P45 or X48

[SpuTnicK]

Greetings to All!
After a year of troubleless work of my asus x38 maximus formula, i decidet to change it to something that can work ao OC well with quad CPUs (I am thinking of changing my e8400 C1 to q9550 E0) and high speed ram (like 1200Mhz, i allso think of changing 8 gigs of mushkin redline 1000mhz to 8 gigs of somethink like Ocz blade 1200 mhz low Voltage ram). I am planning to WC the mobo.
So i have found several candidates:
Dfi dk p45-t2rs
Dfi dk x48-t2rs
Asus maximus formula 2
What can you, People, suggest?
Thank You.

[radaja]

for the highest quadcore OC's,hands down gigabytes EP45-UD3r/UD3P.or EP45-extreme.
the UD3P/R does great with quads and 8gigs.still able to achieve very high OC's 500fsb and beyond

[Leeghoofd]

+1 for the Gigabytes, the UD3P is a solid performer with a quad, for X48 go flat out for the Rampage Extreme with DDR3, fastest platform around, but also one of the more expensive

[fatguy1992]

Same I vote for the UD3P/R. I have both, both of them can easy get 500FSB on my Q6600, so on a 45nm quad 525FSB shouldn't be too hard.

[zsamz_]

i just got the dfi dkp45+
i gotta say its much faster than the gigabut but trouble for 4 sticks @1200+
u need the ut p45 or the cheepo gigabut ud3p

[OC Nub]

I would go with the UD3P/R as others have said for a quad. Its the best board for quads and plenty of support on the UD3R/P thread. Just because the price isn't high doesn't mean its not a quality board, go check out the thread and see what kinda OC's people are getting.

[SpuTnicK]

Thanks, guys. Just like I thought. I've heard of a solid performance of Gigabyte P45 mobos, but i found the Gigabyte unreliable, cause of experience i and my friends have had with previous boards (965, p35, x38). And the other thing i don't like Gygabyte mobos is arrangment and color sheme of slots and plugs and sockets. Also i mentioned mobo WC, is there any good blocks that will fit it? Maybe a fullcover? I know anfitec has some, but it is pain in the @ss to get them.

[spinejam]

for the highest quadcore OC's,hands down gigabytes EP45-UD3r/UD3P.or EP45-extreme.
the UD3P/R does great with quads and 8gigs.still able to achieve very high OC's 500fsb and beyond

+1 :)

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I know you guys all like to think you UD3P's are god and they are the best boards in the world but the fact is the DFI p45 t2rsb+ is also among the top p45's on the market and IIRC it holds the P45 FSB WR (if it isnt the wr holder its within a very small margin)

dont think I be hating, the UD3P is an epic board, its just not the only epic one out there ;)

[ACE76]

I had great success with the DFI P45 DK Plus board and a quad (Q9650) even though it only had a 4 phase power system...I've heard nothing but good things about the Gigabyte boards currently and if I were building or upgrading now, I'd probably go with one of those.

[Leeghoofd]

I know you guys all like to think you UD3P's are god and they are the best boards in the world but the fact is the DFI p45 t2rsb+ is also among the top p45's on the market and IIRC it holds the P45 FSB WR (if it isnt the wr holder its within a very small margin)

dont think I be hating, the UD3P is an epic board, its just not the only epic one out there ;)

There's more to a board than the FSB WR, for daily usage that means absolutely nothing. Who cares for daily use about FSB that go way over 700FSB ? Is that a direct indication the board is a good performer ? Absolutely not, it might get spanked big time clock for clock on many benches by any other board out there. I had a biostar due to that FSB claim and I loathed it. Why ? because it wasn't a good allround board and died on me twice within a very brief period. The DFI DK T2RS + I had was a pleasure to work with, 640FSB for benches absolutly no biggie but so lacking in power in 3D on my version.

I was a big Asus fan before I had a the UD3P, no Asus boards got me that high with a quad without serious bios tinkering. The Gigabyte passed my previous personal records with ease out of the box. The Giga is well equiped out of the box and is a total other generation that cannot be compared with their previous releases.

Colour shemes are personal, but the UD3P isn't the united colours of Benetton design as before either...

[Sparda]

Depend on what you're planning to run the Q9550. If you just shooting for less than 500fsb those board are fine with quad. But if you're planning to run 500x8.5 go with the ep45 unless you like to scratch your head trying to figure it out how to make the Q9550 run stable with the those.

[xzulu]

for the highest quadcore OC's,hands down gigabytes EP45-UD3r/UD3P.or EP45-extreme.
the UD3P/R does great with quads and 8gigs.still able to achieve very high OC's 500fsb and beyond

My vote goes to the UD3P/R:up:

[EliTE22]

I know you guys all like to think you UD3P's are god and they are the best boards in the world but the fact is the DFI p45 t2rsb+ is also among the top p45's on the market and IIRC it holds the P45 FSB WR (if it isnt the wr holder its within a very small margin)

dont think I be hating, the UD3P is an epic board, its just not the only epic one out there ;)
mmm.. just because a mobo has a fsb wr doesnt means its a good all round mobo , case and point biostar tpower i45 had the WR fsb (maybe even still at 724mhz ) but its not that great with quads and suck with ram. but it does hold the q9550 :D WR lol but the next few below it are all on ud3 gigabyte mobos,
the point being just that fsb wr dont mean that much, not saying the dfl is a bad mobo, i really dont know if its good or not?? ive never used it.
but i do have a ud3p and i can do 560fsb+ with my q9550 and if u look in ud3 thread there a few really high clocks on q9550 and i also can run 4x dimms to 1300mhz :D esay
edit: mips has ud3 waterblocks

[zsamz_]

to me clocks for clocks really count
what does it matter 560fsb or 1300+
24/7 clocks is more important to me
if i'm gonna lose 300-500mbs on ram its :down:
angohilc been doin some crazy bandwidth with the dkp45+

[WaterFlex]

P45 is better for quads. For example, get the Maximus II Formula board.

[kagula323]

+1 UD3P :up:

[Chrono Detector]

I vote for a P45 board. Unless if your planning to do Crossfire and you want the full bandwidth and speed the x48 is for you, but I still suggest a P45 board. I have one and it works great, and its a Gigabyte too.

[SpuTnicK]

Well, after a succsesfull OC of my e8400 c1 running 100% stable @4000 mhz (8x500) with only 1.2Vcore and less stable @4500 mhz (9x500) with 1.37Vcore, i planto run quad at least at 8x500 24/7. About memory there are 2 ways: either with fsb:memory 5:6 ratio and 1200mhz@5-5-5-15 or with fsb:memory 1:1 ratio and 1000mhz@4-4-4-12
You can say, that is crazy, but that is what i want and it is real

[SpuTnicK]

And no SLI or Crossfire for me. It is useless, IMHO

[radaja]

Well, after a succsesfull OC of my e8400 c1 running 100% stable @4000 mhz (8x500) with only 1.2Vcore and less stable @4500 mhz (9x500) with 1.37Vcore, i planto run quad at least at 8x500 24/7. About memory there are 2 ways: either with fsb:memory 5:6 ratio and 1200mhz@5-5-5-15 or with fsb:memory 1:1 ratio and 1000mhz@4-4-4-12
You can say, that is crazy, but that is what i want and it is real

thats not crazy at all,and its easily done with the UD3P/R.that was my goal
too,and i did it.so no crossfire just get the UD3R model then

[YMAA]

There's more to a board than the FSB WR, for daily usage that means absolutely nothing. Who cares for daily use about FSB that go way over 700FSB ? Is that a direct indication the board is a good performer ? Absolutely not, it might get spanked big time clock for clock on many benches by any other board out there. I had a biostar due to that FSB claim and I loathed it. Why ? because it wasn't a good allround board and died on me twice within a very brief period. The DFI DK T2RS + I had was a pleasure to work with, 640FSB for benches absolutly no biggie but so lacking in power in 3D on my version.

QFT. A friend of mine on another forum had to replace a dying P5Q-Deluxe with a TPower P45 because that was all the Microcenter near him had...and he hates it. Even with an E8400 it wasn't 24/7 stable at the 500FSB his P5Q-Deluxe was running.

The P5Q-Deluxe is...ok. But I'd trade it in a heartbeat for an EP45-UD3P or EP45-Extreme.

EDIT: And the Maximus II Formula shouldn't even be considered. It seems to not even do well as the P5Q-Deluxe, its little brother.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

lol guys my only point wasnt the FSB wr, it was just to illustrate that its a really good board. I was fairly easily able to run 500fsb on my q9650 on a UTp45 t3rs and that board has absolutely terrible ram straps that dont work over 480 FSB ;)

the ddr2 p45 DFI boards are very good and they are also very reliable so do not count them out.

[moonSymph]

P45 will be the way to go.. DFI P45 DK T2RS Plus or Asus Maximus2 Formula or the Gigabyte P45 is good.. depends on how much budget you want to spend on the motherboard.. i would say the DFI Dk offer the best value for money.. but the bad point is lesser phase for cpu..(if you know how phase work you will know the difference is minimal.. well higher phase power for cpu is better if only it does not cost more =p)

[WaterFlex]

the ddr2 p45 DFI boards are very good and they are also very reliable so do not count them out.

but Asus MIIF is the best looking board ;)

[YMAA]

lol guys my only point wasnt the FSB wr, it was just to illustrate that its a really good board. I was fairly easily able to run 500fsb on my q9650 on a UTp45 t3rs and that board has absolutely terrible ram straps that dont work over 480 FSB ;)

the ddr2 p45 DFI boards are very good and they are also very reliable so do not count them out.

DFI boards don't strike me as reliable. A lot of friends have had problems with them...weird ones like a sound card not working in the DFI but working in another board (ASUS), CPU INIT errors, and trouble getting Windows installed due to the board not initializing boot order properly.

Granted I've never owned one (would like to though someday just to be a BIOS masochist), and you probably have more experience with them than I do, but after so many horror stories they just don't have a reputation for reliability. Not since the NF4 days anyway.

But DFI users are a different kind of fanboy (I use that term loosely). People have a bad experience with ASUS, they don't buy another ASUS board. People have a bad experience with Gigabyte, they don't buy another Gigabyte. When people have a bad experience with DFI, they keep buying more DFI. DFI users are unlike any other kind of user it seems. I don't know if they're just more able to take the glitches in stride or something, but there is something different about them.

[SpuTnicK]

@waterflex
That it because you have one?.. ;)

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

But DFI users are a different kind of fanboy (I use that term loosely). People have a bad experience with ASUS, they don't buy another ASUS board. People have a bad experience with Gigabyte, they don't buy another Gigabyte. When people have a bad experience with DFI, they keep buying more DFI. DFI users are unlike any other kind of user it seems. I don't know if they're just more able to take the glitches in stride or something, but there is something different about them.

Thats because the DFI BIOS is so good that once you use it you cant stand to use another in your life. Although the MSI GD70 I have at home really gives my DFI boards a run for their money as far as awesome BIOSes go.

[WaterFlex]

@waterflex
That it because you have one?.. ;)

Yep :)

[zsamz_]

Thats because the DFI BIOS is so good that once you use it you cant stand to use another in your life. Although the MSI GD70 I have at home really gives my DFI boards a run for their money as far as awesome BIOSes go.

:yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp:
all my dfi boards have takin alot of abuse 24/7 n they still alive
i was averaging 1 gigabut board rma every 6 weeks :rofl::rofl:
i like dfi best mostly for performance n bioses the quality build is just a bonus

[WrigleyVillain]

Thats because the DFI BIOS is so good that once you use it you cant stand to use another in your life.

Yep. 2 words. Oskar Wu.