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nge769
06-04-2009, 05:19 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=247&pictureid=575http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=247&pictureid=576

I was a little worried about the heat before i bought this board and as it turns out theres absolutely no heat issues with this board ,every thing is running cool, I'm very happy with this board.

Running 2X GTX295's in sli enabled mode ,with an asus D2x pcie sound card,and the 975EE 150Gig x2 raptors in raid0 all at stock settings ,i got 3k higher score than my
p6tv2, , with the same configuration ,for me thats a huge difference starting off!!:up::yepp:

The board layout has changed ,the nb,sb, and 2x nf200 are under a huge copper heatsink with a metal plate on top away from the CPU,that only barely gets warm to the touch at load.:up: I'm very happy with this board so far. The only thing is asus skimped out with a realtek lan .

I'm having difficulty uploading pics here , i have more but only accepts 600x600, got to resize everything.

Movieman
06-04-2009, 05:25 PM
You have a 975EE at stock settings and you actually said that here on XS?
Do you want me to delete this thread before people actually see that?:rofl:

billdavis
06-04-2009, 05:37 PM
yeah im grinding my teeth bro

ILikeCosmosS
06-04-2009, 05:39 PM
only 2 295s are you nuts

get your self 7(if i am correct on pcie slots) single pcb 295s watercooled and start folding :D

nge769
06-04-2009, 05:40 PM
You have a 975EE at stock settings and you actually said that here on XS?
Do you want me to delete this thread before people actually see that?:rofl:

lol, i just got it today just felling out the mobo before i start juicing it ,relax.

JohnMike
06-04-2009, 05:42 PM
You have a 975EE at stock settings and you actually said that here on XS?
Do you want me to delete this thread before people actually see that?:rofl:

I vote: 15 days ban!!... Wait!..... Only 2 pics?!.. Make it 20 days ban! :rofl:

:up:

Anemone
06-04-2009, 07:59 PM
Debating this vs the P6T6 Rev...

Temps were a concern, but you won't really know if it stays cool till you start to push it at least some.

Anemone
06-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Bet these all come with the B3 chipset update.

nge769
06-04-2009, 08:56 PM
Debating this vs the P6T6 Rev...

Temps were a concern, but you won't really know if it stays cool till you start to push it at least some.

Yeah your right , but I'm not the type to rush in and blast it right away, I just installed win64 setting everything up, backing up drives ,letting the thermal paste set in,playing couple of games, little burn in.

I'm sure movieman will chime in and bust my balls a little more:rolleyes:.

Anyway I'm tempted to pop off the heat sink to check the stepping ,or find out some other way,either way ill find out .

nge769
06-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Bet these all come with the B3 chipset update.

Just checked and can confirm its the B3 chipset!!:up:

nge769
06-04-2009, 10:23 PM
Just checked and can confirm its the B3 chipset!!:up:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=247&pictureid=577

Anemone
06-05-2009, 06:49 PM
MM does bust folks up - but he does it with a smile and a smack on the back, so it's all good. Can't tell you the number of times he's broken up heated fights by reminding us what the real important things are in life.

More and more I'm leaning to the P6T7. I like the blue anodized sinks on the revolution, but looks do not change the usefulness of the P6T7. USB 3.0 can be added via card. Intel LAN via a $30 card as well (btw - you might consider this if you don't want the Realtek stuff). Even SATA 3.0 could be added if you needed, or sound. There are a number of things that can all be dropped in, as long as you have the slots open to do it. Sure, the 200's add latency, but not tons, and most of these add in devices aren't going to care if the 200's are doing switching behind the scenes. I'm not positive that's true of the sound card which is more latency sensitive, but we'll see on that.

Thanks for letting us know how things are goin.

Ashraf
06-05-2009, 06:55 PM
MM does bust folks up - but he does it with a smile and a smack on the back, so it's all good. Can't tell you the number of times he's broken up heated fights by reminding us what the real important things are in life.

Indeed. :up:

nge769
06-14-2009, 12:06 PM
Just a Little OC...of the CPU only just to get a feel of the board, ht on , turbo off and my temps are cooler than what i thought they would be. The board
under volts a tad, 1.320vcore (on load) for almost 4.2 gigs with temps of only 36c On air!!:up:. this board is very stable. Also, I didn't juice my video cards yet but ill get to it later on .Well I'm very happy with this board so far and if i had to do it again i would definitely buy it again!! :)couple pics of my rig too.



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kgk
06-14-2009, 12:48 PM
Can you post the NB/chipset temps? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this board but I want to know how well the board cooling works.

nge769
06-14-2009, 02:28 PM
Can you post the NB/chipset temps? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this board but I want to know how well the board cooling works.

Well in the bios the mobo temp is 36c , but as far as the NB there seems to be no reading on it in bios , i did touch it with my hand and it was barely warm to the touch. To know for sure i would need to put a temp probe on the sink. I'm not sure if theres a sensor in the NB like the RIIE , but when i had the RIIE i remember the NB sink was hot to the touch .

Anyone know of any utilities sofware for the NB temps??

RobPuba
06-14-2009, 03:13 PM
Nice Setup....... Enjoy :up:

kgk
06-15-2009, 02:44 AM
Well in the bios the mobo temp is 36c , but as far as the NB there seems to be no reading on it in bios , i did touch it with my hand and it was barely warm to the touch. To know for sure i would need to put a temp probe on the sink. I'm not sure if theres a sensor in the NB like the RIIE , but when i had the RIIE i remember the NB sink was hot to the touch .

Anyone know of any utilities sofware for the NB temps??

Download Everest. I think they have a free demo version. I'm really anxious to pull the trigger on this board but I'm worried about the cooling solution. But hey, if it works, who am I do judge. Doesn't matter if the NB gets hot as long as that cooling solution is able to dissipate the heat efficiently.

I'm curious how hot the NB/chipset gets when running 4Ghz on the CPU and whether that cooling solution is able to keep it cool enough. Would like to use this in a 24/7 4Ghz.

Watercooling that sucker would be a b*tch though..O_o.... I don't even think a one piece block like the EK Classified block would be possible. You'd need a whole bunch of little blocks thanks to the two NF200's

Logos
06-15-2009, 04:04 AM
You have a 975EE at stock settings and you actually said that here on XS?
Do you want me to delete this thread before people actually see that?:rofl:

:D:rofl::rofl::rofl: then ask me why I love this forum ;)

Fire4Wire
06-15-2009, 07:43 AM
Just checked and can confirm its the B3 chipset!!:up:


check CPU-Z and Everest they Display B2 Stepping

nge769
06-15-2009, 08:51 AM
check CPU-Z and Everest they Display B2 Stepping

Yeah i know everest and CPU's says b2 and Sandra says b3 , so like i said popping off heat sink (its a big sink)is probably only way to confirm.

BTW, i see you have this board also, how do you like it?did you find out the temps on NB?

Fire4Wire
06-16-2009, 01:10 PM
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RobPuba
06-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Just Install Mine......... And Loving It :up::up::up:

nge769
06-20-2009, 06:44 PM
Just Install Mine......... And Loving It :up::up::up:


Congrats and welcome to the club :clap:, Its a nice board and is rock solid for me so far and love the layout.
I like the way they moved the chipset away from the CPU to make room for the 7 pcie slots :):up:. My 1st video card is a lot cooler becuase of it.

Fire4Wire
06-21-2009, 12:58 AM
new Everest Version that fully supports p6t7

http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestultimate_build_1771_bcsr4dmn9qx.zip


:up:

nge769
06-21-2009, 08:48 AM
new Everest Version that fully supports p6t7

http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestultimate_build_1771_bcsr4dmn9qx.zip


:up:

Thanks man,BTW i see your running 0303 bios ,i don't see it on asus site.

Got a link or where to DL from.?..Thanks

Fire4Wire
06-21-2009, 08:49 AM
its for testing purpose only i got it internal from asus germany

nge769
06-21-2009, 08:58 AM
its for testing purpose only i got it internal from asus germany

Oh, i hope they fix sleep issue because i didn't have that problem with the
p6t deluxe v2 or the RIIE. What are the changes/fix with the new bios?

kgk
06-21-2009, 09:04 AM
Can you post the chipset temps now that you have a working Everest version? I really want to see how well that cools with NB and two NF200 chips. I can't see that thing running 4.4-4.5Ghz 24/7 stable with that stock cooling solution. It has to get tremendously hot even at only 4Ghz.

nge769
06-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Can you post the chipset temps now that you have a working Everest version? I really want to see how well that cools with NB and two NF200 chips. I can't see that thing running 4.4-4.5Ghz 24/7 stable with that stock cooling solution. It has to get tremendously hot even at only 4Ghz.

I always had everest among other programs , it doesn't display the NB temps.
You would need a temp probe and physically place it on NB to tell, as far as i know theres no sensor there..Read my posts.

burningrave101
06-21-2009, 11:44 AM
So what do you guys think of this board so far in comparison to the other top X58 boards? Is it the best? Better overclocker than the eVGA X58 Classified and Asus Rampage II? I'm looking for some reviews before I consider throwing down $450 on it for my Xeon W3520 but I like Asus' workstation boards because they're usually very solid. The multiple PCI-E slots will likely be of little use to me though at the moment since I'll never run more than dual SLI or Crossfire and right now I will be installing a single card 4870 1GB unless I keep my HD4870x2.

nascasho
06-21-2009, 12:30 PM
So what do you guys think of this board so far in comparison to the other top X58 boards? Is it the best? Better overclocker than the eVGA X58 Classified and Asus Rampage II? I'm looking for some reviews before I consider throwing down $450 on it for my Xeon W3520 but I like Asus' workstation boards because they're usually very solid. The multiple PCI-E slots will likely be of little use to me though at the moment since I'll never run more than dual SLI or Crossfire and right now I will be installing a single card 4870 1GB unless I keep my HD4870x2.



I want to say the Classified would OC better because the newer ones got rid of that nf200 chip. Heard nothing but complaints about it and EVGA released one w/o that chip because of heat/ and OC'ing ability i think.

This board got two of them... Good for SLI/Crossfire performance, MAY be a little worse for OC'ing that the Classified.

I won't say that either is better because I've never tried either to give ya a good benchy. Both boards seem like they'll hit 4.2Ghz to 4.5Ghz w/o any effort.

kgk
06-21-2009, 01:10 PM
Read my posts.

I did, including the one you quote saying that Everest supports the board now, which came after our previous exchange regarding board temps. Or are you saying that Everest supports every single measurement on the board except chipset temps for some bizarre reason?

kgk
06-21-2009, 01:13 PM
I won't say that either is better because I've never tried either to give ya a good benchy. Both boards seem like they'll hit 4.2Ghz to 4.5Ghz w/o any effort.

I don't doubt that but I'm worried about chipset temps.

The Classified has a monstrous cooling solution that still gets hot and only has/had one NF200. The P6T7 has two NF200's and what seems like much less heat dissipation ability with that stock chipset cooler.

nge769
06-21-2009, 01:46 PM
I did, including the one you quote saying that Everest supports the board now, which came after our previous exchange regarding board temps. Or are you saying that Everest supports every single measurement on the board except chipset temps for some bizarre reason?

Well, i don't see it , maybe I'm blind or something, it only shows CPU,Board,GPU,GPUmem. A couple of other people have this board too maybe they can chime in.

kgk
06-21-2009, 01:53 PM
Well, i don't see it , maybe I'm blind or something,.

Quite possible. It's at the top of this page

nge769
06-21-2009, 01:57 PM
I don't doubt that but I'm worried about chipset temps.

The Classified has a monstrous cooling solution that still gets hot and only has/had one NF200. The P6T7 has two NF200's and what seems like much less heat dissipation ability with that stock chipset cooler.

Different layout Chips been moved away from between CPU and hot video card

even the 760 is very hot.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2598/p6t7wssupercomputer.jpg

nge769
06-21-2009, 02:13 PM
Quite possible. It's at the top of this page

:rofl::rofl::ROTF: I did download it and install ..and AGAIN it doesn't list NB temps.!! WTF lol

kgk
06-21-2009, 03:51 PM
:rofl::rofl::ROTF: I did download it and install ..and AGAIN it doesn't list NB temps.!! WTF lol

Damn that sucks. I just can't see that being a good 24/7 4-4.5 Ghz platform with that cooling solution.

nge769
06-21-2009, 04:24 PM
Damn that sucks. I just can't see that being a good 24/7 4-4.5 Ghz platform with that cooling solution.

My motherboard temps are 34c and when i owned the RIIE they were 39-42c,
You do the math!! Not all the mobos come with Chipset sensor, you use MB temp as base for CS temp.

