1014 bios for P4C800/Deluxe

[JoeBar]

After the 1013 fiasko, a new bios for P4C800 and P4C800 Deluxe has been released on the german ftp server. Untill now no word on P4C800-E but i guess it will be up sooner or later.
Try it and post your results.

[JeffPH]

how r u joebar long time no see :)

[BBThumper]

.........are you going to try it first? :D ..................

[st0nedpenguin]

We need a http://members.rogers.com/ynnepd/images/pig.jpg

[Nebulous]

Originally posted by st0nedpenguin
We need a http://members.rogers.com/ynnepd/images/pig.jpg



:lol: I cuncur

Pengy awsome pic! :D

A linky would be nice too ;)

[Slickthellama]

that guinnea pig is cute

[Major]

I'm going to flash right now and will let ya know

[Major]

No problems with flash, I used AsusUpdate from windows.

I didn't clear the CMOS after the flash as I have had problems with doing so, atleast with the 1013 bios.

[BBThumper]

........Link:

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_478/INTEL_Chipset/i875p/

Warning:
This BIOS can only be flashed with
the following flashtool versions
(or higher versions) !
Do NOT use older versions !

ASUS LiveUpdate v5.22.02
ASUS AFUDOS v2.07

FINAL = beta Status
1014 = 1014.003

[Nebulous]

Tanx Thumper :thumbsup:

*update*

Had to rename the bios to P4C800.ROM and baddabing baddaboom, flashed with no problemo.

Runnin same speed, settings, yadda yadda. ;)

[JoeBar]

Originally posted by JeffPH
how r u joebar long time no see :)

Fine m8! U? :wave:

[JoeBar]

Originally posted by BBThumper
.........are you going to try it first? :D ..................

I had no probs with 1013 bios. I'm going to flash it a post back.

[st0nedpenguin]

The 1014 for the P4C800-E Deluxe is also out, pick up a copy here (ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_478/INTEL_Chipset/i875p/P4C800-E_Deluxe/1014ed.zip). :D

[Creative]

Cheers St0ned :thumbsup:

Any reports as yet anywhere?

Will flash tomorrow :)

[st0nedpenguin]

It's going down quite well on the ABXForums (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/index.php?s=), no reports of dead boards yet. :D

[BBThumper]

........Flashed and up and running :D . PLEASE DO NOT JUST DOWNLOAD THE BIOS WITHOUT READING THE READ-ME..........

[Blue078]

So does this BIOS make anything better ?? My boards been great, no problems, so dont se any reason to flash, well unless I could get some FSB :)

[NyCUndaGrounD]

hey guys, u should wait for like a week before u flash anything on asus. After a week check the boards and see if the guineas complain of fuggered boards!

[BBThumper]

.......I flash for the pure excitement of it.............


......found by "peroni" over at ABX:

- Fix extended F8 Menu that cant show all Devices,if you used more than one removables, HDD, and cdrom and BEV
- Revise extended memory size(16K--->64K)
- Revise Ultra DMA Mode max limit(ultra DMA mode 6--->5)
- Mute beep sound for USB device plug-in/plug-out
- Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpus...cpusupport.aspx
- Fix the system hangs after clear CMOS

[JoeBar]

Flashed it with no probs yet. :)

[brwmogazos]

No probs at all either :)

[Iridium192_217]

I flashed & found them to be worse than the 1007 Finals I was previously using.

[WxChaser]

I flashed 1014 yesterday but see no major improvements at all...especially with 5-4 divider, etc. Expected more from Asus but didn't get much!

[Creative]

Im having HUGE probs with this POS board. I dont like it and you cant make me like it :D

9/10 it wont even post and I sit here for 20 mins pressing reset and DEL or INS and then get into bios and make one change - eg put fsb 5 less - and then reboot and then again no post and we have to go thru the 20 min charade again....fooking pissing me off.....I want my Abit dammit :)

Had the above problems with both 1009 and 1014. Its not the cpu either cos I am rock solid at 4ghz for over an hour and then I use Windows reboot and then the PC wont POSt???!!!! A simple reboot from Windows and then the pc wont even post...now come on.....:mad:

I find the problem in the ranges of 245 to 255fsb and its mainly with the 5:4 divider. I put to 1:1 and we can POST and get into Windows straight away - well most times :)

Anyways, see how it goes today. When I get my 2nd P4C800-E back from RMA Im going to be selling both ASAP and grabbing a MAX3 :thumbsup:

[Soulburner]

Is your HyperX 3500 CH5? Mine didn't like CH5 either.

[Learn]

the 1014 work fine in my P4P800 :D

full pic link here (http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/P4P800/DC-268-MEM-TWEAKED!-NOPAT-P.png)

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/P4P800/DC268Small.png

[Soulburner]

Learn do you have PAT enabled? That is VERY high bandwidth for 865PE!

EDIT I just looked at the full pic and it says partial. That is very good.

[Learn]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Learn do you have PAT enabled? That is VERY high bandwidth for 865PE!

EDIT I just looked at the full pic and it says partial. That is very good.

it is disabled,
it's a tweak i've found, after i've flashed the bios,
set 200 in bios, turbo, MAM enabled ( it don't enabled pat, but the performance is good!)

only prob, i can't lock the pci/ agp :(
for the memory bench the agp /pci are 89/44...

edit: i can lock the agp/pci at 201 but the performance is slower, at 199 it enabled pat and i'can't past 230 fsb ( with the bigtoe mod bios, it' s stable 240 with the pat enabled)

[Soulburner]

If you do the 200fsb trick to enable PAT you are locked in 1:1 mode only. I have done it and my performance is boosted a lot. +15fps in Lobby Low, +500 3DMarks and lots of extra bandwidth.

But, its useless since you can only do it 1:1.

[Learn]

yes, I prefer used ratio 1:1 PAT enabled

[Soulburner]

But you are at 268.....you can't be using 1:1? Unless your pushing 3.7v through those things....

[Learn]

it's in 1:1, good estimation, 3.68v exactly :D

[Soulburner]

Damn im good :D

[Creative]

Soul, nah BH5 - Ive had these sticks for aggggges now, they are tried and tested and I will never part with them :D They are running at 250fsb 1:1 2-6-2-2 with 3:23 vcimm and I wanna see if they go higher with more vdimm :thumbsup:

Seems mdzcpa is having probs with the EE also and his MAX3 :(

[Soulburner]

I know exactly what BH5 is capable of, its just that most people don't get them up to 268.

[Nebulous]

Ratz! I'm having random crashes. Had to bump up the vcore to 1.6v :mad: Also had to relax the timings a bit to 2-2-2-8-8, Perfomance mode 'Auto' instead of 'Turbo' with vdimm maxed out. I dunno what's causing it.

[Soulburner]

That's not unheard of, I run mine daily at 3.20Ghz and it takes 1.55v set in BIOS but it fluctuates from 1.648v to 1.53v. Its fine at default voltage but when tested in Prime and watching CPU-Z, as soon as the voltage dips, BAM Prime fails so its obvious what the problem is. You just need to find a setting that allows some headroom so that when it dips it can keep up with the processor's needs.

The RAM doesn't seem happy with running tRCD2 (2-2-2-5) for extended periods of time even at 200mhz, after an hour or two of gaming it will crash or reboot. I set tRCD to 3 and its fine. I have heard the 2.85vdimm undervolts but i'm not sure how much. It will run fastest timings up to 220 for 3DMark though.

Try the RAS to CAS delay, thats usually the main thing that affects stability for me.

[Nebulous]

Tanx soul, i'll have a go at it and let ya know what happens. Also i'm not happy runnin 1.6vcore with stock cooling. Still waiting on a new rad to hook up the H20.

[Nebulous]

Ok this is really tickin' me off. I play a game and 10 minutes it locks up. temps are 40c loaded, wth?

[BBThumper]

.......do you have active coolin on the N/B? Might also run loosing up your memory timings...........

[Nebulous]

Yeah i have something like a mini delta on the NB. Any looser timings and my ram sticks will slide out of their slots.

This started after flashing to the 1014. I flashed back to 1013 and now I still have the problem. Geeeeeeeez. Plz don't tell me my mobo is screwed. Not even 1 week. if it is, i'm going with the Max3. i'm not gonna bust me head with RMA's all over again. i did that too many times already with Bartons and NF7's.

[BBThumper]

.....whats the agpv at?.........I know my ram only likes "Burst lenght =8........Perfomance mode = 'Turbo' is another strange setting my mobo will only run at..........

[Nebulous]

Vagp-1.6
Burst- 8
Performance mode-Auto

If i put performance mode on Turbo, it'll keep bsod-ing :rolleyes:

[Iridium192_217]

how about just oc a few less on the fsb??

[Nebulous]

The thing is If i have to oc less on the FSB, what's the sense of having this board? I dunno but all of a sudden i'm losing faith in Intel. 1 minute my rig is running sweet, I flash and then it truns into an irreversable problem.

First AMD, now this :rolleyes: I think i should've just bought an etch-a-sketch instead of all this high end stuff. Could've saved me lots of grief.

[BBThumper]

Originally posted by Nebulous
The thing is If i have to oc less on the FSB, what's the sense of having this board? I dunno but all of a sudden i'm losing faith in Intel. 1 minute my rig is running sweet, I flash and then it truns into an irreversable problem.


.....when you were running good do you prime and memtest? Go back and make sure all the bios settings are the same before you flashed.........Try vagp at 1.7v, it helped many...........

[Nebulous]

Yep, After tweaking i usually run:

Toast
P95
memtest
Loop 3d2k1se

Not 1 problem. Then it started. I'm gonna try 1 more time, if it continues i'm getting rid of this thing and going back to AMD. I can understand PC's having problems which is normal, but this isn't normal. $300 for a mobo and cpu and i'm forced to run stock speed? That's really stupid. I could've stuck with my pos vmodded nf7/Barton combo and used the money to get a big boobed redhead.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Nebulous
The thing is If i have to oc less on the FSB, what's the sense of having this board? I dunno but all of a sudden i'm losing faith in Intel. 1 minute my rig is running sweet, I flash and then it truns into an irreversable problem.

First AMD, now this :rolleyes: I think i should've just bought an etch-a-sketch instead of all this high end stuff. Could've saved me lots of grief.
Welcome to the world of overclocking....where s*** can and will happen....

:toast:

[Nebulous]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Welcome to the world of overclocking....where s*** can and will happen....

:toast:

Soul, i'm very aware of the world of overclocking. Been doing it a couple of years now. usually a problem starts by something causing it. In my case there should be no reason, yet it is happening and with all my expertise i can't find a reason why it's happening.

Now if i switch over, my new board will be slower which you entioned would be pointless.

Now i have a decision to make. Either
A) stay with this headace of a board and with my high end parts run stock speed which is pointless, or
B) switch over to a slower board and again is pointless.

Hmmmmm, decision, decisions....

( And a apoligize if i seem to come out sarcastic, it's in no way my intention of doing so ;) )

[BBThumper]

Originally posted by Nebulous
Yeah i have something like a mini delta on the NB. Any looser timings and my ram sticks will slide out of their slots.

This started after flashing to the 1014. I flashed back to 1013 and now I still have the problem.

........I still think if it was stable before the flash you might be missing something in the bios.......USB Legacy = Disabled?........

[Iridium192_217]

Nebulus, I have found the 1014 to be terrible. Go download the 1007 Finals somewhere. Thats what I use & they are soooo much better.

You won't have to oc less if you flash to them.

[Nebulous]

BB, USB Legacy- Disabled. Tanx for the idea tho.

Iridium, i'll look for those and see, tanx . Something's gotta fix this.

*edit* Dang can't find them. Prolly too old :( *

[BBThumper]

......do a search here for 1007 bios. They are post somewhere.....


Originally posted by bigtoe
http://www.drivers.hu/product.php?catid=1&compid=74

edit - thks NWEng

[NWEng]

The above link is for the Deluxe, not the E-Deluxe. I believe you can still use the 1007 for the ED, but you lose some functionality and I don't remember exactly was it was. For what it's worth, HERE'S (http://drivers.hu/product.php?prodid=5002) the link for the ED. I think I'm going to go back to the 1011 myself, I think I lost a little stability which shows itself running 2 folding clients.


:cool:

[Nebulous]

Much appreciated guyz. I'll flash tomorrow and hope this is it.

[st0nedpenguin]

I'm having a few probs myself, stability seems to be sturdy enough at 3.3GHz, 5:4, 275MHz, 2-3-3-6 timings, but occasionally I see odd voltage problems, like my rails jumping up or down for a second or two, it doesn't affect stability though.

Also my CPU temp has a tendency to jump to 86c according to ASUS probe and MBM 5, it clearly hasn't risen at all, but it's enough to trigger the alarms, again without affecting stability though.

I'm waiting on an RMA of my RAM, which is having trouble running stock speeds and timings, but I can't see that being the cause if the problem, has anyone else seen this before on this board?

[Nebulous]

Hey Pengy how are your mem scores with those relaxed timings at that FSB? Also what vdimm, you're maxed out?

[BBThumper]

......ever since my first nforce2 mobo I don't run any temp programs. No matter what mobo I have had, none read right so I have them install but refuse to have one constantly running.....

[st0nedpenguin]

Yup, the vDIMM is maxed out at 2.85v in the BIOS, I haven't checked out guides for mods for this board yet so I can't test the actual voltage.

The Sandra mem score was just touching on 6000MB/s, it popped over it once, but was usually about 5950MB/s ish.

[Nebulous]

Hmmmm, interesting. Well I did'nt want to loosen the timings too much cuz I know for sure this ram will run 7-2-2-2 on my Nf2 boards. Looks like i'm gonna play around with the timimngs again.

Hey BB, now any bios i use i get serious instabilities. Only 1 that won't give me too much of a problem is the 1014. Go figure. Dang 1014 really screwed my mobo good.

[st0nedpenguin]

I should have the new RAM through pretty soon, so I'm hoping for some better timings action myself, and a score of over 6000MB/s more than once would be nice. :D

[Nebulous]

Awsome! Good luck :thumbsup:

Well i tried the looser timings:

2-3-3-6 and lost about 400 on mem score. Also now when i try to run 3d 2k1se it'll lock up on high detail dragothic. Geeez the 1014 bios really put a whammy on my poor new board :upset:

[st0nedpenguin]

That's a bummer, have you tried reflashing?

And have you tried flashing without clearing the CMOS jumper? Apparently it has helped a few people.

Also, there is a 1014a BIOS out for the P4C800, it supposedly fixes the problems with the CMOS flashing after the update, could be worth a try.

[Nebulous]

Yeah I tried reflashing. Went back to the 1013. Go back to the speed i'm at now and instant bloo screen no matter what timmings/voltages. i flash to the 1007 and that was even worse. Go back to 1013 and anything over stock bloo screens like crazy. Now i'm stuck with the 1014 and i'm having a nightmare trying to find a stable settting without it locking up or bloo screening me.

Got to a point i have my baseball bat right next to me. if this continues this board is gonna make great xmas decorations on my tree :mad:

[b|gf|sh]

Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but anyone know if the P4C800 has support for Prescott processors?

[BBThumper]

.......it supposedly does. The Asus site is down right now bur here is a list of supporting CPU's that are released.........

http://www.asus.com/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

[b|gf|sh]

Hmm, can't see anything about Prescott there, just 3.2EE.

[BBThumper]

......that list is only for cpu's that are on the market today. I know its posted somewhere, I just need to find it.........

.......found it:

http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800/overview.htm

[b|gf|sh]

Ah right, thanks dude.

Just looking at 875P boards just now as I fancy an upgrade over my IS7. It's kinda between: -

- Asus P4C800-E (Voltage fluctuations / Lack of VDimm)
- Abit IC7-MAX3 (Abit = poor Intel support)
- Epox 4PCA3+ (Lack of places to buy in the UK, Few bios updates so far?)
- DFI 875 RevB (Not really sure about this one, but Fuggers using it right?)

So far the Asus is looking the most likely tho, I just need to learn to volt mod.

[BBThumper]

.......I really don't think any of them choices are bad..........

[cypher_138]

I installed 1014 with the enclosed afudos. It seems fine to me here. I was able to clear the cmos via the jumper with out any issues this time. Hey D, did you try to boot to the MB disc? There are also a series of switches that you can add when you flash the Bios to clear the boot block and erase all traces of the previous one. I can't remember what they are though. I'm sure sombody here does.

[Nebulous]

Tanx cypher. I already found a fix. Flashed to 1011's and evrything seems back to normal. Loaded defaults right after the flash and let her run for a while. Then rebooted and went into bios. I set my speed and stuff, plus some tweaks and kept my fingers crossed during the reboot. She just booted into windows like a champ and no bloo screens or lock ups yet.

Dam cursed 1014 bios screwed up my board royally. I'm lucky i was able to reverse the damage. I'm hoping it did'nt affect it long term or permanent.

[BBThumper]

.......I have been seeing alot of mixed reviews too:

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59600&perpage=15&pagenumber=7

.......just glad you got yours working :toast: ............

[Nebulous]

So have I BB. Appreciate all the help bro , tanx! :toast: