XS 3D MARK 2001 Team go down

[vutov]

If someone is wondeing,who is the person that takes the first place in R9600 category,FX5200,FX5700Ultra,FX5600Ultra.
It's HardwareBG.com 3D Mark 2001SE Team.
The team is bulgarian and it's been establish before a week ago.
As you can see,all of the results that this team is publish is in the top 3 of category.

COmexGroup.com 3D Mark Team is aslo bulgarian team.
I think that the results which this teams are showing is amazing,because in Bulgaria,peoples are very poor.

I read in HardwareBG.com forums that this boys will atack the first place in R9700 category and FX5800 and others.

For now this team is second in FX9950 category.

As you know the several first places that HardwareBG.com 3D Mark Team take is been before a XS place.
I say that HardwareBg.com steal the first place in different category

[TheDude]

Congrats! Good job! :toast:

Enjoy it ...while you still have it. :D

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by MickeyMouse
lol that casue we dont bench those POS VC's as for the 9700 I doubt your team leads I would have to see that compare :)

I thought you were part of 3dmaxx Jason :p: :D

Secondly we do bench those POS cards ya cheeky bugger :), in fact I held the 5600U and 5700U records before both Bulgarian teams decided they were going to beat up on zakelwe and take both his records.

Why me ?

If hardware.bg is going to take the 5600U record then they will have to beat up the other Bulgarian team ( ComExGroup ) of which TodB is a member ( he is mollov ) and Finwe in particular .. I bet there is some inter team rivalry there :) .

Vutov, in regards to the 5700U record you are only 700 points ahead and using an AMD64 at 2411Mhz against my P4, so I would say keep it nice and warm for me until I get my AMD64 setup back ;)

Regards

Andy

[bowman1964]

the more the better ..:D

but dont think real hard about taking the r9700 class to easy.i have a 9700 510core,setting on the shelf that i have wanting to try on a a64....it has turned some 24k score's before.

good luck..:toast:

competition is what drives us all to do better.:D

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by bowman1964
the more the better ..:D

but dont think real hard about taking the r9700 class to easy.i have a 9700 510core,setting on the shelf that i have wanting to try on a a64....it has turned some 24k score's before.

good luck..:toast:

competition is what drives us all to do better.:D

Indeed :)

Go on bowman, if XS just concentrates on the top class then other teams will nibble away at our soft underbellies like vultures at the mighty majestic elephant.

the 5200 record was Opp's record, I wonder if he still has the card and could put it in his FX51 rig ? Maybe he is busy with other things at present ? :)


Regards

Andy

[Iolao]

Originally posted by bowman1964
the more the better ..:D

but dont think real hard about taking the r9700 class to easy.i have a 9700 510core,setting on the shelf that i have wanting to try on a a64....it has turned some 24k score's before.

good luck..:toast:

competition is what drives us all to do better.:D

You have a great score in 9700pro + amd 32bit cat and I'm going to try to catch you ;) See ya soon!

[KingInge2000]

Lol, i can remember a sentence from formular 1 last year which fits here. BMW:"We're the fastest team in the f1... behind Ferrari"
:D

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by MickeyMouse
lol that casue we dont bench those POS VC's as for the 9700 I doubt your team leads I would have to see that compare :)

well said jason, rofl

who the hell on xtreme has one of those pov cards anyway? those of u please stand up...!

btw, u can go and take over the TNT2/GF2MX/Radeon VE/Intel i740 too!

[bowman1964]

well while my a64 is down..i thought about playing with my nf7 rig maybe this weekend.i have a new 2600 barton i wanted to try.
and if it does well i may start out with a 9700pro on a 510 core.then move to a 9800 594 core,and then stick in a 9800xt 600 core...just to pass some time...what you think?:D
all on the older amd chip....
i could i guess slap in a p4 running 4.3g and bench those too.

o well not enough time anymore...:(

maybe i will play some....

but we welcome all who wish to challenge xtreme :D

[Poki]

The bad thing is they're littering the results with several published test. That's in bad taste in my book.

