64bit - how the hell do you manage? [Archive]

koksy

09-18-2009, 01:07 PM

I've been having nothing but problems with drivers since I installed windows 7 64bit. I'm aware that some of the problems do relate to the fact that I'm running windows 7, but using 64bit has by far been the biggest problem yet.

First my cisco card drivers didn't work. Fortunately windows update fixed this.
Now my edimensional headset won't work, even after the update.
And there control panel for the x-fi card that followed with the motherboard doesn't work, so I'm stuck with 2.0 sound on my 5.1 system, even after I ran the supposed "fix" on this forum.

THIS IS JUST GREAT. I'm quite frustrated now. How the hell do you guys manage? :shrug::confused:

tool_462

09-18-2009, 01:10 PM

Apparently you just have bad luck, I've been using 64 bit for a long...long time and have had issues only a single time with a printer that didn't have drivers that would work on 64 bit (Vista) but it works fine on Windows 7 with default drivers :shrug:

64dragon

09-18-2009, 01:25 PM

i'm with tool, the only driver issues i've had have been with a printer. i've been running 64bit since '05

koksy

09-18-2009, 01:35 PM

oh dear god, I still need to install my printer. This can only bring more problems.

G.Foyle

09-18-2009, 02:26 PM

Running 64 bit since Vista beta builds. No problems other than ASUS Xonar DX not working with default drivers (you had to jump through some loopholes to get it working back in the day, but its fine now).

zanzabar

09-18-2009, 02:37 PM

do u have an xfi, or do u have the proprietary add in card thats a realtec onboard with creative codecs. and the why would your headset need drivers, if u got a usb headset then u are getting what u paid for.

ive used 64bit since xp and the only problems ive ever had were with printers and sound. printers are easy u just mod the INI for a similar printer with 64bit support to incude your printers ID. for sound its a pain but if u figure out who made it u can get direct drivers, IE i dont think that u have xfi so get the driver then install the xfi applications (might need compatibility) mode

asus has the driver, and the xfi utility
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

edit- windows7 can use the same drivers as vista, so if there isnt one for win7 there should be one for vista

Particle

09-18-2009, 03:14 PM

With the exception of ancient hardware, I've not found 64-bit to be a challenge. I've ran without many issues attributed to 64-bitedness since 2005.

RCG_Bex

09-18-2009, 04:34 PM

<---- XP 64bit & loving it

~Bex

SoulsCollective

09-18-2009, 05:21 PM

I think the overall vibe here is that you have astoundingly bad luck, because you seem to be running all the hardware in that tiny, tiny <5% of modern consumer electronic devices that lack drivers for a 64-bit OS.

Re your specific problems, I can't help with any other than to note that if Windows Update fixed your network card issues, are you familiar with downloading and installing newer driver packages for your hardware than those included on the CDs that come with them? I don't mean to sound disparaging, but Windows Update is just downloading drivers that manufacturers have alerted MS to, so if that's fixing your problems then it means there are newer drivers available which you could go grab yourself.

Re the "headset", though, it'd help if you could post specifics. Is it standard 3.5mm audio jack? Is it USB? Manufacturer? Model?

koksy

09-20-2009, 01:24 AM

I have an X-Fi Supreme sound card (the one that follows with the Rampage 2 Extreme). I can find no drivers on creatives own website. The drivers from Asus' own ftp don't work, neither with the fix found in the Intel subforum. I'll try reinstalling them and see if it works.

My headset is a Edimensional Pro 5.1. I downloaded the newest drivers form their website, never used the ones with the CD. Edimensional also says that there are windows 7 issues, so I guess it has nothing to do with 64 bit. It just sucks to have a headset without a working mic :P

NaMcO

09-20-2009, 01:30 AM

That's odd, the drivers i got from ASUS website are working flawlessly and, as you can see by my signature, i have a R2E and run Windows 7 x64. I don't recall if i had to use any tricks to get it to work (i mean the Creative layer, the 140MB+ file) but it's working as it's supposed to, even asked for the serial number. You might have to run it in Vista compatibility mode.

koksy

09-20-2009, 03:33 AM

It appears that I'm an idiot, and didn't look enough.
Now I have the newest widows 7 64bit soundmax and x-fi drivers from Asus' R2E download page. Also downloaded the newest Vista 64bit drivers from Edimensionals website. So what should I install first?

NaMcO

09-20-2009, 03:50 AM

Soundcard drivers then the Creative layer.

koksy

09-20-2009, 04:20 AM

Right, so the creative stuff works now :) Except that it only registers 2 of my 5 speakers :( And my headset mic and config panel still doesn't work, but the sound is great :P Guess that's just poor support from Edimensional.

NaMcO

09-20-2009, 04:43 AM

You need to go to the control panel (either the Creative Control Panel or Windows Control Panel) and set the speakers mode to 5.1 as it defaults to 2.0 if i'm not mistaken.

koksy

09-20-2009, 10:32 AM

Only problem is, the only option is 2/2.1, no 5.1 anywhere :/

yatesy17

09-20-2009, 01:06 PM

only problem i had with 64bit windows 7 and not being able to use flash player and printer driver but other then that its fine

GTSRboy

09-20-2009, 02:04 PM

when you mix up parts and OS's you end up with inevitable problems. Thats Apple's whole angle with not offering their OS to other systems, they want it to work right. It sounds like you have a extraneous problem thats not really identifiable...ive had problem after problem with my Vista 64 with my custom build...its just how it goes with PC's

RAW-Raptor22

09-20-2009, 02:11 PM

zalbard

09-20-2009, 03:08 PM

I've had 0 issues with x64. :confused:

RAW-Raptor22

09-20-2009, 03:12 PM

I've had 0 issues with x64. :confused:

I know my issue has nothing to do with it being x64, as I have run XP x64 since 2005. It has to do with Windows 7 not liking my hardware or something... :(

koksy

09-21-2009, 11:26 PM

I know my issue has nothing to do with it being x64, as I have run XP x64 since 2005. It has to do with Windows 7 not liking my hardware or something... :(
I'm guessing you downloaded it from either a pirate site or msdn. Either way, try downloading it again.

deachus

09-24-2009, 08:29 AM

I've been running Windows 7 x64 since the first Beta release in a dual Win7_x64/Vista_x64 boot. I have been running just Windows 7 Ultimate x64 since the RC 7600 release with ZERO problems related to the operations system. I love Win 7 x64. I have had only 1 problem and that is with my HP OfficeJet J6480. HP does not have a FULL driver set available yet but Windows 7 x64 allows me to print from the printer and manually scan from the machine. Just can't use the nice one button scan to PC feature. Not Windows 7 x64 fault.

Jamesrt2004

09-24-2009, 09:32 AM

My new Windows 7 installation keeps BSOD, with IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL.... :mad:

Video drivers wont install correctly, I cant get my media to share over the network, my Office 07 wont install. Its a nightmare... :mad: :mad:

take off your overclock.

thats normally RAM issue, win 7 seems to be a lot "stricter"? on overclocks then vista or XP I had this problem too.. :(

RAW-Raptor22

09-25-2009, 04:37 PM

take off your overclock.

thats normally RAM issue, win 7 seems to be a lot "stricter"? on overclocks then vista or XP I had this problem too.. :(

Im stock, and my RAM is underclocked.... :shakes:

AndrewZorn

09-25-2009, 06:18 PM

64bit - how the hell do you manage?
i time-travelled to THE YEAR 2007

RAW-Raptor22

09-25-2009, 07:05 PM

i time-travelled to THE YEAR 2007

I time traveled to the year 2005.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51i8fRbT5gL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

slim142

09-25-2009, 11:08 PM

0 issues with Windows 7 RTM Ultimate x64

I also have the eDimensional headset, the drivers are not windows 7 ready yet. I did get the mic and sound to work by installing it manually. However, the control panel to configurate the EQ and all the sound options is unavailable at this time.

I switched back to XP x64 for now and Im glad I went back for now.

glen

09-27-2009, 01:53 AM

I've had issues with Win 7x64. First my Emu soundcard will only work in ASIO mode, so no sound from java, IE8, or any normal program. Also only one of my two eSata harddrives is not hot swappable with Win 7x64. No problems with either on WinXP 32 bit.

Flip_Lx

09-28-2009, 02:06 PM

64bit hasnt been a problem for me at all thankfully, guess im a bit lucky the only time i ever had an issue was setting up my dads new 64vista and thats because linksys/cisco dont have 64bit drivers for half their network cards took me a minor hassale of finding the chipset maker drivers and installing that but really thats been the only hitch i've ever had running 64 vs 32 (unless you want to count the old coretemp issue)

itznfb

09-30-2009, 07:24 AM

I haven't had driver issues with x64 in about 6 years. I also do the necessary research and make sure hardware has the proper drivers before buying.

Brian y.

10-02-2009, 09:51 AM

X64 on my main rig has been without problems since vista made it available. On the other hand though my lappy is a borderline schizophrenic that has been giving me headaches since I got it.....

defect9

10-02-2009, 12:15 PM

I've found that things work best when I build the computer for the OS, instead of expecting the OS to handle the computer. XP64 with zero unexpected issues.

now, that doesnt mean there aren't problems, just that the ones I have are fully expected. The occasional older bit of software doesnt work (anything made to run on a 16bit machine, for instance), some games just hate it (though very rare now), and even microsoft forgets about it (they made certain live messenger updates mandatory install, but forgot to let it install on a XP64bit machines until many complained).

even with those expected issues, I love my 64bit system. Anything necessary that I have to run that won't work on this rig can always get stuck on the laptop.

scubasteve1980

11-18-2009, 11:48 AM

ive just had a pc built consists of i7 960 rampage 2 extreme 6gb corsair ddr3 nvidia gtx295 110 psu windows 7 64 bit when i got system was no os on it ! i sent it back as it was brand new and told them 2 sort it so they had it back .when i recived again with same problem they told me to in stall os and all drivers but mother board drivers was not compatible with os so i contacted them again and they told me to download them from asus but only driver got on working properly was probe ! tweak kit etc wont go on so i contacted them and they said they dont advise putting tweak kit etc on as it could make computer unstable ! but i told them thats what board is designed for and there would be no way that i could monitor my system without software any ideas ? i have been on asus site but drivers wont go on (sorry but i am a noob ) and in desperate need of help

RAW-Raptor22

11-18-2009, 09:41 PM

Kingcarcas

11-19-2009, 04:35 AM

Wow that was epic :ROTF: No problems what so ever. Vista 64 and 7 64, heck on our PCs i didn't even need to download drivers! Everything worked out of the box, of course it's best to download the latest anyway. Canon, HP Printers, X-Fi Xtremegamer...

only one slight issue (i think it's Nvidias problem) is not being able to change the scaling settings in the Nvidia control panel.

winstontj

11-19-2009, 06:20 AM

Good read... I'll be sticking with XP-64 for a while longer. I don't have time to deal with the potential issues you guys are discussing.

gillll

11-19-2009, 06:24 AM

Good read... I'll be sticking with XP-64 for a while longer. I don't have time to deal with the potential issues you guys are discussing.

ironic but xp64 is the worse 64 bit out of the 3 (xp,vista and 7)
nowadays 99% of manufactures take out 64bit drivers. and if not don't buy their products.
if something gets wrong probably is a user mistake not os/driver/hw issue.

DeadlyFire

11-19-2009, 06:43 PM

Im stock, and my RAM is underclocked.... :shakes:

stock ram can still be bad, have you run memtest for a few hours?

jcool

11-19-2009, 07:00 PM

Been running XP x64 since it came out, and never looked back. 3GB of Ram - how the hell do you manage?! ;)

ExodusC

11-20-2009, 08:32 AM

I've ran Windows XP x64, Windows Vista x64, and Windows 7 x64 with absolutely no driver problems, aside from some off brand TV tuner card that I don't use anyways.

Mescalamba

11-20-2009, 11:23 AM

Win 7 x64.. no problems, except all scanner won´t install.. but fault is on scanner (manufacturer) side.. not x64 or Windows side. :D All problems I´ve ever encountered with x64 were pure manufacturers fault.

RAW-Raptor22

11-20-2009, 12:15 PM

I've ran Windows XP x64, Windows Vista x64, and Windows 7 x64 with absolutely no driver problems, aside from some off brand TV tuner card that I don't use anyways.

Same here. Only driver issue I ever had was an off brand wireless network adaptor. A $15 100ft CAT6 ethernet cable fixed that problem. :p:

Glow9

11-28-2009, 02:28 AM

i'm with tool, the only driver issues i've had have been with a printer. i've been running 64bit since '05
07 for me I love it. Except IE whatever the F it's problem is.

s1nykuL

12-01-2009, 07:45 AM

Win 7 RC2 64bit works flawlessly on my 18 month old core 2 laptop, but this is a test install, I do research with it. I have had very few problems with hardware support in all the OSes I have used in the past. But I have always waited at least 12 months after a Windows OS release before I committed to it. It usually takes that long for hardware manufacturers and Microsoft themselves to fix the flaws and resolve incompatibilities. Although my advice maybe of little use to you or anyone else who wants to run on the bleeding edge of hardware and software, I still suggest not using any newly released Windows OS for at least 12 months.

Kingcarcas

12-01-2009, 02:45 PM

What will you do after the RC expires? That used to be my rule as well but i jumped on the 7 bandwagon, soon after someone hooked me up with a Vista key so i really didn't need to buy it:lol2:

s1nykuL

12-01-2009, 03:44 PM

What will you do after the RC expires? That used to be my rule as well but i jumped on the 7 bandwagon, soon after someone hooked me up with a Vista key so i really didn't need to buy it:lol2:

Win 7 should have had enough fixes/patches released and hardware manufacturers may have developed all necessary drivers by then, who knows? But once the RC does expire I will format the partition to ext3, obtain a retail copy of Win 7 and install it in a vm for continued research. I didn't mention my lappy dual boots Ubuntu and Win 7. Ubuntu is the main OS it runs XP in a vm very nicely. I guess I will eventually install Win 7 on my XP gaming machine, but that is around 12 months away. Don't get me wrong I love new tech, learning how it works, what's new etc. But after all the pain that an upgrade from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 caused, I vowed to never again upgrade anything but a test setup to the latest MS offering.

overclocking101

12-01-2009, 07:09 PM

only 64 bit i've ever had problems with is XP

HuffPCair

12-01-2009, 07:50 PM

i'm with tool, the only driver issues i've had have been with a printer. i've been running 64bit since '05

Same here stupid dell makes drivers for every printer but mine it seems LOL i went to their website the other day and they do have a new list but Im still the one not on it

franklin5252

12-18-2009, 01:11 PM

Hmmmmmm...........I have a friend thats got that board i dont think he has got that problem though ill have to ask him to make sure.

Ethelred

12-23-2009, 02:54 PM

I just bought Win7 Pro the other day (first time I've ever actually bought a OS too...) and have had few issues with drivers I think the only problem I had was the voltage on my front USB ports and brief problems with my wireless card.

I was confused though as to why they sell the upgrade and clean install packages when they are essentially the same (ones cheaper obviously) and do the same.

SmaKKed

12-23-2009, 03:36 PM

Just rolled out Windows 7 64 bit on 400 machines not one issue as yet???

vaio

12-23-2009, 03:51 PM

Step 1......install windows.
Step 2......install Firefox.
Step 3......install AVG Free.
Step 4......install Boinc.

Sorted :D

Lome

12-23-2009, 07:43 PM

Same here stupid dell makes drivers for every printer but mine it seems LOL i went to their website the other day and they do have a new list but Im still the one not on it

I seem to remember using some hp laser jet drivers for a dell laser not too long go, course this was over a network, i think almost any postcript type drive might work for printers