PDA

View Full Version : Apparently I just murdered my first piece of hardware. Help me tell which one...


afireinside
12-04-2003, 01:16 PM
Ok so last night I got my chiller up and I was talkin on AIM and gettin used to an ergo keyboard again when the liquid temp hits -17.6C and I got scared. 5 seconds later I loose my task bar, musis stops and I go to a black screen. I thought I knew where the problem was and it was on the CPU. Well I filled it up with dielectric greese, waited and than turned it on at -14C and got a black screen. Went to school today and came home and turned chiller on. Hit -7C and I turned rig on to a black screen. Red light on NF7-S is on and my PSU fans are running.

I took the CPU out and threw it in my 8RDA rig along with the ram and it booted fine. This leaves me with the mobo and video card. Well I took off all the surrounding insulation and saw no water or anything. I really don't want to have to take the blocks off. Could I have killed the video card by clamping the water block on it covering some caps with insulation? By the symptons I discribed can you possibly identify the problem? I was really hoping it was a dead CPU because than I could throw my 2100+ that did 2.3ghz in there and hopefully with a chilled NB and CPU it would do alot better... Well thats not the case :( I wanted to get this thing running by the weekend. The next best thing now would be the video card if circuit city still has them onsale :p: Than again this one was flashable :(

Well thanks in advance for the help. I'm quite pissed now :|

charlie
12-04-2003, 02:01 PM
It IS the motherboard. Condensation in some deep dark place you can't see. Dry it out thoroughly and it may work again. The only time I've killed boards with condensation was when hte water creeped under 2 separate capacitors....they don't like that!

C

YoupY
12-04-2003, 02:05 PM
Probaly it's your board.

Does it beep at statup? and is it modded?

Keeper
12-04-2003, 02:23 PM
Test with another video card, or better yet test your video card in another system. If water got behind any of the components on your MB weird stuff happens, just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there. A hi powered fan blowing on your MB for a couple days will generally dry it out.

I wanted a great overclock and left my chiller on overnight to get it good and cold, but after a while components close by began to gather condensation (the whole board is connected and will get cold enough to gather condensation if left long enough), when I booted the system up it ran great, but soon after I started benching, weird stuff started to happen. I couldn’t see the condensation, but when it melted I started getting voltage spikes and had to shut it down. I was new at Xtreme chilling and didn’t let it dry out the Xtreme way, and after trying to boot up several times a mosfet literally exploded and left my NF7-S a spare BIOS chip and a battery.

I learned the hard way, if your video card fails in another system, then that is probably what it is, but don’t under estimate what a drop of water can do.

Techmasta
12-04-2003, 02:36 PM
As Keeper said. Definitely test the video card in another system to make sure it is or isn't dead.

STEvil
12-04-2003, 03:14 PM
Did you insulate the backside of the motherboard?

afireinside
12-04-2003, 04:41 PM
I have large pieces of 1/4th inch neoprene tight under the CPU and NB. I can't take the video card out without takeing the NB block off...
The CPU NB and GPU are all chilled.

Well I'll put a fan blowing on it and hope all is well. I dont know where I got it though...

iceman2g
12-04-2003, 07:36 PM
What's the proper way to insulate your board to prevent condesation from damaging it? afireinside do you have a pic of your board insulated?

hedge
12-04-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by iceman2g
What's the proper way to insulate your board to prevent condesation from damaging it? afireinside do you have a pic of your board insulated?


Lots of di-electric grease always does the trick. It makes you mobo look like goo, but it is effective. Put the grease anywhere where the foam insulation do fill in around the socket.

kommando
12-04-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by hedge
Lots of di-electric grease always does the trick. It makes you mobo look like goo, but it is effective. Put the grease anywhere where the foam insulation do fill in around the socket.

I guess everywhere is the better?

jamaljaco
12-04-2003, 08:32 PM
:slobber: