*** Official Radeon HD5800 Series Overclocking Thread ***

[Mech0z]

http://www.techpowerup.com/rbe/

Revision history
v1.22
•Added clock tuning wizard.
•Changed fan controller bug workaround settings' description to point out what it does a little better.
•Improved program's startup routine.
•Fixed "GetClockPos reported 0"-error that came up on loading several 4xx0-BIOSes.
•Added preliminary support for Radeon 5870. Note that I'm still not sure about 5850's DeviceID and that signature saving and loading will most likely not work properly on 5xx0s with this version. Furthermore, VT1165 programming is not functioning yet.

[destr0yer]

Hi Destroyer, what score do u get with one card?

I did some more testing last night with the card and i'me seriously thinking that my Vantage score is low due to CPU bottleneck. I thought PII 940 @ 3.6 would be enough. :(

I've tried everything...that i could think if at least.

My GPU performance score is 12100 in vantage.

3Dmark vantage performance: ~14000
3Dmark 2006: 19200

cpu: 3800
nb: 2800
mem: 1600 8-8-8-22 1T
vga @ 900/1300 (max values in catalyst)
windows 7 x64 rtm
no tweaks, just normal settings


and yes, this cpu is limit the graphics, specialy in cpu score:(

other score:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12162278

cpu: 3400
nb: 2400
mem: 1333 7-7-7-20 1T
vga defaut

[jcool]

Thanks for the Asus bios flash tip, did that to my GB card and now I can OC past 900. It needs 1,275V for 1Ghz though so it's not a good one eh?

Anyway, I am getting crappy scores in Vantage as well. P18200 with the card at stock clocks, P20000 with the card at 1000/1300. CPU score is 36500 (Gulftown @ 4Ghz) so that kinda sucks :(

I compared my scores to Bills and I roughly got 20 FPS less than him in the two GPU tests, so something is off there. May be due to the OS? I'm on Vista 64, he's running Win 7 64 :shrug:

Oh well, I guess we need a new driver... like Bill already said we experienced severe FPS drops in Vantage with 2x 5870, we got a pretty crappy score there too.

Edit: 3D06 shows good performance, 26k at stock GPU. Would need more CPU mhz for the GPU tests ofc ;)

[Funky]

Well i tried:

-1504 bios for RIIE + i7 920
-Install Vista Ultimate 32-bit and Windows 7
-flash cards with asus bios
-changed CF bridge
-changed psu
-tried all availble drivers
-tried a few ram modules (corsair, cruical, take MS)


And its still the same crap... artefacts and decreased performance when running Crossfire...

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing unbelivable, after spending 700€ on this POS....:shoot:

ok this might not help, but I have had similar problems with crossfire on Vista 32 bit. Have you tried any 64bit operating system? 32bit would give me odd screen flickering / corruption while running 3d apps with crossfire enabled. Nothing like that on 64bit Windows 7. I didnt try to debug the issue on 32bit as I had it on my old hdd which i use for suicide bench runs :p

[H3llSp4wN]

does anyone tried to flash a 5850 with the 5870 bios?

would it help to unlock the other 160 shaders left?

sorry for my english tkx

[billdavis]

does anyone tried to flash a 5850 with the 5870 bios?

would it help to unlock the other 160 shaders left?

sorry for my english tkx

ummm i dont think it will work man...you will get a expensive brick

but it is up to you

[Rattle]

so far i am good at 950/1300 just using asus bios and 65% fan speed. pretty damn happy, i'll keep pushing see where she tops out at stock volts.

thanks Funky :up:

[barong]

sorry noob question, how do i raise gpu voltage on my 5850?
should i flash my bios to run over 775 / 1125?
please noob need guide here

[Shark-357]

ok this might not help, but I have had similar problems with crossfire on Vista 32 bit. Have you tried any 64bit operating system? 32bit would give me odd screen flickering / corruption while running 3d apps with crossfire enabled. Nothing like that on 64bit Windows 7. I didnt try to debug the issue on 32bit as I had it on my old hdd which i use for suicide bench runs :p


Well one of the cards finally give up and died... So i guess that was the problem im getting an replacement.

[flopper]

sorry noob question, how do i raise gpu voltage on my 5850?
should i flash my bios to run over 775 / 1125?
please noob need guide here

wait.
need patience.
no programs out yet nor bios for overclocking.

[Theta]

For the 5850, you need to use AMD GPU Clock Tool, and MSI Afterburner. There's nothing else out for it at the moment.

[x0m3g4x]

I can't wait for the ASUS bios for the 5850, hopefully my 5850 will get here monday, I am interested in some benches, after seeing how the phII is showing some odd numbers in vantage.

[Theta]

There's something else floating around out there that we don't have access to (GPUTool, perhaps). Frankly, the MSI Afterburner doesn't work reliably for the 5850 (regardless of BIOS) with regard to voltage increase. It gets reset by AMD GPU Tool, and even at random during the clock switch to 3D.

I guess we'll have to keep waiting - the only way some reviewers were able to hit 1000+ on the core with 1.3v was with tools that are not publicly available. That's my gut feeling, for now.

[dnottis]

There's something else floating around out there that we don't have access to (GPUTool, perhaps). Frankly, the MSI Afterburner doesn't work reliably for the 5850 (regardless of BIOS) with regard to voltage increase. It gets reset by AMD GPU Tool, and even at random during the clock switch to 3D.

I guess we'll have to keep waiting - the only way some reviewers were able to hit 1000+ on the core with 1.3v was with tools that are not publicly available. That's my gut feeling, for now.


My HD5870 is doing 1Ghz @ 1.162v, flashed to Asus bios and using MSI After Burner. But it's also water cooled.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4053267&postcount=208

[GLENBOY]

spot on theta, i have the 5850 and mine i had the voltage upped once that showed in the monitor window but that was it, all bioses which are publically available the 5 posted on techpowerup are all the same bios regardless of brand , and i tried one just to be sure so as you say we either need a newer bios like asus etc or gputool not the amd one but the techpowerup one, come on someone help us guys out:yepp:


There's something else floating around out there that we don't have access to (GPUTool, perhaps). Frankly, the MSI Afterburner doesn't work reliably for the 5850 (regardless of BIOS) with regard to voltage increase. It gets reset by AMD GPU Tool, and even at random during the clock switch to 3D.

I guess we'll have to keep waiting - the only way some reviewers were able to hit 1000+ on the core with 1.3v was with tools that are not publicly available. That's my gut feeling, for now.

[Oese]

My HD5870 is doing 1Ghz @ 1.162v, flashed to Asus bios and using MSI After Burner. But it's also water cooled.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4053267&postcount=208

thats extremely nice :)

that clocking up/down with msi tool is right, but it doesnt occur if u exit msi afterburner. i only use that tool together with unlocked ccc its very handy and reliable. AMD GPU clock tool is the thing that bugs around...

Guys, i experience some scary thing today. Running at 1gig/1300 @ 1,3v as all the time, gpu @ 46°C at full load and vrm @ 80°C, suddenly i noticed my radiators fans spinning up.

i had everest running in the back first time.. i just spotted vrm's 126°C and i manually shut down all 3d windows and restartet.. wonder what was happening. didnt look at gpu-z though or anything else, gpu-temp seemed normal if i remember right, but water temp was higher then normal and fans blowing, although vrm temp doesnt affect the water since they are passively cooled...

i suspect everest... although it was running for an hour before in the back and all was ok.. will see.....

[F.stop]

whats the heat output like with these cards, real world, 5870 vs 5850 any difference? whats it like comparing them to the 4870x2 space heater :)

[Oese]

space heating capabilities have vanished somewhat xD more like dual card rendering, single card heating xD

[F.stop]

woot to that

[Utnorris]

So I just want to make sure, but I can use RBE to flash my XFX card with the Asus BIOS, correct?

[dnottis]

So I just want to make sure, but I can use RBE to flash my XFX card with the Asus BIOS, correct?

RBE is to edit your bios. Just grab the Asus bios and flash it. I backed up my MSI bios with GPU-Z.

[Utnorris]

Will winflash work?

[dnottis]

Will winflash work?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=15022061

I used those files and followed those instructions.

[Utnorris]

Yeah I saw that, just use to winflash. Oh well, guess I will try it that way. Thanks for the quick response Dnottis.

[Chickenfeed]

whats the heat output like with these cards, real world, 5870 vs 5850 any difference? whats it like comparing them to the 4870x2 space heater :)

Given I came from using a 4870x2 for over a year, I can say its a improvement (it uses a tad more at load then the X2 did at idle :rofl:) My room doesn't get really hot anymore which is nice for a change. However it just started snowing here so...


I haven't done much more testing with the gpu clocks but I've found the card hard locks the machine when playing GTA4 regardless of voltage yet I was able to play Crysis no issues for a few hours straight (GTA 4 it would hard lock in 1-5 min ) Funny enough I've been playing a lot of Daiblo2 which is just ironic given its one of the oldest games I own and runs on a wrist watch :rolleyes: I honestly haven't found the gains overclocking noticeable enough to warrant the extra noise and heat to be honest but I will reserve judgment until drivers mature.

[Gaul]

tonight i'll flash ASUS bios...well i'll report LATER...

[Oese]

btw interesting finding:

setting ramspeed to 1320 results in 1318,8mhz AND LOWER VGPU NEEDED!

I can use 1000mhz gpu @ 1,25v now if ram is set to 1318,8 instead of 1300. I resolves this "stripy" screen thing or at least loweres vgpu needed to avoid stripey screens...

