would be nice. I know my Geil does 295fsb 1:1. Using a 2.6c i had. And like i said this geil sucks unless your up above 275fsb 1:1.
290+ or more fsb 1:1 on a 2.8 would make me happy!!!!
skate2snow
01-16-2004, 02:44 PM
tedinde: I think you should go w/ a higher one, 3.0 or 3.2(if you whant to go high 3.4). Coze if they OC like its supposed you can almost do 280FSB w/ a 3.0 easyly and that ROCK!!!!!!!!!
Blind_GI
01-16-2004, 03:33 PM
Yea its going to be touch when deciding which Prescott I should get... the 2.8, 3.0, or 3.2.... Hmm my RAM can only do 225 @ 1:1 @ 2-2-2-5 stable :( That means I can only go up to 280FSB without having a problem (well I could lower my timings obviously).
280x15 = 4.2GHz cpu :D
That would be sweet if a 3.0d can do that with air lol ;)
skate2snow
01-16-2004, 03:38 PM
3.7 can be do by it w/ air(C), so the (P) will do 4.0 enough easyly.
But i dont really love to say that coze the luck is more in that, but that should be average by what ive heard
Soulburner
01-16-2004, 04:36 PM
If only it were that simple...
skate2snow
01-16-2004, 04:38 PM
what do you meen by that???
gaddster
01-16-2004, 06:58 PM
I am pretty excited about them I'd say. I've just ordered a Mach II today and typically my 2.8 M0 chip is starting to come to life on my current setup. It's now Prime stable at 255fsb but a 3.2 prescott at 270+ would be very nice :)
skate2snow
01-16-2004, 07:00 PM
Its almost possible by what ive heard
tritium
01-17-2004, 10:34 AM
Coze if they OC like its supposed you can almost do 280FSB w/ a 3.0 easyly and that ROCK!!!!!!!!!
Skate, Do you think these procs are going to run @ 4200Mhz with ease. I assume 1:1 timings.
Has anyone overclocked a Prescott yet?
;)
unrealneo
01-19-2004, 01:14 AM
I know 1.525 is what all P4 MOBO have, but thats what ive heard, and ive heard in another magazine that only 865PE and 875P but not 848P support Prescott
aren't the 848P boards built to take prescotts? I thought they were the first to have confirmed support.:confused:
btw, take your time when you post. ;)
Slickthellama
01-19-2004, 10:13 AM
Honestly I think that they wont be too much better than the P4 is. I think the real boost will come with DDR2, PCI Xpress and 755. Ill wait until then most likely.
lutjens
01-19-2004, 10:19 AM
I'm going to enjoy getting a Prescott just to O/C the hell out of it. I seriously doubt it'll pose much of a threat to my EE though (unless it ramps to 4.0 GHz on air and goes to 4.5+ on the Mach 2). I can't see this happening in the immediate future (probably toward the summer).
After their price drop (post launch), they're almost going to be disposable CPU's. You can buy 3 or 4 of the lower speed grades and keep the best overclocking one for some extreme overclocking.:D
My only real concern with the Prescott is actually its new process of 0.09 micron. With that kind of shrinkage, we're all going to have to be very gentle on the Vcore. Or else SPDS (sudden prescott death syndrome) will be a common malady of the new chip.
What would really interest me is a Prescott EE with 4 MB of L3...:D:D
Bra!nFreeZe^
01-21-2004, 12:33 PM
Actually I dont know that much about the upcoming prescotts...
But does it have 64 Bit instructions set ?
skate2snow
01-21-2004, 12:35 PM
kinda yes, the LGA only
eva2000
01-21-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by althes
I think i will wait and see how they perform.:D exactly! hotter temps ain't that appealing when room temps here are already 33-36C hehe
only got 1 prommy and several systems heh
meanwhile trying my first AMD system (always been Intel user) = A64
Soulburner
01-21-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by lutjens
My only real concern with the Prescott is actually its new process of 0.09 micron. With that kind of shrinkage, we're all going to have to be very gentle on the Vcore. Or else SPDS (sudden prescott death syndrome) will be a common malady of the new chip.
Intel is making them with a new low-k dialectric to help prevent this just like the chips on the 9600XT and the 5700U.
And about the price drop, those are price cuts for current processors, not the Prescotts. They are not going to introduce a new line of processors and then drop the price two weeks later.
unicron02
01-23-2004, 08:03 PM
Found a link to this page from the INQ http://www.computerdiy.com.tw/modules/news/article.php?storyid=108
Take the results with a grain of salt however if they are indicative of the overall picture then it looks like the prescotts will be worth it if you are looking to upgrade in the next few weeks.
Kunaak
01-23-2004, 10:40 PM
I personally am very intersted.
I don't really have any allegences to a particular brand.
I just want more hardware to play with,
more hardware is always welcome :D
skate2snow
01-24-2004, 07:11 AM
But not alway enough money;)...LOL. I whant to buy a 3.2P but im already in the red, after buy my chiller(550$CND= 350$US). Im just a little kid, that is too young for have a job.
LilGator
01-24-2004, 12:56 PM
mmmm, a SP94 + Tornado should get some nice results on the Prescott wouldn't it ? :P
skate2snow
01-24-2004, 01:02 PM
ya, but the problem its becoze its some "rumors", but rumors can be true;)
D/SCoNn3Ct3D
01-24-2004, 08:43 PM
yeah I am a under 18 aswell.
Just dropped 3.4k on my a64 fx-51 system which does not work with my mach2. Thats enough bad decisions for this year :(
Considering 3.2EE, Prescott, 3400+ ATM 24/7 gaming powerhouse w/ 100% mach2 compatibility is what i need
Soulburner
01-25-2004, 12:23 AM
How the hell did you spend 3.4K??
I could build 2 or 3 of them for that much....
skate2snow
01-25-2004, 07:04 AM
soul, Hes at the top of the top of the technologie. MACH2, FX-51, FX mobo, 9800XT. Thats already doing 2.3k$.
Soulburner
01-25-2004, 12:22 PM
He said he already had the MachII.
skate2snow
01-25-2004, 12:28 PM
Its still some money;)
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