I'm done...

[Jeff]

Looks like I killed my 9500np for sure and possibly both my K8N Pro and A64 3200+. At least one of these two is dead 'cause I can't boot a §§§§ing thing right now.

I went to take the 9500np out to put in that §§§§ing piece of §§§§ Xabre200 and when I rested it on one of the PCI slots it must have went partially into the slot. I had the power supply off but I didn't blead that tiny bit of voltage off that stays behind.

I actually smelled the faint smell of magic smoke but didn't think anything of it... 'til I went to power up.

§§§§ING §§§§!!!

I don't feel like dicking around with this §§§§ anymore. I think I need a new hobby 'cause this has just pissed the hell right out of me.

:(

All for that crap Xabre card...

:(



SO TO THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE XABRE CONTEST... MAKE SURE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR REAL SYSTEM!!!

Son-of-a-:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:!!!

:(

[Techmasta]

Thats a bad blowout. How are you going to tell if the cpu and/or mobo is dead?

[sandman]

that sucks man, I'm real sorry your fried that nice card.

But, i hope you won't drop this all together.

[Tedinde]

How many times have a said im done!!!.

Hmm first one was a bad waterleak pelted!!! last one was killing a 9800pro!!! With many in between.

Reminds me when i laid my kawasaki ZX1100e over 2 months ago, broke collorbone, and somethings still sticking out of my side!!!Man im fixing this bike then selling it.

But it was nice yesterday and today. Rode it both days, it aint going no where!!!:D


You be back to it!!!!

[Holst]

Oh FFS what a nightmare.

Hopefully its just the board and not the CPU (I doubt its the CPU TBH)

5vsb line runs through PCI... hopefully you shorted that out... might even be able to fix it if thats the case.

If there is anything I can do to help PM me.

[CCW]

Jeff, Im sure Im not the only one who believes that you are a great contributer to this community. I hope that you dont pack this hobby up completely but its your decision. If you do pack it in, be sure to drop in occasionally to let us all know how you are. It feels bad to loose hardware. Ive been there myself, never anything as expensive as your loss and I know that after it happens, you feel dreadful, I just hope that when this time passes you are willing to stick with us here at Xtremesystems. If this should be the last time you are here at Xtreme, you have my best wishes for the future.

Craig

[sjohnson]

Ya - what CCW said. I hope that putting a little distance between this mishap and you will get you back in the saddle. Would be a shame otherwise :(

[Jeff]

Thanks for the kind words guys... I think I'm just a wee bit pissed that I did this crap for the Xabre200 card... I mean... come on... a Xabre200? :eek:

F*YOU*SEE*K ME! :lol:

I'm feeling a bit better... not about the equipment but overall a bit better. ;) I'll take a look at things in the AM.

@Holst... any idea why I'd fry anything with the PS off? I know there is a little remaining voltage but enough to fry a video card and mobo(hopefully not the A64)? If you can explain to me what to measure and where... I'll take a look see. I'd love to revive the mobo and/or 9500.

[Slickthellama]

you've got the OC blues. It'll pass. If i have a blowout I just go to sleep. Things always look better the next day. Dont leave. If you need comfort check out the worst PC disaster thread. It's on this page, just gotta find it. Kind of like a burnout support group. You arent alone jeff...

[Holst]

Originally posted by Jeff
Thanks for the kind words guys... I think I'm just a wee bit pissed that I did this crap for the Xabre200 card... I mean... come on... a Xabre200? :eek:

F*YOU*SEE*K ME! :lol:

I'm feeling a bit better... not about the equipment but overall a bit better. ;) I'll take a look at things in the AM.

@Holst... any idea why I'd fry anything with the PS off? I know there is a little remaining voltage but enough to fry a video card and mobo(hopefully not the A64)? If you can explain to me what to measure and where... I'll take a look see. I'd love to revive the mobo and/or 9500.

You shouldnt be able too if the mains power was off...

I assumed you had the mains on and the PC off.... in that case 5v stanby is live... and you can short it.

If you turn off at the wall id expect resistance within the board itself would discharge the caps in the PSU........I often work on PCs with the PSU plugged in and mains turned off.
I cant understand how you could have enough power in there to make smoke if the mains was off....

Can you see what smoked? That may give us an idea as to the cause.

I dont suppose you have any easy way of testing the CPU either...Im pretty confident the CPU will be OK.

Good luck, hopefully things arnt as bad as they could be.

[Jeff]

Nope, can't see anything that let out it's magic smoke. I took everything off the board and sniffed around for 10 minutes and I'll be damned if I can smell burn.

I know I smelled a "hot" smell and maybe a bit of magic smoke last night. But it really wasn't enough to make me instantly think something was wrong.

Just checked my voltages on a PCI card and I'm getting the +3.3v, +5v, and +12v lines there.

