umm..... ITS HERE!!!!

[alphadog009]

8 cores ftw....

Intel just :owned: AMD... psh trying to act all cool with their measly 6-core...

http://hothardware.com/News/Intel-Unveils-NehalemEX-OctalCore-Server-CPU/

and ...

youtube video is coming, will edit later cuz youtube is down

[jcniest5]

And it's gonna cost about $3000 per CPU?

[alphadog009]

its expected.... kinda high imo, but as with anything, it will get cheaper...

its the bleeding edge and we can expect something else cool...


Scalability beyond eight sockets, up to 32-socket implementations can be achieved.

[WaterFlex]

Wonderfull news ! Great chip :up:

[Oberon]

8 cores ftw....

Intel just :owned: AMD... psh trying to act all cool with their measly 6-core...

http://hothardware.com/News/Intel-Unveils-NehalemEX-OctalCore-Server-CPU/

and ...

youtube video is coming, will edit later cuz youtube is down

The difference is, however, that AMD's power envelope didn't increase and the CPU will be available soon.

[alphadog009]

The difference is, however, that AMD's power envelope didn't increase and the CPU will be available soon.

heres the way i see it...

AMD is capable of producing the best "bang for buck" processors, to use a cliched term, Phenom II case in point, ability to drop in to existing systems...

Intel has the obvious performance edge but they also have something else... a full line of processors that span beyond just the high end or just the low end. Problems with Intel is that they feel the need to release a new chipset every year or two... why?? who knows... its obviously for the money but i guess its also because of the fact that their technologies keep getting better.

in other terms, i think that Intel is better than AMD as far as market share goes because a huge majority of the "early adopters" such as the people on these forums will be looking forward to such chips. Intel is immaculate in their timing but releasing this right after the AMD release of 6-core, baisically baiting all early adopters with promise of a better chip.

oh and:


The Intel Nehalem-EX is scheduled for production in the second half of 2009///

not too far off....

[lutjens]

And it's gonna cost about $3000 per CPU?

Class leading CPU, quantum leap in server performance, untouchable by any x86 CPU on the planet? Highly doubtful....I'd put money on the bet that the price will be minimum $3999 or greater, with high likelihood on the greater for the top chip. Intel knows this thing rocks and will be guaranteed to make you pay for the privilege...;)

[ILikeCosmosS]

fail= the reason being i dont see many people buying these because the motherboard is going to be expensive anyway and the fact that intel is probably producing more of them than selling them

even though it is awesome the average consumer is never use it because all they need is netbooks and the average system builders arent going to spend that much money

[Chad Boga]

fail= the reason being i dont see many people buying these because the motherboard is going to be expensive anyway and the fact that intel is probably producing more of them than selling them

What is that supposed to mean? :nuts:

[GFORCE100]

fail= the reason being i dont see many people buying these because the motherboard is going to be expensive anyway and the fact that intel is probably producing more of them than selling them

even though it is awesome the average consumer is never use it because all they need is netbooks and the average system builders arent going to spend that much money

Intel is not some small cranny business locked in some shed. You can never produce as much as you will sell 1:1 but you can get darn close. It's business logic and doing otherwise is detrimental to ROI. Producing more of a product than you actually can sell (and do sell) is bad business practice.

All new high-end designs start with a very small production number and then scale over time, once demand grows and the given design trickles down into lesser models.

Besides the Xeon series isn't meant for "people" as it's a server chip which goes into servers which in turn businesses buy. If businesses can get more PPW then they will buy them most likely depending on the current and forecast workload.

System builders will spend as much money as necessary if there's a market for the given type of product. Also, OEM's don't spend the money as they invest it since they are not the customer as such, the end users (consumers) and businesses are.

[alphadog009]

Its definitely something thats gonna take off in the next couple of years, as we saw with the transition from core 2 duo to core 2 quad to eventually nehalem... as to the people who say who needs it... look back 2-2 1/2 years and who needed more than 1 core??? nobody... now look, quad cores are becoming the norm as we speak... just when you think 2 is enough, you need more, etc. etc, call it a marketing gimmick by CPU companies but at least its new technology...

[Fafeifa]

how much power will this system need? :shocked:

[Anth Seebel]

meh.. more memory bandwidth meh

i would prefer huge gains in the 4 native core architecture for gaming/ app's.. :D

[KILLER_K]

Agreed, just wished software would catch up. As no one really needs this I7 4 physical and 4 logical cores setup. Nothing a general user has can even benefit from it. I like to see things move foward, but i would like time to let us actually get to use the cpu's to the full potential...................


Good Day

[denice25]

that's great.....thanks for the link...

[alphadog009]

well i just heard something interesting... supposedly, there is enough technology out there for us to have insane number of cores on a single cpu, apparently cpu companies are trying to make as much money out of this as possible and are stopping the development towards such high core chips. im talking a huge amount here. For example, its not that hard for intel to integrate memory controller, northbridge, and gpu on a single cpu, that must mean its real easy to get high core numbers.... just a thought....

[Sn@ke:~]

heres the way i see it...

AMD is capable of producing the best "bang for buck" processors, to use a cliched term, Phenom II case in point, ability to drop in to existing systems...

Intel has the obvious performance edge but they also have something else... a full line of processors that span beyond just the high end or just the low end. Problems with Intel is that they feel the need to release a new chipset every year or two... why?? who knows... its obviously for the money but i guess its also because of the fact that their technologies keep getting better.

in other terms, i think that Intel is better than AMD as far as market share goes because a huge majority of the "early adopters" such as the people on these forums will be looking forward to such chips. Intel is immaculate in their timing but releasing this right after the AMD release of 6-core, baisically baiting all early adopters with promise of a better chip.

oh and: not too far off....

They are looking at building the first quantum PC they are going all in. Skynet <-- I'll be back :D

[donkon]

is there a need for a cpu on such speed for a normal user? I don't see the reasoning, but server wise, yeah theres a point to it, i don't think they will sell this as much as they sold the i7's

[i found nemo]

lol that's awesome.

[DementeD]

i read that amd will have 12cores in 2010..after doing this 6core release they plan to "glue" two of those together like the c2q's and release it..so i really dont see amd being that far off in the server world...where this chip will hit im sure..

[Sn@ke:~]

is there a need for a cpu on such speed for a normal user? I don't see the reasoning, but server wise, yeah theres a point to it, i don't think they will sell this as much as they sold the i7's

Yes there is, but not for standard consumer. BTW it is a server chip not gaming!....

[ben805]

wait...did i see 16 threads with HT on? I guess underload in Prime95 will be in the 150C :lol: what's the tjmax on this thing anyway

[i found nemo]

i read that amd will have 12cores in 2010..after doing this 6core release they plan to "glue" two of those together like the c2q's and release it..so i really dont see amd being that far off in the server world...where this chip will hit im sure..

yea, i just hope thier 6 core release goes well. u have to consider, in most cases amd would be drop in-compatible. whereas, intel u might need new mobo, and maybe power supply!! lol j/k ... or maybe? :shrug: but hooray for intel. new technology has to be respected, no matter who makes it. :yepp:

[alphadog009]

i have a feeling that the guys at amd are cursing intel for releasing this what 2 weeks after the release of their 6 core... true perhaps this may take a while to make it into the consumer market but it is still impressive along with intels development of a processor with nb and mem controller and possibly gpu on it.... cant seem to remember the codename for it, please enlighten me....