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Hell-Fire
12-17-2003, 11:31 PM
Anyone have an idea what would cause this? The card isnt vmodded, and it has good cooling. Maybe a fresh OS install would do the trick as I have changed drivers several times. But then again, I have a seperate drive for all my dev stuff that I havent changed the drivers on and it does the same thing.
On animated .gifs, the pixels look like they are moving around. A better way of saying it is that they blink so to speak. Is an rma in order?
The pixels are a mess....its even worse when rendering pictures.
This problem does not occur every boot, but often enough to be a concern. Another weird thing about it is that it seems to get better the longer the system is up. That doesnt always happen, but frequently is does. It was real bad while making this post, but now its far better.
What ya think?
faruquehabib
12-18-2003, 08:42 AM
i would rma the thing. if it acts up now, it will probably only get worse
Hell-Fire
12-18-2003, 02:36 PM
A friend of mine said he read where in some instances cards do that that arent overclocked or vmodded....its because one of the capacitors is to cold....
That would explain why after the system is running for a bit, the pixel problems go away. There are 2 80's blowing pretty much right on the caps...and my house is fairly cool.
Kobalt
12-18-2003, 03:06 PM
I would consult the graphics card manufacturer. It may be just a simple driver update, or it could be your card is messed up. Try raising the 5v rail if you have adjustable pots...try different drivers...reseat card...mess with gfx settings like agp aperture and stuff. GL
lalPOOO
12-18-2003, 09:05 PM
My card started doing something similar to that today after i put some new heatsinks on the mosfets below the agp slot, took em off, and found that the thermal epoxy stuff must have been bridging the mosfets pins slightly.
So in your case it may be something similar, maybe too much thermal paste, or a little bit of magic (metal) dust floating around. Just something to check.
Hell-Fire
12-18-2003, 11:00 PM
Sounds like a reasonable explanation.
I am tearing this rig apart soon to put a water system in, so I will recheck all my vmods and make sure to blow the baord off well to remove any copper strands or solder flecks.
Thx
Geforce4ti4200
12-19-2003, 02:54 AM
I dont think cold has to do with it. maybe a short circuit. did you change the stock heatsink? also is it your monitor going?
Hell-Fire
12-19-2003, 06:07 AM
Could be a short, I only changed the back heat "panel".
What do you mean by is my monitor going.....as in about to crumble. I dont think so, only a yr old. But maybe I should take it to a friends house to test out.
skate2snow
12-19-2003, 07:05 AM
i have the exactly same thing, but only when i OC my MEM more then 375. So if its not OC its probably your MEM are heating or they have a default;)
Geforce4ti4200
12-19-2003, 07:47 AM
what I mean are the pixels on your monitor malfunctioning or is it the video to blame?
Hell-Fire
12-19-2003, 08:13 AM
Dont think its the monitor...atleast I hope not as its a yr old 18.1" LCD.
lalPOOO
12-19-2003, 07:30 PM
That could actually be possible as well, my dad had something a bit like that happen to his laptop because of a faulty ribbon cable. Easy way to rule that out, try another monitor.
bldegle2
12-19-2003, 07:53 PM
LCD's can develope dead pixels, in fact, manus have a, uh, certain criteria upon inspection prior to retail sale, and, believe it or not, a dead pixel here and there sneaks out.
Is it always in a localized area or all over the screen? Makes a difference at to what could be causing the problem.
As far as getting better after running for awhile, this is not unheard of, sometimes faulty parts will act this way until sufficiently 'warmed up' through usage.
If it still is under warranty, I would be calling tech support to start a pending case, just in case it gets worse down the road.
Good Luck.
baldy:D
Dissolved
12-19-2003, 08:38 PM
Those arent dead pixles.
its a problem with the cards memory. its either running hot, or low on voltage.
i would rma it if a fresh install/newest drivers doesnt fix it..
when it takes mins after a boot to get rid of the problem, that bascailly says its only going to get worse.
sandman
12-19-2003, 08:44 PM
Yea, RMA it.
It's on it's way out I'm afraid.
Hell-Fire
12-19-2003, 10:41 PM
I sent in RMA request to MSI. Now's a good time to RMA it since I am taking this rig apart anyway.
speedstream5621
12-19-2003, 11:31 PM
Did you try underclocking the card?
Test your friend's theory about the cold capacitator by removing the two fans see if that changes anything.