View Full Version : Abit or Asus with 3.2C
Tomvill
11-19-2003, 09:36 PM
I currently have an Asus P4C 800 Deluxe with a 3.0C. this is in combination with 1 gig of OCZ PC4000-Gold ram . and 2 Raptors in a raid 0 now this combination won,t work with sub zero cooling and i,m going to buy a 3.2C. My question is which is the better mobo the one i have now or an Abit IC7-Max3 for this combination. The system will be cooled with a Mach II. Is it worth buying the Abit board and sell the asus. Also i,m not really familiar with abit boards ,do they have any problems that I should know about. Thanks.
Soulburner
11-19-2003, 09:49 PM
Stick with the ASUS.
CrashOv3r1De
11-20-2003, 10:31 AM
ASUS for sure. The MAX3 has TONS of problems. The dividers are screwed up and the vcore is all over the place above 2.8v. I was unable to get my 3.0C above 3.3Ghz w/ that mobo and the problem was not the cpu/ram/cooling
Craig
11-20-2003, 01:20 PM
Don't forget Epox, their new 875 board should do quite well. It won't need any vcore or vdimm mods. Should be as fast as a open class dragster.
Soulburner
11-20-2003, 01:55 PM
I agree, i'm actually going to try out the Epox 4PCA3+ 2.0 instead of the ASUS for a change.
climbski
11-20-2003, 03:52 PM
Since you run the risk of having a cpu that goes over 250FSB with that cooling..I'll recommend not getting the MAX 3
JoeBar
11-20-2003, 04:15 PM
My vote for asus too.
Iridium192_217
11-20-2003, 04:58 PM
Defintely stick with Asus, most stable mobo out there:up:
Tomvill
11-20-2003, 10:15 PM
The fact is i,m on my second asus board in 4 months . I,m going to rma the ocz ram on monday and buy a new 3.2C because the 3.2 EE is $1400 in canada. WOW. I,ve heard of some problems with the Abit boards the ram voltages are weird and unstable Vcore . When the 3.2 comes in and i have to remove the asus board for prommie install i,m going to do the Vcore and Vdimm mods you guys have here. If i have anymore problems I think maybe i,ll look at the new Epox boards. I cann,t rma this asus board they,ll be too many mods and i,ve heatsunk some of the power mosfets. Thanks for the info guys i,ll stear clear of the Abit boards and i,ll work on this asus board a little more.
CrashOv3r1De
11-21-2003, 10:38 AM
Iridium you mispelled definately
benonmsn
11-21-2003, 11:31 AM
p4c800.
the max 3 isnt as good as the asus
the epox isnt as good as the asus
the asus is the best choice, by far.. unless u only have 90 dollars, then get the epox.. but u get what u pay for
skate2snow
11-21-2003, 02:05 PM
man you have to go whit ASUS!!!! ive never think about Epox but they have good comments but just never!!!!never!!!!!!never!!!go whit MSI its very unstable
CrashOv3r1De
11-21-2003, 04:04 PM
the asus is the more stable/better built imho. so what if the max3 looks nicer...
if you plan to buy the max3 off a friend then by all means get it because if one of your friends had a "working" max3 then their better then the p4c dlx however if your getting it from a store then its better not to gfet it at all becuase you wont have no way to tell if its working/crap before you take it home. i got a max3 from excaliberpc.com and i couldnt get my 3.0c over 3.3 no matter what i did. meanwhile on a p4c dlx i had thatcppu @ 3.6ghz on air and so did dogman.
Tomvill
11-21-2003, 08:59 PM
I don,t know yet if the problem is with the asus board or not I hope not my cpu overclocked quite nicely on air with the asus board to 3.6 ghz but as soon as i hook up the prommie all hell breaks loose . The ram is being rma on monday but i don,t think that is the problem is their anyway the cpu could influence the test 7 of memtest 86 v3. with the asus board . Also I won,t buy any mobo on strictly price it has to be stable ,have the range of voltages that i need or at least be modifyable, and it must have the features i need. I wish i had another processor available to test it. If it turns out to be the mobo then i,m looking somewere other than asus just not sure were yet. Ocz seems to think its the board, I think its the CPU. I,ll find out soon enough.
Excuse me:
MAX3, OCZ PC4000 DUal gold 2 x512, Intel 3.2C Vapochill PE = 4080 PRIME95 Stable.
I dont know but this combination really works 4 me even if 99.9% other ppl with the same combination cant get it to work good at all.
Nebulous
11-22-2003, 11:01 AM
Sometimes there are "lucky" ones MnM, you are one of them.
This is my first P4 rig (sig) and so far i have to say that the Asus board has given me zero problems. Not one crash, bsod or incompatibility issues with any of my hardware. It was pretty much build, power on and overclock. I only wished my Abit NF7-s 2.0 was just as smooth from the start.
I vote Asus ;)
mrzee
11-25-2003, 05:12 AM
I guess I'm lucky too, my Max 3 is way faster than my P4C-800E,
and rock solid stable, no issues at all. I highly recommend the
IC7 Max 3.
snekker`n
11-28-2003, 08:43 AM
Well i have a Asus P4C 800-E and Abit Max # and the Max3 is the best
BBThumper
11-28-2003, 12:24 PM
.......I really don't think you can go wrong with either mobo........
Well, im thinking of getting myself an MAX3, but im not sure now as i read all the things you say about that MB.
Ther's only one thing. I read this test once of the ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, they tried to overclock with the MB and a 2.4C that could manage 3.6GHz with 1.55V on a IC7. They started overclocking, turned up the FSB a little at a time, untill they came to 3.3GHz with 1.7V!! I thought to my self, "oh my god! Im never buying this ASUS board"
the one who tested the MB said that the ASUS had some bad volt, and that the IC7 was mutch better!:rolleyes:
Soulburner
11-29-2003, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Gef
Well, im thinking of getting myself an MAX3, but im not sure now as i read all the things you say about that MB.
Ther's only one thing. I read this test once of the ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, they tried to overclock with the MB and a 2.4C that could manage 3.6GHz with 1.55V on a IC7. They started overclocking, turned up the FSB a little at a time, untill they came to 3.3GHz with 1.7V!! I thought to my self, "oh my god! Im never buying this ASUS board"
the one who tested the MB said that the ASUS had some bad volt, and that the IC7 was mutch better!:rolleyes:
The exact opposite has happened as well. CPUs that have done 300fsb and 3.6Ghz on stock voltage on an ASUS wouldn't make it past 270-280fsb on an Abit board.
Like I always say, no two pieces of hardware are created equal.
Tomvill
11-29-2003, 10:54 PM
What i,m seeing is that quality controls on these mobos is not very good. I understand that there,s alot of parts on these motherboards and there is definately going to be some variances. But i,m seeing huge variances in the stability and the overclockability of these boards. It,s really hit and miss with parts and so far i,ve been getting misses with my ram and mother boards.
Firelord-OCHW
11-30-2003, 03:47 AM
Why not look at the AI7?? Supposed to be a good board and prescott compatiable
Originally posted by Firelord-OCHW
Why not look at the AI7?? Supposed to be a good board and prescott compatiable Aren't the MAX3 also prescott compatible?
CrashOv3r1De
11-30-2003, 05:24 PM
yes max3 is prescott compatible
Jojo1971
12-02-2003, 11:25 PM
Iridium you mispelled definately
lol you did too.. it should be "definitely"....:toast:
BBThumper
12-03-2003, 09:38 AM
......hahahaha......
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