[Iridium192_217]

When I got my 3.2c back from RMA I was so anxious to get it installed that when I opened the package it flew out & the pins got bent - I thought of saying the heck with the computers as well.

A few days later, I was back into it though.

[GeekGoddess]

Cheer up a bit Jeff, now you can post something in the "worst hardware blowout" thread...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24930st. :D ;)

[Techmasta]

Did you try a different power supply?

[Tedinde]

HMM problems myself, I woke up and My Vapo was beeping with an error code on the front!!!!

Screen blank!!!! it's apart now. I've been testing everything in another computer. Vid cards ok, MB's ok. Mem.

But whenever I put my 3.2 in the other rig. Fans start for 1 second then turns off.

Not a very good day!!!!

[Tedinde]

It's official. fired it up without the heatsink on, on a test rig, chip doesnt warm up!!!

But i dont give up. :D

Hmm maybe it's time for some AMD64 love, since i gotta spend some money!!!!

AMD643000+ and a board is about what it costs to replace a 3.2 P4.:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Got 3 P4 chips here to hold me over 2 1.8a's and a 1.6a. OLD school!!!!hehe.

I used to be able to get the 1.6a to 195fsb TEC/watercooled. With volts that would scare half of you. I always wanted the 100% OC. Maybe todays the day.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Techmasta
Did you try a different power supply?

Yep. I also am measuring all the important voltages onboard and at the PCI slots and everything(volt-wise) looks ok. :(

I also tried a PCI video card to see if it was something strange and that's a no-go. Then I tried taking the BIOS battery out overnight and that did do any good. I also tried a couple different RAM sticks and anything else extra I had.

Too bad I don't have another working A64 setup I could swap CPU/mobos with.

I'm trying to talk the wifey into getting me an early Birthday present from NewEgg. :) Maybe I can get her and a couple of my relatives to get me NewEgg girt certificates... at least then I wouldn't feel so bad. :D

@Tedinde, sorry it seems some of my luck has rubbed off. :( That's also a pretty big ticket item to have die on you.

[Slickthellama]

Originally posted by Jeff

I'm trying to talk the wifey into getting me an early Birthday present from NewEgg. :) Maybe I can get her and a couple of my relatives to get me NewEgg girt certificates... at least then I wouldn't feel so bad. :D




Good to have ya back!:toast:

[Tedinde]

Think i'll wait till the new pin comes out on the AMD64.

I just Overnighted a new 3.2c. Less work, im lazy and beat after the holidays.

At least i have me a killer keychain out of my old 3.2c, soon as if find my dam drill!!!!

[Techmasta]

Originally posted by Tedinde
Think i'll wait till the new pin comes out on the AMD64.

I just Overnighted a new 3.2c. Less work, im lazy and beat after the holidays.

At least i have me a killer keychain out of my old 3.2c, soon as if find my dam drill!!!!

Thats sad. I was waiting to see what you could do with an A64. Oh well I guess we will have to wait.

[Jeff]

I'm taking my first steps back towards the living... ordered a Shuttle AN50R for destruction... err... I mean use. ;) A couple people have said they think the A64 should be ok so I'm taking a chance that it's ok and the mobo is dead. (keeping my fingers crossed too)

Only bummer is, the weather has turned cold and will be getting frigid in a day or two. My cooling temp is at a nice -4c right now and it's only going to be getting colder. Just wish I had a rig to push during this frigid time.

[Tedinde]

Originally posted by Techmasta
Thats sad. I was waiting to see what you could do with an A64. Oh well I guess we will have to wait.

expensive keychain is on the rigits. Same steppings SL6W6 L325 was the old one, this one's L337.

I still wanna go the AMD route. Im going to put it back together tonight. Test it out and might just sell the rig. Hopefully it'll do 4ghz, crossed fingers. Easier to sell!!!

Got A64 on the brain now!!!! Plus i want to go to better cooling. Easier to sell stuff complete.

Got plenty of rigs here to hold me over.

I can barely read the numbers on the old 3.2 on the right.

[Tedinde]

fired up on air @ 240fsb 3.85ghz on a zalman. IS7 test rig. Figure i'd let it burn in a little while im out tonight. Hopefully there will be no blue smoke when i come home.

[Silversink]

Originally posted by Tedinde


I can barely read the numbers on the old 3.2 on the right.

You make it sound like the 3.2 is an antique, it's still Intels 2nd fastest processor :rolleyes:

Hey Jeff, Hang in there buddy, mistakes happen and if you learn how it happened you can hopefully not make the same mistake twice. Also you may save someone elses rig as you gave a good description of the unfortunate event.

Sorry to hear of this mishap :(

[Tedinde]

You make it sound like the 3.2 is an antique, it's still Intels 2nd fastest processor

Yeah guess your right. Dam chip had been in my computer since oct 15th. 2003. That's a record as much as i change stuff.

Been messing with the new chip on air, the old one would do 4ghz on air @ 1.62V. this one isnt making it stable with a zalman.

maybe a overnight burnin will help it.

[Jeff]

Well... it's official... the A64 3200+ is D.E.A.D.. :(

I just tried it in the new AN50R I bought and no post. The on-board LEDs light for power and memory voltage but nothing more. I tried the four sticks of RAM I have laying around and nothing. Tried 2 different video cards and nothing. Tried clearing the BIOS and nothing. Tried 3 different power supplies and nothing.

Not even the keyboard LEDs will light. :(

DAMN THIS SUXORS!!! I'm going to have to wait quiet a bit to get anything new since there are still a few Christmas bills to take care of. ;) And then there's the new 10.5hp snowblower and 5500w Honda powered generator I just had to have a few months back. ;)

Oh well... I may be posting a few things for sale to fund an A64. I still have two farm rigs that I may just have to donate to this noble cause. ;) (please excuse the disgusting amount of smilies but I'm trying not to cry).

;) :) :sick: :upset: :explode: :dammit: :wierd: :bsod:

So...

Xabre200 - 2 (at least, still not sure of the K8N Pro)
Jeff - negative, negative, negative. :(

[Holst]

Oh §§§§... that sucks ass big time..

This has been a awfull week all around it seems.

I just totaly messed up a great friendship with a girl by asking her out... I think id have rather killed my PC I feel so awfull ATM..

So chin up Jeff.. you could feel worse beleve me.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Holst
I just totaly messed up a great friendship with a girl by asking her out... I think id have rather killed my PC I feel so awfull ATM...

Well that sucks. But... isn't that considered a compliment? I mean... if you didn't like her that much than you'd never even think to ask her out, right? :confused: Unless you were a drunken dunce... then you may have a little bit of making up to do. ;)

Like you said... I'd rather kill a PC than that. :(

[Jeff]

Bit of good news on the ATI Sapphire 9500 front... the card is NOT dead.

:banana: :eleph: :banana: :eleph: :banana:

Just installed it in my 8RDA and it's alive!!! Don't know why it didn't work the other day... but I don't really care as long as it works now. 3DMark looks to be running fine too. :D Woo-hoo!!! :D

So...
Xabre200 - 1
Jeff - 1 (or maybe 2) ;)



I'm starting to think I may have just had some bad timing with my removal of the video card. I don't know if that's what killed the processor or not. Like I said, I'm pretty sure I turned the power supply off, removed the 9500 and set it on the 1st PCI slot. I don't know if bleading off the residual voltage through the first few pins of the PCI slot sent a spike or something through the A64 or what. But I'm going to bet the K8N Pro is ok(just need a new CPU to test it).

I've done this probably 20 times in the past and never had anything happen. Usually turning off the power supply is enough... BUT I think I turned the supply of and remove the 9500 at the same time basically. That's why I think the power supply still had some juice in it.

At any rate, be careful what you do to your system right after power down. Like I said, I've done things many times with the power supply off but I may just change how I do things... this was too expensive of a mistake to not. ;)

[sandman]

Generally, I unplug it and then get my other stuff out, gives it a minute or two to bleed off the voltage.

Hope it works out for you.

[Techmasta]

So which board are you keeping? The an50r or k8n pro(if it still works)?

[Jeff]

I'm going to run the AN50R for a bit to see how I like it. I know the K8N Pro pretty well so I should be able to notice any differences pretty quick.

I'm debating on saving for a A64 3400+ or maybe going with two A64 3000+ chips instead and keeping both boards. I'm a cruncher so all I'd do is retire one of the other computers in the mini-farm or maybe just keep them all running and increase my production. ;) Don't know what I'm going to do really... I've got time to think about it though 'cause nothing will be happening for a while.

[Jeff]

My original K8N Pro works! :cool: Just put an A64 3000+ in it and it's running fine but as a precaution, I changed to a power supply that doesn't have an adjustable 3.3v rail. I also lowered my +12v line to 12.05v to 12.10v.

I have to say... my initial impression of the AN50R is that I've been spoiled by the K8N Pro. ;) I still have to volt mod the AN50R so it's not really a fair comparison(yet), but the Pro just has a nice feel to it.


BTW, I'm :banana:. :D

[makatee]

i §§§§ing hate all computers....ive had 500 bucks of §§§§ crap out the past 2 weeks and im tired of it. i cant stand seeing this happen. while some of the things were my fault, some others just died for no reason. and when i say no reason i mean they werent even overclocked. this hobby sucks sometimes....i just stomped the hell out of a dead 4200 and now i feel like destroying all that crap thats voltmodded and ive abused since i cant rma it.....:mad: