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FUGGER
11-22-2003, 07:52 PM
Ok, back up and running with new stuff

New XT, unmodded
New DFI Lanparty 875B w/ 875Bigtoe modded bios.
Enermax 651P (killed the ICute 550w 3.3v rail)


Bigtoes EE bios is the only one that I found to work correctly with EE.

Initial FSB problems breaking 250 @ 1:1, the stock het sink on the NB is junk. immediate removal and destruction was needed.

Started off with some no card clock tests to check L3 was up to par. and yep all good there. This may have been the problem when I first tried the Asus P4C800.

I am up about 500points in 2K1 @ 4Ghz even with no card clocks.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7255498

I am about to mod the video card and strap on the cooling. I will add pics along the way.

When I switch off the Mach1, seat belts will be required. I will be running on a new cascade. Since ver 1.0 design was a sucess.

(I have ver 1.0 sitting idle till I get mods done, ver 2.0 might be ready before I am done beinching on the Mach1 and or video card is up to snuff)

Iridium192_217
11-22-2003, 08:09 PM
:slobber:

*fastens seat belt securely*

that is some serious cooling there, defintely keep us posted.

p.s. its good to see intel at the top:D

althes
11-22-2003, 08:28 PM
Let the fun begin:D

Kanavit
11-22-2003, 08:31 PM
good luck with this one Fugger. things are lookin good atm.

i wish you had another spare EE just to veryify the strength of current chip. a newer EE with improved stepping would be nice.

zakelwe
11-23-2003, 03:51 AM
Good luck Fugger, hope everything goes well and nothing has problems.

I see in the other thread that you said you ran stock multiplier so that other people could not whinge, however I say feck em :) ES chips have a history on 3dmark like any other. I see your point though.

30k today ?

Regards

Andy

FUGGER
11-23-2003, 04:06 AM
This new card has a crappy core, gonna thaw out and reseat the cooler.

567Mhz is not enough, but with my old card it will do 600 and that will take the #1 spot in 2K3 with my Mach1

moved into 3rd position, and about to pass again.

JCviggen
11-23-2003, 04:12 AM
I may be missing something here, but if you are running 4 GHz 250 1:1 fastest timings then your system scores suck ass :confused:

FUGGER
11-23-2003, 04:23 AM
All fixed JC, I was using same settings as the Max3 for reference.

I am benching at 264 1:1 2.5-2-2-6 now

check my 2K3

Kunaak
11-23-2003, 04:28 AM
I look forward to seeing what this new hardware can do.
it should be interesting seeing a DFI get up high on the ORB.
probably put a nice big feather in DFI's cap if they see that one of thier boards were used for the first 30K run.

it's funny how a P4EE at 4 ghz with 250 1:1 cas 2, with a 9800 Xt and "only" 567 on the core, is a junk system here ;)
thats XS for you.

FUGGER
11-23-2003, 04:45 AM
MSI did nothing to Opp, they have given the team motherboards and will swap out blown up boards for us no questions asked.

They were happy, and they advertised for Oppainter. he should hit them up for a new AMD board if he hasnt already.

FUGGER
11-23-2003, 05:00 AM
Thawing out, gonna swap out video cards.

266 1:1 2.5-2-2-6 567/459
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1622015

Geforce4ti4200
11-23-2003, 06:15 AM
excellent idea to swap cards. not all overclock equally. Ive gotten more ti4200s only to find out they overclocked nowhere near as good as this 290/600 ti4200 I have right now. also good luck on 30k or getting as close as you can, we all are rooting for you


edit: I now see the reason you arent changing the multi, to keep it fair for those who dont have an engineering sample chip. does ram exist thatll do 1:1 at like 270+ fsb at any timings?

ctgilles
11-23-2003, 07:35 AM
Nice FUGGER.
Did you get the chance to try the MSI? Or was impossible to revive it :D
Anyways, send me over an MSI or DFI, whatever goes best :D

FUGGER: are regular EE unlocked on lower multipliers? Can't wait till you ship mine ;)

Geforce4ti4200: Yes, but I do suggest crazy voltages to keep timings at max ;) nearly 4V should do it :D
Try BH-5 or Infineon PC2700 "Made in USA"

JCviggen
11-23-2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by ctgilles

FUGGER: are regular EE unlocked on lower multipliers? Can't wait till you ship mine ;)


nobody really knows at this point and you've already answered your own question in the thread next to this :rolleyes:

I think you've had 3.2EE in your sig for like 2 weeks now, would be nice if you got it in a week or so... LMAO

Also, dont think jacking mem up to 3.6-3.8 volts automatically gives you a great overclock. I would suggest not making too many statements that you know nothing about, let alone ever made it to that.

QuadDamage
11-23-2003, 09:01 AM
gilles,

i read your "3.2EE" thread @ 3DMaxx like a month ago. Are you getting one or what brfore we get old:D

Aldus
11-23-2003, 09:39 AM
PICS PICS PICS !! :D

ctgilles
11-23-2003, 10:45 AM
@JC: I have had my old Twinmos BH-5 sticks at over 3.2V (but not much due to unmodded PSUs :(), and I know that it will boost, not as much as from 2.9V to 3.2V, but still a bit... Offcourse, this is hardware dependant, so you are never sure of such statements. (Maybe look up the meaning of a :D smilie... :rolleyes: )
Also, I read in some review all EE were unlocked, but due to PM's with FUGGER, I am beginning to doubt. (He doesn't know either.)
If all goes well, the EE will arrive here this week. As always, great planning, I have exams :rolleyes:
I hope *cough* my Prometeia will be able to hold that EE somewhat cool ;) FUGGER's Prometeia reports are making me anxious :D
Don't blame me for not having an EE, I have payed it a few weeks ago, but due to things that are not mine, nor FUGGER's fault, he's shipping on Monday.
And JC, you could rephrase your questions so they don't seem offensive? You might piss people off into saying §§§§ you don't want them to say...

@QuadDamage: Blame Intel. Hyping a chip and then absolute §§§§ty to get your hands on, just great :stick:
So I told 'em or I got an EE next week, or they could shove it up their asses... FUGGER even thought about lending me his ES, but actually didn't want to. He'd kill me if I broke it :D
And look, he just got 6 of 'em, sweet, finally :toast:
And judging my 'luck', FedEx will probably screw up my delivery, like lose the parcel or something, or something's DOA... Fortunately, FUGGER tested all parts :) He's great ;)

Iridium192_217
11-23-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by JCviggen
nobody really knows at this point and you've already answered your own question in the thread next to this :rolleyes:

I think you've had 3.2EE in your sig for like 2 weeks now, would be nice if you got it in a week or so... LMAO

Also, dont think jacking mem up to 3.6-3.8 volts automatically gives you a great overclock. I would suggest not making too many statements that you know nothing about, let alone ever made it to that.

:owned:

I am in agreement with mr. viggen, its a bit misleading to say you have something when you really dont.

SaturnTR
11-23-2003, 03:52 PM
Bro there's way more to getting to the top than just getting new toys and throwing a prommy on them...My quest to the top 10 has taken 3+ weeks so far and i am just now getting the CPU running. I havent even gotten the 9800XT here yet...Gonna be running r507 through the Mach I for the CPU, gotta change out cap tube tho...Anyways...man it's not as easy as you think, trust me. ;)

Jupiler
11-23-2003, 03:56 PM
Nice scores, FUGGER.

Looks like the DFI is treating you very well.
266, 1:1, 2.5-2-2-6 is damn' impressive. Would like to see some mem scores at that speed.

Jupiler
11-23-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by SaturnTR
Bro there's way more to getting to the top than just getting new toys and throwing a prommy on them...My quest to the top 10 has taken 3+ weeks so far and i am just now getting the CPU running. I havent even gotten the 9800XT here yet...Gonna be running r507 through the Mach I for the CPU, gotta change out cap tube tho...Anyways...man it's not as easy as you think, trust me. ;)

We all know that, but he doesn't. :D

Kanavit
11-23-2003, 07:24 PM
Fugger is going to need that xtra 500+ faster score with DFI , EE @ 4ghz + XT @stock when he reaches 29.3k to take down OP.

Creative
11-23-2003, 08:25 PM
Nice one Fugger, look forward to more results :thumbsup:

My EE arrives Wednesday, just paid for it today and its being shipped tomorrow. Finally get to see if this baby is unlocked or not. Im not really fussed if it is or not, but would be a bonus if it was :thumbsup:

as i said to OPP -

30K BABY!!!!! :toast:

Geforce4ti4200
11-23-2003, 08:44 PM
if your ee is unlocked, will this mean fugger will then run 3dmark at different multipliers then?

Creative
11-23-2003, 10:08 PM
Id say so, cos isnt he running it with the default 16x just to be equal playing grounds? ie default 3.2 EE and not the unlocked sample that it is?

Good sportsmanship if thats the case :thumbsup:

Geforce4ti4200
11-23-2003, 10:25 PM
I noticed one other guy was running at a lower multi and higher fsb however. in my opinion I dont consider it cheating, but a slightly unfair advantage

Creative
11-23-2003, 11:39 PM
If it was then you could say that Athlon chips changing multis is cheating too :p:
hehehehehe

mg84
11-24-2003, 04:29 AM
congratulation FUGGER for your work.
I have a question: which is the max oc (also not stable) that you can reach with your p4ee?

I hope my english is quite good :rolleyes:

Geforce4ti4200
11-24-2003, 04:36 AM
I think he can do 4.4GHz and its stable enough for 3dmark but his ram cant handle it so he runs about 4GHz

mg84
11-24-2003, 04:54 AM
I saw in the other 3ed that he reached 4.5 enough stable for pifast, but i want know the max oc speed (time enough for a screen and then the system crash)

Soulburner
11-24-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I think he can do 4.4GHz and its stable enough for 3dmark but his ram cant handle it so he runs about 4GHz
His 29.3k score is at 4.4Ghz, and its very stable...

ctgilles
11-24-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by SaturnTR
Bro there's way more to getting to the top than just getting new toys and throwing a prommy on them...My quest to the top 10 has taken 3+ weeks so far and i am just now getting the CPU running. I havent even gotten the 9800XT here yet...Gonna be running r507 through the Mach I for the CPU, gotta change out cap tube tho...Anyways...man it's not as easy as you think, trust me. ;)
I'm sorry, did I say anything about me doing that §§§§? Don't think so, you want to learn to read a bit better.... :rolleyes:
Oh, and I'll be very happy IF I even get to benching, I have way too much work :(
And by doing everything fast, I'll probably fry my XT etc etc
Murphy's law all the way :(
27k would be great tho' ;)
I'll let Jupiler do the benching :p: don't have time ;)

Hallowed
11-26-2003, 12:45 AM
ctgilles:

Do you have any idea how hard it is to actually read your posts with that avatar? :)

Geforce4ti4200
11-26-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Hallowed
ctgilles:

Do you have any idea how hard it is to actually read your posts with that avatar? :)


since I like heavier women, I consider her too thin for my tastes. she needs to put some weight on her. I should get an avator of a woman I find pretty and youd probably :slobber:

Kanavit
11-26-2003, 01:30 AM
just my 2 cents,

but i think if Fugger had the AthlonFX, 30k would have been broken weeks ago. not trying to take anything away from OPP, he did a great job imo.

Fugger gave AMD a helluva a run tho with the EE/ES/XE chip.

Hallowed
11-26-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
since I like heavier women, I consider her too thin for my tastes. she needs to put some weight on her. I should get an avator of a woman I find pretty and youd probably :slobber:

Okay. sure.

The only problem I see with the above pic is that shes blonde (I prefer brunettes.) Drop dead gorgeous body.

JCviggen
11-26-2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Hallowed
Okay. sure.

The only problem I see with the above pic is that shes blonde (I prefer brunettes.) Drop dead gorgeous body.

Im with GF4 on this one...

Which part is drop dead gorgeous?? She almost doesnt have any breast and the rest is skinny as hell...these days its considered hot when women have a male-like body apparently (narrow hips wide shoulders instead of vice versa)

But just to stay a BIT on topic here, Ill say that I think OPP will seriously increase his score when he slaps on Captain's Cascade. I dont see FUGGER catching him...but when macci gets his chip i think its all over with ;)

Hallowed
11-26-2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by JCviggen
Im with GF4 on this one...

Which part is drop dead gorgeous?? She almost doesnt have any breast and the rest is skinny as hell...these days its considered hot when women have a male-like body apparently (narrow hips wide shoulders instead of vice versa)

But just to stay a BIT on topic here, Ill say that I think OPP will seriously increase his score when he slaps on Captain's Cascade. I dont see FUGGER catching him...but when macci gets his chip i think its all over with ;)

JC if that strikes you as "male like" I'd recommend some eyelenses. ;)

And back OT, when is macci getting this chip?

FUGGER
11-26-2003, 02:51 AM
Hate to make you eat those words JC, but I am going to have to.

It took over 2 weeks to pass me and you guys think its ass whipping. He didnt go anywhere I cant reach.

I think the girl in the avatar is fine, looks like she had lip work done. none the less I would hit it.

JCviggen
11-26-2003, 02:58 AM
OPP you can reach...maybe...when OPP goes cascade like you are doing that will be another 500 pts or more.

If macci starts to bench...forget it...he will have 2 -100C cascades and nobody beats the Finn on equal equipment.

FUGGER
11-26-2003, 03:09 AM
I am sure macci will go nuts on us all.

ctgilles
11-26-2003, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by JCviggen
Im with GF4 on this one...

Which part is drop dead gorgeous?? She almost doesnt have any breast and the rest is skinny as hell
I have the Ché lying over here, shoe does have breasts, rather large when I look at those pics again ;)
As FUGGER said, I'd hit it :D But yeah, time to move on, I have other avatars just begging to be taken advantage from ;)
I'd hit Adriana Lima for sure :bananal:

I think FUGGER will be able to get OPP, but if his cascade discovers some extra MHz on that chip, FUGGER will need to find a whole lot of extra MHz on both GPU and CPU. But I'm sure FUGGER's up for it ;)
Btw, did you ship the goods? :) This time with all invoices? ;)

Turbo
11-26-2003, 10:09 AM
Fugger

Where's your AMD FX-51 chip? Whoop it out and slap it on your cascade system. Would be very interested in seeing that.

Iridium192_217
11-26-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by JCviggen
OPP you can reach...maybe...when OPP goes cascade like you are doing that will be another 500 pts or more.

If macci starts to bench...forget it...he will have 2 -100C cascades and nobody beats the Finn on equal equipment.

exactly what I think will happen too