[TheDude]

Originally posted by bowman1964
well while my a64 is down..i thought about playing with my nf7 rig maybe this weekend.i have a new 2600 barton i wanted to try.
and if it does well i may start out with a 9700pro on a 510 core.then move to a 9800 594 core,and then stick in a 9800xt 600 core...just to pass some time...what you think?:D
all on the older amd chip....
i could i guess slap in a p4 running 4.3g and bench those too.

o well not enough time anymore...:(

maybe i will play some....

but we welcome all who wish to challenge xtreme :D

Please do Bowman! LOL
Pretty sad to come in here and brag about that....when they can be swatted like a fly in a few minutes. I figured someone would read this that had some old cards lying around and then just go out and clean their clock for the hell of it. :D

[majormav]

**looks at folding rigs at the golden oldie el cheapo graphics cards ** turns round sees the bench setup ** ummzz :) could be fun

[TheDude]

Originally posted by majormav
**looks at folding rigs at the golden oldie el cheapo graphics cards ** turns round sees the bench setup ** ummzz :) could be fun

:thumbsup: :hehe:

[MrIcee]

Well boys, I will be benching in the lower classes for sure.

I no longer have the horsepower or a 9800XT to be in the top ten any longer, but that won't stop my future benching in the Ti4200 class nor my soon entrance into the ATI 9600 classes.(maybe some others too)

Don't touch that dial folks:thumbsup:

Randi:D

PS: Love that av Dale:D

[JAWS]

Originally posted by vutov
In a several category Xtreme systems 3D Mark Team lose the first place.

The NEW WORLD CHAMPION IS:


who cares


We win in FOLLOWING CATEGORY:

Radeon 9600 Series
FX 5200
FX 5700 Ultra

Very soon we will take the first place in
FX5600
FX5600Ultra
R9700
the other category thats we will take for now are secret.

This team is Bulgarian and we have also another bulgarian team in the ORB.

They have the first place in FX5600 Ultra category.


Sorry this post is in very poor taste. Kinda reminds me of another thread awhile back. :mad: :mad: (sorry this is the first thread I came across this morning) but you know what they say...............YOU WANT SOME.....COME GET SOME!

don't make me start rapping :D

[Ragnarok]

exactly, u come on to our forum and insult us.. dont u have any thing better to do other than belittling others? (well at least ur pathetic attempt to anyway)

[TheDude]

Go get em Randi!
You just don't sneak up and kick a dragon while it's napping and run away without getting toasted! :D

Peeps been asking why I stopped changing my AVs...so will be making some new ones.

[zakelwe]

I know your style Jason I was posting with a smile on my lips at your retort :)

Actually the 5700U is pretty good actually, I think I can get beat the Bulgarians with a score of 19200 this weekend if all goes to plan. There's not too many GF4's that can do that with stock volts and cooling ....

My AMD64 motherboard is returning tomorrow. I spilt beer on it and it gave a LED 90 error which meant UGURU / BIOS failure, but when they tested it it was Ok, so maybe the beer dried out or maybe the AMD64 / memory has an issue now :(

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by MrIcee
Well boys, I will be benching in the lower classes for sure.

I no longer have the horsepower or a 9800XT to be in the top ten any longer, but that won't stop my future benching in the Ti4200 class nor my soon entrance into the ATI 9600 classes.(maybe some others too)

Don't touch that dial folks:thumbsup:

Randi:D

PS: Love that av Dale:D

Randi,

Nice to see you back.

As I said above the 5700U is a very good chip and with your cooling and volt modding skills you should be able to get a great score. My Gainward does 600/1070 at a pinch, all stock.

Hey guys, take it as a challenge not as a snub. I've been on their forums the last couple of days since they beat my scores and although it is DES encrypted ( or a foreign language ) they seem to rate us very highly, well highly enough to set their sights high.

I think I'll buy a 5200 FX card ..anyone know which ones have 4ns memory and which have 5ns, could make all the difference.

4ns, that seems so slow.

Regards

Andy

[ctgilles]

Try this one: beat my FX5800 score, it's been up way too long :D

Hmmm... :rolleyes: think I'll go lend some of those POS vidcards from my friend... You know, just to make it a bit more *interesting* :smileysex

[Geforce4ti4200]

even though 30k has been broken, its still interesting to bench with lower cards. the 23k mark has been held forever on a 9700 pro, also 15k, even 16k could be broken on a ti500 with a nice athlon 64 or fx rig

[JBELL]

ATI 7000 here.... hmmmm maybe?

[TheDude]

JB,

I just got a 7000 back from RMA. You're on after the Holiday! :D
I'm slowly going thru my "junk" drawer and RMAing stuff back to makers. Amazed at how much I have that still has warranty!

[digital]

Originally posted by Ragnarok
exactly, u come on to our forum and insult us..

Oh... no. vutuv's ideÃ:banana: isn't insulting you... just challenging :)

[TodB]

Originally posted by digital
Oh... no. vutuv's ideÃ:banana: isn't insulting you... just challenging :)

Yeah, but that's the very first thought which comes in one's mind when he see such post in his (in which he's a part of the 3D MARK team ) forum...

And I don't think, that Vutov's post is Challenging.... "XS 3D MARK team go down" - very challenging..... my arse!

[charlie]

Oh good idea, guys....
So if I go out and buy a Radeon 7000 or something, put my Dry Ice rig on it next to my FX-51 I can get #1's too, right? :rolleyes:

C

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by TodB
Yeah, but that's the very first thought which comes in one's mind when he see such post in his (in which he's a part of the 3D MARK team ) forum...

And I don't think, that Vutov's post is Challenging.... "XS 3D MARK team go down" - very challenging..... my arse!

I have to say there is a marked contrast between Finwe on ComExGroup.com and hardware.bg.

When saying I found it hard to talk to finwe on the ComEx forums due to the language he replied :-

"sorry i did think about this, sorry once again, my ICQ is XXXXXXXX if u would like to keep in touch with me i would be very pleased. about the the points which i have got i can answer u only one think, there is nothing forever, i'm gonna try to optimize it more =)))),

i wish u a nice day tomorrow =). "

Which sums it up nicely :) indeed nothing is forever. Very nice PM I thought to someone he beat.

Rather than just post here I have purchased a 5200 today to see if I can give hardware.bg a run in the 5200 class. I think it has 4ns memory from Samsung so that should be OK.

I will try to get 5200 and 5700U classes back this weekend, but it is in the lap of the gods of course :D

To be continued ....

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by charlie
Oh good idea, guys....
So if I go out and buy a Radeon 7000 or something, put my Dry Ice rig on it next to my FX-51 I can get #1's too, right? :rolleyes:

C

Yes, that's the idea

I'm getting the feeling XS members at the very top have lost sight why they do this in the first place, and that's because it is fun and competitive, doesn't matter what hardware you are overclocking as long as you are all on the same playing field.

This is exactly the reason why other teams who are having fun can get #1 spot in the lower rankings without even being recognised by this esteemed team.

And don't forget that Bulgaria has a lot less income per household at present and no doubt has difficulty getting the latest kit because of that.

Right, I'll get off my soapbox now and continue to support xtremesystems in the "POS" lower classes

Regards

Andy

GF3 ti200 13400 top 5
MX440 11000 top 3
GF4200ti 18800 first page
GF4400ti 18100 #1
GF FX 5200U 14 000 #1
GF FX 5600U 16000 top 3
GF FX 5700U 18300 top 3

[JBELL]

Originally posted by zakelwe
Yes, that's the idea

I'm getting the feeling XS members at the very top have lost sight why they do this in the first place, and that's because it is fun and competitive, doesn't matter what hardware you are overclocking as long as you are all on the same playing field.

This is exactly the reason why other teams who are having fun can get #1 spot in the lower rankings without even being recognised by this esteemed team.



um..... :mad: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

We have forgotten nothing.

[MrIcee]

Gentleman, Gentleman:)

When DDTUNG and I concieved this Team concept at Icrontic it was always envisioned as a "run what you brung" type of competitive benching atmosphere, very much like bracket racing in the drag racing circles, everyone has a chance in their own class.

Not everyone has the resources, the technology or the $ to run at the top, but it is indeed just as much fun in all the videocard classes. I have topped the ORB in times past myself but as many of our members realize with the cost of the latest hardware the average guy cannot attain that level. But with a Ti4200, a 9600 class card or even 7000 class card anyone with a little ingenuity and a good running system can be competitive with others with like systems.

THAT is what it is all about my friends

What OPP and FUGGER, macci, JCViggen,Charlie , Bowman and the other Top10 benchers are attaining is truly a feat and outstanding accomplishment and the Kudo's flow heavy and are well deserved to all of them !!:toast:

I've been there and done that a few times myself:D

But please do not ever lose sight of the accomplishments and fun enjoyed by the lower classes of videocard benchers, there are many good things and incredible scores being attained by some great benchers in there own right: witness mikem blowing away my longstanding 19,300 score in the Ti4200 class with a 21,000+ score on his A64....that is just phenomenal indeed !

This Team is comprised of a vast and diverse group of individuals who are driven by excellence in what they do. Lets soldier on in this drive to excellence and set aside this talk about the "POS card classes et al" There is greatness from top to bottom within the Xtreme Team my friends:thumbsup:

Your Team Captain,

Randi:D

[Holst]

Well said,

I think the guys at the bleeding edge deserve a little more cudos, but I still have allot of respect for the top guys in any class... especially those in ti4200 who are almost beating my 9800 scores :O

However I think its save to say that "XS owns you all :P"

[JAWS]

Originally posted by Holst
However I think its save to say that "XS owns you all :P"

:D

Nice post Randi! :toast:

[majormav]

excellent post randi ... i would like to add also although slightyoff topic great reults can be had with lower spec cpus too ... peeps who cannot get all the components at once can still have great fun benching .. with time and effort put in its amazing what can be done ...enjoyment and pushing your pc to its limits also thats why theres the options to see compares to your own setup/similar on the orb instead of trawling through numerous pages.... randi inspired me to run sub 1ghz ..2ghz benches b4 and what fun that is too ..

[MrIcee]

Mick my dear friend:)

Speaking of sub 1Ghz, I had a play on A64 at sub 1Ghz without mods and hit 14,436 a couple weeks or so ago(stock 9800 Pro). How about you and I go on a drive for 20,000 running at 1ghz or less??

Would be a ton of fun like before:)

Randi:D

[majormav]

Originally posted by MrIcee
Mick my dear friend:)

Speaking of sub 1Ghz, I had a play on A64 at sub 1Ghz without mods and hit 14,436 a couple weeks or so ago(stock 9800 Pro). How about you and I go on a drive for 20,000 running at 1ghz or less??

Would be a ton of fun like before:)

Randi:D would love to ... jeez those days were fun .... lemme get hold of a chip/board then we can play the nf7/1700/9800 combo dont stand much chance although the hercules 9800 i have makes the connect 3d one look like a 9700 as far as the core goes .... i currently have a intel in the bench setup which obviously wont do 1ghz or less....
p:s noticed ya score for 1ghz or less awsome acheivement ...:toast:

[GeniusLoci]

Guys, thanks for the understanding what we're doing. I'm the one who started all this - Vutov has nothing to do with our Team (he is a member of our forum, not the team) and TodB (or Mollov if u like) is our competitor. I have nor the money nor the time to compete whith you and I'm feeling bad for this - it'd be nice to se some of your best results down for some time ;)) I have different cards rarely and I dont have even enough cooling to go overe these results :)

Best wishes for all of you from HardwareBG.com (and..er..sorry - the forum is in Bulgarian)




...A64 is pretty the best CPU, but these chipsets are killing me:stick:

[V I P E R]

Hello again from Bulgaria. I just want to say hello to the best overclockers in the world. You guys at Xtremesystems ROCK. Keep on going .... :toast: :banana:

[Georgi]

It was a great challenge beating some of your scores, guys! We are fully aware that we can't compete with you, but the feeling was great when we saw our team on the top of some of the categories. Great enough to encourage our "fans", those who read our forums, to post this stupid thread in your forum. Please excuse vutov for this thread, and please, take no offence! Keep up the good work guys! :)

[DaGooch]

Friendly competition is never a bad thing and good fortune with your benching endeavors. :)

[V I P E R]

DaGooch - I'm glad that you understand this and you are not mad at us.
It is always better to have some competition because it is so lonely to be always on top :D. You guys are great .... sorry once again for the stupid post of our forum member vutov. I think that he realised his mistake and such thing will never appen again. Keep up bench and brake records.

Greetings,
V I P E R

[Ragnarok]

well i picked up an abit siluro FX5600 for 49 USD hehehehehe, so yeah

let the pov card benching begin!

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow man show me where I can get one of those too for $49!!!!!!!

[Ragnarok]

well we got given it from our supplier when we ordered a whole batch of PSUs, boss didnt want it coz he doesnt like it, so I bought it for cheap haha

[zakelwe]

Sorry if my soapbox speech was a bit melodramatic, I live just down the road from where Winston Churchill used to live and it got a bit too much for me. My danda was up as we say in England.

As Randi said there's some great fun to be had in the lower classes and it'd be fun seeing what a little card can do in a big rig if all the top guys decided to have a busmans holiday.


Right, I have nabbed the FX 5700U class back !!

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7270662

Not bad on air for everything and the card still stock inc hsf and volts.

Plenty more left in it as well.

I have an MSI 5200 turning up tomorrow as well for the weekend. It probably thinks it is going to a nice cosy home where it will do a lot of letters in 2D .

Oh dear, it's going to be in for the shock of it's oh so short life :D


Regards

Andy

[CCW]

Awesome Andy! GJ and GW!!! :D:D:D:D:D

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by CCW
Awesome Andy! GJ and GW!!! :D:D:D:D:D

Thanks Craig :)

I'm running through the 52.16 drivers at present before going to the 44.03's which show marked improvement in drag low and nature, but poor other games, however they are still better than 52.16.

I keep having to run each test one by one with a break in between. These new cards think they know better than you what speed to run when they get too hot and keep defaulting down:rolleyes:

Regards

Andy

[GeniusLoci]

Nice, guys, but I don't have time these days. Next week I will get my own 5700U. I hope it'll be a winner :)

My 5200 sux to be honest ;)
And Abit's 5600 sux without v mod.
Well..er..see you again..

[Georgi]

zakelwe, can you please tell us what were your gpu/mem speeds on the 5700 Ultra for your last score?

Tomorrow I will try to take back the first place in the 5700 Ultra category, so be ready! ;)

[GrigorBG]

Guys,
I`m one of hardwareBG.com owners, and I want to clear two things:

1. hardware.bg is newspaper. They translate some articles from west sites and we feel hurt when you make this little mistake.....

2. We are hardwareBG.com - pure, natural Bulgarian hardware site. 101% hardware entusiasts!

About Vutov`s challenge:
Vutov have right to write his own opinion. Everybody want to be No. 1, but in Bulgaria it`s very hard to beat somebody from west countries.
The "main battle" is between Mollov ( TodB ) and my team. He is our competitor - in 3Dmark, In popularity, in articles!

I realy think that we can beat you ( XS Team ), but we must invest a lot of money ... But money for games like this in BG is very hard to find. The other problem is quality hardware.... TodB and hardwareBG.com use samples from main hardware suppliers. I don`t have big chance to beat some of U with my own Sapphire Radeon 9700...... :)


zakelwe,
U must try harder with 5700 Ultra... Tommorow we`ll beat your score :) :)

p.s.
Only for statistic:
Only in this forum there at least 10 people with Vapo, Prometea or some harder... In BG we have only 1 Vapo ( TodB ) and one custom build vapor cooling ( our ).

Money is the main "wall" between hardwareBG.com and first places in 3Dmark scores.....

[TodB]

Originally posted by GrigorBG

Only for statistic:
Only in this forum there at least 10 people with Vapo, Prometea or some harder... In BG we have only 1 Vapo ( TodB ) and one custom build vapor cooling ( our ).

In that "sport" nobody complains about what he have or don't have - you either can do it or you can't.... it's either way.... OPP has the ability to have some of the top parts around - he's the ONE right now...

In this game If you want to compete you'll find the way - If you can't - it's your own damn problem. Period.

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Georgi
zakelwe, can you please tell us what were your gpu/mem speeds on the 5700 Ultra for your last score?

Tomorrow I will try to take back the first place in the 5700 Ultra category, so be ready! ;)

Hi Georgi,

That was a 585/1070 run.

Good luck !

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by GrigorBG


zakelwe,
U must try harder with 5700 Ultra... Tommorow we`ll beat your score :) :)



Well if you have one custom vapor cooling then that's more than I have ..I have both windows open :D You can't get cheaper than that ! I'm freezing my nuts off here.


Tomorrow you will beat my score eh ? Well there is confidence !

I shall keep my eyes peeled on the tables, good luck, and if you do then have a go at my 3dmark03 score as well.

Regards

Andy

[GrigorBG]

heh.. TodB,
I know the "rulz" very well... And I never say that HardwareBG.com will give up!

I just want to introduct the "Bulgarian reality"....

U know me and my team - we`ll never give up!

[GrigorBG]

zakelwe,
Where are U from ?

We don`t use vapor for this bench... it`s made for P4 PCU, and these days we must fix it for AMD.

For 3Dmark scores we use only few fans.. delta black label is good but veeery noisy....

I don`t want to use vapor with 500$ VGA card .....:)
Our main purpose is comexgroup.com ( TodB ).... OPP and you guys are extra gifts :) If we can beat U - thats cool, if we cant - OK, it`s not a big problem... at least were try....


Interesting:
2 min ago Geniusloci remove the heat sinc from GB 5950 Ultra.... the label "5950" was extra painted... I think that this "new" NV chip si very big fake.... The old 5900 with new label.... and it`s not very good for clock.... 540 core max stable...

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by GrigorBG
zakelwe,
Where are U from ?


Hi,

I'm from England. I have only been to Bulgaria once and that was 12 years ago when I went skiing. Very good it was too :)

Does mollov keep beating you ? LOL :D He is a long time XS visitor so I wish him all the best against hardwarebg :D


Regards

Andy

[GrigorBG]

heh...
I understand you about Mollov, but it`ll be too hard for him :) :)

Where U was in BG - Borovec ?

Do U plain to come in BG again ?

[CCW]

Andy,

I had to have my windows open too to get a 1GHz Overclock on my 1700+, its -2*C this morning, hope it goes down to about -5*C tonight so I can have some more fun :D

Craig

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by GrigorBG
heh...
I understand you about Mollov, but it`ll be too hard for him :) :)

Where U was in BG - Borovec ?

Do U plain to come in BG again ?


Yes Borovec ! We had some really good snow while I was there and it was a great holiday.

I might go to Bulgaria again some time but not for skiing, I broke my back on a motorbike so with my dodgy legs I would just be able to turn one way and end up in Romania.

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by CCW
Andy,

I had to have my windows open too to get a 1GHz Overclock on my 1700+, its -2*C this morning, hope it goes down to about -5*C tonight so I can have some more fun :D

Craig

Hi Craig,

Nice overclock :toast:

I think it's going to go warmer. I actually feel quite ill this morning for being 4 hours at -1C sat there in my study in my fibre pile.

My hands are shaking and my cheeks are burning. These XS people with phase change sitting there in their nice warm apartments don;t know how lucky they are:p:

oh if only I could get a couple !


Regards

Andy