Never Happened Before

[randa]

Hallo guys, I need some help concerning my Dual Boot System.

I used to have dual boot system ( XP 32 Bit SP2 and Vista Ultimate 64 Bit ) running well. a few
weeks ago I did repartition my HDD and reinstalled both OS as usual - Xp first, then Vista.

This time, having finished Vista Installation, a few minutes later my system restarted itself and it booted directly to XP -
( dual boot OS option menu does not show up )

When I checked my drive D, the OS of Vista files still remains in it.

* Trying F8, only XP boot menu shows up .........
* Repairing using Vista CD did not work ....

Is there anyone out there can help solve my issue, please ???

Thanks alot in advance ....

[rogard]

Have you tired this from the recovery console:
fixmbr
fixboot
bootcfg /rebuild

?

or you could add
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

(assuming vista is on the 2nd partition of the first disk)

nb: rememeber to backup your boot.ini before making changes.

[randa]

Have you tired this from the recovery console:
fixmbr
fixboot
bootcfg /rebuild

?

or you could add
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

(assuming vista is on the 2nd partition of the first disk)

nb: rememeber to backup your boot.ini before making changes.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

In this notepad of XP should I add

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

please clarify more detail .... where should I add before or after italic bold ?

[rogard]

Well it looks like your Windows XP install is already on partition 1.

Therefore your vista line would like something like this:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

So your entire file would like like this:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

[randa]

I got OS boot up option menu, however, when I chosed and enter Windows Vista the message shows up : "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted" - something like this - <windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Please reinsttal ..... so on

[rogard]

Sounds like your vista install is sick :(

Is ntoskrnl.exe actually there?

[randa]

Yeah..this is the third install, and the issue isn't resolved yet ... what am I supposed to do then, guy? Giving up !!! You're right i found "ntoskrnl" in system32 folder of my Vista >>>>>

[tomslick.ca]

http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1203

[randa]

http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1203

my issue isn't yet resolved ...


Today I changed BOOT LOODER fr

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2])\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

to

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows Vista" /fastdetect

and the message as follows:
windows could start because the following file is missing or corrupted
<windows root>\system32\hal.dll

[Jamesrt2004]

imo id go boot vista disk and fix boot..

that..
or

get easy bcd to do it for you

[randa]

imo id go boot vista disk and fix boot..

that..
or

get easy bcd to do it for you

TQ .... I'm not so familiar with Vista troubleshooting, that's why would u mind verify the steps, please ... or even much better with SS, or you may have a link/forum that verify this kind of troubleshoot ....

I've tried booting with using vista disk and did some repair on Start Up Repair >>> but it didn't work, or may be you have some other steps instead of mine.


second: BCD I've read this from other forum, but it seems to me too complicated,...and I'd rather a simpler troubleshoot if any, of course ....

Last, I'd like to ask you this : Do you think that the Symtoms of Bad Sector HDD could be one of the cause of my issue ?

[SoulsCollective]

OK, so it sounds like we've fixed the not-showing-up-in-boot-menu issue.

Have you been using the same physical disc every time to install Vista? Did you burn that disc yourself? It's possible that your Vista CD is corrupted, meaning reinstalling is still resulting in issues.

[randa]

OK, so it sounds like we've fixed the not-showing-up-in-boot-menu issue.

Have you been using the same physical disc every time to install Vista? Did you burn that disc yourself? It's possible that your Vista CD is corrupted, meaning reinstalling is still resulting in issues.

yups, no I bought a non ORI fr a store.

If my Vista CD's corrupted then why I still could go to desktop for a few minutes once the installation process was finished ?

[SoulsCollective]

yups, no I bought a non ORI fr a store.

If my Vista CD's corrupted then why I still could go to desktop for a few minutes once the installation process was finished ?Hang on, what? You didn't mention being able to boot into Vista above. Or did you mean that
You install XP, and reboot.
You insert the Vista disc, install Vista.
Vista setup reboots your machine and boots into Vista desktop.
When you restart your machine again, you boot into Windows XP with no option to boot into Vista.
When you edit the boot.ini file to have entries for Vista as well as XP, Vista shows up in the boot menu, but attempting to boot into Vista gives errors.
Is that's what's happening here?

[randa]

yes, no 3....my system wento to desktop of Vista for a few minutes while i'm changing resolution and ready to install VGA driver suddenly my system restarted. By then on my system directly booted to XP instead of OS Option Menu to choose XP or Vista. I did as what rogard adviced. And it worked out. I got OS Option menu to choose. As I entered Vista the message as described above shows up
"file ntoskrnl is missing" .... Then I changed Partition in BootLoader for Vista from 2 to 0, as a result the missing file not ntoskrnl anymore but hal.dll

[SoulsCollective]

yes, no 3....my system wento to desktop of Vista for a few minutes while i'm changing resolution and ready to install VGA driver suddenly my system restarted. By then on my system directly booted to XP instead of OS Option Menu to choose XP or Vista.
OK, right, I think I'm with you now.

You say you've attempted to reinstall Vista three times now - does this exact same thing happen every time you reinstall?

[randa]

OK, right, I think I'm with you now.

You say you've attempted to reinstall Vista three times now - does this exact same thing happen every time you reinstall?

correct ... I've been 3 times intalling Vista in a month, the first and the second install I went to desktop for a few minutes after which the system restarted & booted directly to XP, only after I added boot loader for vista did I got OS Option Menu.( the 3rd install that same as the 1st & the 2nd I was still able to go to desktop of Vista )

fyi: I had already XP Installed in my system for a week earlier before I installed Vista

[SoulsCollective]

I'm seriously starting to think that something besides the install process is to blame here. If you've reinstalled Vista three times, and every time it crashes within a few minutes of reaching desktop, I doubt your problem lies with software.

First off, if the PC you're installing this on is OC'd at all, set everything back to stock, and try and get a hold of a new Vista disc to install off of to remove that possibility. Try reinstalling then. If you still have problems, the issue may lie with the HDD - check the SMART data if possible, or try installing to another HDD.

[randa]

I'm seriously starting to think that something besides the install process is to blame here. If you've reinstalled Vista three times, and every time it crashes within a few minutes of reaching desktop, I doubt your problem lies with software.

First off, if the PC you're installing this on is OC'd at all, set everything back to stock, and try and get a hold of a new Vista disc to install off of to remove that possibility. Try reinstalling then. If you still have problems, the issue may lie with the HDD - check the SMART data if possible, or try installing to another HDD.

ok...it's HDD, it makes sense. I just remember now. 3 days after installing XP I run a chkdisk and found 2 bad sector in drive C in which XP is installed. Then I repaired it using HDD Regenerator, and the issue gone, the system run back normally- means the speed of my PC peformance equals to as it used to be.

I also run chkdisk both with windows and HD tunes for drive D in which I installed Vista and I found no BS...

Do you think it's the main problem my Vista installation failed eventhough drive D is clean ?

P/S. HDD Reg manual says since it is a logical drive windows will read the drive in a bad sector except repartition, windows won't read it anymore

[SoulsCollective]

I've never heard of "HDD regenerator", but to the best of my knowledge it's not possible to "recover" bad sectors through software. If the drive platter is not magnetically writeable anymore, that's it. You can hide the bad sector so that programs and apps don't attempt to read/write to it, which is like sticking a bandaid over the problem, but I really don't think you can "recover" it.

I'm not 100% certain that the problem is with your HDD - it could be any number of issues. All I think anyone can say at this point is that there's either a hardware error in your system somewhere, or your Vista disk is borked (and I'm really not certain how you could install Vista at all if your install disc is busted).

[randa]

this issue really drag me down, googling to solve my issue, there many enough have the same issue as mine and some resolved while the other remain unsolved.

anyway do you have knowledge about how the impact to HDD if it's partitioned too often ?

I should go and try this way as i did some time a go with the same issue of my 80 GB HDD in a bad sector condition after repairing with HDD regenerator then repartitioned it. Reinstall both XP and Vista without this issue.

Finally, I thank you SoulsCollective for sharing with me....

[SoulsCollective]

There is no way partitioning a HDD can damage it. All you're doing is flipping a few bits, it's not like you're physically changing any essential characteristic of the HDD.

Try dropping all BIOS settings back to stock, using a different install disc if you can, and trying on a different HDD.

And no worries mate, we're all here to try and help ;)

[randa]

After repartitioning both my HDD and reinstalling OS ... everything is now in a good shape.

There's something wrong with my 500 gb drive, I didn't know why, which I used as storage having Status "System"..... I guessed ntoskrl.exe or hall.dll files was in this drive (F) instead of in drive D in which I Installed Vista .... weird !!! how come !!!