I Propose a 3dmark Strike

[TechTones]

Yes a strike against submitting any more results on the ORB..till

The video card companies and the motherboard companies both of whom we all support especially the top Orbers submit prizes for us.

You guys spend big bucks to get these scores and countless time and effect.

But what you really get for your hard work?
Just congrats from us. That may be enough for you but I think you're getting sold short. It's us and you Orbers that keep this wheel of hardware hype going with real proof. This means FREE ADVERTISING for these companies.

Every time you submit a top score, people look at WHAT CARD you are using. WHAT MOTHERBOARD are they using. This adds to sales for them. I say we're getting short changed BIG TIME.

Why don't these video card and motherboard companies supply either cash prizes or hardware every month or two for the top 3 winners? Can't all these companies together throw us something?

Number one it would create even more intense competition, but you guys would get something in return for
BUYING ALL THEIR PRODUCTS TO GET THESE SCORES.

I propose a "3dmark strike" Heck 3dmark themselves should give away the prizes. it's their bench. You guys are basically being used by them to promote their product and the biggest joke is you have to spend all your own money to do this for them.

How about a STRIKE and a PETITION to accomplish these goals?

What say you?
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

[jmg823]

theres alot of people out there that dont care about prizes. its more of a hobby for them. i doubt for a couple people here out of thousands/millions they would listen to us

but i do agree it is free advertising for these big companies

[RichBa5tard]

It's not because your hobby / obsession happens to benefit some company they should pay you for it.

Uh no wait, wasn't that what sports are all about? : )

I'm afraid sponsoring the top #3 wouldn't be a good thing. Like someone metioned a while ago, we don't want the top 10 existing out of users who have recieved 'cherry picked samples' from their sponsor.

[Peen]

Originally posted by TechTones
But what you really get for your hard work?


Your the ones that are Choosing to do it :stick:

[TechTones]

At this point Bastard :) I wouldn't worry about that.

I would be interested in seeing some real hard ass competition
when people compete for prizes or money.

WHat I'm saying I'm sick of these hardware companies trying to cheat us with fixed drivers, crap boards, and other disrespect while we spend hard earned money to promote them.

Believe me, these guys are kinda laughing at all the free press they're getting, especially 3dmark.

These companies make millions but can't sponsor a contest monthly or even every quarter year with something in return for us?

Why can't they for instance put up a prize as a beta tester or reviewer for one of their new boards if someone wins?
Like they review it here in the forums for us and get to fool around with it before it comes out.

Something, anything. It can the top 5 people then, doesn't have to be 3.

Maybe we can think of a better way for these prizes to be awarded?

[TechTones]

Originally posted by Peen
Your the ones that are Choosing to do it :stick:

Yes we are choosing to do it. Thats' the whole point. We do it
for ourselves but we also keep the business wheel spinning for them. Free press daily for 3dmark.

If nobody submitted 3dmark scores, and didn't hype video cards and boards for them, half the people on this froum wouldn't know which of the boards or cards were good and there wouldn't be so much business for these companies.

When people see top scores, what card are they using? What CPU? What board? What cooling?

Do you see my point?

[Sovereignty]

Would be nice but people dont bench for prizes. If manufacturers get free publicity, so be it. They deserve it for making a good product. When you start to bench for prizes/cash it's no longer a hobby.

[sinn]

you make a valid point, but organizing something like this would be a feat indeed

bragging rights are enough for most, including myself, not that i would turn down a prize

[TechTones]

Well,

if we got even ONE company to pony up, the rest would follow in fear of being left out.

I say we start with ATI and Nvidia since they are tying to out do
each other.

Show them a petition signed by us asking to be treated fairly and let them know how we feel about all this. 3dmark too.

They should really pony up something.

[sinn]

definately worth a shot, a petition is much better idea than a strike

[TechTones]

So who is willing to to host a place to show all the people's names for this?

[SoulEdge]

http://www.petitiononline.com/

[TechTones]

Originally posted by SoulEdge
http://www.petitiononline.com/

Well dat's cool :D

Now we need to word it properly.

[TechTones]

OK guys, I wrote this up. Please add to it, correct it, whatever before it gets posted.




We the undersigned, feel we do not get enough deserved attention when it comes to reciprecation by companies like 3dmark, ATI and Nvidia, and the motherboard makers for our contribution to the hardware scene. Not to forget the CPU makers.

Namely, we are talking about 3dmark and the participants in it which submit results on the ORB. These same participants spend their own money on expensive video cards {mostly ATI and Nvidia based graphic cards} on motherboards, and CPU's that accompany them when making these scores possible.

When these participants post high scores on the ORB, everyone first wants to know how they did it. What VIDEO CARD did they use? I want that same card. What motherboard did they use? I want one too. What CPU?

In our eyes this is FREE ADVERTISING for all these products especially 3dmark itself. We promote the product every single day on the ORB and in benchmark discussions as well as all the other products.

Without us, 3dmark itself, and all the video cards used for this purpose would suffer a slump in hype and sales and recognition. We, the undersigned, keep this business wheel spinning for all of you.

So what do we get in return from all this attention and hype to your products when we constantly upgrade to YOUR new hardware to post the highest and best 3dmark scores?

We get nothing but self satisfaction. But this is not enough in our eyes anymore. We feel we do more then out part in all of this. We want to be noticed and respected.

We are asking you, the card companies namely ATI and Nvidia, the big motherboard makers like Abit, Asus, Epox and MSI, the CPU manufacturers
{that's you AMD and Intel} to give something back to us.

We are not asking for anything most unsual. We are proposing some cash prizes or hardware prizes and contests for attaining these highest 3dmark scores. Give something back to us and give us a good reason to keep supporting you and posting these 3dmark scores.

This helps all parties involved. Number one it will produce more intense competition among us. This means more of your products will be sold. When you sponsor a prize for the Orb, you are getting great advertising and making yourself look good in our eyes. We are loyal people who remember who treats us with right and with respect. It's only fair.

One hand washes the other. You need us and we need you. Let's turn this into something great!

Each month or so, one or all of these said companies will sponsor a prize for that month. We can have say 3 top winners. So 3 prizes.
Whether yoour company would like to offer cold hard cash so those that win, can use that prize money towards the next best video card, or motherboard, or CPU.

See our point?

Please, all we ask is you, to see us, your greatest customers, as the force we are, and how we contribute above and beyond the call of duty
to all sales and hype surrounding these said products and 3Dmark scores. We keep the wheel spinning.

Will you supply the oil??

[Sovereignty]

I tried to read that but strangely I couldn't take my eyes off your avatar.

I'm not a huge fan of the "personal touch" you gave this. It sounds so informal. Things like "Not to forget the cpu makers" and "thats you ATI and nvidia" make it sound a lot less professional, which obviously isnt what corporations like that want to see. Just my two cents.

[Hallowed]

I think my man LD is blazed. ;)

[Aldus]

Theres always the posibility of fakes as well. I think if this started happening people would start to research how to cheat and see what hardware would be needed to get a certian score and make it look believeable, unlike the 29k gf3.

[TechTones]

Originally posted by Sovereignty
I tried to read that but strangely I couldn't take my eyes off your avatar.

I'm not a huge fan of the "personal touch" you gave this. It sounds so informal. Things like "Not to forget the cpu makers" and "thats you ATI and nvidia" make it sound a lot less professional, which obviously isnt what corporations like that want to see. Just my two cents.

You like my little buddy eh? ;)

Ok this is why I asked for feedback. I did it late last night after watching people drink beer in a commercial. :toast:

[TechTones]

Originally posted by Hallowed
I think my man LD is blazed. ;)


So wuza uppa? :rocker:

[TechTones]

Originally posted by Aldus
Theres always the posibility of fakes as well. I think if this started happening people would start to research how to cheat and see what hardware would be needed to get a certian score and make it look believeable, unlike the 29k gf3.

No different then what's happening right now though.

Should they rest of us good honest dudes suffer because of some cheaters?

Plus, we guys are way astute. We would be able to spot a cheat
pretty easily with our knowledge of hardware.

It's a good point though.

[jmg823]

but what would suck is that the people getting the prizes would keep winning because they would keep being supplyed with nice prizes

[Marci]

The entire idea sucks (basically) for multiple reasons... none of which I can get my head round to put into words.... but I'm sure someone will eventually.

[TechTones]

I've killed it anyway due to non participation....

[ALT-F13]

LOL. Well, it will be better if they just return normal Hall of Fame instead of cr*ppy 03 one :)
But (being on #5) i must admit that somewhere in my heart i found that idea of prizes for top-5 is great :D LMAO. Don't take it serious...

Interesting to hear OPP, Macci, Fugger and others... But i think that most will say "No". Prizes will kill the joy, we do it for fun not for money... Hobby will become a sport.

[Marci]

Just as long as they don't update Fastest WebMaster... I think I've sat on top of that one for over a year now!! lol...

[TheDude]

First Prize: We send Marci over to your house with a dremel and a case of beer to custom mod your pc.:D

[Iridium192_217]

Originally posted by TechTones
Yes a strike against submitting any more results on the ORB..till

The video card companies and the motherboard companies both of whom we all support especially the top Orbers submit prizes for us.

You guys spend big bucks to get these scores and countless time and effect.

But what you really get for your hard work?
Just congrats from us. That may be enough for you but I think you're getting sold short. It's us and you Orbers that keep this wheel of hardware hype going with real proof. This means FREE ADVERTISING for these companies.

Every time you submit a top score, people look at WHAT CARD you are using. WHAT MOTHERBOARD are they using. This adds to sales for them. I say we're getting short changed BIG TIME.

Why don't these video card and motherboard companies supply either cash prizes or hardware every month or two for the top 3 winners? Can't all these companies together throw us something?

Number one it would create even more intense competition, but you guys would get something in return for
BUYING ALL THEIR PRODUCTS TO GET THESE SCORES.

I propose a "3dmark strike" Heck 3dmark themselves should give away the prizes. it's their bench. You guys are basically being used by them to promote their product and the biggest joke is you have to spend all your own money to do this for them.

How about a STRIKE and a PETITION to accomplish these goals?

What say you?
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

I disagree, no one forces us to benchmark.

*Cues Mr. Pink scene from Reservoir Dogs with the worlds smallest violin*

[SaturnTR]

This is a pointless idea. Overclocking is just like tuning a race car, but do you feel that you should get the car free because you were able to make it go the fastest?

I personally would turn down any prizes offered from a company. If you did accept and didn't do well with it they would be down your throat about it.

Overclocking is a hobby, not a sport. If we start earning money/prizes from our scores then where's the glory at? We'd all be a bunch of sellouts. Not to mention it'd ruin the hope of others being able to compete as we would be the ones getting everything free while others would be paying out the ass.

Also, alot of companies already do sponsor benchers. Take 3DMAXX for example, nVentiv sponsors our high rollers...I also believe that MSI sponsors OPP...

Now a good idea might would be to maybe let the #1 score every month go in a magazine such as Maximum PC is this could somehow be worked out...That would be extremely cool in my opinion....

It would be to hard to sponsor the "top 3" anyways as it is constantly changing. The only way a company can do this is like what they do now, sponsor a site. XTWerkz I believe sponsors XS? nVentiv sponsors 3DMAXX, etc.....Do you get what I'm trying to get accross?

[Slickthellama]

the reward for these guys is so much more than a prize. It is realizing you have the best PC in your continent and or nation and or world! That means alot more than some silly prizes. I totally disagree with this idea. Im sure people would also put alot more time into cheating if prizes were given.

[Marci]

First Prize: We send Marci over to your house with a dremel and a case of beer to custom mod your pc

lol... nah.... takes too long! Jigsaw and a bottle of JackDaniels... speed moddin'!

[TheDude]

Originally posted by Marci
lol... nah.... takes too long! Jigsaw and a bottle of JackDaniels... speed moddin'!

Sounds like a dangerous combo!! :D

[SPQQKY]

We are all advertising for these big companies. Every sig I see usually has system specs in it and of course the name of the mobo and gfx card. So when we browse the forums we see hundreds of little billboards.