*** Official Radeon HD5800 Series Overclocking Thread *** [Archive] - Page 3

jaredpace

10-29-2009, 09:20 AM

yah it's exactly the speed of 5850 x-fire, maybe a little faster. I bet if you had this a 1.1ghz it'd score close to 30k gpu

http://i34.tinypic.com/vnjko0.jpg

edit: this is from Bodar @ guru3d.
It appears the ABT benchmarks are done on a dual 1440SP card, because here is the comparison with dual 1600SP at the same clocks + same cpu.
(Look at the 3DV CPU score.)

Bodar's Settings
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/comparison2-1.png

ABT ES 5950
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/gggggggggggg.jpg

Bodar's 5870 Crossfire
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/crysisx2.png

ABT ES 5950
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/gggg.jpg

Bodar's 5870 Crossfire
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/vantage2.png

ABT ES 5950
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/ggggg.jpg

Bodar's 5870 Crossfire
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/stalkerbench.png

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3328641&postcount=19

Summary:

3Dmark Vantage (P score - GPU):

5850 CF 1440sp 725/1000 - P21308 / 20734 (87%)
5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - P21940 / 21151 (89%)
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - P22891 / 22342 (95%)
5870 CF 1600sp 850/1200 - P23308 / 23657 (100%)

Crysis Warhead (min - avg - max):

5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - 20.4, 34.2, 42.2
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - 24.6, 37.4, 46.2

Stalker Clear Sky (average frames):

5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - 45.7, 43.8, 47.7, 35.6
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - 49.8, 49.3, 54.7, 38.1

jfer

10-29-2009, 09:27 AM

Hi! Are these temperatures on Voltage regulators scary?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8692/3dmark06oc.jpg

zalbard

10-29-2009, 09:29 AM

Definitely higher than average. But should be safe. Don't worry about them. If that's the highest they go up to of course.

SonDa5

10-29-2009, 10:49 AM

Hi! Are these temperatures on Voltage regulators scary?

Very scary. With no load looks like it's going to melt under load. I'd go back to stock cooler till the problem is fixed.

Also nice 3dMark06 score. I'm just a little higher. (with Q9550@4.3ghz)
Your CPU has an advantage and I'm sure with some over clocking your can hit 26,000+

SonDa5

10-29-2009, 10:51 AM

If this is true then i am not impressed. My friend on a 5870 @ 1.1ghz has scores very close to this and his i7 920 is around 3.7-3.8Ghz....

That doesn't look promising for i7.

Maby the newer i9 builds can get it to go.

zalbard

10-29-2009, 11:14 AM

Very scary. With no load looks like it's going to melt under load. I'd go back to stock cooler till the problem is fixed.
They are designed to work at up to 110 C afaik.
Temps are high, but not horrible. I'd get worried if they started going over 80 C, though.
And he isn't the only one.
See here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4048467&postcount=117). Pretty close. Just a random link that took 30 seconds to find.
But if it's going over 80 C under load, then I agree, definitely, look into the problem, it's not normal IMO.

jfer

10-29-2009, 11:18 AM

Very scary. With no load looks like it's going to melt under load. I'd go back to stock cooler till the problem is fixed.

Also nice 3dMark06 score. I'm just a little higher. (with Q9550@4.3ghz)
Your CPU has an advantage and I'm sure with some over clocking your can hit 26,000+

Thats the max Temps during 3 Loops of 3dmark06. At idle they stay between 38~42ºC.

zalbard

10-29-2009, 11:20 AM

Thats the max Temps during 3 Loops of 3dmark06. At idle they stay between 38~42ºC.
That's okay then! :up:
Not going to kill your card for sure. Just a bit warmer than for most folks here. Maybe disassemble the cooler to check if everything is fine if temps start rising.

SonDa5

10-29-2009, 12:21 PM

Thats the max Temps during 3 Loops of 3dmark06. At idle they stay between 38~42ºC.

Your GPU-Z screen shot shows it ideling with o% load. Your GPU core isn't that hot but your other temps look hot.

bhavv

10-29-2009, 02:34 PM

I got my 5770s stable at 1000 Mhz, needed the fan to be put very loud, and 1.225v:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2203/57701ghz.png

They definately wont go up to 1050 Mhz though, even with 1.35v and the fan set to 100%, everything artifacts.

By stable, I mean that I've been playing Battleforge for over an hour without any problems, and the temps are below 90 degrees with a noisy fan. I need to wait for some compatible VRM coolers before I can start modifying them.

At 100% default fan and clock settings, the first card was going up to 97-100+ degrees in battleforge.

They've been fine for over 3 hours of Battleforge now and remained under 90 degrees at 88 max :)

Gamer

10-29-2009, 02:42 PM

I've bought this Riser to work with 4 cards, but it seems it doesn't work.
I guess I bought the wrong one ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Flexible-PCI-E-PCI-Express-16x-Riser-Card-Extender-7Y_W0QQitemZ350204892049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Comp uting_ComputerComponents_InterfaceCards

Can someone tell for sure ?

thanks.
EVGA Classified 759.

Rattle

10-29-2009, 06:10 PM

wow 5000 series are so sexy

gabe

10-29-2009, 06:35 PM

in response to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4086131&postcount=507

Definitely higher than average. But should be safe. Don't worry about them. If that's the highest they go up to of course.

While I do agree with your statement from a strict technical standpoint, I can't help but feeling quite frustrated by the "don't worry" advice. As manufacturers (and I am sure other colleagues might agree with me if they read this), we spend countless hours to fine-tune every aspect of our cooling systems to lower all the critical temps to a minimum. There was a long discussion earlier in this thread where ppl agonized about the shape of the water-block flow path to see if it was optimized to cool the VRM's..

jfer didn't specifiy what type of waterblock he is using, full cover, or gpu only. If it is a full-cover block, these temps are not worth the money he spent on the product (or RMA is in order). If he is using a gpu only cooler and individual sinks, then some ventilation on the sinks wouldn't hurt.

Also, I don't know if ATI has a temperature shutdown associated with the VRM's, but I found out working on the dual board GTX295 that nVidia has. The Board would lock up in high voltage high overclocks pushing the VRM's beyond 90 C.

ajaidev

10-30-2009, 02:11 AM

yah it's exactly the speed of 5850 x-fire, maybe a little faster. I bet if you had this a 1.1ghz it'd score close to 30k gpu

edit: this is from Bodar @ guru3d.
It appears the ABT benchmarks are done on a dual 1440SP card, because here is the comparison with dual 1600SP at the same clocks + same cpu.
(Look at the 3DV CPU score.)

Summary:

3Dmark Vantage (P score - GPU):

5850 CF 1440sp 725/1000 - P21308 / 20734 (87%)
5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - P21940 / 21151 (89%)
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - P22891 / 22342 (95%)
5870 CF 1600sp 850/1200 - P23308 / 23657 (100%)

Crysis Warhead (min - avg - max):

5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - 20.4, 34.2, 42.2
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - 24.6, 37.4, 46.2

Stalker Clear Sky (average frames):

5950 ES 1440sp 725/1000 - 45.7, 43.8, 47.7, 35.6
5870 CF 1600sp 725/1000 - 49.8, 49.3, 54.7, 38.1

I think that is correct 100%, this may as well be the 1440 * 2 card. But i hope AMD calls it 5950 and not 5970. Well the clock speed and memory speed make sense and so do the performance and price "This is why its suppose to be so close to the 5870 price"

If they call it 5970 that would be wrong representation but i guess they can call it what ever the hell they feel like. I would have like a shorter PCB since the 4 * 5850's we have for milkyway@home is just rite to fit in a normal case without any mods.

In the end i would buy either this or the GF100 depending on the performance and how much they cost. I for one would have loved a 5890 with clock speeds around 1Ghz and special vaporX cooler. Would have not mind spending some extra bucks on that but it should be priced under the GF100.... :rolleyes:

Gaul

10-30-2009, 08:58 AM

ABT ES 5950
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e393/damesviolet/gggggggggggg.jpg

i'll compare with 5870 def + q66 @ 4 gH :)

http://i36.tinypic.com/25ez5lw.jpg

zalbard

10-30-2009, 09:18 AM

in response to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4086131&postcount=507

While I do agree with your statement from a strict technical standpoint, I can't help but feeling quite frustrated by the "don't worry" advice. As manufacturers (and I am sure other colleagues might agree with me if they read this), we spend countless hours to fine-tune every aspect of our cooling systems to lower all the critical temps to a minimum. There was a long discussion earlier in this thread where ppl agonized about the shape of the water-block flow path to see if it was optimized to cool the VRM's..

jfer didn't specifiy what type of waterblock he is using, full cover, or gpu only. If it is a full-cover block, these temps are not worth the money he spent on the product (or RMA is in order). If he is using a gpu only cooler and individual sinks, then some ventilation on the sinks wouldn't hurt.

Also, I don't know if ATI has a temperature shutdown associated with the VRM's, but I found out working on the dual board GTX295 that nVidia has. The Board would lock up in high voltage high overclocks pushing the VRM's beyond 90 C.
Alright, my bad.
I read the post, but I missed the post's title, which was "Watercooled 5850@1000/1300". So I was assuming he was on air. Hence the misunderstanding.
Since he is using liquid cooling, I have to agree with you completely.
Just one thing to add.
This post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4064856&postcount=398
Perhaps jfer can tell us if it's under water or not. I assume it is air judging the fan speed reported by GPU-Z. If it's the same water cooling solution as the one he used for the last run, then something is going wrong with the waterblock, or with the card, since VRM temperatures have significantly increased since then.
And one more thing, I wouldn't be surprised if this were his VRM temps for GPU-only waterblock. VRMs can easily get hot as hell. Perhaps he might want to have a look at the special VRM solution made by Thermalright.

jfer

11-01-2009, 05:20 AM

Im having my 5850 with a D-Tek Fusion(not lapped), BGA ram sincks, and 2Revoltec 50mm on the 4regulators at 4100rpm(very low noise btw).
Here some pics:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2735/gputemp1ghz.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6347/2910091452.jpg

R3DCrocker1

11-01-2009, 08:43 AM

Did some 01 this weekend. Had some strange issues. Card wouldnt clock to 1120 on dice on the asus bios and topped out at 920 on the MSI one.
Doesnt matter though. i got a strong nature card! over 6ghz on the CPU wil give me gold!

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm450/REDCrocker/01.jpg

bhavv

11-01-2009, 09:24 AM

If I remover the 5770 stock cooler for an aftermarket one, where abouts, other then the GPU and Ran chips do I need to attack heatsinks to?

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6163/23862168.jpg

I have two packs of 10 mofset heatsinks ordered that will fit on the 9 black chips next to the Yageo things, so i need heatsinks anywhere else?

Icebob

11-01-2009, 11:50 AM

Here's my vantage work on a P55 platform Trifire 5870

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6438/33343.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/33343.jpg/)

pr@$r1g

11-02-2009, 08:24 AM

^ what mobo is it ,runs 3x 5870 on P55
x8,x8,x4 config ?

R3DCrocker1

11-02-2009, 09:13 AM

that would be the EVGA P55 Classified

http://www.evga.com/articles/00502/classified/
http://www.evga.com/articles/00502/images/e659.jpg

SonDa5

11-02-2009, 10:43 AM

My Futuremark work with DFI P45 JR T2RS and Q9550 with single HD5850.

3dMark03= 92,147

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=6213276

3dMark05= 29,199

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=5042946

3dMark06 = 24,422

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12274206

Vantage = P18,289

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1523825

Icebob

11-02-2009, 04:55 PM

^ what mobo is it ,runs 3x 5870 on P55
x8,x8,x4 config ?

According to cpuz runs the 3 of them @ x8

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8098/linkwidth.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/linkwidth.jpg/)

SonDa5

11-02-2009, 08:33 PM

Icebob CPU-Z is probably wrong. Unless Intel did a special deal for that MB.

Icebob

11-03-2009, 02:21 AM

Icebob CPU-Z is probably wrong. Unless Intel did a special deal for that MB.

I thought that the nf200 chip will take care of that. Here's a quote from the Guru3d review:
"Humanahummana ... check that out ! That's six physical x16 slots. The reality is of course much different, once you need to split up the PCIe ports. With 2-way SLI or Crossfire you can link x16 on the two ports thanks to the NF200 silicon, but you'll revert to x8 PCIe lanes available in a 3-way configuration. The black PCIe slot is a x4 slot by the way. Hard to see, but all the way to the left you can also see a x1 PCie slot. "

pr@$r1g

11-03-2009, 05:54 AM

According to cpuz runs the 3 of them @ x8

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8098/linkwidth.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/linkwidth.jpg/)

running crossfire on nf200 :up:

roki977

11-03-2009, 02:40 PM

my 3dmark 06 scores
core i7 950 4,54Ghz 5870 1000/1300,air 28552
http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/765572_NewPicture051.jpg

core i7 920 4,35Ghz 5870 900/1300 + 5850 775/1125,air 29719
http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/733568_NewPicture028.jpg

BuBBle.D

11-04-2009, 12:12 PM

jfer

11-04-2009, 01:00 PM

If you watch the temps of the voltage regulators and keep them under 65~70ºC
you´ll be fine! Im gona push mine to 1.4 and keep it 24/7 but i have it watercooled and sinks with fans on the Vregulators.:up:

BuBBle.D

11-04-2009, 01:53 PM

Thanks for the heads up bro.

|Oc|REvO_HsArC

11-05-2009, 03:38 AM

how do you guys install the overclocking software in Windows7 X64?

its always tells me "driver not signed". I Can't even run rivatuner or other monitoring software (easytune6 etc)

enkie

11-05-2009, 07:15 AM

Here is what I tested quickly on Vantage, i think increasing the frequency gpu carefree at 1020/1050 .

http://i83.servimg.com/u/f83/12/23/45/17/3dmv10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=264&u=12234517)

Astennu

11-06-2009, 12:41 AM

Hey guys.
I havent followed this thred and just want to know how high are you pushing the voltage on the core for the 5870 cards? Is 1.35 to high?
I used 1.4V on my previous 4890s 6 months without a problem.

Well the default is 1.16v for the RV870XT. The RV790 has a default of 1.316. And the RV790XT (1GHz) is running on 1.4375v.

And you are looking at 40nm vs 55nm chips. The smaller the transistors get the lower the voltages go.(there are exceptions. It also depends on the chip its design) I see a lot of people running voltages of 1.3+ on the RV870's. With good cooling that should not be a problem. But 1.45+ i would not recommend on wc. But we will have to wait a while until we know it for sure.

etoo

11-07-2009, 02:09 AM

Hi guys,
Can someone get me a bios unlocked XFX HD5870 ??
My video card is XFX and I would like to use an bios XFX...
thanks..

BuBBle.D

11-07-2009, 06:40 AM

.And you are looking at 40nm vs 55nm chips. The smaller the transistors get the lower the voltages go.(there are exceptions. It also depends on the chip its design) I see a lot of people running voltages of 1.3+ on the RV870's. With good cooling that should not be a problem. But 1.45+ i would not recommend on wc. But we will have to wait a while until we know it for sure.

Yea i know bro. The lower the manufacturing process. the lower the safe 24/7 voltage. So i`l keep it at 1.3 max with the stock cooler.

stingush

11-08-2009, 09:43 AM

guys, how can i get GPUZ to show my real current frequencies ?
i have force3d 5850 unlocked with msi bios

ante_ante

11-09-2009, 02:01 PM

I have this card VTX3D Radeon HD5850 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB , do u think i can use the MSI unlock bios to go past the limit . My limit now on Core in CCC is 775 and mem 1125....
This card http://www.vtx3d.com/products_features.asp?id=38

yiannit

11-09-2009, 07:22 PM

stingush

11-09-2009, 10:34 PM

its really low for 2x 5870s...
here's mine :
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2162/58823698.png

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6808/34430068.png

the thing is that just after this, i found out that my memory can stay up untill 1260... :P cause i didn't understood the way to check and stablize them so i put them on low freq...

TMWH

11-10-2009, 02:17 AM

your cpu is holding you back...

Viss

11-10-2009, 02:29 AM

here's my awesome vantage score i dont know wtf is up im pretty sure it has to do with vantage, because i was getting higher scores before, btw this is with x2 5870s in xfire 1000/1300, i7v 920 at 4.2

Thats low indeed. HT enabled should help. What driver you use? Are you sure crossfire is enabled, seems like a single card score.

4200mhz i7 HT enabled single card @ stock:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/ATI%20HD5870/VP17898.jpg

1000/1200:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/ATI%20HD5870/VP125v1000-1200.jpg

yiannit

11-10-2009, 07:46 AM

your cpu is holding you back...

my cpu isnt holding me back i7 920 @ 4.2

i was scoring in the mid 20k a week ago. all the sudden its scoring low

crossfire is enabled and windows is recognizing both cards, i'm using the beta drivers which i have been for the past month or so. i'm pretty sure its a vantage problem i tried uninstalling and reinstalling which didnt work

i rolled back my drivers to cat 9.10 and same results except i scored at 20k. i disabled xfire and scored 17425 wtf is going on here? a week ago i was scoring 25k+ on stock

Blkout

11-10-2009, 03:31 PM

here's my awesome vantage score i dont know wtf is up im pretty sure it has to do with vantage, because i was getting higher scores before, btw this is with x2 5870s in xfire 1000/1300, i7v 920 at 4.2

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/yiannit/screenshots.jpg

That score is too low, I think you may have something set wrong in your CCC settings. What are you using to overclock your video cards, hopefully not AMD GPU Clock Tool.

I score P22646 in Vantage with my crossfire 5850's at 950/1250, and i7 at 3.8GHz HT enabled, CCC settings are highest quality.

Blkout

11-10-2009, 03:33 PM

my cpu isnt holding me back i7 920 @ 4.2

i was scoring in the mid 20k a week ago. all the sudden its scoring low

crossfire is enabled and windows is recognizing both cards, i'm using the beta drivers which i have been for the past month or so. i'm pretty sure its a vantage problem i tried uninstalling and reinstalling which didnt work

i rolled back my drivers to cat 9.10 and same results except i scored at 20k. i disabled xfire and scored 17425 wtf is going on here? a week ago i was scoring 25k+ on stock

25k+ sounds too high at stock GPU settings. Low 20K's I can possibly believe.

BuBBle.D

11-10-2009, 04:30 PM

I think this will be my sweet spot. No reason to go higher with the stock cooler since the gain will be small. Just need to find max MEM freq. and im good to go.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4407/5870oc.jpg

yiannit

11-10-2009, 07:33 PM

25k+ sounds too high at stock GPU settings. Low 20K's I can possibly believe.

24102 was my score at stock http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=1520046&resultType=19

now im getting 17k using both , but when i run the heaven dx11 benchmark im scoring normal. thats why i think its vantage

mav2000

11-10-2009, 08:31 PM

Guys I need some help here. Got my 5870 last evening and even though the 3dm06 scores seem to be in line with others at 1 Ghz core and 1.25 mem, the 3dmV score is around 12,000 for the GPU. This is not correct as it should be something close to 17,000 by my calculation. My system specs are in my sig and Im running it at 4 Ghz and getting an absolute crap 3dmv score...any help guys??? I reinstalled 3dm Vantage again, as there was a gtx 295 before this, but that didnt seem to help it.

TechloGoblin

11-10-2009, 11:43 PM

25k+ sounds too high at stock GPU settings. Low 20K's I can possibly believe.

with two 5870's running at 900/1300 I get 26xxx on the GPU score.

Blkout

11-11-2009, 02:43 AM

with two 5870's running at 900/1300 I get 26xxx on the GPU score.

Guess I should have been more specific, I was talking about the highest quality settings in CCC, not the lowest settings for bench queens. I don't bench at the lowest quality settings because I would never play a game at those settings. There's almost a 3K point different in Vantage P scores between the lowest and highest image quality settings in CCC. My 5850's score 25224 at the lowest quality settings compared to 22646 at the highest quality.

TechloGoblin

11-11-2009, 11:39 AM

Guess I should have been more specific, I was talking about the highest quality settings in CCC, not the lowest settings for bench queens. I don't bench at the lowest quality settings because I would never play a game at those settings. There's almost a 3K point different in Vantage P scores between the lowest and highest image quality settings in CCC. My 5850's score 25224 at the lowest quality settings compared to 22646 at the highest quality.

gotcha!...Was just letting you know incase you thought something was wrong. Just trying to help..It's hard on a forum when someone isn't specific.

yiannit

11-11-2009, 12:41 PM

which setting in ccc is highest? under 3d settings?

TechloGoblin

11-11-2009, 01:36 PM

which setting in ccc is highest? under 3d settings?

yes, don't forget there are also in game settings

You can usually set up to 8x AA, and 16X AF in game

HardOCP just wrote a nice article about these settings used in the game Need For Speed: Shift. If you enable the settings in the ATI CCC you in effect get even higher AA and AF in game...Here is a link to the direct page in the article which talks about these settings:

http://hardocp.com/article/2009/11/10/need_for_speed_shift_gameplay_performance_iq/8

Blkout

11-11-2009, 02:43 PM

which setting in ccc is highest? under 3d settings?

Yes, use the 3D menu, then under the standard settings, move the slider all the way to the right for optimal quality. I do not bench below these settings because these are the settings I use to play games.

Blkout

11-11-2009, 02:45 PM

gotcha!...Was just letting you know incase you thought something was wrong. Just trying to help..It's hard on a forum when someone isn't specific.

No problem, its my fault, there are so many settings when discussing scores that it's hard to remember to mention them all, control panel settings, BIOS settings, application settings, etc...

Lightman

11-11-2009, 03:03 PM

roller11

11-11-2009, 03:24 PM

I've used AMDGpu tool + afterburner to OC my 5850 to 815/1200. Problem is, upon reboot, my clocks revert to stock 725/1000. Is there a way to do a full OC without encountering the 775 limit other than BIOS flash? If I set GPU clock to 775 or less, the settings stick on reboot. Above 775, they go back to 725/1000.

yiannit

11-11-2009, 06:43 PM

well after inverting the cards i ran vantage again and im happier with my score 28503 1000/1300. but i swapped them to see if i get the same beeping error i got this morning if i do then my pcie slot is faulty

well i ran it again and i got 18kish score theres definately something wrong either with vantage or my hardware

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/yiannit/screenshots-1.jpg

phsinc1

11-13-2009, 04:02 PM

isn't the HD5850 share the same memory as the HD5870?

setting memory @ 1150 or 1200 give me same vantage score

Blkout

11-13-2009, 06:04 PM

isn't the HD5850 share the same memory as the HD5870?

setting memory @ 1150 or 1200 give me same vantage score

Same speed memory on the 5850 and 5870. The difference between 1150 and 1200 is not enough to really notice which is probably why you didn't see an increase, especially if you benched at the default Performance setting. You should see a small increase at the Extreme setting.

The 4800 and 5800 series benefits far more from core overclocking than memory overclocking.

phsinc1

11-14-2009, 02:23 AM

Same speed memory on the 5850 and 5870. The difference between 1150 and 1200 is not enough to really notice which is probably why you didn't see an increase, especially if you benched at the default Performance setting. You should see a small increase at the Extreme setting.

The 4800 and 5800 series benefits far more from core overclocking than memory overclocking.

is the PWM for the memory controller on the HD5850 exactly same as HD5870?

Blkout

11-14-2009, 08:05 AM

is the PWM for the memory controller on the HD5850 exactly same as HD5870?

Everything is the same except that the 5850 uses 3 phases instead of 4 phases on the 5870. Regardless, both of my XFX cards run at 1000/1250 without any trouble with a slight voltage increase using MSI Afterburner.

phsinc1

11-14-2009, 08:25 AM

Everything is the same except that the 5850 uses 3 phases instead of 4 phases on the 5870. Regardless, both of my XFX cards run at 1000/1250 without any trouble with a slight voltage increase using MSI Afterburner.

Thanks for the help

so far I got my 5850 to 900/1200 with 1.17v, is this good voltage for that speed?

Blkout

11-14-2009, 03:52 PM

Thanks for the help

so far I got my 5850 to 900/1200 with 1.17v, is this good voltage for that speed?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4109995&postcount=34

phsinc1

11-15-2009, 03:01 PM

if anyone still looking for the official ASUS 5850 bios unlocked to 1200/1400, here is it

http://hotfile.com/dl/17667752/2859389/asus.rom.html

bhavv

11-16-2009, 05:03 AM

I got 1025 Mhz stable with my Silent Zalman coolers:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3064/5770zalman1025.png

It artifacts at 1050 though.

stingush

11-17-2009, 01:34 AM

guys, how can i get my 5850 to work on *more* than 1.35V?
is it needed for a VMOD or only a software mod?

rickxbox

11-17-2009, 04:22 AM

I want to start ocing my Asus 5870 to about 1000/1250 but im having a problem with my fan. I cant control it anymore. In the start i could control it but now in Afterburner and in CCC i can move the bar all i want but the card is not changing the speed. I have tried reinstalling both programs but its not working.

My software is telling me that the fan is running on 50% but the noise to low for that. Could somebody check his gpu-z on what rpm your fan is when you are using it for 27%. I think mine is to low, so that mean my fancontroler on the card broke?

http://plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk/2009/11/17/1258475703-680.jpg

Andrea deluxe

11-17-2009, 10:02 AM

anyone have a 5870 vapor x or powercolor lsc?

i need one of them bios....

Unoid

11-18-2009, 04:15 PM

phsinc1

11-18-2009, 06:38 PM

I got my XFX 5850 in, runs like a champ. Now I got MSI afterburner installed and AMD GPU tool, but the gpu tool keeps telling me "device not found" I tried admin with it on win7x64

I take it I need n ASUS or MSI bios to flash? anyone got links to how to flash including commands etc?

Thanks

Here is the official unlocked ASUS 5850 bios
http://hotfile.com/dl/17667752/2859389/asus.rom.html

you will need a bootable usb stick and atiflash 3.75 and use this command:
atiflash.exe -f -p 0 asus.rom

roller11

11-18-2009, 07:18 PM

using atiflash.exe in DOS,
atiflash -p 0 filename.rom -f

Unoid

11-19-2009, 12:14 AM

Got MSi bios working flawlessly.
stock volts I see 900/1124mhz furmark/unigine stable. Got 47.4FPS in Heaven benchmark 1280x1024 windowed, all high 4AF
Stock clocks of 725/1000 same settings yields me: 40.8fps

rickxbox

11-19-2009, 01:20 AM

Did already somebody change the stock cooling for somthing beter? I know that the Thermalright T-Rad2 and Twin Turbo pro would fit. But i beleave both coolers had a hard time cooling the VDDC.

nickless

11-19-2009, 02:33 AM

For me MSI 5850/5870 unlocked is the best bios and Afterburner works perfectly. Here is my Sapphire 5850 with waterblock on the GPU only, flashed with MSI 5870 unlocked bios: @1112/1285 - 1.35v:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/583/vantage1112128520739.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/vantage1112128520739.jpg/)

Blkout

11-19-2009, 08:28 AM

phsinc1

11-19-2009, 09:03 AM

nickless

11-19-2009, 11:19 AM

1.35v, YIKES! :eek:

I got my two 5850's running at 1000/1250 at 1.278v but I'm not going to push any higher than that.

This 1.35v is only for benching, for 24/7 1000/1200 it needs 1.237v. The main problem for higher numbers and stability is too hot VRM. Look what's happen during Furmark test with VRMs :
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8852/furmark1.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/furmark1.jpg/)

Blkout

11-19-2009, 12:55 PM

This 1.35v is only for benching, for 24/7 1000/1200 it needs 1.237v. The main problem for higher numbers and stability is too hot VRM. Look what's happen during Furmark test with VRMs :
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8852/furmark1.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/furmark1.jpg/)

That doesn't seem accurate. I would expect VDDC numbers in the 80-100 range with a stock cooler, but that is insane. My VDDC's only reach low 50's with EK waterblocks under full load.

Blkout

11-19-2009, 12:57 PM

you got 900 core stable with 1.09v?

No way that's possible. I'm not buying it. I guess everyone's definition of "stable" is different. About 10 Crysis Warhead loops on Frost at 1920x1200 at 4x AA should show how stable it is.

M_T_M

11-20-2009, 01:18 AM

My first 3D Mark 06 with 5870 :)

http://www.shrani.si/t/D/i5/3g8qq7ap/3d-mark-06-1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?D/i5/3g8qq7ap/3d-mark-06-1.jpg)

dcl

11-20-2009, 03:02 AM

Is there a way to set idle clocks?

When I overclock my 5850, the idle clock drops from 400 to 157 which causes my second monitor to flicker.
Is there any other solutions?

Mayke

11-20-2009, 04:34 AM

Is there a way to set idle clocks?

When I overclock my 5850, the idle clock drops from 400 to 157 which causes my second monitor to flicker
Is there any other solutions?

U can create a custom 2d clock using msi afterburner. I tested it when i downloaded 1.4 and it works on my 5870

cowie

11-20-2009, 04:46 AM

nickless

11-20-2009, 06:33 AM

if those are the right vrm temps that card will be in broke pile in not too long :eek:

at 90c i get worried
I see these temps only during Furmark test and GPU-1.35v. In all other 3D test and games temps are between 70-80*C under load but for sure I put additional RAM sinks on the top of PCB above the VRM.

dcl

11-20-2009, 04:41 PM

U can create a custom 2d clock using msi afterburner. I tested it when i downloaded 1.4 and it works on my 5870Cheers, I'll check it out.

Unoid

11-22-2009, 08:05 PM

you got 900 core stable with 1.09v?

Yes, it ran furmark and heaven benchmark at 900 and stock volts. load temp was 60C with 25% fan speed.

EDIT:

I'm on windows 7 with 9.11 and for some reason when I enable ovedrive or use MSi afterburner to overclock. No matter it 1 Mhz or OC to 1ghz, I get screen flicker on my main screen and sometimes my 2nd screen (hydravisioned)

Anyone have this problem while in 2d? When playing a game or something I see no flicker except on 2nd screen.

CARLOS*A1

11-22-2009, 08:46 PM

Hello I'm trying my 2 platforms an my hd 5870 with another 5870 soon I get to spend the 3dmark benchs

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200911/th_20091123054315_20091118040553_I7920HD5870.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200911/20091123054315_20091118040553_I7920HD5870.jpg)

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200911/th_20091123054347_20091118040800_I5HD5870.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200911/20091123054347_20091118040800_I5HD5870.jpg)

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200911/th_20091123054550_FARCRY2.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200911/20091123054550_FARCRY2.jpg)

Gaul

11-23-2009, 02:14 PM

my new system...on air

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ibp7qp.jpg

Barr3l Rid3r

11-23-2009, 06:09 PM

5850 on AiR

http://i50.tinypic.com/166ww0p.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/53tny8.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/a10l05.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/vxktwx.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2wceg4j.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/c7xcl.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2u5rmrs.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/24uvz90.jpg

Jakethesnake011

11-23-2009, 07:14 PM

Nice cooler, is that also made for the 5870, or just the little brother?

Barr3l Rid3r

11-24-2009, 04:56 PM

Nice cooler, is that also made for the 5870, or just the little brother?

actually it wasn't made for none of them, I had to made a lot of work to make it fit.

this is the last job:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2e2qurd.jpg

purecain

11-25-2009, 06:28 AM

is the cpu hsf too big to have it blowing out the back, so that you could use your ddr3 in dual channel.... ?????????

AbjectBlitz

11-25-2009, 05:53 PM

My Vantage Benchmark. Not bad for a Core 2 Duo think I've nearly squeezed out all the performance out of this system. E6700 @ 3.65Ghz & 5970 970/5120.

Wonder how it will jump up once I get a Quad Q9650 @ 4.2Ghz+ :D

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1006/benchsv.jpg

Unoid

11-26-2009, 10:48 AM

Anyone know roughly what clocks a 5850 needs to perform at the same performance as an 5870?
I'd guess 950/1200, anyone got a good idea?

Pandora's Box

11-26-2009, 01:09 PM

Anyone know roughly what clocks a 5850 needs to perform at the same performance as an 5870?
I'd guess 950/1200, anyone got a good idea?

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=614&card2=613#

940 core, 2400 memory.

flopper

11-27-2009, 01:31 AM

Anyone know roughly what clocks a 5850 needs to perform at the same performance as an 5870?
I'd guess 950/1200, anyone got a good idea?

dont tell the whole story, depends on game and resolution also.
Basically, a 5850 is 100mhz on core less than a 5870 to perform the same the 5850 needs 100more on the core.
In practice, games, the difference might not be that big due to game engine and resolutions.

stingush

11-27-2009, 01:50 AM

i'd say 900/1200, according to reviews on 870/1200 the 5850 almost the same as 5870 stock..

Unoid

11-28-2009, 09:33 PM

My XFX with MSi bios runs 940/1200 with small voltage bump to 1.13V Hits 72C at 29% fanspeed on auto.

Now if only I could Overclock without getting the 2d Idle causing flickering...

Unoid

11-28-2009, 09:58 PM

Seems that with latest MSi afterburner theres a hidden option to enable OCing past STOCK BIOS's
Link: http://hwbot.org/article/news/msi_afterburner_140_released_bypass_ccc_limits

I may flash back my stock XFX and test this out.

Blkout

11-29-2009, 05:09 AM

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=614&card2=613#

940 core, 2400 memory.

This is almost correct based on numbers alone. 945/1200 would be just slightly faster than a 5870. But as stated above, number alone don't paint the whole picture and the 5850 is very close to the 5870 in real gaming scenariors even at lower overclocks.

Blkout

11-29-2009, 05:12 AM

My XFX with MSi bios runs 940/1200 with small voltage bump to 1.13V Hits 72C at 29% fanspeed on auto.

Now if only I could Overclock without getting the 2d Idle causing flickering...

That load voltage is incorrect or you're not fully stress testing the card. Try some Crysis Warhead Frost loops. Voltage for 940/1200 should be around the 1.2v.

jaredpace

11-29-2009, 01:19 PM

Aren't voltage requirements different for every chip?

Blkout

11-29-2009, 05:06 PM

Aren't voltage requirements different for every chip?

Slightly, but not that far off. That a BIG difference on a 5800 series card.

jaredpace

11-29-2009, 05:11 PM

Anyone have a 5970 watercooled on a full-cover block? Would like to see your temperatures & voltages!

:)

Unoid

11-29-2009, 05:12 PM

That load voltage is incorrect or you're not fully stress testing the card. Try some Crysis Warhead Frost loops. Voltage for 940/1200 should be around the 1.2v.

Here's screen shot clocks are a lil less but its where I like it. I had time for just the 5 minutes or so but I had it going for 1 hour last night and it was fine. Been gaming and no crashes.

http://unoid.net/pics/5850oc.jpg

jaredpace

11-29-2009, 06:01 PM

where do you get an Afterburner like this !?!?

http://i47.tinypic.com/2iih3j8.jpg

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3560&postcount=124

nickless

11-30-2009, 02:59 PM

I have a question. I flashed my Sapphire 5850 with Asus bios, but Smart doctor 5.51 not work, it gives me an error: "can not find video cards information". Is there any way to fix this? AFAIK when the card is flashed with Asus bios, Smart doctor should work?!

jaredpace

11-30-2009, 03:01 PM

maybe try an older version like 5.48? Does gpu-z read bios sub-vendor ID as ASUS?

skugpezz

11-30-2009, 03:04 PM

where do you get an Afterburner like this !?!?

http://i47.tinypic.com/2iih3j8.jpg

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3560&postcount=124
just change the skin

pinto

11-30-2009, 04:53 PM

No, jaredpace wants to know how to push voltage to 1.6v like me!

nickless

11-30-2009, 11:40 PM

maybe try an older version like 5.48? Does gpu-z read bios sub-vendor ID as ASUS?
Yes, GPU-Z read bios sub-vendor ID as ASUS and I try with Smart doctor 5.46, 5.48 without success.
Someone who use Smart doctor with non Asus card???
Now I use MSI Afterburner, but I want to try asus utility, because AFAIK it allow to set 1.45v vGPU.

Gaul

12-01-2009, 08:10 AM

No, jaredpace wants to know how to push voltage to 1.6v like me!

v1.6 ? cool, and the answer is ?? :welcome:

nickless

12-01-2009, 01:22 PM

v1.6 ? cool, and the answer is ?? :welcome:
Hard vmod with soldering, but it's strange that no one have posted detailed pictures and description of this hard vmod until now. There is some pictures in ATI 5850/5870 voltmod thread, but they are not very clear. It's a big secret maybe ?!

OC Nub

12-01-2009, 01:40 PM

i7-860 4.0ghz 5870cf. I normally don't run vantage so not sure what kind of score to expect from this rig.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3203/vantage.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/vantage.png/)

kpablo

12-01-2009, 10:20 PM

i7-860 4.0ghz 5870cf. I normally don't run vantage so not sure what kind of score to expect from this rig.

URL=http://img205.imageshack.us/i/vantage.png/]IMGhttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3203/vantage.png[/IMG][/URL
Almost same as what i got:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1962/35044313.th.png (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/35044313.png/)

P27050

i7 920@ 4.2GHz
CF HD5870 @ 1000/1350

jaredpace

12-02-2009, 01:02 AM

kpablo & OCnub - Those are some sweet rigs. WOW!~:eek:

Toss3

12-02-2009, 04:24 AM

Would someone mind PM me the stock Sapphire 5850 bios; my HDD with my backup just died and I'd like to go back to stock now that afterburner works with other vendor's cards as well? :)

nickless

12-02-2009, 04:39 AM

Would someone mind PM me the stock Sapphire 5850 bios; my HDD with my backup just died and I'd like to go back to stock now that afterburner works with other vendor's cards as well? :)
You can find it here: http://techpowerup.com/vgabios/57585/Sapphire.HD5850.1024.090916.html

roller11

12-02-2009, 08:49 AM

Seems that with latest MSi afterburner theres a hidden option to enable OCing past STOCK BIOS's

I may flash back my stock XFX and test this out.

This is good to know as the MSI/ASUS overclock BIOS doesn't work on my XFX 5850, the prob is that with these BIOS, I get random crashes when I try to resume from S3 sleep mode. Crash happens about one time in ten (90% of the time sleep mode resumes normally). Any BIOS that trashes sleep mode is absolutely worthless, so I was forced to go back to the stock XFX BIOS. So far, no crashes with stock BIOS.
It's great that MSI AB now fixes the lame "can't overclock" restriction on the XFX boards, but there is still an important design defect with all 5850 boards: thermal downclocking. This "feature" doesn't do a damn thing except limit the OC and/or cause excessive irritating fan noise. It doesn't protect the card AT ALL. Maybe someone can find a fix for thermal downclocking, I figure I'm losing about 80 Mhz of GPU clock because of it.

OC Nub

12-02-2009, 09:25 AM

kpablo, the x58-920 does a bit better at the same cpu speed, your cpu scored higher, also the 8x pci-e freq is hurting the score on the p55. One of my cards is a crappy clocker so unable to test with the same gpu clocks as you.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4692/vantage4200mhz2.png (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/vantage4200mhz2.png/)

OC Nub

12-02-2009, 09:27 AM

kpablo & OCnub - Those are some sweet rigs. WOW!~:eek:

Thank you.

OC Nub

12-02-2009, 07:54 PM

Added some voltage to the cards and ran it again at 4ghz cpu, 1025mhz gpu and improved the score a bit.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8233/vantage1.png (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/vantage1.png/)

Unoid

12-04-2009, 01:12 PM

This is good to know as the MSI/ASUS overclock BIOS doesn't work on my XFX 5850, the prob is that with these BIOS, I get random crashes when I try to resume from S3 sleep mode. Crash happens about one time in ten (90% of the time sleep mode resumes normally). Any BIOS that trashes sleep mode is absolutely worthless, so I was forced to go back to the stock XFX BIOS. So far, no crashes with stock BIOS.
It's great that MSI AB now fixes the lame "can't overclock" restriction on the XFX boards, but there is still an important design defect with all 5850 boards: thermal downclocking. This "feature" doesn't do a damn thing except limit the OC and/or cause excessive irritating fan noise. It doesn't protect the card AT ALL. Maybe someone can find a fix for thermal downclocking, I figure I'm losing about 80 Mhz of GPU clock because of it.

Let me know if when using stock XFX bios and enabling that hidden feature in afterburner 1.4 lets you adjust voltage still and if you can still overclock past the stock limits.

ezaleina

12-04-2009, 07:04 PM

hi.,i have sapphire 5850 card.,can someone tell me how to flash the unlocked bios.,n which bios is the best.,asus or msi..tq

Blkout

12-04-2009, 07:36 PM

hi.,i have sapphire 5850 card.,can someone tell me how to flash the unlocked bios.,n which bios is the best.,asus or msi..tq

Shouldn't need to flash an unlocked BIOS anymore if you use Afterburner 1.4. It has a hidden feature to unlock the stock BIOS.

ezaleina

12-04-2009, 10:46 PM

Shouldn't need to flash an unlocked BIOS anymore if you use Afterburner 1.4. It has a hidden feature to unlock the stock BIOS.

oh ok..tq bro blkout..:up:

Blkout

12-05-2009, 06:10 AM

oh ok..tq bro blkout..:up:

I can't confirm this myself because I had already flashed my 5850's BIOS before Afterburner 1.4 came out. I guess I could flash them back to stock to check it, but I have no interest in doing so right now as everything is working just fine. I don't plan to flash them back to stock until I get ready to sell the cards. Just repeating what I've heard, there's a guide somewhere that tells how to unlock it in Afterburner.

Lokinhow

12-05-2009, 12:30 PM

guys, I get a HD5850 XFX XXX

no problems running at this clocks, need 1.21v ("unlocked" MSI afterburner)

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9937/3dmarko.jpg

I think 1GHz+ is possible with 1.3v...

..but, powerplay doesn't work, so the only way to use higher clocks than CCC limit and keep the Powerplay working is flashing antother BIOS?

Gaul

12-05-2009, 02:19 PM

CPU q9550 @ 4.4 GH + 5870 @ 1000/1300

http://i47.tinypic.com/sg5mdy.jpg

RedHOT

12-05-2009, 04:28 PM

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3467/benchmark5970.jpg

chad

12-05-2009, 10:45 PM

Diamond 5850 1050/1200 @1.27 volts

Q9550 4.1 @1.28 volts

GPU score 18124:cool:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4205/39423167.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/39423167.png/)

owikh84

12-06-2009, 03:24 AM

Sapphire 5850 @1000/1300, 1.25v

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq306/owikh84/Q95504GhzM2F585010001300125vVantage.png

zalbard

12-06-2009, 04:19 AM

Can anyone say anything about these BIOSes?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240336

lowdog

12-06-2009, 01:04 PM

Can anyone say anything about these BIOSes?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240336

Default voltage increase perhaps; http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=310411

Yet to be confirmed though.

zalbard

12-06-2009, 05:15 PM

I was more worried if the unlocked BIOS version was new as well, and whether it was unlocked properly.
Someone is experiencing issues in the thread you linked.

kpablo

12-06-2009, 08:23 PM

This vcards are getting better and better with the times!

Got Catalyts 9.11 Beta 5 Drivers and look now the differences:

3Dmark Vantage:

Catalyst 9.11 Official:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8840/95683275.th.png (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/95683275.png/)

P27050
GPU 27432 points

-----------------

Catalyst 9.11 beta 5:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9936/vantagebeta.th.png (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/vantagebeta.png/)

P27974
GPU 28680

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1665002

----------------

Crysis Warhead:

Catalyst 9.11 Official (with Dirt 2 hotfix)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8630/warhead911.th.png (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/warhead911.png/)
Min: 31.59
Max: 68.14
Avg: 53.21

Catalyst 9.11 beta 5:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/763/warheadbeta.th.png (http://img137.imageshack.us/i/warheadbeta.png/)
Min: 40.46
Max: 88.90
Avg: 70.50

--------------

PC used:
i7 920 @4.2
RAMs @2000MHz
RIIE

OC Nub

12-06-2009, 08:49 PM

kpablo, very nice results. :up:
Will give the beta's a try for sure.

kpablo

12-06-2009, 09:10 PM

kpablo, very nice results. :up:
Will give the beta's a try for sure.
The only bad thing i discovered about the 9.11 beta 5 is not reading well the sensor of the 2nd vcard in 2d mode... it does not recognize, until you run a 3d app, then when you go back to 2D mode, then does not work again... :down:

Can't wait to test the improvements with official 9.12 drivers... :D

[DANGERDAN]

12-06-2009, 10:00 PM

Is that real ?? 9.11 beta 5 so much faster than than the 9.11 full ??

zshadow

12-06-2009, 11:00 PM

;4143368']Is that real ?? 9.11 beta 5 so much faster than than the 9.11 full ??

for crossfire configurations, yes.

eva2000

12-07-2009, 07:12 AM

Joining the club grabbed 3x HD5870 Sapphires (http://i4memory.com/f18/hd5850-hd5870-hd5970-owners-club-21041/). Starting with 2x HD5870 tests first though. Starting to push the clocks on 2x HD5870 in Vantage for Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.

100% fan speed voltages and clocks set in MSI Afterburner v1.41:

975/1263 at 1.187v
985/1263 at 1.212v

@985/1263 noticed that part way into Vantage bench, GPU2's fan speed drops out of 100% speed to 50% fan speed = end result GPU2 is 9C hotter at 63C peak versus GPU1 at 54C peak temps. GPU score seems a bit low ????

3Dmark Vantage = 27,045
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1665802

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870cf/1187v/3dv_985_1263_27045.png

System:

Intel Xeon W3570 3847A696 (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=20800)
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 (http://i4memory.com/f22/ek-supreme-lt-feser-480-dfi-ut-x58-t3eh8-17002/)
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=18752)
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
2x Sapphire HD5870 CF (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=21041) flashed Asus bios 9.11 drivers
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

Took some photos of 2x HD5870 CF setup on Asus P6T6 WS Revolution (supports 3x PCI-E x16 slots for PCI-E #1, #3 and #5 slots). I grabbed my DFI UT X58-T3EH8's longer flexible Crossfire connector bridges as DFI UT X58-T3EH8 has double slot spacing for CF. Wasn't sure if I need both bridges for 2x HD5870 CF as there wasn't any difference in scores really for 1x vs 2x bridges I don't think. Last photo compares the longer crossfire connector bridge with the standard one.

http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_01.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_03.jpg
http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_05.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_06.jpg
http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_07.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_crossfire/SapphireHD5870_CF_08.jpg

eva2000

12-08-2009, 08:36 AM

Now to see how 3x HD5870 Tri-Crossfire does - my first time using triple GPUs on any kind (ATI or Nvidia). Tight fit there with the HD5870s slotted into PCI-E x16 #1 + #3 + #5 slots.

http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_tricrossfire/SapphireHD5870_tricf_01.jpg http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_tricrossfire/SapphireHD5870_tricf_02.jpg
http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_tricrossfire/SapphireHD5870_tricf_03.jpg http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimages/videocards/sapphire/5870_tricrossfire/SapphireHD5870_tricf_04.jpg

Okay first Tri-CrossfireX runs with 3x HD5870 flashed to Asus bioses at stock 850/1200 speeds. I did try Vantage run with them at stock 850/1200 and overclocked at 985/1263 but got much lower GT 1 - Jane Nash score in the low 61-62fps vs my 2x HD5870 run with GT 1 - Jane Nash in the 71-77fps ???. 3dmark05 had virtually same score as 2x HD5870 ????

System:

Intel Xeon W3570 3847A696 (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=20800)
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 (http://i4memory.com/f22/ek-supreme-lt-feser-480-dfi-ut-x58-t3eh8-17002/)
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=18752)
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
3x Sapphire HD5870 CF (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=21041) flashed Asus bios 9.11 drivers
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

3x GPU = Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
2x GPU = WinXP Pro SP3 for all except Vantage benchmark

Low GT1 3D Vantage @850/1200 with 3x GPU = 24,397 vs 2x GPU = 25,115 (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870cf/3dv_850_1200_25115.png)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870tricf/3dv_850_1200_24397.png

Very easy breach of 32K @850/1200 for 3dmark06
3x GPU = 32,296 vs 2x GPU = 31,676

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870tricf/3dmark06_850_1200_32296.png

3Dmark05 - 3x GPU 40,214 vs 2x GPU 40,215 (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870cf/3dmark05_850_1200_40215.png) ?? Seems to be low GT1.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870tricf/3d05_850_1200_40214.png

3Dmark2003 - nice boost 3x GPU = 158,942 VS 2x GPU = 130,936

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/27x/12mem/1711025_89824_110faw31_1t_145_15_11151115_17_rfc48 0_200100ps/hd5870tricf/3d03_850_1200_158942.png

Monstru

12-08-2009, 09:36 AM

Nice stuff eva. You know, first time with TriSLI or Tri CFX is like another first time - the first thing you remember is "damn, this is too tight" :P

Splave

12-08-2009, 10:06 AM

http://i48.tinypic.com/24azvbr.jpg
2x5870 Vapor-X 1000/1300 1.187v

Viss

12-08-2009, 10:12 AM

Nice tests Eva. Here catalyst 9.10 is better for 3 cards & Vantage.

Gaul

12-08-2009, 08:49 PM

MAX on air 5870 @ 1025/1350

http://i47.tinypic.com/xf1992.jpg

rickxbox

12-09-2009, 10:45 AM

Did somebody already got his hands on the new VRM coolers from Thermalright the VRM-R3 and VRM-R4? I realy want to know how far the temps will drop. :) http://images.hardware.info/news/Thermalright_VRM-R3_R4.jpg

zalbard

12-09-2009, 01:13 PM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240336
A new BIOS version (035264) for 5870 with some bug fixes is up here.
But sadly, the unlocked version is corrupted (incorrectly unlocked I assume).
Is anyone willing to provide a correctly unlocked one please (this 035264 version, or a later one)? I'd greatly appreciate it.
Or teach me how to unlock it properly, and I will (not via RBE, obviously).
Thanks! :up:

kpablo

12-09-2009, 01:49 PM

You can unlock it via MSI Afterburner, modifying a hidden feature.

Barr3l Rid3r

12-09-2009, 03:48 PM

zalbard

12-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Nice bios, now I can run 900Mhz on my 5850 w/out a glitch and that's using CCC w/ stock voltage (1.17V)
The BIOS is nice, it also fixes some eyefinity glitches.
Just wish the unlocked version worked... I flashed the normal one, getting some reports about the unlocked version being broken, and RaBit says that CRC failes for that one, so I am waiting for someone to unlock it properly so I can OC with it as well.
Apparently unlocking is easy, just need some special ATI tool.
Check this thread (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=306272).

We used ATI official tool that provide to AIB to modifiy the BIOS setting and BIOS is digitally signed by ATI, sorry the tool can't be released publicly. And yes, we will apply it to MSI 5850 (also 2nd shippment of 5870, and future 5700 series).
by Garrett_Wu.
I don't wanna register there just to ask them to unlock this BIOS, I'm sure there are more people here who have it and are willing to unlock the BIOS for us.

HMB

12-11-2009, 08:40 AM

Nice bios, now I can run 900Mhz on my 5850 w/out a glitch and that's using CCC w/ stock voltage (1.17V) You flashed your 5850 with a 5870-bios? And it works?

Barr3l Rid3r

12-11-2009, 08:47 AM

You flashed your 5850 with a 5870-bios? And it works?

Yes it does flawlessly, better then original 5850, now it works perfect @ 900Mhz w/stock 5870 vgpu.

nikolas61

12-11-2009, 12:38 PM

MAX on air 5870 @ 1075/1290

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6998/capture51.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/capture51.jpg/)

-=[kz-0]=-

12-12-2009, 05:00 AM

MAX on air 5870 @ 1075/1290

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6998/capture51.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/capture51.jpg/)

how much voltage required to get to those clocks???wow thats insane..i saw a card pushed 1100 on the core but its WC..nice :clap:

nikolas61

12-12-2009, 06:42 AM

=-;4151203']how much voltage required to get to those clocks???wow thats insane..i saw a card pushed 1100 on the core but its WC..nice :clap:

voltage is 1.262V

:wave:

nikolas61

12-12-2009, 06:49 AM

all on air

i think that result is best momentarily on air :D

MAX on air 5970 @ 1000/1290

voltage is 1.262V

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8213/capture5ay.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/capture5ay.jpg/)

merc.man87

12-12-2009, 11:23 AM

MAX on air 5870 @ 1075/1290

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6998/capture51.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/capture51.jpg/)

Are you using the default bios for that? Or have you flashed to something else?

(I am a first time Extremesystems user!!!!)

nikolas61

12-12-2009, 11:38 AM

Are you using the default bios for that? Or have you flashed to something else?

(I am a first time Extremesystems user!!!!)

default bios...

zalbard

12-12-2009, 12:03 PM

Are you using the default bios for that? Or have you flashed to something else?

(I am a first time Extremesystems user!!!!)
:welcome: to XS then! :)

merc.man87

12-12-2009, 01:13 PM

Okay, so right now i am using afterburner 1.41 and i can clock it to about 1050 and 1200, and slide the voltage all the way across to max, now is it actually using that much voltage, or is it still stuck at the default voltage?

zalbard

12-12-2009, 01:23 PM

It wouldn't be stable at the default voltage, so pretty sure it uses that much.

merc.man87

12-12-2009, 02:58 PM

If i can get that high, then what would be the benefit of flashing to another bios, say msi or asus? Is there any? i have the xfx black edition .

jaredpace

12-12-2009, 04:56 PM

benefit would be having powerplay active and clocks & voltage lowering during 2d & idle.

dcl

12-12-2009, 06:01 PM

If i can get that high, then what would be the benefit of flashing to another bios, say msi or asus? Is there any? i have the xfx black edition .The black edition has higher clocks than stock correct?

Any chance the black edition BIOS is available online?

-=[kz-0]=-

12-13-2009, 05:17 AM

i'm sucking my thumb atm..this...errr i mean your clocks are as insane as what i think hell looks like..i'm capping off to 1000/1300 atm with 1.225v more than that even with a tad of voltage i can't push through..

merc.man87

12-13-2009, 03:00 PM

The black edition has higher clocks than stock correct?

Any chance the black edition BIOS is available online?

I haven't seen it, when i get a chance i suppose i could upload it it. Yea the stock clock is higher, what sucks is i see people with 1300 and 1350mhz on the memory, i wish i could get that high.

cirthix

12-13-2009, 05:54 PM

Do we have a working way to commit clocks, voltages, and fan control settings to bios? RBE doesn't seem to support 5850 yet.

900/1200 @ 1.15v seems about the max for my card. core can go higher, but needs way more voltage, so i'll just leave it at 900 for now :/

dcl

12-13-2009, 06:20 PM

I haven't seen it, when i get a chance i suppose i could upload it it. Yea the stock clock is higher, what sucks is i see people with 1300 and 1350mhz on the memory, i wish i could get that high.Cool. I'm interested because using standard o/c programs causes the default 2D clock to drop considerably, which in turn causes my second monitor to flicker badly. :o

nickless

12-14-2009, 01:39 AM

You can unlock it via MSI Afterburner, modifying a hidden feature.
Do you know how we can unlock voltage above 1.35v?

M_T_M

12-14-2009, 05:01 AM

How do you think the score tale 5870CF and wound on the 4.5Ghz CPU

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8264/3dmark06cf.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/3dmark06cf.jpg/)

rouvio

12-14-2009, 03:46 PM

:wiggle:

XFX HD5850
CPU i7 920 @ 4.2
GPU @ 950/1350 @ 1.2V
Mem @ 7-7-7-19-1T
Catalyst 9.11

To overclock the card without having to flash its Bios, I use two apps:
1) AMD GPU Tool for clocks & voltage.
2) MSI Afterburner for 100% fan, and fine tuning the Voltage.

Mark06
ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12694759)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4392/mark06.png

VANTAGE
ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1685560)
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3203/vantage.png

istvan.t

12-15-2009, 02:34 AM

HD5970 + LN2 = 3DMark Vantage Single-card WR

http://lab501.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=909

zalbard

12-15-2009, 02:37 AM

HD5970 + LN2 = 3DMark Vantage Single-card WR

http://lab501.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=909
Some great photos there! :D
And an amazing result ofc! :up:

Monstru

12-15-2009, 03:22 AM

Thx guys. For the english speaking population I also told the story here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=241058) at XS :)

Andrea deluxe

12-15-2009, 05:11 AM

anyone can give me the xfx 5870 xxx bios?

Viss

12-15-2009, 06:14 AM

Should be this (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?page=1&architecture=ATI&manufacturer=XFX&model=HD+5870&interface=&memSize=0) one.

zalbard

12-15-2009, 06:28 AM

You can unlock it via MSI Afterburner, modifying a hidden feature.
The problem is, I lose all powerplay features then...
And it's my 24/7 setup.
Bump for a properly unlocked version of this (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/61848/ATI.HD5870.1024.091112.html)! Anyone? :D

Gaul

12-15-2009, 07:31 AM

anyone can give me the xfx 5870 xxx bios?

any special xfx BIOS ?

Andrea deluxe

12-15-2009, 11:19 AM

xxx bios have 875 core and 1300 memory...... i suppose a little overvolt on the ram by default....

okorop

12-16-2009, 05:17 AM

I need to have the asus eah 5970 bios, someone could possibly share it's bios please?

xxx bios have 875 core and 1300 memory...... i suppose a little overvolt on the ram by default....

quoto

gerardfraser

12-16-2009, 06:30 AM

I need to have the asus eah 5970 bios, someone could possibly share it's bios please?

quoto

First post on first page.

okorop

12-16-2009, 06:45 AM

First post on first page.

Thank's but I need the .bin estension to flash the bios with atiflash in dos mode....

Viss

12-16-2009, 07:03 AM

Monstru

12-16-2009, 07:23 AM

That really looks good! I took Catalyst 9.12 down, once I get refilled with LN2 I'll hit the single-card Vantage once more time :D

CraptacularOne

12-16-2009, 10:56 AM

9.12 indeed look good I got over 2k more in Vantage with these while using the same clock speeds:

9.11 hot fix drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS at 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1679872

9.12 drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS @ 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1691926

HD5870's are using 1.312v for 1100Mhz core using MSI AB 1.5 beta 2 :up:

rouvio

12-16-2009, 12:27 PM

XFX HD5850
CPU @ 4.2
GPU @ 1000/1350 @ 1.22V
Catalyst 9.12
techPowerUp GPU-Z Validation u65q2 (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/u65q2/)

MARK06
ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12715937)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3189/mark06.jpg

VANTAGE (5th place in the world) :

ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1693408)
http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=931712
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2185/vantagee.jpg

msmeenge

12-16-2009, 12:50 PM

Here is my 1000 core / 1200 memory result :D! Thanks for the help ;)

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8448/24kvantage825sfurmark10.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/24kvantage825sfurmark10.jpg/)

nikolas61

12-16-2009, 02:50 PM

5970 max on air 990/1270

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1962/capture922.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/capture922.jpg/)

kpablo

12-16-2009, 04:20 PM

Almost 30k!!

9.12:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2016/vantage912.th.png (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/vantage912.png/)
P29210
GPU 30356
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1693630

I got this result with Beta 5:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9936/vantagebeta.th.png (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/vantagebeta.png/)
P27974
GPU 28680

From 9.11 to 9.12 in GPU score i got like 3k difference.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8840/95683275.th.png (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/95683275.png/)

yiannit

12-16-2009, 04:49 PM

9.12 5870x2 @ 1300/1000

vantage 29838

CraptacularOne

12-16-2009, 07:26 PM

Some single card love :up:

22k in Vantage......no PhysX ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1694332

Gaul

12-16-2009, 09:40 PM

Update.........

http://i50.tinypic.com/fdy4hj.jpg

zalbard

12-17-2009, 02:22 PM

Just a quick question.
If you edit the clocks for the 3D mode in BIOS using RBE, and these clocks are going to be ABOVE the CC lmits, then flash this BIOS, will it work fine?

msmeenge

12-17-2009, 02:22 PM

i5 750 @ 4,2
4gb ocz platium 2000mhz 9-9-9-31
2x HD 5850 in CF with MSI BIOS @ 975 / 1200, 1,225v

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3539/9751200stabiel25kvantag.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/9751200stabiel25kvantag.jpg/)

OC Nub

12-17-2009, 04:46 PM

9.12 seems to be an improvement. :up:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1469/912c.png (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/912c.png/) http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/912c.png/1/w1288.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img193/912c.png/1/)

kpablo

12-17-2009, 07:29 PM

So... ATI already released a Hotfix... :O

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICatalyst912Hotfix.aspx

LOL

jaredpace

12-17-2009, 09:23 PM

yah

9.12 is NOV 24th (8.861-091124a) 092500C (Sapphire) and 092499C (Official)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3221/912.png

and

9.12 hotfix is DEC 14th (8.682.2-091214a)

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j274/bul_photos/pc/5850/cat912hotfix.jpg?t=1261092953

Hotfix also has Eyefinity working on Crossfire

eva2000

12-17-2009, 10:35 PM

Catalyst 9.12 looks good :D

9.10:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/EVGA%20E762/VP23x2013xCFX1000-120035266.jpg

9.12:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/EVGA%20E762/VP23x2013xCFX9121000-120036344.jpg indeed it does

Still on leaked 9.12 8.14.10.0716 beta drivers. Tried higher cpu clock but W3570 seems to hang in CPU tests at 4723Mhz for Vantage but fine for 4753Mhz 3dmark05 at least (max 3dmark05 benched on W3570 HT On H20 is 4803Mhz).

My first bench with GPU clocked at 1000Mhz @1000/1275 :D

System:

Intel Xeon W3570 3847A696 (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=20800)
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=17002/)
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=18752)
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=19504/)
3x Sapphire HD5870 CF (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=21041) flashed Asus bios 9.12 (8.14.10.0716 (3x hd5870))
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

3D Vantage @1000/1275 = 36,703 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1696745
3DMark05 @1000/1275 = 42,414 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=5088120

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/29x/12mem/26uncore/162_971_89824_110faw31_1t_1525_1525_11_15_11_174_2 00ps100ps/5870tricf/814100716/3dv_1000_1275_36703_realtemp_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T6_WS_Revolution/results/w3570_3847a696/gskill/trident/16000/393837/29x/12mem/26uncore/164_983_89824_110faw31_1t_1525_1525_11_15_11_174_2 00ps100ps/5870tricf/814100716/3d05_1000_1275_42414_tn.png

Boulard83

12-18-2009, 07:02 AM

Clocked my HD5750 to 800/1200 without unlocked bios. Can i use the HD5770 bios for my HD 5750 ?

BTW im waiting my HD5850 but still .. im WAITING !

M_T_M

12-18-2009, 07:09 AM

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1760/3dmarkvantagecff.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/3dmarkvantagecff.jpg/)

chad

12-19-2009, 07:52 AM

Asus 5870 @ 1.25 volts
Stock cooler
9.12 Hotfix

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8752/48351541.png (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/48351541.png/)

rouvio

12-19-2009, 12:35 PM

Hey guys, how can i overclock both cores of the 5970?
I'm using MSI Afterburner or ATI GPU Tool. both only clock the first core.

Thanks :)

chad

12-19-2009, 07:37 PM

Hey guys, how can i overclock both cores of the 5970?
I'm using MSI Afterburner or ATI GPU Tool. both only clock the first core.

Thanks :)

Afterburner does clock both cores. Use GPU-Z to verify each gpu is overclocked.

rouvio

12-19-2009, 09:05 PM

thanks Chad :)

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CPU @ 4.2GHz
Mem: 7-7-7-19-1T
Catalyst 9.12Hotfix

3DMark Vantage

ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1704913)
[hwbot] result detail. - hwbot.org (http://hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=932773)

CPU @ 4.4GHz
GPU @ 1000/1220 @1.252V

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/923/10001220cpucovantage.jpg

3Dmark 06

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 950/1200

ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12742960)
[hwbot] result detail. - hwbot.org (http://hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=932767)

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/400/9501200mark06.jpg

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Stalker: Call of Pripyat

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 980/1200

2048x1152, DX11, ultra, HDAO=off
57.3/61.7/60.6/42.5

2048x1152, DX11, ultra, HDAO=ultra
44.7/56.1/53.9/45.8

-----------------------

Crysis

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 980/1200

1980x1020, v.high, DX10, AA=off
65.565FPS

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Streetfighter Benchmark

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 980/1200

2048x1152, ultra, AA=off
31,918 / 432.41FPS

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Unigine DX11 Heaven

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 980/1200

2048x1152, DX11, v.high, AA=off, tessellation=on
70.9FPS / 1725

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DIRT II

CPU @ 4.2GHz
GPU @ 980/1200

2048x1152, DX11, v.high, AA=off
86.2FPS

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kpablo

12-20-2009, 03:53 PM

This is my best shot with the Official 9.12 (not Sapphire one nor Hotfix one)... i can't go higher...

Intel i7 950@4.6GHz HT On, Evga X58 Classified E759, CFX HD5870 1000/1350. Catalyst 9.12, Windows 7 64bits 30456 / 28139 / P29842

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8876/vantage912con950.th.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/vantage912con950.png/)

Soooo close to 30k...

BTW... The 9.12 Hotfix, i have an issue... seems like my clock and temps in 2D mode of one of the vcard, the second one, just not work, it shows 0 in all (temp, gpu and mem clocks) only start detecting when change to 3D mode, then go back to 0 when return to 2D. weird :/ Same :banana::banana::banana::banana: happened to me with 9.11 Beta 5...

rouvio

12-20-2009, 06:20 PM

@kPablo great Vantage score :)

How safe do you say it will be to overvolt the 5970?
My environment is very cold mostly -1 to -10.

When I did 1000/1220 @ 1.25V at heavy load, temps of the GPU never got above 60c.

Thanks.

rouvio

12-20-2009, 06:21 PM

*honest to God I did not wrote the same thing.. twice! :shrug:
*double post - sorry*

kpablo

12-20-2009, 09:28 PM

Gaul

12-20-2009, 10:34 PM

MORE update.......

http://i50.tinypic.com/wv1vgm.jpg

ChaosAD

12-20-2009, 11:45 PM

Yesterday managed to break 20k vantage. But i ll post a screen when i find the max clocks for stock voltage :)

nickless

12-21-2009, 01:28 AM

Someone who can modify Asus Smart doctor to recognize HD5850 flashed with Asus HD5870 bios?!
When I flash my Sapphire 5850 with Asus 5850 bios everything is ok, but with Asus HD5870 bios Smart doctor gives me an error "Can't find video cards information" :mad:
I need more vcore above the MSI Afterburner 1.35v limit.
Now with Asus 5850 bios and 1.4v I can get 1123MHz GPU, but RAM works better with 5870 bios:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6468/vantage1123119821851.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/vantage1123119821851.jpg/)

kpablo

12-21-2009, 09:53 AM

What is the Xcode thing that Saphhire have in their DL page? The name is:
"Catalyst 9.12 Windows 7 Xcode (64-bit) for Windows 7 64-bit Edition" 29.16MB - Release date: December 21

Also they have a set of 9.12 dated December 21.

LedHed

12-21-2009, 02:08 PM

are the drivers improving Crossfire performance much? I know the first reports of 5870 Crossfire setups was disappointing.

yiannit

12-21-2009, 06:03 PM

are the drivers improving Crossfire performance much? I know the first reports of 5870 Crossfire setups was disappointing.

WITH 9.12 my xfire 5870s have improved

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1699858

8800's@over

12-21-2009, 07:08 PM

My XFX 5870 ( @ASUS BIOS), runing at 950 on GPU and 1250MHz on Memory, stock voltages.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8220/9501250.png (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/9501250.png/)

Stable in FurMark, and Games.

ChaosAD

12-22-2009, 12:30 AM

LOL at 82% fan speed. For benchmarks is fine but i cant even think about gaming with a Hoover next to my left ear. Max i got with 1.162v is 980/1300. I ll test 990 today.

Henry

12-22-2009, 09:38 AM

5850 CF, Catalyst 9.12.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2631/3dmvcf1075.jpg

rouvio

12-22-2009, 09:45 PM

ATi reference card HD5970
CPU @ 4.5
GPU @ 1000/1250 @1.3V
MEM: CL7 7-7-7-19 1T
Catalyst 9.12hotfix + Stream SDK 2.0

ORB - Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1714204)
[hwbot] result detail. - hwbot.org (http://hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=933840)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1407/10001250cpu45.jpg

msmeenge

12-23-2009, 07:36 AM

5850 CF, Catalyst 9.12.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2631/3dmvcf1075.jpg

Henry what voltage did you use for that result. And also, I am curious what voltage u need for 1000-1025 core / 1200-1250 memory on a CF setup.
I am having troubles getting 1000 / 1200 stable.

nickless

12-23-2009, 08:49 AM

And single HD5850:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5691/vantage2196611281203.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/vantage2196611281203.jpg/)

LedHed

12-23-2009, 10:34 AM

that is really impressive for a 5850, those are 295 scores.

justin.kerr

12-23-2009, 11:29 AM

That is very nice vantage scores.. my 4980's in crossfire only do 23K

Henry

12-23-2009, 12:08 PM

Henry what voltage did you use for that result. And also, I am curious what voltage u need for 1000-1025 core / 1200-1250 memory on a CF setup.
I am having troubles getting 1000 / 1200 stable.

1.237v for gaming @ 1000/1250. 1.35v for benchmark.

UPDATE :

- 5850 CF @ 1080/1300 :

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9746/10801300cf.jpg.

- 5850 CF @ 1080/1300 + GT240 DDR5 (as PhysX) :

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/150/cfgt240physx.jpg

dan7777

12-23-2009, 01:02 PM

Hi, folks ive just installed my sapphire 5850 im not at all familar with ati because ive always been with Nvidia anyone help me how do i turn my fans up on ati overdrive cuz its greyed out ? i think overclocking is not possible for me is it ? lol cheers in advance.

Darxide

12-23-2009, 01:13 PM

dan7777

12-23-2009, 01:51 PM

You need to unlock the little padlock icon.arrrr i see how do unlock my sapphire 5850 to asus bios can i do this with pendrive ? im not familar with dos commands anyone explain please. thank you.

snoro

12-23-2009, 06:37 PM

Strangly my xfx hd 5770 can bench and be completly stable for gaming at 1.25v 1070/1450 but if i lower the mem to 1300 and up the core more than 1070 with 1.35 it crash even in the vantage run. I think i need better cooling for my card before i try to go higher. Also my gpu score are about 10258 in vantage which it seem to me to be low to what i have seen from others.

@Dan7777 if you use msi afterburner you can go in the config file and change the value of enableunofficialoverclocking from 0 to 1 and it will let you go for more than the 960 core 1445 1175v limit of your bios and it with work with every card.

kpablo

12-23-2009, 11:07 PM

Anyone tried the driver in Sapphire webpage?
They have one released @ December 21... also an Xcode something with 30Mb... also from dec,21.

nickless

12-24-2009, 07:04 AM

arrrr i see how do unlock my sapphire 5850 to asus bios can i do this with pendrive ? im not familar with dos commands anyone explain please. thank you.
You have to make bootable usb in this way (http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm) and format the USB in FAT32, not in FAT. Also you have to select USB like first bootable device.
Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/34/8) is a guide how to flash ATI card in DOS. Download the latest atiflash (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html) and Asus 5850 bios (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/58225/Asus.HD5850.1024.090925.html) and rename it with short name, for example asus5850.bin (dos don't like long names of files ) put them both to pendrive, reboot and type command dir to see the files in pendrive and after that type the command for flashing: atiflash -f -p 0 asus5850.bin if you with single card. After flashing reboot and you have new bios, reinstall the drivers and go benching :).
Cheers!

Boulard83

12-24-2009, 03:52 PM

Ordered this card yesterday. Anyone disapointed with similar card ?

Brand ASUS
Model EAH5870/2DIS/1GD5/A

LedHed

12-24-2009, 04:13 PM

There hasn't really been any major problems with the 5000 Series that has been discovered yet, but with more time something may become apparent. The only thing even remotely wrong is the VRM bottleneck on the 5970, but that is only when OCing.

Boulard83

12-24-2009, 04:18 PM

Thx Led.

I think that Asus card come with an unlocked Bios already and they waranty the OC with the Volt range they give.

LedHed

12-24-2009, 04:21 PM

Thx Led.

I think that Asus card come with an unlocked Bios already and they waranty the OC with the Volt range they give.

according to your sig this is your 2nd 5870? That is going to be a GPU beast.

Boulard83

12-24-2009, 04:26 PM

NO i have a HD5750 since the HD58xx have been hard to buy ... was waiting an HD5850 from a local shop but i finnaly decided to buy this HD5870 from newegg ... Cancelled the one from the local shop.

But yes, ill CF some soon. Xmas is a good $$ time. We are alwais open where i work ( Cable technical service ). Its good $$$ to work these day ;)

LedHed

12-24-2009, 04:28 PM

ah I can't read :D

Boulard83

12-24-2009, 04:29 PM

Why dont you sell your GTX295 for an HD5970 ?

LedHed

12-24-2009, 04:31 PM

Why dont you sell your GTX295 for an HD5970 ?

waiting to see what the GT300 does, plus I can RMA for it after a few months of release :D

not to mention my CPU would most definitely bottleneck at 5970

Boulard83

12-24-2009, 04:32 PM

Youll wait few month ... Fermi isnt going to be out soon in the 2010. Only optimistic ppl spaek about Q1. Im pretty sure its going to be Q2.

LedHed

12-24-2009, 04:36 PM

Youll wait few month ... Fermi isnt going to be out soon in the 2010. Only optimistic ppl spaek about Q1. Im pretty sure its going to be Q2.

yea I agree it will either be late Q1 or early Q2, but I am in no rush to upgrade. There isn't one game out that the 295 can't run full maxed out at my native resolution (1920x1200).

snoro

12-24-2009, 09:14 PM

was having strange low score (about 10200 gpu score) with 1.25v 1050 core and 1350 mem and then i tried 1.282 v 1085 core and 1350mem and look what i have got as score in vantage

http://i49.tinypic.com/2a7ai4w.png

Boulard83

12-25-2009, 07:41 AM

yea I agree it will either be late Q1 or early Q2, but I am in no rush to upgrade. There isn't one game out that the 295 can't run full maxed out at my native resolution (1920x1200).

Your right. But the Xgeek in me want the newer cards ;)

trans am

12-25-2009, 08:40 PM

5850 CF, Catalyst 9.12.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2631/3dmvcf1075.jpg

very nice henry.
all of you kpablo, rouvio, eva.

i've been so busy lately with work i havent had time to really push this 5850 ive had. ive only used CCC OD for the pathetic 775/1125 max it allows. I think the last card I flashed was whan I had a 3870x2 and I don't remember how I went about it. Ive seen thread after thread about msi afterburner but I was waiting for a better solution.
today I came a across this thread about Ati releasing a bios for 5870 but maybe someone in here has successfully flashed their 5850 in this thread and I haven't seen it yet. Can anyone prove it works on a 5850?