The reason you cant see it, is because you don't own it , but i could see, because i do own it and it runs 4.2 24-7 rock solid :rofl::ROTF:

Now, if your gonna come here making assumptions and trolling without even
owning this board, then please don't bother posting on this thread!!

kgk
06-21-2009, 05:25 PM
My motherboard temps are 34c and when i owned the RIIE they were 39-42c,
You do the math!! Not all the mobos come with Chipset sensor, you use MB temp as base for CS temp.

The reason you cant see it, is because you don't own it , but i could see, because i do own it and it runs 4.2 24-7 rock solid

Now, if your gonna come here making assumptions and trolling without even
owning this board, then please don't bother posting on this thread!!

What? I'm only trying to assess the cooling performance of the stock solution before plunking down a crazy amount of money for a motherboard to find out that it has heat issues. I realize I cannot physically see it. It's a figure of speech.

I was simply stating that without accurate chipset temps it's hard to tell how well it's cooling and since there is no temp information I was basing a guess off the size of the heatpipe cooler. You saying "feels warm" is not a measurement. Using motherboard temp as a base for chipset temp isn't accurate at all. You can have a motherboard temp in the 30's and have a NB that's on fire. Particularly when the cooling solution is passive and you start adding volts.

Lighten up, Francis. I was only saying that I'm amazed at the complete lack of discussion on any forum about the stock cooling solution for this considering the board is likely putting out more heat than any board before it yet seems to have a rather miniscule heatpipe solution. It's blatantly obvious the board is a good performer, but I'm interested in the one thing that might be its achilles heel. Although somehow everyone seems keen to tip toe around that issue.

Also, it's you're. your =/= you are.

nge769
06-21-2009, 08:44 PM
Also, it's you're. your =/= you are.[/QUOTE]

OK, you win the spelling B..lol.

Anyway when i bought this board nobody owned it and i took a chance, so i know how you feel, heat was my main concern too.

For me everything turned out great (thank god, $450 is a Lotta beans )
and i would buy it again.

The RIIE is a good board and love the bios on it,but with 2 GTX295's butt up
against each other my temps were 10c higher on those cards , not to mention they sat right on top of the NB that created more heat .

No board is Perfect, thats life.

BTW, I'm getting a temperature probe this week , cause i really want to know
the numbers on the CS , so if you can wait , ill let ya know.:)

Fire4Wire
06-22-2009, 12:31 AM
this board has NO chip or sensor to read out chipset temps

kgk
06-22-2009, 01:04 AM
Anyway when i bought this board nobody owned it and i took a chance, so i know how you feel, heat was my main concern too.

For me everything turned out great (thank god, $450 is a Lotta beans )
and i would buy it again.

The RIIE is a good board and love the bios on it,but with 2 GTX295's butt up
against each other my temps were 10c higher on those cards , not to mention they sat right on top of the NB that created more heat .

No board is Perfect, thats life.

BTW, I'm getting a temperature probe this week , cause i really want to know
the numbers on the CS , so if you can wait , ill let ya know.:)

Thanks. I'm just honestly surprised that stock cooling solution works that well, particularly for overclocking. You see these massive heatsinks on other boards with 1 NF200 or none at all and they still get hot. Then you see this massive board with two NF200's on it and such a low profile heatsink and have to wonder :shrug:

But hey, if it works it works. Making a waterblock for that board would be a b*tch though. :rofl:

Here's another question though. Do you have any problems with RAM in the last or second to last slot getting warmer with one of the heatpipes ending right next to it?

nge769
06-22-2009, 08:41 AM
Thanks. I'm just honestly surprised that stock cooling solution works that well, particularly for overclocking. You see these massive heatsinks on other boards with 1 NF200 or none at all and they still get hot. Then you see this massive board with two NF200's on it and such a low profile heatsink and have to wonder :shrug:

But hey, if it works it works. Making a waterblock for that board would be a b*tch though. :rofl:

Here's another question though. Do you have any problems with RAM in the last or second to last slot getting warmer with one of the heatpipes ending right next to it?

None , but i just put the memory fan on top for extra precaution and adds more cooling to sink next to 3rd slot .

Yeah i agree, making a water block would be a challenge, but doable.

When i get my temp probe and find that temps are stupid high ,I will pull the
sink off to check for good contact and go from there. ;)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3193/img0795f.jpg

Fire4Wire
06-23-2009, 01:09 AM
shoot some pics when you pull of the heatsink and look if its b3 step

nge769
06-23-2009, 02:13 PM
I'm Shocked..to say the least,ASUS obviously did their homework and learned off the classified NB/CS heat issues and changed the layout of this board:up::up: I took a ride to Micro center and picked up a Scythe KS01
fan controller + thermal sensor probe, Spent $10 more cause i couldn't wait for on line purchase !

My room temps are 22c/72f.

Pic of installation/placement of probe
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8089/heatprobe.jpg

Temps on idle for an hour..
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8639/heatprobeidle.jpg

Temps running on load, running 3dmark vantage, Quad SLI ..:shocked:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6169/heatprobeload.jpg

This is the reply i got from ASUS tech support ( I asked about CS temp)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6045/asusemail.jpg

With these temps I'm not going to touch the heat sink, and not even look at it the wrong way :ROTF:... Just unbelievable!! i thought the temps would be good, but not this good:up::clap:.

crashmax
06-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Hi P6T7 Owners

Great Board it seems! Can somebody make RAM Speed testing with everest please? Will buy this board for FSX.

Thanks

Elusid
06-24-2009, 12:25 AM
only 2 295s are you nuts

get your self 7(if i am correct on pcie slots) single pcb 295s watercooled and start folding :D

I've heard a few people joke about this but has it ever been done? It seems possible, not for gaming really but it would be a great folding rig.

nge769
06-24-2009, 08:20 AM
I've heard a few people joke about this but has it ever been done? It seems possible, not for gaming really but it would be a great folding rig.

I use this board for everything ,exclusively for gaming (codwaw,cod4)Max settings , slaps games around like its nothing:yepp:..thinking of buying Dedicated physx 9800gt (slot 7) but at this point not really needed.

illuminatiASUS
06-24-2009, 08:50 AM
That is a great setup you have running. Glad to read you are enjoying ( always interested in seeing what you guys do with our boards ). Can I know what type of sleep issue it is you are having? Additionally prior to checking with everest was there a reason you did not us PC Probe software that is designed and bundled with the board?

nge769
06-24-2009, 10:47 AM
That is a great setup you have running. Glad to read you are enjoying ( always interested in seeing what you guys do with our boards ). Can I know what type of sleep issue it is you are having? Additionally prior to checking with everest was there a reason you did not us PC Probe software that is designed and bundled with the board?

Thank you illuminatiASUS, for me i use other software for my needs ,only thing i use is turbo v for reference only ( all settings are done directly from bios).

As far as the sleep issue is concerned,it sleeps fine but waking up takes some time ,my keyboard and mouse seems like there looking for irq placement ,and finally when they connect i get screen flickering till i reboot
and everything is fine again.Vista is known to have problems with sleep mode.For me, i don't use sleep mode on desktops, only laptops. For other people thats a different story though. Other than that this is the best mobo Ive owned(and i have owned many since the 286 days)and definitely recomend it to anyone looking for the latest and greatest.:up:

BTW.. whens the new bios coming out ?

nge769
06-24-2009, 09:23 PM
I decided to move the temp probe and place it under the heat sink near the
CS and temps seemed to change 5c.

My results..Room temp 22.7C

Idle 38.5
Load 41.0

Seems to me without the memory fan cooling off the heat pipe these temps would be higher. So for air cooling, its still very good.

crashmax
06-25-2009, 10:37 AM
My P6T7 should arrive tomorrow :clap:

nascasho
06-25-2009, 10:41 AM
Man that board is a beast!

nge769
06-27-2009, 07:22 AM
My P6T7 should arrive tomorrow :clap:

Hello and congrats on the new board,let me know how your making out with it.

burningrave101
06-27-2009, 08:31 AM
nge769 have you done any testing to see what your max BCLK is on this board? I'm wondering how it compares in overclocking to the Classified.

nge769
06-27-2009, 09:38 AM
nge769 have you done any testing to see what your max BCLK is on this board? I'm wondering how it compares in overclocking to the Classified.

Not really ,got it up to 200 or so, but don't really need too because I'm running the 975 and multi is unlocked ( I'm not looking to brake any records).Thats only for peeps with 920,I'm surprised nobody chimed in yet with there results.

crashmax
06-27-2009, 12:43 PM
nge769 have you done any testing to see what your max BCLK is on this board? I'm wondering how it compares in overclocking to the Classified.

I will test this for sure, as I have a 920 D0 and W3540 as well.

BUUUTTT my P6T7 is unfortunately coming on Monday and not yesterday as the shop has promised. And I payd extra for this so called "express delivery"!

ACE76
06-27-2009, 05:00 PM
I use this board for everything ,exclusively for gaming (codwaw,cod4)Max settings , slaps games around like its nothing:yepp:..thinking of buying Dedicated physx 9800gt (slot 7) but at this point not really needed.

I think your good gaming comes from the 295s not the motherboard...you don't need a board with two nf200s to achieve the gaming level you currently have as any of the x58s with two x16 slots would provide the same level of gaming...adding another card for physics wouldn't even need a full x16.

I hope someone here can give us some more accurate temps...this badboy has gotta be hot...hopefully we will see more B3 chipset boards soon too.

RobPuba
06-27-2009, 06:04 PM
I think your good gaming comes from the 295s not the motherboard...you don't need a board with two nf200s to achieve the gaming level you currently have as any of the x58s with two x16 slots would provide the same level of gaming...adding another card for physics wouldn't even need a full x16.

I hope someone here can give us some more accurate temps...this badboy has gotta be hot...hopefully we will see more B3 chipset boards soon too.

I'm using the 260 on my board and the gaming is awesome...... no lags at all.

nge769
06-27-2009, 08:26 PM
I think your good gaming comes from the 295s not the motherboard...you don't need a board with two nf200s to achieve the gaming level you currently have as any of the x58s with two x16 slots would provide the same level of gaming...adding another card for physics wouldn't even need a full x16.

I hope someone here can give us some more accurate temps...this badboy has gotta be hot...hopefully we will see more B3 chipset boards soon too.

Like i said before this board scored 3k higher than the p6tDeluxe V2 on vantage with same config :rolleyes: temps on video cards is, idle 45c load 51!! The slot config is better , the layout is better ,Thats why i bought this board!!

The latest temps i gave with my configuration are the best your gonna get.
Again, this board DOES NOT come with a north bridge sensor,The probe i wedged underneath the heatsink and mobo near the CS is very accurate and temps are consistent, If you know a better way , I'm all ears.

From what i hear slots 1234 on 1st nf200, 567 on 2nd nf200.

When i first got this board i experimented with cards on slots 1 and 3 and board and cards were hotter.

Go to you tube and see the review of the classified where they used the probe to test the temps of the CS, it was very accurate compared to the
on board sensor.

ACE76
06-28-2009, 08:20 PM
Like i said before this board scored 3k higher than the p6tDeluxe V2 on vantage with same config :rolleyes:

That's what I'm confused about...your other board was running two x16 slots and even though your new board has more true x16 slots, just having better temps/layout can't up your score 3k points (unless some good overclocking was done)...I'm guessing your previous set-up either had a defect or maybe SLI wasn't enabled? There's just no way your scores could have gone up 3k points simply by swapping motherboards...especially since both are x58 boards and both utilized 2 x16 lanes for the videocards. Do you have any SS of these runs?

I'm trying to decide between this and a Classified right now...hopefully some of you guys who have this board already can start posting some screenies of what it's capable of (especially since heat is apparently not an issue).

nge769
06-28-2009, 09:06 PM
That's what I'm confused about...your other board was running two x16 slots and even though your new board has more true x16 slots, just having better temps/layout can't up your score 3k points (unless some good overclocking was done)...I'm guessing your previous set-up either had a defect or maybe SLI wasn't enabled? There's just no way your scores could have gone up 3k points simply by swapping motherboards...especially since both are x58 boards and both utilized 2 x16 lanes for the videocards. Do you have any SS of these runs?

I'm trying to decide between this and a Classified right now...hopefully some of you guys who have this board already can start posting some screenies of what it's capable of (especially since heat is apparently not an issue).

I never said my temps had anything to do with my score , thats number 1.
2, I had two deluxe v2 boards = same results , probably because i used a pci sound card on slot 3.But the RIIE i owned scored only 600 points less or so compared to p6t7, so that was fine.
3, I know the difference between sli and non sli ,and that wasn't the issue :ROTF:.

Listen , i don't work for asus , or am i a fanboy , actually this is the first time i used asus boards, and Ive been doing this for 20 years.

Hey,buy the classified , its more up your alley

BTW 2XGTX295's run in quad sli not sli.

PatRaceTin
06-28-2009, 11:27 PM
wow i can not afford that price!!!

crashmax
06-29-2009, 06:16 AM
:welcome: to see my new P6T7 Supercomputer Part1.

In Part2 I will do some overclocking with my W3540 and 920 D0.

Here are the Pictures:

RIIE must go...

http://www.abload.de/thumb/p6t7_arrivedtjbo.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=p6t7_arrivedtjbo.jpg)

The P6T7 WS SuperComputer

http://www.abload.de/thumb/mobok7io.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=mobok7io.jpg)

My Case (Cooler Master Cosmos) likes this Mobo. One more GTX280 is waiting for SLI

http://www.abload.de/thumb/fits_perfectlycjnj.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=fits_perfectlycjnj.jpg)

This are the Pictures and now I will do some overclocking and benchmarks...

crashmax
06-29-2009, 06:56 AM
As always. Don't expect to much from the first BIOS Version (0210)

W3540:
- there are no options to set uncore and qpi Link speed. Thought this is a Workstation Board???
- On RIIE my W3540 boots til 222BCLK, on P6T7 210 was the end :eek:

920 D0:
- Aaaahhhh, all OC-Options are available!
- On RIIE my D0 boots til 231BCLK, on P6T7 215 seems tricky :shakes:

And for the Chipset heat, my sensor show my no more than 54C on load (room 27C). Buuuut, I hardly can touch the heatsink.....

Will do some more tests and hope that a new BIOS will arrive soon!

Dahmer
06-29-2009, 06:58 AM
MM does bust folks up - but he does it with a smile and a smack on the back, so it's all good. Can't tell you the number of times he's broken up heated fights by reminding us what the real important things are in life.Sex, beer and rock n roll?

@nge769 :
The 3k increase in score just from getting another mobo really confuse me too.... *scratches head*

nge769
06-29-2009, 07:24 AM
As always. Don't expect to much from the first BIOS Version (0210)

W3540:
- there are no options to set uncore and qpi Link speed. Thought this is a Workstation Board???
- On RIIE my W3540 boots til 222BCLK, on P6T7 210 was the end :eek:

920 D0:
- Aaaahhhh, all OC-Options are available!
- On RIIE my D0 boots til 231BCLK, on P6T7 215 seems tricky :shakes:

And for the Chipset heat, my sensor show my no more than 54C on load (room 27C). Buuuut, I hardly can touch the heatsink.....

Will do some more tests and hope that a new BIOS will arrive soon!

Wow 27c room temps thats 81f :eek: , thats hot, you need some ac lol, my room is 22c. Also try putting a memory fan on , it cools the heat sink-pipe next to it
that will bring down your CS temps .

I think the new bios 0410 should be coming out soon.

Nice setup and looking forward to future results :)

BTW, are you saying your 920 is unlocked ?

nge769
06-29-2009, 07:46 AM
Sex, beer and rock n roll?

@nge769 :
The 3k increase in score just from getting another mobo really confuse me too.... *scratches head*

Hi dahmer , I was also scratching my head as to why the p6t deluxe v2 scored less,(probably sound card dropped one card to 8X) so i got rid of it and bought the RIIE (great board btw)which gave good results, but the video cards ran hotter (butt up against each other)so got rid of that too, and here i am now:).If the RIIE came with a better slot layout it woulda been a keeper;)

crashmax
06-29-2009, 07:46 AM
Wow 27c room temps thats 81f :eek: , thats hot, you need some ac lol, my room is 22c. Also try putting a memory fan on , it cools the heat sink-pipe next to it
that will bring down your CS temps .

I think the new bios 0410 should be coming out soon.

Nice setup and looking forward to future results :)

BTW, are you saying your 920 is unlocked ?


Hi,

Have already a 120mm FAN on Memory.

No, max multi is 21, but can change uncore and QPI-Link speed in BIOS witch is not possible with the W3540.

Outside Temp is 31C :p:

Do you have any beta BIOS yet?

crashmax
06-29-2009, 08:15 AM
Need 0.08 less VCore! That's pretty good! :up:

nge769
06-29-2009, 08:16 AM
Hi,

Have already a 120mm FAN on Memory.

No, max multi is 21, but can change uncore and QPI-Link speed in BIOS witch is not possible with the W3540.

Outside Temp is 31C :p:

Do you have any beta BIOS yet?

No, i wish i did have the beta bios .

Yeah i see your top fans from the pic, if you have a memory fan try it out , cause it has more pressure and sits right on top of it.

I also noticed you placed you sensor probe on top of heat sink , I think ill give that a try and see what results i get.

crashmax
06-29-2009, 08:31 AM
No, i wish i did have the beta bios .

Yeah i see your top fans from the pic, if you have a memory fan try it out , cause it has more pressure and sits right on top of it.

I also noticed you placed you sensor probe on top of heat sink , I think ill give that a try and see what results i get.

This is my final (Fan) Setup.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/final_setupcqsi.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=final_setupcqsi.jpg)

Prime is now running since 30 minutes and the sensor shows me 57C.

nge769
06-29-2009, 09:47 AM
I moved temp probe to where you have it .

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3328/probeontop.jpg

Room temps 22c ..this is on idle..

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/764/idleprobeontop.jpg

Load..

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/210/loadprobeontop.jpg


Seems to me that having the probe under the heatsink instead of on top of it has more accurate results for me (4c higher)so im putting it back.

its 70F in my room , your at 81F+ :p:

crashmax
06-29-2009, 11:32 AM
Thank you!

How high is the BCLK and are QPI, IOH and ICH Voltages? My BCLK is 215.

ACE76
06-29-2009, 12:20 PM
I never said my temps had anything to do with my score , thats number 1.
2, I had two deluxe v2 boards = same results , probably because i used a pci sound card on slot 3.But the RIIE i owned scored only 600 points less or so compared to p6t7, so that was fine.
3, I know the difference between sli and non sli ,and that wasn't the issue :ROTF:.

Listen , i don't work for asus , or am i a fanboy , actually this is the first time i used asus boards, and Ive been doing this for 20 years.

Hey,buy the classified , its more up your alley

BTW 2XGTX295's run in quad sli not sli.

20 years of building PCs and you are trying to say you lost 3k points on Vantage because you used a PCI soundcard on slot 3?

I'll be the one to decide which board is up my alley and please don't talk to me in this condescending manner. I just asked you some simple questions which you apparently can't answer so just leave it at that. I'll just wait and hope some of the other people here who have the board can actually post something valuable about the board rather than just show off that they own it.

nge769
06-29-2009, 01:08 PM
20 years of building PCs and you are trying to say you lost 3k points on Vantage because you used a PCI soundcard on slot 3?

I'll be the one to decide which board is up my alley and please don't talk to me in this condescending manner. I just asked you some simple questions which you apparently can't answer so just leave it at that. I'll just wait and hope some of the other people here who have the board can actually post something valuable about the board rather than just show off that they own it.

You asked, i answered , theres no mystery here .The p6t7 did it and the RIIE did it , the p6t D v2 board is gone , Ive moved on, end of story,what is there to know?:rolleyes: Check with the p6t deluxe v2 thread maybe they can hellp you out.

nge769
06-29-2009, 01:22 PM
Thank you!

How high is the BCLK and are QPI, IOH and ICH Voltages? My BCLK is 215.

166X25
QPI 1.25
Dram 1.54
IOH 1.10
ICH 1.1

List all your bios specs, timings, volts, everything, ill try to replicate it on my board to see what kind of temps i get..Thanks

burningrave101
06-29-2009, 01:48 PM
I wish you guys would hurry up and decide whether or not this board is the stuff or not for overclocking compared to the Classified because my 760 is here and I haven't opened it yet thinking I may get a different board lol. I'm considering picking up the Asus R2E instead of using this Classified but I don't know if I will. I've kind of gotten a sour taste in my money for eVGA after all these RMA issues I've seen people having lately.

nge769
06-29-2009, 02:30 PM
I wish you guys would hurry up and decide whether or not this board is the stuff or not for overclocking compared to the Classified because my 760 is here and I haven't opened it yet thinking I may get a different board lol. I'm considering picking up the Asus R2E instead of using this Classified but I don't know if I will. I've kind of gotten a sour taste in my money for eVGA after all these RMA issues I've seen people having lately.

Yeah i read about the guy with the melted socket on evga forums lol.

RIIE is a good board , a little toasty but good.
Classified from what i hear clocks good , but very toasty.
P6t7 is a new board, so not proven yet,needs bios update ,but not as toasty
as the other two.

I think theres a you tube video on the p6t7 with it clocked to 4.5 with 3-way sli + physx.

If you don't plan on using multiple cards , then id get the RIIE.

blaxtr3m3
06-29-2009, 03:27 PM
any cold boot issues with this board?

ACE76
06-29-2009, 03:52 PM
Can someone post some SS of anything this board can do...someone said they got 215 bclk...that's a good first indication and the board is still on initial bios...if someone can do over 220 bclk passing linx, I'm sold.

crashmax
06-30-2009, 12:25 AM
166X25
QPI 1.25
Dram 1.54
IOH 1.10
ICH 1.1

List all your bios specs, timings, volts, everything, ill try to replicate it on my board to see what kind of temps i get..Thanks


This will be very nice of you! :up:

I'll post my Settings this evening (aprox. 09:30AM)

crashmax
06-30-2009, 12:45 AM
Patience! :D This is a brand new mobo with initial BIOS.

After one day I can say, that this P6T7 is rock solid and that the CPU needs 0.08 VCore less as on my RIIE and that is very very good!

Furthermore, the system boots much faster than with RIIE, there is no cold boot issue (in my case) and the overall performance feels better (smooth, no lag) while loading programs and playing games.

This evening I will run Vantage to compare the P6T7 with my RIIE.

The only two things that concerns me are max BCLK and the heat (shows 57C but feels much hotter???, but hey, it is stable!!) of the NF200. In case of the max BCLK I’m sure that new BIOS releases will fix this!

For all my Tests I'm using exactly (switchting from one mobo to the other) the same CPU and Memory as on my RIIE!

Best wishes!

RNeon
06-30-2009, 09:04 AM
nice board :)

so what is the max BCLK so far?

davewolfs
06-30-2009, 09:45 AM
Does S3 Resume work on this board?

nge769
06-30-2009, 10:01 AM
Does S3 Resume work on this board?

yeah, dint use it much but when i tested, it hangs for a Little while.
Still waiting on new bios.

crashmax
06-30-2009, 10:21 AM
Hi nge769

This are the stable BIOS settings:

http://www.abload.de/thumb/bios010h2f.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bios010h2f.jpg)

http://www.abload.de/thumb/bios02aipw.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bios02aipw.jpg)

http://www.abload.de/thumb/bios034c89.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bios034c89.jpg)

http://www.abload.de/thumb/bios04_membc2s.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bios04_membc2s.jpg)

Cheers

crashmax
06-30-2009, 01:37 PM
FAAAASTer!! :D

Who wont believe nge769?? ;)

I did every Vantage Test three times, with same drivers, same OS and same Hardware, for each mobo.

Here I present you the Result:

ASUS RIIE with slightly higher overclocking!

http://www.abload.de/thumb/riievantage4532htoffsl5rg4.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=riievantage4532htoffsl5rg4.png)

ASUS P6T7 WS SuperComputer

http://www.abload.de/thumb/p6t7vantage4468htoffslwuuq.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=p6t7vantage4468htoffslwuuq.png)

I'm relay impressed by this piece of Hardware!!

RNeon
06-30-2009, 02:02 PM
what´s now the max BCLK? can ther P6T7 perform like the classified?

crashmax
06-30-2009, 02:08 PM
what´s now the max BCLK? can ther P6T7 perform like the classified?

Not with the actual BIOS witch is the first one.
Max Prime and Linx stable BCLK is 214 at the moment. With the same CPU it was 228 BCLK on RIIE.

nge769
06-30-2009, 03:37 PM
FAAAASTer!! :D

Who wont believe nge769?? ;)

I did every Vantage Test three times, with same drivers, same OS and same Hardware, for each mobo.