[Nizzen]

Is there a way to disable gpu recovery in catalyst 9.10 rc9 ?

[Gaul]

5870 @ 1000/1300

http://i36.tinypic.com/24oosvc.jpg

[flopper]

4ghz i7
win 7 64bit
5850, 860/1150.
P vantage.
http://www.svensknlp.nu/databilder/15k++.PNG

[Utnorris]

Flash was easy as pie. Thank you to the person that created this thread and the flashing guide at the beginning of the thread.

[Utnorris]

First overclock, I will play with it more tonight. Stock voltages.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6289/9291243overclock.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/9291243overclock.jpg/)

[flopper]

as the echo of the voice, join the dark side runs deep into the core to unlock the power,
Unwinder from Rt and msi afterburner solved the issue,
5850, 1ghz, 1.2v 4ghz i7 4 cores HT off.
http://www.svensknlp.nu/databilder/1ghz.PNG

[jeanjean15]

as the echo of the voice, join the dark side runs deep into the core to unlock the power,
Unwinder from Rt and msi afterburner solved the issue,
5850, 1ghz, 1.2v 4ghz i7 4 cores HT off.
http://www.svensknlp.nu/databilder/1ghz.PNG

Nice but can you say to us how doing that ? :)

With which tool ? I thought i would have needed a unlocked bios to do that ! :shrug:

[flopper]

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3305540#post3305540
add string to afterburner.[worked for my card]
load afterburner set volt, and then amd gpu tool to set clocks.
No bios flash.
Tried 3dmark06, but crashed at 1.2v, set it at 1.225 and then it run trough,
got 24266p
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12183310

[dnottis]

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3305540#post3305540
add string to afterburner.[worked for my card]
load afterburner set volt, and then amd gpu tool to set clocks.
No bios flash.
Tried 3dmark06, but crashed at 1.2v, set it at 1.225 and then it run trough,
got 24266p
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12183310

I had displaying flashing when I tried to OC just the core with the AMD GPU tool.

Flashing works perfectly for me

[jeanjean15]

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3305540#post3305540
add string to afterburner.[worked for my card]
load afterburner set volt, and then amd gpu tool to set clocks.
No bios flash.
Tried 3dmark06, but crashed at 1.2v, set it at 1.225 and then it run trough,
got 24266p
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12183310

Ok , thanks . It works very well but not in crossfire . In fact i can not use amdgputool to set clocks of the second gpu : instant freeze ( under vista 64 ) even if i increase by 1 mhz the second gpu ! :yawn2:

I wait impatiently an asus or unlocked bios .

[flopper]

Flashing works perfectly for me
yea when there is a bios for 5850...
u got 5870 totally different story as far ;)

[NanoBullet]

I guys i'm going to leave my score here!

System:
Amd Phenom II 940 @ 3612
nb@2.8
mem ddr 2 @ 1066
XFX 5870 @ stock clocks

Ati driver: downloaded the ati recomended driver from amd website.

I would like to know your opinion because from what i see comparing to
others users with phenoms my score looks to be a bit higher @ gpu score

in ati catalyst in performance/quality i left it on balanced (hope you guys did the same, so we can compare even systems)

cpu score: 12481
gpu score: 15918

link: http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=1486092&resultType=19

I left all settings in vantage that came by default!

I'm using fresh windows 7 rtm x64 install.

One question, @ gpuz 0.3.5 to all of you from what i've seen it appears
sub vendor ati, mine it already appears XFX Pine Group don't know why, i thought it would appear ati (since all for now are the same "reference")

[namegt]

1030 / 1300
i7-920 4G

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/attach/images/756267/458/142/008/IMG_5780.JPG
http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/attach/images/756267/458/142/008/1.jpg

[Henry]

5850 @ 1000/1300, Xeon W3520 @ 4.2 Ghz.

- 3DMark06 :

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7193/3dm0610001300.jpg


- 3DMark Vantage :

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7187/vantage10001300.jpg

[Utnorris]

Henry, are you having to put a lot of voltage through the GPU to hit those Mhz? That's pretty good to have a HD5850 that overclocks to what the HD5870 overclocks too, just wondering if you are putting insane amount of voltage through it and also what type of cooling.

[Henry]

Utnorris : vgpu 1.2v, stock cooling (fan 100%).

[Utnorris]

Utnorris : vgpu 1.2v, stock cooling (fan 100%).

Seriously? It takes me 1.3v to hit those on the HD5870. Don't make me regret my choice. :D

[Gaul]

Seriously? It takes me 1.3v to hit those on the HD5870. Don't make me regret my choice. :D

my 5870 need 1.25v to hit GPU 1000, here's the SS

http://i36.tinypic.com/33otul5.jpg

[chad]

5870 @ 1075/1200 1.29 volts

Q9550 @4.17

19019 GPU Score

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7729/31911428.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/31911428.jpg/)

[Utnorris]

Ok, so here are some benches at 1.3v and 4.6Ghz:

929/1243 3DMark06
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6289/9291243overclock.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/9291243overclock.jpg/)

929/1243 Vantage
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1016/929124346.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/929124346.jpg/)

957/1272 3DMark06
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8176/957127246.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/957127246.jpg/)

957/1272 Vantage
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5052/vantage957127246.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/vantage957127246.jpg/)

998/1298 3Dmark06
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/898/3dmark06998129846.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/3dmark06998129846.jpg/)

998/1298 Vantage
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6227/vantage998129846.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/vantage998129846.jpg/)

1021/1298 3DMark06
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6720/3dmark061021129846.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/3dmark061021129846.jpg/)

1021/1298 Vantage
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4694/vantage1021129846.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/vantage1021129846.jpg/)

Not bad, but there is more there, way more. :D

[wolvers69]

Sapphire HD5850 @1ghz (1.25v/41C max)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4531/58501ghzcrysishigh4xaa.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6580/cimg3690z.jpg

[F.stop]

At this stage can those that have had success sum up their preferred tools used for 5870/5850 and get jared to update the op maybe?
Im not sure whats getting the job done and whats not :shrug:

I got a sapphire 5870 after reading here so thx for the posters experience

[F.stop]

Given I came from using a 4870x2 for over a year, I can say its a improvement (it uses a tad more at load then the X2 did at idle :rofl:) My room doesn't get really hot anymore which is nice for a change. However it just started snowing here so...



I know exactly what you mean, great card for the time but i didnt like the heat output at all. atm id say 5870 is about half as hot which is a v.good thing

[Gamer]

3 Sapphire's here, bios updated without a hickup.
1000/1300 without artifacts,....

[Utnorris]

As far as tools go, once I flashed it to the Asus bios using the guide I have only been using the MSI Afterburner tool for overclocking and monitoring along with Everest for monitoring. I only went into the ATI interface initially to make sure it was taking the overclocks, but now I don't even do that.

[F.stop]

so your saying basically flash the asus bios and use MSI Afterburner.
no need for amd tool either then?

[Oese]

thats best. amd tool is awful.

[F.stop]

great card have to say :up:

[Gaul]

3 Sapphire's here, bios updated without a hickup.
1000/1300 without artifacts,....

which version ?

[Henry]

Seriously? It takes me 1.3v to hit those on the HD5870. Don't make me regret my choice. :D

1.2v vgpu for 1000/1300, 1.3v 1050/1300, 1.35v 1075/1300.

5850 @ 1075/1300 :

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4549/vantage10751300.jpg

[Utnorris]

That's just sick. :up: Awesome card. Still stock cooling? If you crank that CPU up you could probably hit 21k-22k. Makes me wonder if the HD5850 is nothing more than a HD5870 cut down slightly.

[F.stop]

im getting error 0fl01 with atiflash and that asus bios (Asus.HD5870.1024.090915.bin) on techpowerup
has it worked ok for you guys
cant think whats wrong with what im doing

[Utnorris]

Maybe, it's a .bin file not a .rom file. I used the one from the flashing guide and had no problem, but the Techpower up one with the .bin file wasn't even seen by ATIFlash.

[Robin BP]

Try to rename it to "rom" from Windows before you flash it.

[F.stop]

yeah your right, didnt realise bin wasnt acceptable on atiflash, wheres the rom file located?

[F.stop]

is changing the .bin to .rom do-able

[Gaul]

5870 @ 1025/1325

http://i35.tinypic.com/v7gm7b.jpg

[Utnorris]

yeah your right, didnt realise bin wasnt acceptable on atiflash, wheres the rom file located?

Look in this guide, he has it:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15021144&postcount=1

[F.stop]

Look in this guide, he has it:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15021144&postcount=1

thx, done :up:

[namegt]

HD5870 + GTX 275 PhysX

http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/original/1867022C4AD1EB96F5D358

http://cfile21.uf.tistory.com/original/1667022C4AD1EB9D01EFBB

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/attach/images/756267/913/183/008/2.jpg

http://www.playwares.com/xe/files/attach/images/756267/913/183/008/3.jpg

[Gaul]

@ name GT = cpu ? i7 @ 4.2 GH/4.4 GH ?? gtx 275 oc ? :up:

[namegt]

@ name GT = cpu ? i7 @ 4.2 GH/4.4 GH ?? gtx 275 oc ? :up:

4.4G / GTX 275 Normal
:D

[Patch]

That 5850 clock is amazing Henry.

Here's my single 5870 on water. (MCW60).

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/2845/4320ghzxeonsinglecard11.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2421/5870water.jpg

[Final8ty]

Kingpin & Shamino again
http://i.imagehost.org/0082/95k_entry_vantage.jpg

[Astennu]

Damm nice !!! almost 100k !!!!

Very Nice clocks !

[psyside]

Lol! Wtf Insane Stuff BTW whats with the GPU temp and fan ? 21% 127c ? Would love to see Crysis bench with that insane system !

[Final8ty]

Lol! Wtf Insane Stuff BTW whats with the GPU temp and fan ? 21% 127c ? Would love to see Crysis bench with that insane system !

Benched using LN so no fans & the temp sensor on the cards do not read negative temps.

[psyside]

Ah ok thanks ;) BTW anyone care to post some very high 4xAA 1920x1200 Crysis benchs with oc 5870/5870s? thanks in advance.

[Gaul]

Ah ok thanks ;) BTW anyone care to post some very high 4xAA 1920x1200 Crysis benchs with oc 5870/5870s? thanks in advance.

that easy...i can do that, give me 10 minutes

here we go, daily setting 5870 @ 950/1300

or u can go here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=236191

http://i38.tinypic.com/n3uogy.jpg

[psyside]

Ok man thanks :up: looks like no big difference to me, maybe with future drivers that will improve. Then again the single card performance is not bad just the crossfire scaling bothers me especially in Crysis (40% only from 2nd card,thats really low) :(

[ieatrawbacos]

I've found that on my Sapphire 5850, RTHDRIBL causes lockups/artifacting/instability at lower clock/higher voltages than any other tests I've tried (inlcuding FurMark).

For those with 1GHz+ GPU OCs, what voltage do you need for RTHDRIBL stability (full-screen/maximized, maximum details)?

[trt740]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121349 I hope so we can finally get a unlocked freaking bios MSI makes this great tool but makes it useless because of the limits on the bios WTF. It is a pain in the ass to use to tools.

[Utnorris]

Here is the BIOS for the HD5870 with the 1800/2600 limits. Seems a lot of folks are pushing the 1200/1400 Asus BIOS limits already on water.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3307817

[Oese]

I've found that on my Sapphire 5850, RTHDRIBL causes lockups/artifacting/instability at lower clock/higher voltages than any other tests I've tried (inlcuding FurMark).

For those with 1GHz+ GPU OCs, what voltage do you need for RTHDRIBL stability (full-screen/maximized, maximum details)?

no problem here 1000/1300 1,225v

[dnottis]

For those with 1GHz+ GPU OCs, what voltage do you need for RTHDRIBL stability (full-screen/maximized, maximum details)?

1.163v here, 1Ghz core, 1300 Mhz ram. MSI HD5870 flashed with ASUS bios and on water.

[Soultaker52]

Ah ok thanks ;) BTW anyone care to post some very high 4xAA 1920x1200 Crysis benchs with oc 5870/5870s? thanks in advance.
Here you go. This is with with adaptive AA on and 8x AF as well. Works pretty well if I must say so. 1000/1300 on the clocks.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2153/frost19x12.png


I've found that on my Sapphire 5850, RTHDRIBL causes lockups/artifacting/instability at lower clock/higher voltages than any other tests I've tried (inlcuding FurMark).

For those with 1GHz+ GPU OCs, what voltage do you need for RTHDRIBL stability (full-screen/maximized, maximum details)?

Mine does fine through there at even 1.2v for 1ghz. Oddly enough what made me go to 1.225v was the Stalker: CS benchmark. It would lockup at 1.2v, but went perfectly smooth at 1.225v. Might want to give it a go after you get RTHDRIBL stable.

[sukebe]

Here is the BIOS for the HD5870 with the 1800/2600 limits. Seems a lot of folks are pushing the 1200/1400 Asus BIOS limits already on water.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3307817

Anyone saved this msi bios can re-host it somewhere please? the official link is down...

[Soultaker52]

Anyone saved this msi bios can re-host it somewhere please? the official link is down...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZF7RUO8M
Enjoy.

Edit: I pulled this one right off my card, that's why it's a .bin instead of the original filename

[ieatrawbacos]

Mine does fine through there at even 1.2v for 1ghz. Oddly enough what made me go to 1.225v was the Stalker: CS benchmark. It would lockup at 1.2v, but went perfectly smooth at 1.225v. Might want to give it a go after you get RTHDRIBL stable.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to give it a shot.

[mR Yellow]

Ok, i've done some OC'ing last night.

GPU: 950mhz and Mem: 1300mhz @ Stock volts. I didn't go higher yet. Tested NFS: Shift last night and had nor errors or crashes.

BTW I'm looking at upgrading my CPU.
Which CPU would u guys recommend?

[Gaul]

@ soultaker = 5850 or 5870 ?
@ all = anyone flash msi BIOS ? please report here......:welcome:

how to used 5870 with riva tuner ? add string ?

[jfer]

Could somebody flash a 5870bios into a 5850?
1600SP unlocked?:clap:

[mR Yellow]

@ soultaker = 5850 or 5870 ?
@ all = anyone flash msi BIOS ? please report here......:welcome:

how to used 5870 with riva tuner ? add string ?

Don't think u can. We are all using the MSI Afterburner (which is built on rivatuner technology)

[Patch]

@ all = anyone flash msi BIOS ? please report here......:welcome:


Seems to work. Did it last night on a Sappire card.

Kudos to MSI for this. I've never purchased a MSI product, but I'll start doing so if their reps keep up this level of involvement.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7789/newccclimits.jpg

[Lightman]

For all those having low scores on theirs HD5870 - the problem is cards BIOS!

Fellow member AussieFX has sorted his problems after applying fixed BIOS from MSI.
I will try to get that BIOS posted here but I suspect that any other (up to date) BIOS will fix that issue!

[Oese]

low like what scores?

*wonder*

[zalbard]

Does the 1800/2600 BIOS have these performance fixes?

[CornerJack]

Results with Asus 5870 "voltage tweak" :)

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/asus58701B.jpg

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/asus58702B.jpg

i870 4GHz + Asus 5870 850/1200MHz

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p17701.jpg

i870 4GHz + Asus 5870 1051/1350MHz @1.31v
It's max air :)

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p20383.jpg

Impossible to use SmartDoctor... :confused:
I must use AfterBurner...
Soon watercooling and after... LN²...

[Gaul]

Seems to work. Did it last night on a Sappire card.

Kudos to MSI for this. I've never purchased a MSI product, but I'll start doing so if their reps keep up this level of involvement.

nice, well try to oc, then i'll compare with asus bios. :p:

or let me do...hmmmm

http://i33.tinypic.com/2cyc6p.jpg

nothing special here.....1000/1300 , FAN 45%

http://i37.tinypic.com/30bzonq.jpg

[punkrockpolak]

Have any other companies released updated BIOS for the 5870?

[Patch]

nice, well try to oc, then i'll compare with asus bios. :p:


Since I currently have one of my ASUS cards on water, I'll see if I have time to flash it to the MSI BIOS tonight and do a direct comparison on the same card.


Here's an hwbot link to what it does with the ASUS BIOS:

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=908535

[Lightman]

low like what scores?

*wonder*

Like ~11000 GPU score in Vantage ...

[Oese]

k..

[jaredpace]

Like ~11000 GPU score in Vantage ...

Yah i've seen quite a few with that problem 11-12k 3dv, while everyone else is 15-16k stock

[trt740]

no one has that card?

[mattlef]

Is there a 5850 bios available? Sapphire has a crazy limited bios.... doesnt oc worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:

[terrybogard]

I just bought a GTX275 like 5 days ago (always late to the Gfx party) :( I strongly think since I still have 10 more days on the Frys Electronics return policy...I should enforce it & snag one of the XFX 5870 cards :D Won't have to worry about Gfx for awhile & gives me something to play with.

[SimpleTECH]

Kind of disappointed with the ability to overclock and having more than one monitor present. If I increase even 1 MHz, I get flickering on both displays. However, if I disable my secondary display it's all good. :down:

Tested with all Catalyst drivers, even the 9.11 beta.

[Jakethesnake011]

New drivers out for the 58xx series here is the link for download http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATIRadeonHD5800seriesrecommendedgraphicsdriver.asp x

[Soultaker52]

@ soultaker = 5850 or 5870 ?
@ all = anyone flash msi BIOS ? please report here......:welcome:

how to used 5870 with riva tuner ? add string ?

5870, as in sig.

[Gaul]

while everyone else is 15-16k stock

no, min 16k for 5870 def....... :up:

[Zinthar]

Is there a 5850 bios available? Sapphire has a crazy limited bios.... doesnt oc worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Apparently no Asus 5850 bios available... yet. I'm sure it will be up soon -- the Asus version of the card didn't seem to get to market as fast as some of the others and is just now getting into the hands of consumers.

[mR Yellow]

Yah i've seen quite a few with that problem 11-12k 3dv, while everyone else is 15-16k stock

Problem with low score has been sorted out for me in Vantage with the news drivers.

I now get GPU 17400 in vantage (GPU 1000 | MEM 1300)


Link to drivers
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...Vista_Win7.exe

Try this if the top link doesn't work.
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...icsdriver.aspx

[psyside]

lol both links dont work :/

[mR Yellow]

lol both links dont work :/

Seems like they pulled them.

Here are newer drivers anyway. Cat 9.11 beta (Win7/Vista only)

http://download2-developer.amd.com/amd/Stream20Beta/ati-opencl-beta-driver-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7.zip

[Gaul]

I now get GPU 17400 in vantage (GPU 1000 | MEM 1300)

still too low :eek:, must around 18.000 on 5870 @ 1000/1300 :)

what CPU ?

[flopper]

17444p vantage 4ghz Ht off, 1ghz/1200 5850 win7 64bit.
9.11 ccc beta.

[mR Yellow]

still too low :eek:, must around 18.000 on 5870 @ 1000/1300 :)

what CPU ?

Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 with DDR2 800. This board of mine doesn't like a higher OC than that. :down:

[spajdr]

17444p vantage 4ghz Ht off, 1ghz/1200 5850 win7 64bit.
9.11 ccc beta.

Nice clocks, how much voltage you needed for 1Ghz on GPU? care to share HIS 5850 bios? :)

[Piotrsama]

Seems like they pulled them.

You copy-pasted them wrong. :p:
The links are cut at the middle.

[jaredpace]

A good post from storm41 @ guru3d showing the performance of his overclocked HD5850:

CPU:
Q6600@3,33Ghz

Risen
2048*1152 , all max

725/1000
45fps

775/1125
48fps

850/1175
52fps

900/1175
54fps

950/1175
56fps

1000/1175
59fps
___________________

3DMark Vantage GPU Score
725/1000 (stock)
13175

850/1200
14970

900/1200
15589

950/1200
16102

1000/1200
16490
__________________________

Crysis
2048*1152 8*aa , very high

idle 157/300
122w

725/1000 1,088v
29fps 270w

775/1125 1,088(ccc max)
31-32fps 280w

820/1200 1,088
33-34fps 285w

850/1220 1,1
34fps 294w

900/1220 1,2v
35fps 325w

950/1220 1,2v
36fps 330w

1000/1220 1,3v
37fps 370w
_______________


FarCry2
2048*1152,DX10,all max 8*aa

725/1000
Average Framerate: 44,68
Max. Framerate: 72,00
Min. Framerate: 27,68

850/1175
Average Framerate: 51,04
Max. Framerate: 92,66
Min. Framerate: 32,06
______________________

NFS Shift 2048*1152 ,all max , 8*aa

725/1000
77fps

850/1175
83fps

1000/1175
88fps
______________________________________________

Call of Juarez 2
2048*1152 , all max

725/1000
134fps

850/1175
155fps

1000/1175
168fps
____________________________

L4D
2048*1152 ,all max , 8*aa ,16*af

725/1000
150fps

850/1175
170fps
_________________________________

Trackmania Nations Forever
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa

725/1000
56fps

850/1175
62fps

1000/1175
65fps
__________________________________

RaceDriver Grid
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa

725/1000
118fps

850/1175
136fps

1000/1175
149fps
________________________

Resident Evil 5
20482048*1152 DX10, all max , 8*aa

725/1000
82fps

850/1175
92fps

1000/1175
100fps
__________________________________

BattleForge
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa

725/1000
27,4fps

800/1175
30,9fps

950/1175
33,4fps
_______________________

Anno 1404
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa

725/1000
34fps

850/1175
40fps

1000/1175
45fps
_______________________

Stalker
2048*1152 , alles max , 8*aa

725/1000
66fps

850/1175
77fps

1000/1175
85fps

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3307015&postcount=52

[flopper]

Nice clocks, how much voltage you needed for 1Ghz on GPU? care to share HIS 5850 bios? :)

I use 1.274v
havent tried higher.
using a combo of msi afterburner and amd gpu clock,
waiting for asus/msi unlocked bios.
think i sent the bios to techpowerup http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?page=1&architecture=&manufacturer=&model=HD+5850&interface=&memSize=0

[Monstru]

>20K in 3DMark Vantage with CPU @ 4GHz and HD 5870 with stock cooler? Yes mam :)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5585/1075mhz.th.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/i/1075mhz.jpg/)

[xXxDieselxXx]

Nice score :D

Wow you have the fan at 100% lol runs for earplugs

[trt740]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089

[Sgt.McRuff]

Anyone know a program to monitor vrm temps for 5850? Gpu-z only shows me the 3 core sensors. Would love to know vrm temps on stock b4 i switch core 2 water.

[xXxDieselxXx]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089

Grabbing popcorn :D

[Robilar]

I just picked up my second 5870. What I would like to see is a beta driver release for XP?

[Gaul]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089

wow.anyone dare to test ???

[Soultaker52]

I just picked up my second 5870. What I would like to see is a beta driver release for XP?

No use. XP is obsolete now. I suggest grabbing the RC of Win7 from somewhere if you REALLY hate Vista. That should hold ya off till the 22nd.

[Robilar]

I don't hate Vista. I just haven't seen any point in leaving XP. When a game finally arrives that forces me to upgrade to Vista or Win7 I will. Until then what is the point? I don't see any real benefit to being able to run Vantage...

In my opinion, an OS should be in place to run programs. I don't care about graphic tweaks, increased security (I have programs for that) or any of the other bloatware options included in Vista. Win7 is supposed to be an improved version of Vista but improved for other users.

On a side note, XP is far from obselete. The company I work for and many of the largest companies in North America still use it exclusively. Heck, most of the Canadian banks are still using Windows 2000.

[dnottis]

I don't hate Vista. I just haven't seen any point in leaving XP. When a game finally arrives that forces me to upgrade to Vista or Win7 I will. Until then what is the point? I don't see any real benefit to being able to run Vantage...

In my opinion, an OS should be in place to run programs. I don't care about graphic tweaks, increased security (I have programs for that) or any of the other bloatware options included in Vista. Win7 is supposed to be an improved version of Vista but improved for other users.

On a side note, XP is far from obselete. The company I work for and many of the largest companies in North America still use it exclusively. Heck, most of the Canadian banks are still using Windows 2000.

That doesn't make it right. Its time to drop XP. As a long time XP user and Vista hater, Windows 7 is a great upgrade. I love Windows 7 - but I hated Vista. The best reason you have to leave it - you bought a brand spanking new card that is being held back by your OS. Its time.

[jaredpace]

Hardwaredeluxx is testing that 5870 to 5850 modded bios, here is a screen. (1440 shaders at 850/1200 default clocks)

http://i38.tinypic.com/2pr9o49.jpg

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showthread.php?t=649717&page=23

[fornowagain]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089

Don't know about that, have a look at this German one (http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareluxx.de%2Fcom munity%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D649717%26page%3D23&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8), claims to have an unlocked 5870 bios on a 5850.

[Patch]

nice, well try to oc, then i'll compare with asus bios. :p:
[/IMG]

The 1800/2600 BIOS seems to do OK with clocking compared to the ASUS BIOS, but there is a weird stutter on the desktop.

Vantage bench (CPU at stock with speedstep on) is pretty similar to what I got with ASUS BIOS.

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3149/msibiosonasuscard1115an.jpg


I haven't decided if I like it yet.

On another note, anyone found drivers that allow 5870 quadfire yet?

I used yesterday's CCC release and it will briefly enable all 4 cards, but always disables 3 of them after 5-7 seconds. Multiple reboots and several fresh installs gave the same results. Trifire works.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7140/quad5870.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3170/quad2.jpg

[Rattle]

Seems like they pulled them.

Here are newer drivers anyway. Cat 9.11 beta (Win7/Vista only)

http://download2-developer.amd.com/amd/Stream20Beta/ati-opencl-beta-driver-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7.zip

anyone else have problems with these drivers? I tried them and got weird 2d text and blurr, even in 3d games everything looked ok but even text in games was all blurred and weird...

[terrybogard]

Grabbing popcorn :D

Did someone flash the 5870 bios over a 5850 card & it killed it? :shocked:

Btw; I hope to learning more from you all & getting questions as I've just picked up my own XFX 5870 :up:

http://hdimage.org/images/ahnwlylctdl0b6o0vfff.jpg

Btw; I used search & google for switching from ATi - Nvidia & vice versa. I believe the path I'm taking is control panel > uninstall > driver cleaner > install card > Flash Asus Bios > DL Msi AfterBurner > Start Oc'ing :confused:

[mR Yellow]

Btw; I used search & google for switching from ATi - Nvidia & vice versa. I believe the path I'm taking is control panel > uninstall > driver cleaner > install card > Flash Asus Bios > DL Msi AfterBurner > Start Oc'ing :confused:

Correct. :)

[ieatrawbacos]

Anyone know a program to monitor vrm temps for 5850? Gpu-z only shows me the 3 core sensors. Would love to know vrm temps on stock b4 i switch core 2 water.

AMD GPU Clock Tool will show the VRM temps of the 5850.

[Sgt.McRuff]

AMD GPU Clock Tool will show the VRM temps of the 5850.

TY
Well erm, huh. So around 48-51c for them with voltage at 1.175.

I have a interesting limit. How to explain? So if i use 1.2 volts using msi afterburner after about 10-15 mins at STOCK SPEEDS it will artifact(using ati tool). Now its not temps, its under water for the core and its around 36c.
If I do 840mhz with 1.2v it will artifact almost instantly. setting it to 1.23 will cause it to artifact with no load. yet 1.175v i can hit OC of 975c (furmark) or 970c (atitool)

The power parts of my 5850 is a lemon? or faulty? :shrug:


My OC: 1300mem
1.088v 840c air and 860c water
1.15v 940c air and 955c water
1.175v 960c air and 970c water

[flopper]

TY
Well erm, huh. So around 48-51c for them with voltage at 1.175.

I have a interesting limit. How to explain? So if i use 1.2 volts using msi afterburner after about 10-15 mins at STOCK SPEEDS it will artifact(using ati tool). Now its not temps, its under water for the core and its around 36c.
If I do 840mhz with 1.2v it will artifact almost instantly. setting it to 1.23 will cause it to artifact with no load. yet 1.175v i can hit OC of 975c (furmark) or 970c (atitool)

The power parts of my 5850 is a lemon? or faulty? :shrug:


My OC: 1300mem
1.088v 840c air and 860c water
1.15v 940c air and 955c water
1.175v 960c air and 970c water

the 40nm process has leakage, and some gpu works better under lower voltage especialy under water.
that is one explantion.

[ieatrawbacos]

What kind of cooling is on the memory/VRMs? Have you tried a lower memory clock? Is the GPU die making good contact with your water block?

I'm on the stock cooler, and my clocks continue to scale all the way to 1.3v+. Most other people are reporting similar thing. Cyprus doesn't do better with lower volts.

[Monstru]

Patch - 8.66 RC6 (the original beta driver) works with 4 cards. I tested them here (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/hd-5870-performanta-in-configuratii-multi-card-pe-x58-si-p55).

Regarding that 5850 with 5870 modded bios, from what I know the shaders are hard locked, so no chance in unlocking them with a bios.

[bloodmaster]

MSI 5850 unlock bios (core/mem = 1500/2250)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089

[fornowagain]

http://forums.guru3d.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3311356


Sorry for waiting, we finally finished 5850 unlock BIOS with higher CCC overclocking limit.

you can download here:http://cid-26aaa81850481d85.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%e5%85%ac%e9%96%8b/MSI%5E_R5850%5E_unlock.A11

[terrybogard]

Finally heading to bed; Stopped testing @ 975/1275 @ 40% Fan Speed - 75C avg. temps. Just love this card, very glad I got the purchase. More to come later ...

[jfer]

Oh man! Im trying out the 5850! Right with GPU Tool:
core: 875
Mem:1250

It beats my prior 4890 crossfire setup! Im getting upper values in every game comparing it to 5870!:rofl:
Im gonna put it on water next week....:up:

[flopper]

msi unlocked bios 5850.
flashed and run 3dmark06, 4.2ghz i7 and broke 25k
1020/1200.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12220598
http://www.svensknlp.nu/databilder/msi.PNG

edit: powerplay is acting up to for 2d, as I got 2 screens i get some flashing textures in 2d setttings.

[jeanjean15]

is anybody owning the asus 5850 can tell me if he can increase gpu voltage with msi afterburner ?

Thanks.

[Sgt.McRuff]

the 40nm process has leakage, and some gpu works better under lower voltage especialy under water.
that is one explantion.

Im going to keep telling myself that.:rofl: I can live with leakage, but not thinking something on my card is broken.

What kind of cooling is on the memory/VRMs? Have you tried a lower memory clock? Is the GPU die making good contact with your water block?

I'm on the stock cooler, and my clocks continue to scale all the way to 1.3v+. Most other people are reporting similar thing. Cyprus doesn't do better with lower volts.
Stock plate + some small heat sinks on the heat pipe for vrms, they seem much cooler than my 4890 which had same setup, from touch to temp software. Memory was test at stock speeds 1000 for voltage stuff, even though its good to 1300. I did a test contact with swiftech mcw60, contact was great. But of course after realizing the problem I took mcw60 off and checked, was perfect. A nice thin white transparent layer of Ceramique.
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo248/SgtMcRuff/IMG_0057-1.jpg
BTW I took off the small heat sinks on pulse chips b4 putting it in.

[jfer]

Oh yeah!:p:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6284/crysisbench10005000.jpg

[trt740]

here it is boys

[jaredpace]

MSI 5850 unlock bios (core/mem = 1500/2250)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089


http://forums.guru3d.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3311356


here it is boys

With this bios, you can use afterburner for everything on 5850; with asus bios you can use afterburner for everything on 5870.
:up:

Unwinder made a note at guru3d about using self-modded bioses that aren't directly from a manufacturer (stuff you edited in RBE). He says "Reference design board and original AMD / NVIDIA VGA BIOS is required for proper voltage control on these cards. Voltage control may work improperly if voltage control circuit on the PCB or voltage table in BIOS is modified by manufacturer or by user"

Using this 5850 bios or the ASUS 5870 bios will be fine, they have hash + signature & standard I2c dump. Little overboard on the 5850 slider limits though... lol.

[jeanjean15]

With this bios, you can use afterburner for everything on 5850; with asus bios you can use afterburner for everything on 5870.
:up:




Thanks but i wanted to know if it was possible to use Asus 5850 bios with afterburner to increase voltage or not ? In fact i read that some one couldn't ?
Could you confirm ? I want to buy an 5850 asus model but before want to be sure i will be able to use afterburner because the asus soft ( smartdoctor ) do not function !!

[barong]

here it is boys

is this bios works with my 5850 powercolor?
also im noob for flashing vga bios, can anyone give me guide how to flash ati bios under win 7?

[jaredpace]

jeanjean15, there was a problem with some 5850's and Afterburner 1.1, but that has been fixed in version 1.20. There is full control of voltage,fan,clocks and all.

[Monstru]

Guys, the ideea about 5850 and 5870 is pretty simple:

-with normal BIOS, each card can be overclocked with MSi Afterburner 1.2.0 within CCC limits.
-with normal BIOS, each card can be overvolted with MSI Afterburner 1.2.0
-with modded BIOS, there are no CCC limits anymore.


The good part is that you can use your normal bios and MSI Afterburner for fan and voltage settings, and also use AMD GPU Clock Tool to adjust the clocks beyond the CCC limits.
So, you either keep your bios and use MSI AB 1.2.0 for fan and voltage settings and AMG GCT for clocks, or flash the MSI bios and just use MSI ABT 1.2.0 for all. The choice is yours.

[flopper]

is this bios works with my 5850 powercolor?
also im noob for flashing vga bios, can anyone give me guide how to flash ati bios under win 7?

must use dos.
meaning, usb key, linux boot diske tc..and then atiflash with stuff.
several guides out there.

[spajdr]

barong : check first post in this thread, all is there.

[Lightman]

Finally I had time to properly test my card up to 1GHz+ on core.

Results are promising!

Stock volts (1.125V part) card will do up to 900MHz on anything (even Furemark!) but Crysis (less than 60s to crash)!
For Crysis V.High max. clock on stock voltage is 870MHz :p:
Moving to 1.165V looks to make no difference ....
1.2V and welcome to 1GHz+ for anything but Crysis (this time it's bench stable, but not game stable - 15min+)!
1.225V and all is good even after 2h of cutting palm trees :D
1050MHz core not stable in Crysis (less than 3 minutes to crash).

What is good about those clocks is that all tests were done in closed computer case with GFX card fan left at Auto setting - working GPU temperature 80C-85C!

Loving this card so far!

PS. Memory is crappy on mine - 1270MHz max. stable on longer runs, 1300MHz for benching, but just!

[jaredpace]

1.225V and all is good even after 2h of cutting palm trees

BAHAHAHah~!!!
:rofl:

[Henry]

5850 @ 1075/1300, W3520 @ 4.45 Ghz.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2236/vantage.jpg

[Monstru]

Nice one Henry! What cooling and what volts on that HD5850?


thanks monstru thanks for posting up now give it some extra volts and high fan speed and lets see what these babies can do

Well, almost 2 weeks later, here it is. Did you like the 1075MHz GPU / 20K Vantage score with HD5870 and i7 @ 4GHz? Well, what about 1030/1300 MHz, 19K HD5850 on air, with stock cooling, with the same 4GHz i7? My job on air is done. Netx time - some LN2 action :)

http://lab501.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2602&d=1255648381

[terrybogard]

Hit a huge wall @ 975-980/1275mem on stock voltage, but now I'm up to 1225v which seems a good spot for others, chugging along @ 990/1275. I am trying for the 1000/1300 stable just so I can have the screen shot.

Congrats to those that finally have a 5850 bios to play with; looked like the world was leaving most of you out of the party, loving the clocks alot of you are pushing out on them.

I hit 1000/1300 with 1.250v & 75% fan speed. I took a screen shot; I just need to get gpu-z figured out. I'm having newb issues with doing the validation or whatever...Google a guide on how to get it to show the current core clock settings & will post back.

[Henry]

Nice one Henry! What cooling and what volts on that HD5850?

Stock HSF (fan 100%), 1.35v for 1075. Thx..

[xXxDieselxXx]

Just did my 5850 ... These cards are sweet :D

Before Unlock
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7996/final3dmark.jpg

After Unlock :banana:
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4268/5850unlocked.jpg

[Sh1tyMcGee]

OK, so which bios do i need for my XFX 5870 if i want to go faster than 900mhz? and why isnt anyone with a 5870 running 1300mhz memory? is there something wrong with running 1300Mmhz? thanks.

[xXxDieselxXx]

OK, so which bios do i need for my XFX 5870 if i want to go faster than 900mhz? and why isnt anyone with a 5870 running 1300mhz memory? is there something wrong with running 1300Mmhz? thanks.

This is what I used but with the MSI Bios instead of the Asus one. I wanted to make sure I had compatibility with Afterburner.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15021144&postcount=1

MSI Bios:

http://cid-26aaa81850481d85.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%e5%85%ac%e9%96%8b/MSI%5E_R5850%5E_unlock.A11

And Yes, you can clock it at 1300 just watch for temps and check stability.

[mR Yellow]

OK, so which bios do i need for my XFX 5870 if i want to go faster than 900mhz? and why isnt anyone with a 5870 running 1300mhz memory? is there something wrong with running 1300Mmhz? thanks.

I've seen many ppl running mem at 1300mhz. I set mine to 1300mhz, no probs.
But i don't think the frames gains aren't that high with mem oc.

[Monstru]

Did I mentin I did mine with the normal ATI bios? :D

Henry - nice scaling up to 1.35v. You either have a very good board, or good amient temps. In either cases, great stuff.

[largon]

Am I imagining or do people (dnottis (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4049981&postcount=151), Patch (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4059703&postcount=320), for example) run their cards with no memory VRM cooling of any kind, and with such non-existant GPU VRM sinks? And for some reason these guys also have sinked the respective inductors that actually need no cooling at all.

[R_1]

What I found after disassembling the stock cooler is that RAM VRM part (on HD5870) is not making contact with thermo foam above it and therefore is not active cooled by the top alu plate. At average temps are +10 degrees Celsius greater, than GPU VRM (readings from GPU-Z log file). What it needs is thicker thermo foam.

[largon]

R_1,
Can you confirm whether the GPU cooling element can or cannot be removed from the frontplate? Is it permanently attached?

[pr@$r1g]

Just did my 5850 ... These cards are sweet :D

Before Unlock
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7996/final3dmark.jpg

After Unlock :banana:
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4268/5850unlocked.jpg

CAN u tell what is the process of unclocking this

[xXxDieselxXx]

This is the guide I followed, except instead of using the Asus bios I used the MSI one to ensure compatibility with MSI Afterburner:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15021144&postcount=1

Special Thanks to Overclockers UK

Here is the ASUS BIOS
http://rapidshare.com/files/288531683/Asus.rom

Here is the MSI one I used:
http://cid-26aaa81850481d85.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%e5%85%ac%e9%96%8b/MSI%5E_R5850%5E_unlock.A11

Here's the latest ATIflash

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

Here's the tool to format a USB flash drive
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18807&d=1222699942

Here's the bootfiles I used
http://www.4shared.com/file/43544416/39060a9e/HPUSBFW_BOOTFILES.html?s=1 (Extract them, then make a folder called BOOTFILES, stick the extracted files into the folder)


The Steps

Note: Make a backup of your original BIOS using GP-Z


Plug in the USB drive that you want to use.

Install and run HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool.
Select the USB Drive. In the "File system" drop down box, pick FAT32. Tick "Quick Format". Tick "Create a DOS startup disk, using DOS system files located at and click the "..." and direct it to the BOOTFILES folder you made.
Click start.

Once that's done, copy the ATI Flash and ASUS BIOS into the USB drive.

Restart your PC and boot from the USB Flash drive.

Once it's booted in type
atiflash -f -p 0 asus.rom (If you're not using crossfire)


I used the MSI one so I went: atiflash -f -p 0 MSI_R5850_unlock.A11

DOS did not like the long name so I renamed the file to something short like MSI.A11

Once the flashing is done will ask you for reboot. When Windows boot you will see all your resolution lost and Windows will detect a new video card. You will have to re-install the Ati drivers again to take effect.

If you're using crossfire, I'd suggest you flash each card individually (For people like Virus). More so that I don't know how to flash more than one card at once



Good luck

[spajdr]

Think that for second card when having crossfire you use -p 1 instead of -p 0 parameter.

[Jakethesnake011]

Can someone please PM with the sapphire BIOS for the 5870, the default ones so I have them on file in case I need to reflash, going to try and flash now, but GPU-z wont let me save the BIOS... i dont know why.

Flahs went a okay no hip ups.

[gabe]

I also posted this in the liquid cooling section, (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4066912&postcount=210)

But here is what my sample board did using our Komodo Waterblock - Note that the temps are at full load using Furmark, immediately after I ran Vantage. CPU is 920 @ 4.3Ghz Apogee XT cooled.

http://www.swiftnets.com/ASSETS/IMAGES/PRODUCTS/KOMODO/SCREENSHOT-VANTAGE-KOMODO5800-5870@1060-1300.png

[Gaul]

@ gabe = that weird, mine 5870 @ 1050/1325 touch 19K with HSF REF, yours 1060/1300 under 19K ? did i miss something ?

[alex_tpc]

1x5870@1047/1306 as renderer, half a gtx295@760/1225/1523sli-disabled as physx, both on air.
i7 975 on water

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp121/alex_tpc/3dmv_23129_1x5870_1047x1306_4522-1.jpg

I know hwbot doesn't accept pure nvidia gpus with physx enabled but will it take vantage scores where ATI is the main gpu and nvidia is the physx card? hmmmm....

3dm06 score single asus 5870:
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp121/alex_tpc/3dm06_28776_1x5870_4522sm.jpg

[barong]

This is the guide I followed, except instead of using the Asus bios I used the MSI one to ensure compatibility with MSI Afterburner:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15021144&postcount=1

Special Thanks to Overclockers UK

Here is the ASUS BIOS
http://rapidshare.com/files/288531683/Asus.rom

Here is the MSI one I used:
http://cid-26aaa81850481d85.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%e5%85%ac%e9%96%8b/MSI%5E_R5850%5E_unlock.A11

Here's the latest ATIflash

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

Here's the tool to format a USB flash drive
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18807&d=1222699942

Here's the bootfiles I used
http://www.4shared.com/file/43544416/39060a9e/HPUSBFW_BOOTFILES.html?s=1 (Extract them, then make a folder called BOOTFILES, stick the extracted files into the folder)


The Steps

Note: Make a backup of your original BIOS using GP-Z


Plug in the USB drive that you want to use.

Install and run HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool.
Select the USB Drive. In the "File system" drop down box, pick FAT32. Tick "Quick Format". Tick "Create a DOS startup disk, using DOS system files located at and click the "..." and direct it to the BOOTFILES folder you made.
Click start.

Once that's done, copy the ATI Flash and ASUS BIOS into the USB drive.

Restart your PC and boot from the USB Flash drive.

Once it's booted in type
atiflash -f -p 0 asus.rom (If you're not using crossfire)


I used the MSI one so I went: atiflash -f -p 0 MSI_R5850_unlock.A11

DOS did not like the long name so I renamed the file to something short like MSI.A11

Once the flashing is done will ask you for reboot. When Windows boot you will see all your resolution lost and Windows will detect a new video card. You will have to re-install the Ati drivers again to take effect.

If you're using crossfire, I'd suggest you flash each card individually (For people like Virus). More so that I don't know how to flash more than one card at once



Good luck

just finish flash my powercolor with msi bios , its work great with the afterbuner
Thank u so much :D

[Monstru]

I know hwbot doesn't accept pure nvidia gpus with physx enabled but will it take vantage scores where ATI is the main gpu and nvidia is the physx card? hmmmm....

No, no kind of PhysX is allowed on HWBot :)

[alex_tpc]

No, no kind of PhysX is allowed on HWBot :)

didn't think so either but just double-checking :p:

anyways, a bit more push on 3dm06: got it to go over 29K with single asus 5870 on air
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp121/alex_tpc/3dm06_29267_1x5870_4600_1045x130-1.jpg

[Monstru]

That is a very good result. If you could push juts a little bit more on the GPU clocks, somewhere close to 1100, and push 50-100MHz on the CPU, you could get 30k without sub-zero cooling, which is...cool. Maybe try 100-150MHz more on the CPU with HT Off and see what you get in terms of performance in 2k6 ;)

[gabe]

@ gabe = that weird, mine 5870 @ 1050/1325 touch 19K with HSF REF, yours 1060/1300 under 19K ? did i miss something ?

Maybe this particular card memory setting is too high? That would drop the score. I haven't really played with the memory yet; I just picked what seemed to be the sweet spot among users here. At this point, I was only trying to find the Max GPU frequency @ max voltage in order to observe the resulting ASIC and VDDC temps. I locked up in vantage at 1070, so dropped down 10 points, and found what appears to be stable setting for the GPU.

[Chri$ch]

single HD5850 @ stock air, Gulftown @ water, Windows 7 x64

http://www.abload.de/img/hd5850-976e1.png

[pr@$r1g]

^^^ wondraful nothing better than this holding a gulftown :D

I want one Pl..............

[Gaul]

Maybe this particular card memory setting is too high? That would drop the score. I haven't really played with the memory yet; I just picked what seemed to be the sweet spot among users here. At this point, I was only trying to find the Max GPU frequency @ max voltage in order to observe the resulting ASIC and VDDC temps. I locked up in vantage at 1070, so dropped down 10 points, and found what appears to be stable setting for the GPU.

hmm ok no problem at all....thanx

RE5 , e84 @ 4.2 GH + 5870 @ 1000/1350

1440x900, DX 10, 8xAA, ALL HIGHEST

http://i38.tinypic.com/2hhnfb7.jpg

[R3DCrocker1]

testing the asus bios under dice and it wasnt stable at all over 1100 so going back to the MSI one
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm450/REDCrocker/signature2.jpg

[jeanjean15]

What is the difference between the bios of MSI and ASUS ?

[Gaul]

@ R3d = high score on 2003, mine only 93K

e84 @ 4.6 GH on air + 5870 @ 1000/1250

http://i38.tinypic.com/2iu2p76.jpg

[Jakethesnake011]

I think the MSi BIOS let you go farther with the clock limts and they work 100% fine with the MSI afterburner utility, the ASUS BIOS let you go to 1200mhz core,a nd 1400mhz memory clock speeds, I flashed to ASUS and having no problem witht eh MSI tool. I like the BIOS and the instruction to flash are very good, and easy to do.

[purecain]

Vantage performance preset

Graphics Score 18105 - 1000mhzCore@1.27vgpu / 1250mhzMemory http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1511398

the gddr5 on my card is crap... pretty dissapointed as it refuses to clock above its rated 1250mhz....

meh....

edit... oc Q9550 to 4ghz gave P17584 3DMarks / gpu had no gains 18084 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1513157

[xXxDieselxXx]

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7096/final9501170with12volts.jpg

[Andrea deluxe]

one question....

whitout increase the gpu voltage whath frequency can get?

[R3DCrocker1]

i can get 960 core at stcok voltage on the normal Sapphire bios but that susing a combo of afterburner and AMD GPU tool.

[xXxDieselxXx]

Getting nice temps at this settings (950x1170 1.2v) :D

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6203/furmarkfinal.jpg

[kite7]

xXxDieselxXx, what cooling are you using for your 5850? I find it impossible to only get around 60c overclocked at 950mhz with the fan speed only at 27% with the stock cooler

[Jakethesnake011]

Whats max safe voltage for the 5870?

[gergregg]

Asus 5850

1010 Core 1250 Mem 1.225v stock cooling

Vantage 17739

[nickless]

Asus 5850

1010 Core 1250 Mem 1.225v stock cooling

Vantage 17739
Can you share your bios, please!

[ieatrawbacos]

I just picked up my second 5870. What I would like to see is a beta driver release for XP?

The XP (and XP x64) betas were released the same time as the Vista/7 betas, it's just that no one has bothered to upload them anywhere.

Just register on the AMD developer site and download them.

[nickless]

The XP (and XP x64) betas were released the same time as the Vista/7 betas, it's just that no one has bothered to upload them anywhere.

Just register on the AMD developer site and download them.
Catalyst 9.10 (v8.660) - Vista/7 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLASCEWU) | XP (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C1Q00V5M)

[ieatrawbacos]

The 9.11 betas have been out for a week.

http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDKBetaProgram/Pages/default.aspx

[bhavv]

I got some results at last for my Xfire 5770s :)

The CPU is running at 3780 Mhz with turboboost, and the vga ram is at stock speed of 1200 Mhz in each run.

GPU @ 850 Mhz, P14690 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515397)

GPU @ 900 Mhz, P15578 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515434)

GPU @ 960 Mhz, P16124 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515465)

They seem to respond really well to GPU increases, just hope I can unlock the upper limit to 1 Ghz and up soon. I'll be increasing the ram speed next.


Keeping the GPU at 960 Mhz, and increasing the ram:

Ram @ 1250 Mhz, P16797 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515496)

Ram @ 1300 Mhz, P17020 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515511)

Performance decrease at 1350 Mhz ram - P16773 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515522) (I tried two runs, similar result both times).

Ram @ 1445 MHz, P17215 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515580)

It makes no sense overclocking the ram beyond the rated speed of 1250 Mhz, the gains above this frequency are pointless, but overclocking the GPU on these is good.

[CrimInalA]

The thread is called 5800 series overclocking thread . and you are posting 5700 series ? or did i miss something :cord:

[bhavv]

I think you missed the first line of the OP:


Official HD5870 / HD5850 / HD5770 / HD5750 Overclocking Thread

:p

[VOID WARRANTY]

The thread is called 5800 series overclocking thread . and you are posting 5700 series ? or did i miss something :cord:

Dont call the cops

[CrimInalA]

I think you missed the first line of the OP:



:p

so i DID miss something :rofl:
got me abit confused but i'm all with you now :clap:

[Astennu]

I got some results at last for my Xfire 5770s :)

The CPU is running at 3780 Mhz with turboboost, and the vga ram is at stock speed of 1200 Mhz in each run.

GPU @ 850 Mhz, P14690 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515397)

GPU @ 900 Mhz, P15578 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515434)

GPU @ 960 Mhz, P16124 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515465)

They seem to respond really well to GPU increases, just hope I can unlock the upper limit to 1 Ghz and up soon. I'll be increasing the ram speed next.


Keeping the GPU at 960 Mhz, and increasing the ram:

Ram @ 1250 Mhz, P16797 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515496)

Ram @ 1300 Mhz, P17020 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515511)

Performance decrease at 1350 Mhz ram - P16773 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515522) (I tried two runs, similar result both times).

Ram @ 1445 MHz, P17215 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515580)

It makes no sense overclocking the ram beyond the rated speed of 1250 Mhz, the gains above this frequency are pointless, but overclocking the GPU on these is good.

Can you do the same tests with a game ? like DOWII or FC2 ?
I find the boost with the higher core speeds strange. You would think these GPU's would be bandwith limited. And i still think a 850 MHz 5770 should be faster then a HD4870 1gb but its not. the 4870 is about 8% faster.

[bhavv]

That is exactly what I thought, that these cards were bandwidth limited so the ram increases should have helped, but they dont. It seems to be overclocking the GPU on them that makes them a lot better. I would like to be able to get them to 1 Ghz.

I think the ram timings mess up above 1300 Mhz or something, because something causes it to loose prformance at 1350 Mhz.

I'll look for the Far Cry II benchmark now, I dont play FPS games but will see if I can get the benchmark. I've kept the cards clocked at 960 / 1300 for to test for stability in games, and they've been fine in a few MMO's, but I had to increase the voltage slightly from 1.13v to 1.16v to stop the display driver from crashing.

I think the 5770 is currently so much slower then the 4870 due to immature drivers, at least overclocking it brings it up to par with the 4800's somehow. One way to test would be underclock a 4870's ram down to half the clock of the 5770 so both have the same bandwith, while underclocking the 5770 GPU to the same as the 4870, but my 4870's are already wrapped up ready to post so Im not doing that.

Seems like I cant get the FC2 benchmark without buying the game, so I cant do that.

[mR Yellow]

I think the ram timings mess up above 1300 Mhz or something, because something causes it to loose prformance at 1350 Mhz.



Yes, your performance will get worse because the error correction is hitting in.

[Andrea deluxe]

whath is the max voltage for a 5870 gpu?

i try 970mhz with 1.3v but if i try 1000mhz system crash....

any help?

[mR Yellow]

whath is the max voltage for a 5870 gpu?

i try 970mhz with 1.3v but if i try 1000mhz system crash....

any help?

I get 1ghz on the core with 1.274 volts.

[Andrea deluxe]

I get 1ghz on the core with 1.274 volts.

my gpu can't get 1ghz....

i have try 1.35v....:mad:

but at default voltage get 925mhz.....

[billdavis]

whath is the max voltage for a 5870 gpu?

i try 970mhz with 1.3v but if i try 1000mhz system crash....

any help?

right now via software is 1.35v

processors usually like cold as much as volts so if you cant add volts add cooling:up:

[Henry]

5850 CF @ 1075/1300 + GTS 250 (As PhysX)

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2848/5850cfgts250.jpg

[jaredpace]

That's a sweet setup, Henry. Thanks

[Henry]

@jaredpace : Thanks m8 :)

A little update :

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8375/p31526.jpg

My RIG :D

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2341/rig1.jpg

[Chri$ch]

now with EK Waterblock :)

http://img5.abload.de/img/3x70l.png

[Utnorris]

Ok, so here my latest at 1100/1298 at 4.6Ghz on my I7 920. I found that the drivers pre-10/13 actually give me a better score. I think I have more still, so I am going to keep playing with it.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3429/vantage1100129846.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/vantage1100129846.jpg/)

[Utnorris]

How far will she go:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4073/vantage1125129846.th.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/vantage1125129846.jpg/)

[Utnorris]

1125 seems to be the highest Core I can bench at. Not too bad of an overclock. Also, that is with the EK block on water at 1.35v.

[jaredpace]

1125 seems to be the highest Core I can bench at. Not too bad of an overclock. Also, that is with the EK block on water at 1.35v.

Thanks utnorris! How hot are the vrms? Can you show a few instances of GPU-Z?

[gabe]

1125 seems to be the highest Core I can bench at. Not too bad of an overclock. Also, that is with the EK block on water at 1.35v.

You should always clarify, on "chilled" water ;-) - A lot of readers do not measure their water-temps, so they have no point of reference with your 21c.

[Draxx]

right now via software is 1.35v

processors usually like cold as much as volts so if you cant add volts add cooling:up:

My Asus 5870 with Smartdoctor allows upto 1.5v :up:

[Gaul]

My Asus 5870 with Smartdoctor allows upto 1.5v :up:

and with vgpu 1.5, max u got for gpu ? 1100 ? 1075 ?

[Utnorris]

You should always clarify, on "chilled" water ;-) - A lot of readers do not measure their water-temps, so they have no point of reference with your 21c.

True, but it is in my sig and usually most GPU only loops are not that far above ambient with a triple rad. But I will in the future. The only reason I give the water temp is so people know the delta between water temp and the actual GPU temp just in case they were considering the EK block. I am sure you can appreciate this since you make a water block for the HD5870 also. I will list the fact that it is a water chiller in the future for reference.

As far as my VRM's, not sure, but all three temps from Everest are within 2c of each other. Look on the far right of my SS and you will see them in the list.

[bhavv]

Windows 7 makes a difference for me :)

P18168 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1521815)

[..::G80::..]

With afterburner and AMD clocktool, is it possible overclock 3x5870?
Two cards arrive today and some LN2. :D

yesterday I tested my first card and, it did 1.23V 1025MHz core.;)

[Oese]

u better only use afterburner, gpu tool is crap. afterburner can oc multiple gpu's, but 900mhz limit is there with other then asus or msi bios....

[gergregg]

Still playing around waiting for my waterblock to be available.

5850
1.275v
1050 core
1250 mem
Stock cooling

vantage GPU 18273

[Utnorris]

Nice job! Wait till you get your water block, I bet 1100 will be easy for you.

[Gaul]

P 17.200

Q66 @ 4 GH + 5870 @ 1000/1350

http://i36.tinypic.com/2nqtxna.jpg

[pr@$r1g]

"sweet sweet sweet " :D there a hell lot of going on here ...........................

why has AMD set core clock @ 850 they should made it default to 1000 for core & with that many of u would have gone 1200 & above ^...........................

[Lightman]

"sweet sweet sweet " :D there a hell lot of going on here ...........................

why has AMD set core clock @ 850 they should made it default to 1000 for core & with that many of u would have gone 1200 & above ^...........................

Probably TDP reasons ...

I love how easy is to get 1GHz core on this card! Memory though is another topic...

Anyone know if memory voltage can be adjusted via software on HD5870??

[Utnorris]

That's a good question, but I bet it will have to be a hard mod for the memory. Should help push the memory past the 1300 marker.

[SonDa5]

Windows 7 makes a difference for me :)

P18168 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1521815)



Good looking score for Xfired HD5770s.
Is that as fast as your HD5770s will go?
Think you can increase that score?

[Blkout]

Probably TDP reasons ...

I love how easy is to get 1GHz core on this card! Memory though is another topic...

Anyone know if memory voltage can be adjusted via software on HD5870??

I don't think anyone has had any problems pushing the memory to 1300MHz and shouldn't really need to go any higher, that's more than enough bandwidth. Core overclocking makes far more difference.

[CornerJack]

i870@4GHz + 5870 1150/1351MHz with 1.35v LN²

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p21313.jpg

[ACEkombatkiwi]

Hi guys,

:D Finally got my pair of Sapphire 5870's after 3 weeks of waiting, i have to say it was worth it no doubt. First thing i did was flash the bios with the MSI.rom it was pretty straight forward but i was a bit worried considering it was my first time doing it (could have been a couple of expensive paper weights). Didn't take me long though till i got frustrated and annoyed that I could not get the cards stable @ the magic 1GHz considering i have been following this thread for a while now and seeing how many of you have.

Have a look at the Excel data i collected my card hates any extra voltage over stock and just gets worse as the voltage is increased.

I have got a lot more to say but i have been up for 40hrs and really need some sleep so i will just let my screen shot do the talking.

I am a bit worried that my Enermax85+ 850w isn't going to be enough for my setup what do you guys think.

Will follow up with more benchies tomorrow.

[spajdr]

Enermax85+ 850W? That PSU can take even three 5870 cards easily.

[dnottis]

Probably TDP reasons ...

I love how easy is to get 1GHz core on this card! Memory though is another topic...

Anyone know if memory voltage can be adjusted via software on HD5870??

There is no real reason to push ram past ~1250 since performance is about the same as 1300 mhz. Over 1300 performance decreases. Push the core, leave the memory @ 1300Mhz.

[TheBlueChanell]

Here's my latest run.

More info here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235831&page=2

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4655/1090130038ghz2.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/1090130038ghz2.jpg/)

[ACEkombatkiwi]

Hey guys

core i7 975@4GHz/ Sapphire 5870@925/1288 (24/7),1040/1300 (max)

Back again after some well deserved sleep as promised i have a few more benchies for you.

All are on max quality with no AA @ 1920x1080 single card only for now still need to run the crossfire tests.

Call of Jurez
min:42
avg:88
max:171
min:44
avg:96
max:197

Crysis
min:20
avg:29
max:43
min:22
avg:33
max:48

Resident Evil 5
min:92
avg:112.5
max:171
min:99
avg:122.7
max:198

Vantage Performance Preset
CPU:24485
GPU:17296
3DMARK SCORE:18666
CPU:24293
GPU:18761
3DMARK SCORE:19894

[CornerJack]

i870@4.2GHz + Asus 5870 Tweak Voltage 1198/1301MHz 1.35v under LN² -45°C
Impossible to have 1201MHz because bios limited ? or AfterBurner...

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p22042.jpg

[Astennu]

That is exactly what I thought, that these cards were bandwidth limited so the ram increases should have helped, but they dont. It seems to be overclocking the GPU on them that makes them a lot better. I would like to be able to get them to 1 Ghz.

I think the ram timings mess up above 1300 Mhz or something, because something causes it to loose prformance at 1350 Mhz.

I'll look for the Far Cry II benchmark now, I dont play FPS games but will see if I can get the benchmark. I've kept the cards clocked at 960 / 1300 for to test for stability in games, and they've been fine in a few MMO's, but I had to increase the voltage slightly from 1.13v to 1.16v to stop the display driver from crashing.

I think the 5770 is currently so much slower then the 4870 due to immature drivers, at least overclocking it brings it up to par with the 4800's somehow. One way to test would be underclock a 4870's ram down to half the clock of the 5770 so both have the same bandwith, while underclocking the 5770 GPU to the same as the 4870, but my 4870's are already wrapped up ready to post so Im not doing that.

Seems like I cant get the FC2 benchmark without buying the game, so I cant do that.

Thats what i thought aswell. It could be the drivers. And you see that in some games its on par with the 4870. Lowering the ram clocks that much on a 4870 would not be fair. Yes you have the same bandwith. But the MC's are made for faster ram. Its possible that you see a huge drop in performance because the MC can not perform well on those speeds.

+ RV840 is not a RV770 with DX11. More changed. They took out some GPGPU capability's that the RV7x0 and the RV870 do have.

Its realy a GPU for gamers. But that should not cause games to slow down.

But i think we will see a 10-20% boost for the RV8xx cards that the RV7xx wont get. + with DX11 you can also have a 25% boost in performance vs DX10.1, better image quality or a combination of both..... So in the future i think the HD5770 will perform on HD4890 levels but then with a lot more features on it.

[pr@$r1g]

i870@4.2GHz + Asus 5870 Tweak Voltage 1198/1301MHz 1.35v under LN² -45°C
Impossible to have 1201MHz because bios limited ? or AfterBurner...

http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p22042.jpg

:clap: thats what i will never be able to do :D :up:

[bhavv]

As a few people have said above, something messes up on these cards when overclocking the ram over 1300, to the point that 1450 Mhz performs the same as 1300, and the difference between 1250 and 1300 is tiny.

For benchmarking, you can try running 1300 on 5800s, and 1450 on 5700's, but for everyday use it is best to keep them at 1250 which all of them should easilly handle as that is the rated speed on the ram chips.

The best thing to do for benching and overall performance is to OC the GPU as far as it will go.

The 5770 is ideal for gamers, it just needs to be clocked to 950 / 1250 to bring it up to 4800 performance, then the 5800s are good for enthusiasts, rich people, or anyone playing far above 1920x1200.

It would also be a good idea to wait for factory overclocked 5770s, because I have seen a lot of reviews where they couldnt reach 950 Mhz on them, but maybe because they werent increasing stock volts.

With the 5800s, just buy any and get OC'ing and modding it however you like :p.


I flashed my cards to the Asus bios:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/188/5770overclock.png

Testing for higher clocks now :)

I get artifacts at 1050 Mhz, and complete system crash at 1100, so it looks like I'll be sticking to 1000, which is very decent enough :)

[SonDa5]

Testing for higher clocks now :)

I get artifacts at 1050 Mhz, and complete system crash at 1100, so it looks like I'll be sticking to 1000, which is very decent enough :)



Looks toasty. Crank up the fan and run some Vantage and 3dMark06 benchmarks when you get it tuned right. Please. :yepp:

[bhavv]

I havnt benched at 1000 Mhz yet, and my screen gets covered in artifacts after a while of gaming, looks like the stock cooler cant handle them going that high so I've reduced them back down to 950 Mhz.

Looks like I'll have to install my Thermaltake S orbs on them soon.

I'm too busy playing battleforge atm, but 1000+ Mhz will need better aftermarket coolers, which I already have :)

Stock cooler can only handle up to 960 Mhz it seems.

[SonDa5]

I havnt benched at 1000 Mhz yet, and my screen gets covered in artifacts after a while of gaming, looks like the stock cooler cant handle them going that high so I've reduced them back down to 950 Mhz.

Looks like I'll have to install my Thermaltake S orbs on them soon.

I'm too busy playing battleforge atm, but 1000+ Mhz will need better aftermarket coolers, which I already have :)

Stock cooler can only handle up to 960 Mhz it seems.

Good to know.

Between single HD5850 and HD5770 Xfire which do you think is better? Why?

[jaredpace]

Some more 5850 OC performance with wattage (28% performance increase) numbers:


Crysis
2048*1152 8*aa , very high

idle 157/300
122w

725/1000 1,088v
29fps 270w

775/1125 1,088(ccc max)
31-32fps 280w

820/1200 1,088
33-34fps 285w

850/1220 1,1
34fps 294w

900/1220 1,2v
35fps 325w

950/1220 1,2v
36fps 330w

1000/1220 1,3v
37fps 370w

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showpost.php?p=13199349&postcount=1028