Here I present you the Result:

ASUS RIIE with slightly higher overclocking!

http://www.abload.de/thumb/riievantage4532htoffsl5rg4.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=riievantage4532htoffsl5rg4.png)

ASUS P6T7 WS SuperComputer

http://www.abload.de/thumb/p6t7vantage4468htoffslwuuq.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=p6t7vantage4468htoffslwuuq.png)

I'm relay impressed by this piece of Hardware!!

Thanks Crash, your the man;):up:

Here is your settings on my board..But i had to up Vcore,QPI,mem just to play it safe(I have I7 975 Batch 3851A333:shakes: wanna trade :rolleyes:)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5773/44gig.jpg

The thing that impressed me the most was the Temps:shocked:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3732/44gcstemp.jpg

Thats right , those temps on CS\NB are with prime95 and vantage , and that was my main concern,Not anymore:up::up:..

BTW, crash you need some air conditioning in that room!! :yepp: I guarantee
you'll drop 10 to 15c on your CS:)

crashmax
06-30-2009, 11:27 PM
Thank you for this Test!!

I think if the days are becomming colder then my Temps shuld be around the same as yours.

Yesterday late in the evening I hab 23C room and the Sensor shows me 47C on load.

One Question I have. If you touch the HS, feels it much warmer than 40C? Mine feels like 70-80C at 50C Sensor. But this are only my feelings and must not be right.

Found out, that above 214BCLK this Mobo needs very high QPI Voltage, but as I said, we must wait for a new BIOS.

Thank's again. Cheers!

nge769
07-01-2009, 05:41 AM
Thank you for this Test!!

I think if the days are becomming colder then my Temps shuld be around the same as yours.

Yesterday late in the evening I hab 23C room and the Sensor shows me 47C on load.

One Question I have. If you touch the HS, feels it much warmer than 40C? Mine feels like 70-80C at 50C Sensor. But this are only my feelings and must not be right.

Found out, that above 214BCLK this Mobo needs very high QPI Voltage, but as I said, we must wait for a new BIOS.

Thank's again. Cheers!

When i touch my heatsink its barely even warm (cool sometimes)I have good air flow.

Ive experimented with different configurations , fans ,what i ended up with was i changed my front fan too COOLER MASTER R4-L2R-20AC-GP 120mm and changed rear fan to 140x25mm 1600rpm 80cfm, with very low noise.

before that, i tried putting fan on bottom of case next to psu with bad results. i had better results with (jetstream) front bottom intake ,back exhaust, from right to left.I noticed your pump and no intake fan on front bottom of case, just bottom fan that looks like it blows out quickly through
top of case , leaving hot spots.

For 7c difference, i don't know if its worth changing things, thats your call.
For me , its the most important part of my set up.

BTW, look in your bios and tell me your system temp, I'm curious , mine is 35c

Ruroni
07-01-2009, 07:39 AM
Kinda odd that his is hot and yours is cool. Is yours getting good transfer (ie mounted well)?

burningrave101
07-01-2009, 09:00 AM
Well I finally decided to go ahead and purchase one of these last night to test out. I haven't opened my Classified 760 yet so I'm thinking about selling it and keeping the Asus. I wish nge769 would quit babying that $1,000 975 XE though and see what kind of max BCLK he can get haha ;).

nge769
07-01-2009, 09:27 AM
Well I finally decided to go ahead and purchase one of these last night to test out. I haven't opened my Classified 760 yet so I'm thinking about selling it and keeping the Asus. I wish nge769 would quit babying that $1,000 975 XE though and see what kind of max BCLK he can get haha ;).

bclk is limited, 1st bios.

My chip needs more juice for higher clocks, batch 3851a333, I'm not happy about it ,but it is what it is .Good for dice ,not good for air.The only dice i use is to play craps.

nge769
07-01-2009, 09:49 AM
Kinda odd that his is hot and yours is cool. Is yours getting good transfer (ie mounted well)?

Either your mentally challenged,or you didn't bother reading, or your a troll.
Either way, run along now and go play..

PLEASE, IF ANYONE INSINUATES THAT I'M LYING, DO NOT POST ON THIS
THREAD!!!!!!!

burningrave101
07-01-2009, 09:55 AM
bclk is limited, 1st bios.

My chip needs more juice for higher clocks, batch 3851a333, I'm not happy about it ,but it is what it is .Good for dice ,not good for air.The only dice i use is to play craps.

Well I was just curious if your results were about the same as crashmax's for max BCLK with you having a 975 XE and him testing with a Xeon. You could lower your CPU multi to like 19x in order to find the max BCLK and avoid going to higher CPU speeds.

nge769
07-01-2009, 10:24 AM
Well I was just curious if your results were about the same as crashmax's for max BCLK with you having a 975 XE and him testing with a Xeon. You could lower your CPU multi to like 19x in order to find the max BCLK and avoid going to higher CPU speeds.

Yeah i know , tried it @ 215,posted, but didn't boot to windows.

This is a new platform for me ,still getting to know it.Ill mess around with it and see what i come up with. Meanwhile, any suggestions are welcome:)

Blacky
07-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Can someone confirm if this board has B3 chipset revision?

Ruroni
07-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Either your mentally challenged,or you didn't bother reading, or your a troll.
Either way, run along now and go play..

PLEASE, IF ANYONE INSINUATES THAT I'M LYING, DO NOT POST ON THIS
THREAD!!!!!!!...? lol what?

I don't think I took it to that level. I merely asked if your plate was getting a good transfer, considering his board is evidently burning up. What would I get out of trolling someone using a board I'm considering buying? :shrug:

Your first post was 3 weeks ago, and if I follow a thread over that timespan if you mentioned it (that your plate is most certainly getting good transfer), it's possible not to remember. :up:

nge769
07-01-2009, 12:26 PM
...? lol what?

I don't think I took it to that level. I merely asked if your plate was getting a good transfer, considering his board is evidently burning up. What would I get out of trolling someone using a board I'm considering buying? :shrug:

Your first post was 3 weeks ago, and if I follow a thread over that timespan if you mentioned it (that your plate is most certainly getting good transfer), it's possible not to remember. :up:

hes running 81f room temps im running 71f:rolleyes:

crashmax
07-01-2009, 12:34 PM
I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

crashmax
07-01-2009, 12:42 PM
Someone was asking me what about turbo throttling with this board.

This is my experience during Prime and Linx sessions. As soon the CPU reaches 81C it drops to a multi of 20. If you stop prime or Linx the multi goes back to 21.
So this Mobo does turbo throttling and no there is no BIOS Option yet to disable this. On RIIE it was possible to disable the turbo throttling.

nge769
07-01-2009, 12:52 PM
I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

Thanks, that confirms it my mobo sensor reads 36c and my probe reads 36.5
as I'm writing this.Maybe i need to take a video:ROTF:

unclewebb
07-01-2009, 01:48 PM
crashmax, there are 3 things that control Turbo throttling. Core voltage, power/current going through the core and temperature. Any one of these 3 items can trigger Turbo throttling where your +1 Turbo will start to cycle on and off rapidly. The harder you push it, your multiplier will then drop down to 20.0 and sit there. Good-bye nice overclock. As soon as the load or temperature drops, your multiplier will return to 21.0.

You need to contact Asus to come out with a fix for this if it is important to you. So far they have a special bios version available for the P6T Deluxe v1 and might do a few more if there's a demand for it.

The Asus rep on XS is Juan Jose (JJ) and has made the v1 guys very happy.
illuminatiASUS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=111081)

Here are some turbo testing tools to check your own board when running at full load.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

crashmax
07-01-2009, 02:04 PM
crashmax, there are 3 things that control Turbo throttling. Core voltage, power/current going through the core and temperature. Any one of these 3 items can trigger Turbo throttling where your +1 Turbo will start to cycle on and off rapidly. The harder you push it, your multiplier will then drop down to 20.0 and sit there. Good-bye nice overclock. As soon as the load or temperature drops, your multiplier will return to 21.0.

You need to contact Asus to come out with a fix for this if it is important to you. So far they have a special bios version available for the P6T Deluxe v1 and might do a few more if there's a demand for it.

The Asus rep on XS is Juan Jose (JJ) and has made the v1 guys very happy.
illuminatiASUS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=111081)

Here are some turbo testing tools to check your own board when running at full load.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip


Thank you very much for this useful info! I will use them to hopefully get a BIOS with fix this issue.

kgk
07-01-2009, 02:08 PM
Patience! :D This is a brand new mobo with initial BIOS.

After one day I can say, that this P6T7 is rock solid and that the CPU needs 0.08 VCore less as on my RIIE and that is very very good!

Furthermore, the system boots much faster than with RIIE, there is no cold boot issue (in my case) and the overall performance feels better (smooth, no lag) while loading programs and playing games.

This evening I will run Vantage to compare the P6T7 with my RIIE.

The only two things that concerns me are max BCLK and the heat (shows 57C but feels much hotter???, but hey, it is stable!!) of the NF200. In case of the max BCLK I’m sure that new BIOS releases will fix this!

For all my Tests I'm using exactly (switchting from one mobo to the other) the same CPU and Memory as on my RIIE!

Best wishes!



1. There is no cold boot issue with the RIIE. You just didn't update your BIOS. Was fixed as of 1306. BIOS is currently past that.

2. There isn't any lag or lack of "smoothness" with programs or games between the two. That's an asinine statement. Either your board was defective or you're pulling observations out of your ass. I've seen them both in action running identical CPU's and high end RAM. Both were also using Intel SSDs. Also, you'll likely get a larger FPS hit on the P6T7 due to the two NF200's.

I'm sorry but I debated between the RIIE and the P6T7 because a good friend of mine purchased it. I ended up going with the RIIE with the option of sending it back for a P6T7. I may still send it back for the P6T7, but only because of the extra PCIe slots. We have identical setups with 975's, 2000Mhz C8 RAM and Intel SSDs. What you wrote reads like an ASUS press release.


I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

No, Everest is likely just misreading the sensor. There's no way your motherboard temp is 57C. Motherboard temps don't vary that much between idle and load and never that high. Unless you live in the desert. That is likely the average of the chipset temp between the two NF200's and the Northbridge.


Someone was asking me what about turbo throttling with this board.

This is my experience during Prime and Linx sessions. As soon the CPU reaches 81C it drops to a multi of 20. If you stop prime or Linx the multi goes back to 21.

That's standard throttling on most any board that supports it.


Yes, you're excited to have your new motherboard, we get it. But don't write your observations like an ASUS press release. It helps no one.

crashmax
07-01-2009, 02:36 PM
1. There is no cold boot issue with the RIIE. You just didn't update your BIOS. Was fixed as of 1306. BIOS is currently past that.

2. There isn't any lag or lack of "smoothness" with programs or games between the two. That's an asinine statement. Either your board was defective or you're pulling observations out of your ass. I've seen them both in action running identical CPU's and high end RAM. Both were also using Intel SSDs. Also, you'll likely get a larger FPS hit on the P6T7 due to the two NF200's.

I'm sorry but I debated between the RIIE and the P6T7 because a good friend of mine purchased it. I ended up going with the RIIE with the option of sending it back for a P6T7. I may still send it back for the P6T7, but only because of the extra PCIe slots. We have identical setups with 975's, 2000Mhz C8 RAM and Intel SSDs. What you wrote reads like an ASUS press release.



No, Everest is likely just misreading the sensor. There's no way your motherboard temp is 57C. Motherboard temps don't vary that much between idle and load and never that high. Unless you live in the desert. That is likely the average of the chipset temp between the two NF200's and the Northbridge.



That's standard throttling on most any board that supports it.


Yes, you're excited to have your new motherboard, we get it. But don't write your observations like an ASUS press release. It helps no one.


I don't know whats the problem here? Perhaps it is my English as this is not my mother-tong.

1. I don't work for ASUS or any reseller.
2. I never said that there was a cold boot issue with my RIIE. I used BIOS 1406
3. I wrote that the new Mobo feels smoother while working and gaming and not that RIIE was a crappy Board. The RIIE was one of the best Mobos I ever had and I had about 40 different Boards!
4. The OS is booting much faster, that's a fact! In my case
5. I don't now where the on board sensor is on this mobo, but asus wrote to nge769 that there is no sensor for the x58 Chip or I simply misunderstood this.

And what relay pisses me of is, that this should be a Forum to share some impressions of new released Hardware but some people try to offend you if you write your personal view :down:

If you have an other view then tell us, but please don't do that in this way.

nge769
07-01-2009, 03:39 PM
Oh boy ,never thought this thread would get like this.Lets stop with the bickering, misunderstandings and the BS .Were here to express our opinions, maybe learn a Little something, and to have some fun .

People posting from around the world aren't gonna know the English language
as well as there native language,and seems to create some confusion here i see.

I don't see where crash said the RIIE had a cold boot issue,personally i never experienced it.

The bios lists board temps, that should give you a good idea,unless its reading wrong. Thats what a probe is for,no?

The temps in crashes room, in a way, is like living in the desert, (28c , 81+F) in my book thats pretty warm and will affect your temps big time.

Peace

kgk
07-02-2009, 08:04 AM
I don't know whats the problem here? Perhaps it is my English as this is not my mother-tong.

1. I don't work for ASUS or any reseller.
2. I never said that there was a cold boot issue with my RIIE. I used BIOS 1406
3. I wrote that the new Mobo feels smoother while working and gaming and not that RIIE was a crappy Board. The RIIE was one of the best Mobos I ever had and I had about 40 different Boards!
4. The OS is booting much faster, that's a fact! In my case
5. I don't now where the on board sensor is on this mobo, but asus wrote to nge769 that there is no sensor for the x58 Chip or I simply misunderstood this.

And what relay pisses me of is, that this should be a Forum to share some impressions of new released Hardware but some people try to offend you if you write your personal view :down:

If you have an other view then tell us, but please don't do that in this way.

If you misconstrued it that badly just write in German. I'm perfectly fluent in that as well.

I never said you work for ASUS. Stop misdirecting.

You implied there was a cold boot issue in your comparison, perhaps unintentionally due to the language barrier.

How can a board "feel smoother" while working and gaming? You either had bad manual BIOS settings for an overclock with undervolt or a defective board. I've used them both with identical hardware and they function the same. Aside from a minimal Vantage difference there is no discernible difference to someone using a program. Also, I never claimed you said the RIIE was a crappy board.

The OS booting faster could simply be due to a shorter BIOS screen. The P6T7 doesn't have the ROG Graphic, although you can turn that off on the RIIE.

My response had nothing to do with criticizing the board and everything to do with criticizing the fanboyism. The P6T7 is a fantastic board, but there's no need to invent things in an attempt to elevate it. :rolleyes: It's already at the top of the pecking order, so the arbitrary "figures" are really pointless.

crashmax
07-02-2009, 09:54 AM
My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

burningrave101
07-02-2009, 10:59 AM
The OS booting faster could simply be due to a shorter BIOS screen. The P6T7 doesn't have the ROG Graphic, although you can turn that off on the RIIE.

You say you've used them both with identical hardware. Did you time the process it took for each to finish their boot sequence and load the OS? The P6T7 is a workstation class board which may have a better optimized BIOS that recognizes and initializes the hardware in a faster sequence than the R2E thus shaving off several seconds in boot time. X58 boards don't all have the exact same boot times regardless of their POST screen graphics because every boards BIOS is going to be a little different.

nge769
07-02-2009, 11:06 AM
My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

Well said.:up:

crashmax
07-02-2009, 11:08 AM
Can someone confirm if this board has B3 chipset revision?

I know, nge769 wrote this already.

Here is a screen-shot of what sandra is telling us about the chipset stepping.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/chipset_info1mmc.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=chipset_info1mmc.png)

Everest still shows the chipset as B2 stepping.

kgk
07-02-2009, 11:39 AM
You say you've used them both with identical hardware. Did you time the process it took for each to finish their boot sequence and load the OS? The P6T7 is a workstation class board which may have a better optimized BIOS that recognizes and initializes the hardware in a faster sequence than the R2E thus shaving off several seconds in boot time. X58 boards don't all have the exact same boot times regardless of their POST screen graphics because every boards BIOS is going to be a little different.

It's not really a "workstation" board. It can run 7 GPUs for CUDA, but it's still an X58 single socket board. I'd consider a "workstation" board a dual socket 1366.

The hardware detection is almost identical in time between the two. The only difference between my setup and my co-worker/friend is he has an Nvidia GPU setup, while I have an ATI. Disable the ROG flashy crap and SAS drive search on the RIIE and it's practically identical in bootup to windows start. I'm really temped to switch over to the P6T7 for the added PCIe availability since I run a lot of devices. But not because of any inherent performance advantage (aside from the ability to run more GPUs).

kgk
07-02-2009, 11:41 AM
I know, nge769 wrote this already.

Here is a screen-shot of what sandra is telling us about the chipset stepping.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/chipset_info1mmc.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=chipset_info1mmc.png)

Everest still shows the chipset as B2 stepping.

Sandra is probably right. Everest "says" it supports the P6T7 now but I think we all know how reliable that program has been over the yeras :rolleyes:

Only way to know for absolutely sure is word from the manufacturer or prying off the heatsink.

kgk
07-02-2009, 11:43 AM
My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

Ah, simply a language misunderstanding then. No problem. :up:

Also, you're not very far from me. I'm in Konstanz.

crashmax
07-02-2009, 12:29 PM
Ah, simply a language misunderstanding then. No problem. :up:

Also, you're not very far from me. I'm in Konstanz.


We are almost neighbors. And the funny thing is we have both the same mother-tong (for those how don't know that) :D

burningrave101
07-02-2009, 12:43 PM
It's not really a "workstation" board. It can run 7 GPUs for CUDA, but it's still an X58 single socket board. I'd consider a "workstation" board a dual socket 1366.

Well despite what you consider it to be it's still a workstation developed board that's been certified for supporting NVIDIA's Tesla GPUs and so that's why it's marketed with the name "Workstation" in it's title. Number of sockets doesn't classify whether or not a board is a workstation board.

AmrElshaer
07-03-2009, 02:59 AM
hey nge769 can you post your bios settings. i am willing to build a system exactly like you.so i might need you to post your bios setup . all of you guys are doing great. and everyone here is trying to get to the best result and the most correct conclusion...... so well done everyone.

nge769
07-03-2009, 05:52 AM
hey nge769 can you post your bios settings. i am willing to build a system exactly like you.so i might need you to post your bios setup . all of you guys are doing great. and everyone here is trying to get to the best result and the most correct conclusion...... so well done everyone.


Hi AmrElshaer,look at my first page,SS, Also you might have to adjust vcore,QPI, not all chips are the same.When i used Crash's settings it wouldn't even boot to windows,i needed more voltage.

Drow
07-05-2009, 07:05 AM
Can somebody say with certainty, if the Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer has the B3-Chipset?

RNeon
07-05-2009, 08:49 AM
Can somebody say with certainty, if the Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer has the B3-Chipset?

yes it do

burningrave101
07-08-2009, 06:57 PM
Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?

burningrave101
07-09-2009, 09:45 AM
Hopefully Asus will come out with a fix for the thermal throttling on Turbo mode when reaching 80C. So far I'm Priming 4.1Ghz with my W3520 and a couple of the cores keep hitting 79-80C causing the multiplier to start to drop below 21x. I need to reseat my TRUE though because I don't think I applied the thermal paste that great the first time with the way I had to keep twisting the TRUE around to get it screwed down. I may try to lap it as well which would probably knock off another 5C or so on temps.

Also let me just say that the NB/SB/NF200 plate does get pretty hot to the touch if you don't have direct airflow on it. I tested mine without any direct airflow on it while overclocked and under load and it was too hot to keep your finger on it for more than a few seconds. I put a 120mm fan on it though and that seemed to take care of it.

Fire4Wire
07-09-2009, 12:31 PM
yes it do



latest everest shows b2 step and latest cpuz too

nge769
07-09-2009, 01:05 PM
Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?

No , i have the original (210),I'm still waiting for bios update.:)

I think firewire has a beta bios , but not allowed to share it.

crashmax
07-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?


With my W3540, witch I have sold, 210BCLK was the max on P6T7 (220BCLK max on RIIE).

Now I'm going to holiday for the next two weeks. Hope there will be a new bios after I'm back. :rolleyes:

read you soon :yepp:

JohnMike
07-10-2009, 06:07 PM
I got this board for testing and the first thing that i find is.... This board really BURNS!! :eek:

The block that covers the two NF200 and NB chip, i hardly can touch it after i play for a few minutes a 3D game with my 285GTX.

This is not a board for any regular case. :shakes:

ACE76
07-10-2009, 06:41 PM
I got this board for testing and the first thing that i find is.... This board really BURNS!! :eek:

The block that covers the two NF200 and NB chip, i hardly can touch it after i play for a few minutes a 3D game with my 285GTX.

This is not a board for any regular case. :shakes:

That's what I figured but the OP kept insisting that heat isn't an issue! I have the P6T6 and it gets hot with one NF200...maybe if they designed it to have seperate sinks, that would help...one sink covering all that area is bound to get hot...I hope people water-cool it and then post back what it can do because aside from the heat it still looks like a good board.

JohnMike
07-10-2009, 07:00 PM
That's what I figured but the OP kept insisting that heat isn't an issue! I have the P6T6 and it gets hot with one NF200...maybe if they designed it to have seperate sinks, that would help...one sink covering all that area is bound to get hot...I hope people water-cool it and then post back what it can do because aside from the heat it still looks like a good board.

It's a great board, no dout. But the heat generated is very high on the sink. I have the board on my desk, maybe on a case with good air flow the heat could be better dissipate, but anyway these chips (2x NF200) and the board it self are very, VERY hot. I'm going to keep my eVGA X58.

kgk
07-10-2009, 11:20 PM
It's a great board, no dout. But the heat generated is very high on the sink. I have the board on my desk, maybe on a case with good air flow the heat could be better dissipate, but anyway these chips (2x NF200) and the board it self are very, VERY hot. I'm going to keep my eVGA X58.

Careful, you may get shouted down like I did for suggesting that the heatsink isn't sufficient........

Did you get temp readings?

bill_d
07-11-2009, 01:17 AM
has anyone tried crossfire or 3 way cf on this board yet?

kgk
07-11-2009, 01:24 AM
has anyone tried crossfire or 3 way cf on this board yet?

That Trubitar clown on Youtube has benchmarks of it running tri-sli and a fourth in physx without issue. So I'd assume 3 way cf should work just fine.

JohnMike
07-11-2009, 02:43 AM
Careful, you may get shouted down like I did for suggesting that the heatsink isn't sufficient........

Did you get temp readings?

No i didn't, just a simple touch is enough to sense and fill the very hot sinks on this board, i just can hold my fingers on the chips sink for a very few seconds after playing 3D game then i may burn my skin. Even with the SO on idle the temps are very high.

I have tried hundreds of boards in the past and i don't need to read the temps to know that this board is one of most hotters boards...Ever!

The board is very good, really fast and good quality components. The bios is very limited regarding OC Ram because it's Xeon CPU limited. Need new bios.

kgk
07-11-2009, 04:10 AM
No i didn't, just a simple touch is enough to sense and fill the very hot sinks on this board, i just can hold my fingers on the chips sink for a very few seconds after playing 3D game then i may burn my skin. Even with the SO on idle the temps are very high.

I have tried hundreds of boards in the past and i don't need to read the temps to know that this board is one of most hotters boards...Ever!

The board is very good, really fast and good quality components. The bios is very limited regarding OC Ram because it's Xeon CPU limited. Need new bios.

Yea but an X58 chipset is generally around 50C anyway on air, with the heatsink being too hot to touch under load. I Have a TJ 07 with two 120's filling up the front bays so we'll see how well it mitigates the temps when I get it next week. The heatsink obviously needs air moving across the fins to dissipate the heat more effectively so having yours sitting in the open probably didn't help.

Try sticking a single 120mm fan near the fins and see how the temps look after that. Also, replace the stock thermal grease with AS5 or something similar. That'll drop your temps another few degrees C. The stock thermal grease that ASUS uses on their chipset coolers is crap.

I'm going to swap out the thermal grease on mine with AS5 and have decent airflow so it shouldn't give any problems. But as soon as a water block is released for it I'm putting that sucker on water.

nge769
07-11-2009, 10:30 AM
Wow, sorry to hear your boards heat up like that,mine is barley warm to the touch and never goes over 38c idle,and 41c load on probe,with 22c room temp.

I remember with out the memory fan, the heatsink fins would be hot. (the one's next to the memory) Also those fins+pipe are the closest link to the sink,I remember that those fins were hotter than the rest of the fins next to CPU.

I wished some one lived in NY so they can come over and see my rig and temps.( If any1 lives near me, their welcomed to stop by):)

BTW.. If my board over heated , I would of sold it the next day.

LiberalElephant
07-11-2009, 10:55 AM
So does this board resume from S3 okay?

lawtq
07-11-2009, 11:07 AM
Wow, sorry to hear your boards heat up like that,mine is barley warm to the touch and never goes over 38c idle,and 41c load on probe,with 22c room temp.

I remember with out the memory fan, the heatsink fins would be hot. (the one's next to the memory) Also those fins+pipe are the closest link to the sink,I remember that those fins were hotter than the rest of the fins next to CPU.

I wished some one lived in NY so they can come over and see my rig and temps.( If any1 lives near me, their welcomed to stop by):)

BTW.. If my board over heated , I would of sold it the next day.

Hey people, new boy here. I totally agree with this guy. My P6T7 heatsink is barely warm to the touch too. I too have the corsair fans over the memory which does a good job of cooling the heat pipes and fins next to it, and I have 40mm fans on the other fins, the board is never in danger of overheating from what I'm experiencing:)

My 760 evga classified is hotter.

nge769
07-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Hey people, new boy here. I totally agree with this guy. My P6T7 heatsink is barely warm to the touch too. I too have the corsair fans over the memory which does a good job of cooling the heat pipes and fins next to it, and I have 40mm fans on the other fins, the board is never in danger of overheating from what I'm experiencing:)

My 760 evga classified is hotter.

Hello lawtq, and welcome ,I'm glad your experiencing good temp results too with this mobo.This is the most stable mobo for this platform Ive ever owned.

The only regret i have is i should of waited and bought 2 sas drives instead
of 2 raptors, but who knew this mobo would come out,but its ok cause my 2 veloci raptors in raid0 are pretty fast too.:)

lawtq
07-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Thanks man!

Its a lovely mobo, just neeeeeeeeeeeed a bios update, cant take the turbo multiplier throttling any more, lol. And one of my usb ports aren't working, cant bare to rma just for that, hoping a bios update somehow fixes it (hey, let a man dream) Looks like rma it might be, for the price EVERYTHING should be working. Aint touched my classified since getting this mobo.

Am hunting for the 0303 beta I think someone on here has, wont stop till I find it somewhere.

But right now I'm on 4.5 GHZ with HT stable (I think so far, no crashes after 2 days) with a vcore of 1.45, and vtt/QPI of 1.3625. Idling around 36-37c for cpu and max load temps with linx at 77c, not bad for 4.5ghz with hyperthreading!

kgk
07-12-2009, 08:35 AM
Thanks man!

Its a lovely mobo, just neeeeeeeeeeeed a bios update, cant take the turbo multiplier throttling any more, lol. And one of my usb ports aren't working, cant bare to rma just for that, hoping a bios update somehow fixes it (hey, let a man dream) Looks like rma it might be, for the price EVERYTHING should be working. Aint touched my classified since getting this mobo.

Am hunting for the 0303 beta I think someone on here has, wont stop till I find it somewhere.

But right now I'm on 4.5 GHZ with HT stable (I think so far, no crashes after 2 days) with a vcore of 1.45, and vtt/QPI of 1.3625. Idling around 36-37c for cpu and max load temps with linx at 77c, not bad for 4.5ghz with hyperthreading!

Not bad at all. Pretty high vcore though :confused: What's your bclck x multi combo? Or are you on an i7 920? I'm assuming that's on water too, right?

Also, the USB problem is unlikely to be fixed with BIOS, I'd RMA it now. By the time you get it back, the new BIOS might be available.

Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

kgk
07-12-2009, 08:41 AM
Also, for those that have mentioned Turbo throttling, is it not possible to disable it in the BIOS? What about Speedstep? Because I hate those two and always turn them off on OC's.

EDIT: Nevermind, saw in the BIOS screenshots that the Speedstep option is available. But yea that Turbo throttling option isn't there. Argh.

JohnMike
07-12-2009, 10:02 AM
Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

I know that a board in workbench gets warmed higher then in a case with airflow. But i had Asus P6T V2 and Gigabyte X58 Extreme on the same position and they were not even close to this temps that i'm experience. The others boards were cool when on workbench with good temps, on idle the temps look like the boards were power down.

Anyaway, i believe this board will work better in a case with good airflow. People must be aware and look close for temps.

lawtq
07-12-2009, 11:46 AM
Not bad at all. Pretty high vcore though :confused: What's your bclck x multi combo? Or are you on an i7 920? I'm assuming that's on water too, right?

Also, the USB problem is unlikely to be fixed with BIOS, I'd RMA it now. By the time you get it back, the new BIOS might be available.

Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

Yep, its a 920 D0 with a 215 bclock. 1.4325v is doable but it freezes sometimes, a little more tweaking needed, memory is 6gb corsair at 1700+mhz at it rated 1.64v. It just my chip it needs a big jump in vcore to do 4.5ghz with HT, cause I'm doing 1.36v at 4,4ghz wiht HT

The board is on its first bios which impresses me, turbo thrittling better be sorted out with ther next bios. I'll probably rma due to the single usb port not working, it doesnt recongize some devices but recognizes that they've been pluged in at aleast, while nothing happens at all when some other devices are plugged in.

I just feel the board is VERY solid, can I live without that single usb port (yes) but it'll niggle me till I just cant sleep no more! I'm just a bit reluctant to rma cause the board they replace it with could be worse, and not as stable.

The guy with the beta bios 0303 I think it was, he give any feedback as to how the bios is??

nge769
07-12-2009, 12:16 PM
Yep, its a 920 D0 with a 215 bclock. 1.4325v is doable but it freezes sometimes, a little more tweaking needed, memory is 6gb corsair at 1700+mhz at it rated 1.64v. It just my chip it needs a big jump in vcore to do 4.5ghz with HT, cause I'm doing 1.36v at 4,4ghz wiht HT

The board is on its first bios which impresses me, turbo thrittling better be sorted out with ther next bios. I'll probably rma due to the single usb port not working, it doesnt recongize some devices but recognizes that they've been pluged in at aleast, while nothing happens at all when some other devices are plugged in.

I just feel the board is VERY solid, can I live without that single usb port (yes) but it'll niggle me till I just cant sleep no more! I'm just a bit reluctant to rma cause the board they replace it with could be worse, and not as stable.

The guy with the beta bios 0303 I think it was, he give any feedback as to how the bios is??

No he didn't.

I would definitely send it back ,and you would probably get a new one, cause it just came out, and not that many refurbs/returns in circulation yet;).

About the bios, i saw a review on the net Where asus sent them the 0410 bios to use for the review , so that makes me think there working on it.

kgk
07-12-2009, 08:20 PM
I would definitely send it back ,and you would probably get a new one, cause it just came out, and not that many refurbs/returns in circulation yet;).
.

What he said. Probability of getting a refurb with the P6T7 is probably very slim. Compared to say, an RIIE or Classified, where there are a lot of refurbs floating around now.


Also, if they already shipped a review sample with a 400 something BIOS, then I'm surprised the one that the guy earlier in this thread had(303, or something) hasn't been released yet. Maybe it has some major bug or they just decided to skip over it with the 400 version.

melle.k
07-13-2009, 06:22 AM
sound's like this is a very good board cant wait to get mine it is in order richt now

lawtq
07-14-2009, 03:56 AM
Does anyone get the occasional freeze in bios? Requiring a hard reset to function again? I get this at high overclocks, 4.5ghz with HT, have never run the board on stock cklocks before though.

nge769
07-14-2009, 10:14 AM
Does anyone get the occasional freeze in bios? Requiring a hard reset to function again? I get this at high overclocks, 4.5ghz with HT, have never run the board on stock cklocks before though.

Yeah, happened to me playing with high OC ,never happens on stock or low OC though, I'm not sure why.

lawtq
07-14-2009, 03:32 PM
Yeah, happened to me playing with high OC ,never happens on stock or low OC though, I'm not sure why.

I see, thanks 4 the reply.

Hurry with the bios update already, Asus.

kgk
07-15-2009, 10:08 AM
So my P6T7 came today and it has the 303 Bios installed. Even though the one on the ASUS site is listed as 210 haha.

Fire4Wire
07-15-2009, 10:11 AM
then your board is not original
asus germany said 0303 is internal bios for testing NOT final
then someone got your board and flashed 0303 and sended it back
my opinion

kgk
07-15-2009, 10:14 AM
then your board is not original
asus germany said 0303 is internal bios for testing NOT final
then someone got your board and flashed 0303 and sended it back
my opinion

Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

lawtq
07-15-2009, 10:50 AM
Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

Congrats!! This 303 bios, does it have the cpu turbo throttling disable option?

Give us your thoughts and OC experience later. Where'd you buy the board from?

I'm sending mine back to scan, they are picking it up, due to the one usb port not working, hope the replacement is with 303 bios.

kgk
07-15-2009, 10:57 AM
Congrats!! This 303 bios, does it have the cpu turbo throttling disable option?

Give us your thoughts and OC experience later. Where'd you buy the board from?

Bought it from PC-king.de here in Germany.

I disabled Intel Turbo and Speedstep, which are listed as options. Think I forgot to disable C-State though since it's still giving me fluctuated readings in Core Temp.

The TDP is amusing in Core Temp though, jumps between 400 and 4000 Watts :rofl:

Guess Core Temp doesn't support this board yet. Everest works though.

In the middle of downloading Windows 7 7600 build that just came out so gonna have to wait an hour for me to post oc's and temps. But believe it or not the stock cooling solution doesn't seem to be that bad. I was expecting far worse.

I've also noticed that this board does take slightly less vcore to boot 4.0Ghz HT on stable compared to the RIIE.

lawtq
07-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Ah, so no cpu turbo throttling option yet

kgk
07-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Ah, so no cpu turbo throttling option yet

Will let you know for sure in approx 30 minutes. Installing latest Windows 7, drivers, and programs at the moment.

Mmichel
07-15-2009, 12:10 PM
Bios 0303 ??
Have anyone an Download, Link please ?? ;)

Greetz Mike

lawtq
07-15-2009, 12:26 PM
Will let you know for sure in approx 30 minutes. Installing latest Windows 7, drivers, and programs at the moment.

Great, thanks!

Fire4Wire
07-15-2009, 12:28 PM
Bios 0303 ??
Have anyone an Download, Link please ?? ;)

Greetz Mike


we arent by wish you what :rofl:

kgk
07-15-2009, 12:45 PM
Ok I can boot just fine with 133x 30 (~4Ghz) with HT on no problems. BIOS sees it as 4.0Ghz.

But in Windows, CoreTemp still gives me 133x12 to 133x26 back and forth. And it's the latest Core Temp beta too.

Everest same thing. Weird. Even when I run Prime 95 to stress it, thinking it'll crank up to the OC, it still displays 133x26. F'ed up.

Although CPU-Z sees it just fine as 4Ghz, and without fluctuations.......

It's probably the programs just not having caught up to the board yet since there aren't a lot in the wild.

nge769
07-15-2009, 01:30 PM
Ok I can boot just fine with 133x 30 (~4Ghz) with HT on no problems. BIOS sees it as 4.0Ghz.

But in Windows, CoreTemp still gives me 133x12 to 133x26 back and forth. And it's the latest Core Temp beta too.

Everest same thing. Weird. Even when I run Prime 95 to stress it, thinking it'll crank up to the OC, it still displays 133x26. F'ed up.

Although CPU-Z sees it just fine as 4Ghz, and without fluctuations.......

It's probably the programs just not having caught up to the board yet since there aren't a lot in the wild.

Same here, fluctuations in core temp but not in cpuz.

One thing with the WS boards ,ASUS takes their sweet ass time with bios updates, from what Ive heard.

ASUS give me that 0410 bios already.

melle.k
07-15-2009, 02:35 PM
my p6t7 ws came today , i still got the 210 bios
but it works just fine , i got a i7 920 D0 with it (stock cooler) not to happy about the temps (43 at idle)

kgk
07-15-2009, 02:39 PM
my p6t7 ws came today , i still got the 210 bios
but it works just fine , i got a i7 920 D0 with it (stock cooler) not to happy about the temps (43 at idle)

The temps don't have anything to do with the board.

That's within normal for idle. i7's run hot.

Also, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised with the chipset temps. Nothing crazy hot. Doesn't seem to get any hotter than my RIIE with stock cooling. I have good airflow in my case though, so I could see how without air flow on the fins that the board could get hot.

melle.k
07-15-2009, 02:49 PM
my chipset temp is 42

kgk
07-15-2009, 02:52 PM
my chipset temp is 42

Ditto.

melle.k
07-15-2009, 03:46 PM
everything is working fine but when i oc my pocessor up to 3.0 ghz and i stress it i get tempt up to 70 i have got my multiplier at 20 and the core speed at 150 ,the voltage is at stock

am i doing something wrong because 70 is not good at all for an mild oc

nge769
07-15-2009, 04:44 PM
everything is working fine but when i oc my pocessor up to 3.0 ghz and i stress it i get tempt up to 70 i have got my multiplier at 20 and the core speed at 150 ,the voltage is at stock

am i doing something wrong because 70 is not good at all for an mild oc

Make sure your heatsink is seated properly, take it off and check the paste for dry spots.

Oh , i noticed your using a stock cooler from your previous post, that's your problem lol,get a better cooler if overclocking.

nge769
07-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

Boards get sent with new bios just before they update the asus site ,happened to me with the p6t deluxe v2.

Also, check your serial number on your box , tell me what your first 2 numbers are (first number is the year, second number is the month it was built)That should give you a good idea ;)..let me know.

BTW, mine was built on may of 09

A?????Z
07-16-2009, 03:51 AM
Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1262879&da=y

melle.k
07-16-2009, 05:25 AM
Make sure your heatsink is seated properly, take it off and check the paste for dry spots.

Oh , i noticed your using a stock cooler from your previous post, that's your problem lol,get a better cooler if overclocking.

tank you for the tips i am going to buy a scyte mugen very soon i hope :)

lawtq
07-16-2009, 07:35 AM
Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1262879&da=y

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've just sent my p6t7 back due to the dud usb port, then someone posts the bios link!! Lol!!

Thanks for the link, anyone tried it yet?

Currently using my classified and its struggling to stay stable at 4.4ghz with HT, the p6t7 found it alot easier and with every voltage on auto except cpu and ram voltages.

***Why did MJ have to die!!?? :(

Concerning temps I'm at 34-37c at idle even with a 4.5ghz HT overclock!! Load max is 77c (With Linx stress test, the most brutal cpu stresser!) at the same overclock, its thanks to the amazing heatkiller water block and a tripple radiator

kgk
07-16-2009, 07:43 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've just sent my p6t7 back due to the dud usb port, then someone posts the bios link!! Lol!!

Thanks for the link, anyone tried it yet?

Currently using my classified and its struggling to stay stable at 4.4ghz with HT, the p6t7 found it alot easier and with every voltage on auto except cpu and ram voltages.

Concerning temps I'm at 34-37c at idle even with a 4.5ghz HT overclock!! Load max is 77c (With Linx stress test, the most brutal cpu stresser!) at the same overclock, its thanks to the amazing heatkiller water block and a tripple radiator

That reassures me. I was worried that my load temps were high on water. I'm at 4.2Ghz HT on with 70C load. Guess these i7's run hot even under water. :down:

burningrave101
07-16-2009, 11:14 AM
That reassures me. I was worried that my load temps were high on water. I'm at 4.2Ghz HT on with 70C load. Guess these i7's run hot even under water. :down:

You're doing good if your load temp is 70C at 4.2Ghz w/ HT. My Xeon W3520 was hitting 80C at 4Ghz w/ HT on aircooling with a TRUE. If I continue the build I'm working though on I'll probably be going water soon.

Can't wait to try out this new BIOS once my Enermax 1250w gets back from RMA. Hopefully it will offer a better overclocking support for the Xeons and a higher max BCLK. Has anyone checked to see if the new BIOS allows you to disable thermal throttling?

Fire4Wire
07-17-2009, 09:49 AM
Same here, fluctuations in core temp but not in cpuz.

One thing with the WS boards ,ASUS takes their sweet ass time with bios updates, from what Ive heard.

ASUS give me that 0410 bios already.



Bios 0410 for P6T7??

i tought Bios 0305 is latest?

RNeon
07-17-2009, 10:10 AM
someone who will post a High BCLK with the new Bios Versions?

nge769
07-17-2009, 11:00 AM
Bios 0410 for P6T7??

i tought Bios 0305 is latest?

This is where i saw it.

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1913_5.html

Fire4Wire
07-17-2009, 12:36 PM
that must be an mistake
bios 0305 is newest i think they mean 0210 i think
you can see in bios pics that bios 0210 was installed

nge769
07-17-2009, 12:56 PM
that must be an mistake
bios 0305 is newest i think they mean 0210 i think
you can see in bios pics that bios 0210 was installed

Wow, yeah, i just noticed that, good eye fire4wire.

He also went ahead and stated...

"The BIOS version installed was 0410 which is newer than that found on ASUS's website"

I don't know, that guy must of been smoking something..:rofl:

burningrave101
07-17-2009, 02:16 PM
So have any of you guys tested the new 0305 BIOS and care to comment on it or what's the hold up? lol

lawtq
07-17-2009, 02:19 PM
So have any of you guys tested the new 0305 BIOS and care to comment on it or what's the hold up? lol

Yeah, whats the hold up ppl:shrug:

jamiee
07-18-2009, 05:25 AM
Can't say I see any obvious difference with 0305.
Still no Turbo option.


BTW, has anybody had CPU-Z acting strange with this board?
For me it will sometimes open just fine and others won't open at all, though it does show that it's an active process in task manager.
(Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2)

nFo
07-18-2009, 02:53 PM
Thanks for bios 0305, I have this board now.
But I'm new to Core I7 so overclocking goes bad..... :am:
So first I need some Core I7 overclocking tour.....;)

nge769
07-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Can't say I see any obvious difference with 0305.
Still no Turbo option.


BTW, has anybody had CPU-Z acting strange with this board?
For me it will sometimes open just fine and others won't open at all, though it does show that it's an active process in task manager.
(Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2)

No, cpuz works fine for me , a little delay , but fine.

jamiee
07-18-2009, 06:03 PM
No, cpuz works fine for me , a little delay , but fine.

Hmmm.... maybe I'll try re-installing Windows again.

[EDIT] Yup, looks like it was a flaky Windows install the first time around. CPU-Z is working fine now.

Fire4Wire
07-20-2009, 01:52 AM
Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1262879&da=y


did you came often on beta bios for p6t7?

lawtq
07-22-2009, 07:08 AM
Yeeeeehaww!

Got my P6t7 back! All usb ports and everything else working

Tried the 305 bios update but EZ flash telling me its not valid, anyone getting this message?

nge769
07-22-2009, 08:04 AM
Yeeeeehaww!

Got my P6t7 back! All usb ports and everything else working

Tried the 305 bios update but EZ flash telling me its not valid, anyone getting this message?

No, but i want to flash back to 0210 and it wont let me:shakes:..any1 flash back to 210?

lawtq
07-22-2009, 11:11 AM
No, but i want to flash back to 0210 and it wont let me:shakes:..any1 flash back to 210?

Yes, follow the following to the exact letter and enjoy bios downgrading!:)

This method requires the Engineering Edition of AFUDOS. You can google "Afudos Engineering" to find some links to download. Here is a link I've uploaded.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/19/174415/AFUDOS229ES.zip http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/19/174415/AFUDOS236es.zip

I use the Boot USB method since its faster and more reliable.

Extract the AFUDOS onto your boot device along with your BIOS in the same directory.
use this command to flash:

AFUDOS /ixxxx.rom /pbnc /n where ixxxx=name.rom

After it sucessfully flashes and verifies. Turn off your machine, unplug, and remove battery.
Easy as pie, spread the word people!!!!

Do at your own risk (Disclaimer) But it works:yepp: The removal of battery is not necessary I found

lawtq
07-22-2009, 11:12 AM
Asus, now get your ass in gear and give us the bios upgrade will ya!! This board is great but is held back by this bios!

burningrave101
07-22-2009, 12:31 PM
How are you guys getting by with the turbo throttling? Have you tested with the i7 Turbo tool to see if your multi is holding at 21x under load?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=225450

lawtq
07-22-2009, 01:38 PM
I can see it throttling in cpu z and real temp clearly, grrrr! Nice tool though.

nge769
07-22-2009, 06:15 PM
Yes, follow the following to the exact letter and enjoy bios downgrading!:)

This method requires the Engineering Edition of AFUDOS. You can google "Afudos Engineering" to find some links to download. Here is a link I've uploaded.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/19/174415/AFUDOS229ES.zip http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/19/174415/AFUDOS236es.zip

I use the Boot USB method since its faster and more reliable.

Extract the AFUDOS onto your boot device along with your BIOS in the same directory.
use this command to flash:

AFUDOS /ixxxx.rom /pbnc /n where ixxxx=name.rom

After it sucessfully flashes and verifies. Turn off your machine, unplug, and remove battery.
Easy as pie, spread the word people!!!!

Do at your own risk (Disclaimer) But it works:yepp: The removal of battery is not necessary I found

Thanks man, didn't know they had a different version of afudos,I always use
dos to update bios on previous systems. :)

Fire4Wire
07-23-2009, 01:35 AM
Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket1366/P6T7_WS_SC/BIOS/P6T7-WS-SC-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
----------------------
CPU MicroCode update

nge769
07-23-2009, 06:29 AM
Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket1366/P6T7_WS_SC/BIOS/P6T7-WS-SC-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
----------------------
CPU MicroCode update

Thanks fire4wire..:)

lawtq
07-23-2009, 06:41 AM
Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket1366/P6T7_WS_SC/BIOS/P6T7-WS-SC-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
----------------------
CPU MicroCode update

God dayamn!!!! :shocked:

You the man!! Thanx!!

So this their official next bios eh, it may be 2 monthe before they update their website with this one

crashmax
07-24-2009, 01:51 AM
Thank you for the Link to new BIOS 303.

As far as I can say, there is no improvement in overclocking. Max BCLK is still 214 with my CPU.
But this Board still rocks!

nge769
07-24-2009, 07:12 AM
Thank you for the Link to new BIOS 303.

As far as I can say, there is no improvement in overclocking. Max BCLK is still 214 with my CPU.
But this Board still rocks!

Hey crash welcome back,how was your Holiday/vacation ?:)

Yeah this board is great,runs a bit snappier with the 0303 bios,also for every1
using nvidia cards, theres a new driver out that kicks butt..:)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_190.38_whql.html

crashmax
07-24-2009, 01:42 PM
Hey crash welcome back,how was your Holiday/vacation ?:)

Yeah this board is great,runs a bit snappier with the 0303 bios,also for every1
using nvidia cards, theres a new driver out that kicks butt..:)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_190.38_whql.html

Hello,

Thanks, my holiday was very good. we was in north of Germany.

Will try this new nvidia driver with my sli config.

cheers

burningrave101
07-25-2009, 12:23 PM
Thank you for the Link to new BIOS 303.

As far as I can say, there is no improvement in overclocking. Max BCLK is still 214 with my CPU.
But this Board still rocks!

Do you have any thermal throttling on the 303 BIOS at 214 BCLK when you check with the i7 Turbo app under load? You may not with being on watercooling.

crashmax
07-25-2009, 01:08 PM
Do you have any thermal throttling on the 303 BIOS at 214 BCLK when you check with the i7 Turbo app under load? You may not with being on watercooling.

The turbo throttling is still there and no BIOS option to avoid this.

lawtq
07-25-2009, 04:05 PM
Grrr, we gonna have to wait months for another update maybe, and all we may get is a cpu microcode update again, sigh! Feel like swapping the board out and using my classified until these P6T7 bios file mature. Probably will

unclewebb
07-25-2009, 06:50 PM
The turbo throttling is still there and no BIOS option to avoid this.

How many users here have contacted Asus about turbo throttling issues with the P6T7? Juan Jose is the Asus rep here on XS and he was very helpful getting this issue fixed for the Asus P6T Deluxe v1.

illuminatiASUS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=111081)

Contact him. Be polite and let him know that this is a problem for you. Last time I talked with him they were considering releasing special bios versions to correct turbo throttling issues on some of their other P6T motherboards but if you don't ask for it, they might not bother releasing it.

Edit: Two weeks ago this is what JJ had to say about the P6T v2 boards:

"Hopefully if things slow down a little in our RD / Bios team we will be able to provide it within the next 2 weeks. There might be a possibility that we will release this updated bios (non release as a test bios only) for all P6 Variant boards."

A fix might be a lot closer than you realize. The P6T Deluxe v1 is a great board now with the special release 0006 bios.

crashmax
07-26-2009, 01:03 AM
How many users here have contacted Asus about turbo throttling issues with the P6T7? Juan Jose is the Asus rep here on XS and he was very helpful getting this issue fixed for the Asus P6T Deluxe v1.

illuminatiASUS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=111081)

Contact him. Be polite and let him know that this is a problem for you. Last time I talked with him they were considering releasing special bios versions to correct turbo throttling issues on some of their other P6T motherboards but if you don't ask for it, they might not bother releasing it.

Edit: Two weeks ago this is what JJ had to say about the P6T v2 boards:

"Hopefully if things slow down a little in our RD / Bios team we will be able to provide it within the next 2 weeks. There might be a possibility that we will release this updated bios (non release as a test bios only) for all P6 Variant boards."

A fix might be a lot closer than you realize. The P6T Deluxe v1 is a great board now with the special release 0006 bios.

I already wrote to him. Hopefully there will be more people in the near future to do the same. At this time though I guess there are only few people which have this board already.

Fire4Wire
07-26-2009, 05:36 AM
hope that we get newer bios then 0305

lawtq
07-26-2009, 06:59 AM
hope that we get newer bios then 0305

0303 was a cpu microcode update, what was the update in 0305 bios???

Fire4Wire
07-26-2009, 07:33 AM
i dont know maybe more uCode Updates lol

lawtq
07-29-2009, 12:24 PM
This thread has died, just writing something to keep it alive!

KingOfsorroW
07-31-2009, 02:03 PM
I'll help - just bought the motherboard, and I wonder do I need to change TIM on it?...

Rubycon
07-31-2009, 08:00 PM
Turbo throttling on this board is worse than P6T6. Multiplier is 20.5 on 3520 running Linpack. (CPU drops from 4200 to 4100). Also for some strange reason this board brickwalls at about 200 BCLK. The pipes get hot too!

Fire4Wire
08-02-2009, 01:53 PM
any newer bios then 0305 arround the world?

KingOfsorroW
08-02-2009, 05:04 PM
any newer bios then 0305 arround the world?

I have no idea... Is 0305 better than 0303 btw?

A?????Z
08-03-2009, 03:04 AM
Bios Beta Version 0402 for the Asus P6T7WS.


http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y

jamiee
08-03-2009, 04:22 AM
Bios Beta Version 0402 for the Asus P6T7WS.


http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y


Thanks'
Might try this one later.

... Now off to install my new Enermax Galaxay EVO 1250W PSU :D

Fire4Wire
08-03-2009, 05:13 AM
Bios Beta Version 0402 for the Asus P6T7WS.


http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y



i love you
i hope we get more beta bios from you in the future
many thx

lawtq
08-03-2009, 07:20 AM
i love you
i hope we get more beta bios from you in the future
many thx

Give us feedback on this bios 0402 please, Currently using my classified board as fed up with bclck limit and throttling on this p6t7

lawtq
08-03-2009, 07:29 AM
I'll help - just bought the motherboard, and I wonder do I need to change TIM on it?...

I changed my TIM but noticed no difference. It actually comes with thermal paste and pads on the chips, I've never seen that on a board yet, both pads and paste on the chips??

Raberduck
08-03-2009, 01:47 PM
Bios Beta Version 0402 for the Asus P6T7WS.


http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y

Hi,

thx

KingOfsorroW
08-03-2009, 02:13 PM
I changed my TIM but noticed no difference. It actually comes with thermal paste and pads on the chips, I've never seen that on a board yet, both pads and paste on the chips??

yeah that's odd. Well, i decided not to change it and it looks like it was the right thing to do - the stock cooling sytem does its job very well.

Rubycon
08-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Give us feedback on this bios 0402 please, Currently using my classified board as fed up with bclck limit and throttling on this p6t7

Both are still present in this BIOS. There is no option to disable turbo throttling! :mad:

unclewebb
08-03-2009, 10:15 PM
The word from Asus was that they do not intend to publicly release a bios that disables turbo throttling on any of their P6T series of motherboards. Hopefully they will secretly release a few more one off specials like bios 0007 and 0006 that successfully fixed turbo throttling on the P6T Deluxe v1 boards. If any more special bios versions come my way, I will be sure to share them.

crashmax
08-04-2009, 10:53 AM
Bios Beta Version 0402 for the Asus P6T7WS.


http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y

Thank you!!!

KingOfsorroW
08-04-2009, 02:00 PM
I'd like to know the reason why the multiplier throttling occures. Is it because of the way it works, or there is another reason like high temps or insufficient voltage?

unclewebb
08-04-2009, 05:09 PM
Here' what the Intel Turbo White Paper has to say:
http://download.intel.com/design/processor/applnots/320354.pdf
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.2 Dependencies / Algorithm

Intel® Turbo Boost technology core frequency upside availability is ultimately constrained by power delivery limits, but within those constraints, it is limited by the following factors:

• The estimated current consumption of the processor
• The estimated power consumption of the processor
• The temperature of the processor

The number of active cores at any given instant dictates the upper limit of Intel® Turbo Boost technology. For this discussion, a core is considered ‘active’ if it is in the “C0” or “C1” state; cores in the “C3” or “C6” state are considered ‘inactive’. The upper limits will vary on a per processor number basis.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On the P6T based boards, Asus followed the Intel design spec and didn't give users any way to disable turbo throttling. Other motherboard manufacturers decided to turn off this protection so users could overclock as high as they want without any issues and other boards give you the option to enable or disable this feature in the bios.

KingOfsorroW
08-04-2009, 05:47 PM
ok so it's not just the temps but also the current and the power the cpu consumes (thoough I don't see the difference between the two)... Thanks for the link, unclewebb! I get it now.

unclewebb
08-04-2009, 09:13 PM
I believe the official numbers by default are 100 amps or 130 Watts.

Fire4Wire
08-06-2009, 02:39 AM
is there an new beta bios out?
i think i saw beta 0404 on a china site

maybe A?????Z can help or i was blind

KingOfsorroW
08-06-2009, 06:51 AM
How to set the cpu voltage below 1.4v?
I set it to 1.25v but it reads as 1.4v in hardware monitoring section in bios or cpuz ...
EDIT: nevermind, the OV_CPU switch was enabled :cool:

theoldtimer
08-07-2009, 05:33 AM
I’ve been watching this thread for some bios fixes for the turbo throttling and hopefully an improvement of the max BCLK. I like the quantity and spacing of the PCIe 2.0 x16 slots.
My question, has anyone successfully used four separate Nvidia GFX cards (quad-SLI) on the P6T7 or is it even possible to run quad-SLI on four separate GFX cards? The drivers work with four GPU’s (2X295’s).

JackOfAll
08-07-2009, 08:13 AM
My question, has anyone successfully used four separate Nvidia GFX cards (quad-SLI) on the P6T7 or is it even possible to run quad-SLI on four separate GFX cards? The drivers work with four GPU’s (2X295’s).

You're limited to 2 or 3-way SLI with single GPU cards. Quad SLI == 2x GTX295. A friend is running a pair of GTX295's in a P6T7 and gaming with quad SLI.

I run 4x GTX295 cards in a P6T7 folding rig, but this is not an SLI config, a max of 2x GTX295's are supported for quad SLI. A couple of pics of this setup are in this other thread, EK-FC295 GTX Single PCB - Released! (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3940134&postcount=29).

theoldtimer
08-07-2009, 12:08 PM
You're limited to 2 or 3-way SLI with single GPU cards. Quad SLI == 2x GTX295. A friend is running a pair of GTX295's in a P6T7 and gaming with quad SLI.

I run 4x GTX295 cards in a P6T7 folding rig, but this is not an SLI config, a max of 2x GTX295's are supported for quad SLI. A couple of pics of this setup are in this other thread, EK-FC295 GTX Single PCB - Released! (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3940134&postcount=29).

Thanks for the reply. I viewed your four 295 rig, that’s impressive.

blaxtr3m3
08-09-2009, 01:04 AM
You're limited to 2 or 3-way SLI with single GPU cards. Quad SLI == 2x GTX295. A friend is running a pair of GTX295's in a P6T7 and gaming with quad SLI.

I run 4x GTX295 cards in a P6T7 folding rig, but this is not an SLI config, a max of 2x GTX295's are supported for quad SLI. A couple of pics of this setup are in this other thread, EK-FC295 GTX Single PCB - Released! (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3940134&postcount=29).

respect :clap:

vannguyen0
08-09-2009, 07:49 PM
I have this motherboard, a i7 965, and some Corsair Dominator 6GB DDR3-1866mhz memory... I'm a noob at core i7 overclocking - can someone help me get to 4GHz?!?!?!?!!

KingOfsorroW
08-10-2009, 08:47 AM
I have this motherboard, a i7 965, and some Corsair Dominator 6GB DDR3-1866mhz memory... I'm a noob at core i7 overclocking - can someone help me get to 4GHz?!?!?!?!!

1. Spread Spectrums, speedste, c-state, c1 - disabled
2. Ai overclock tuner - manual
3. cpu ratio 20
4. BCLK - 200
5. dram frequency - ddr3-1600
6. cpu voltage - 1.3v
7. memory settings to the recommended ones set manually
8. run prime95 small ffts 8 hours to see if you'r stable

you have an unclocked cpu multiplier I guess so you may try different cpu/bclk ratios
Good Luck

vannguyen0
08-10-2009, 09:08 AM
1. Spread Spectrums, speedste, c-state, c1 - disabled
2. Ai overclock tuner - manual
3. cpu ratio 20
4. BCLK - 200
5. dram frequency - ddr3-1600
6. cpu voltage - 1.3v
7. memory settings to the recommended ones set manually
8. run prime95 small ffts 8 hours to see if you'r stable

you have an unclocked cpu multiplier I guess so you may try different cpu/bclk ratios
Good Luck

King,

Before I posted, I tried:

disabled all spread spectrum settings, speedstep, etc
cpu ration 20
BCLK - 166
dram frequency - ddr3-1600
cpu voltage 1.3v
configured my memory timings/voltage accordingly

But even with those settings, the system would not boot (bluescreen almost instantly).

Are there any additional voltage settings (IOH, etc) I need to change? Also, for cooling purposes, I have a Thermalright IFX-14 with two120mm fans. I also have one rear 120mm and two top mounted 120mm exhaust fans (one front 120mm intake). I think that should be enough to keep the i7 965 and case cool.

KingOfsorroW
08-10-2009, 09:29 AM
vannguyen0,
You may try uppping the cpu voltage and leaving memory timings on auto, but keeping the dram voltage at 1.64v. It is not necessary to change anything else I guess. It's strange though that you have a bsod at those settings.
Sorry man, idk what else to recommend you to do :shrug:

Rubycon
08-10-2009, 12:36 PM
I have two P6T7 boards - one has a BCLK wall at 200 and the other goes much higher like my Classified. So it seems overclockability with these boards varies just like processors!

vannguyen0
08-10-2009, 01:09 PM
I have two P6T7 boards - one has a BCLK wall at 200 and the other goes much higher like my Classified. So it seems overclockability with these boards varies just like processors!

That's not good for me...

Does anyone know what a "safe" voltage is for the cpu? At 1.3v, I remember it being orange in color in the BIOS. Haven't pushed it to the point where it becomes red, but what is the highest you would do on air?

Rubycon
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Highest I'd go on air translates to LinX temps <85C. If you need 1.45 (actual under load) vcore to be LinX stable but hit 95C that's too high.

joetheboss
08-13-2009, 03:09 AM
What is the newest beta bios? anybody?

Fire4Wire
08-13-2009, 04:34 AM
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1287440&da=y

vannguyen0
08-25-2009, 11:15 AM
Hey, got a quick question about the esata ports. How would you "disconnect" an esata drive? There's no option to do so like you would for a usb drive.

crashmax
09-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Hey Guys

Got my new i7 950 and my P6T7 loves that Chip.

Max. BCLK so far 215 (I know, the Classified will do 230 or more...) with no extra tuning.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/fsxsettingsuyno.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=fsxsettingsuyno.png) http://www.abload.de/thumb/4600ramspeedhehn.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=4600ramspeedhehn.png)

QPI Voltage = 1.50

Woody-san
09-02-2009, 06:10 PM
Se7en:


My P6T7 finally arrived, and in my haste, I booted the 02xx BIOS on the i7 975XE on it - instant "FF". Quickly switching to the i7 920 D0 and flashing to 0303 fixed that in a jiffy.


Cross-fire setup on my test jig:

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2198&d=1251021806



- Asus P6T7 SuperComputer (0303)
- Core i7 975 XE 3903Axxx
- 6GB San Max SMD-6G88N)-16H (Hyper)T Limiteds :)
- Crossfire 4870 *2 (790/1000)
- Corsair 620HX



Quick Bench:

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/668652.png

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=668652

KingOfsorroW
09-03-2009, 06:35 AM
This board is fantastic, all I can say :D

jamiee
09-03-2009, 02:11 PM
Se7en:


My P6T7 finally arrived, and in my haste, I booted the 02xx BIOS on the i7 975XE on it - instant "FF". Quickly switching to the i7 920 D0 and flashing to 0303 fixed that in a jiffy.


Wow..... 1.55v with the stock cooler??
Do I smell burnt CPU :eek: