HD3300 a.k.a. 790GX graphics challenge :)

[tiborrr]

Hi guys,

just started to play some 3D with the onboard graphics on my M4A78T-E and thought to show Massman some love :) Only ran '01SE & AM3, the rest of the test will follow soon. This GPU does at least 1160MHz for benches, with some subzero 1300MHz shouldn't be too far away, but i left it on 1100MHz to better compare to others. SidePort memory is giving me issues though, it always freezes my system in Nature & LH at 666MHz. I guess i have to work around SidePort voltage a bit.

System:
Phenom II X3 720BE @ 3.75GHz (couldn't push further on air :down:)
M4A78T-E
2x512MB Micron D9HXT @ 833 6-x-6-18 1T
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax9 IDE HDD
LCPower 420W (the cheapest)

3DMark2001SE: 29.038 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=1&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/15/oO/4rLz8A0t/290381100-5333750.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?15/oO/4rLz8A0t/290381100-5333750.png)

Aquamark3: 76.538 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=10&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/18/iv/1rPe4ujP/am3765381100-5333750.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?18/iv/1rPe4ujP/am3765381100-5333750.jpg)

What do you say if we make some sort of internal never-ending competition in HD3300/3200 clocking? Everybody's welcome! :cool:

Best Regards,
Niko :up:

[tiborrr]

Okay, just a small update, i have some faculty related stuff to do.
P.S.: 3DMark03 wouldn't boot at all :shakes:

Still on aircooling!

System:
Phenom II X3 720BE @ 3.75GHz
M4A78T-E
2x512MB Micron D9HXT @ 833 6-x-6-18 1T
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax9 IDE HDD
LCPower 420W

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2001SE: 29.166 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=1&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/3R/I3/3uz3jJuj/291661120-5333750.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3R/I3/3uz3jJuj/291661120-5333750.png)

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif Aquamark 3: 77.935 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=10&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/C/IV/S799qng/am3779351140-5333750.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?C/IV/S799qng/am3779351140-5333750.jpg)

[massman]

Awesome!! :D

When I was reviewing the M3A78, I tried to get all golden cups for the overclocking section of the article and it actually took me quite some time to get them all. Everytime when I was ready to push the "publish"-button, someone took one of my WR's. In the end, I spent my entire weekend on the GPU overclocking ...

I kept the board for future benching, but I'm pretty sure I'll be needing a DDR3 motherboard to keep up with your benching. In any case, nice clocks. What voltage are you running the IGP at?

[tiborrr]

Thanks Massman! :yepp: Believe me, it took some time to surpass your score given the fact i couldn't reach your CPU speed and the fact that high speed CL5 DDR2 is still standing strong.

Yup, the Vgpu voltage is set to 1.36V in BIOS. It's a bit tricky since I have to overclock my GPU through BIOS only (AOD3 doesn't want to clock GPU core speed). I am planning a bit of home-made dry ice GPU chilling (made myself DIY DICE dispenser from CO2 high-pressure tank) and perhaps even some liquid nitrogen if the GPU will still operate at sub DICE temperature.

As you may have noticed this IGP is literraly craving for more raw power & bandwidth. I am sure 30.000 isn't that far away.

Looking forward to see your comeback! :up:

Best Regards,
Niko

[Krelin]

Now this is nice! :up: Always loved to see some IGP action! Looking forward for some sick scores. ;)

[stangracin2]

nice.

i'd jump in here but my m4a78t-e died a week ago.

[massman]

Studying time is over for today, time to start playing. At the moment, I'm still trying to find the maximum clock frequencies of this setup. I already made some nice progress in comparison to the previous bench session, still on air and using the same (high) voltages, though. HT Link frequency is pretty nice :)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/29058.png

[tiborrr]

Excellent Massman! Looking forward to this challenge, I already see it's going to be darn exciting! :cool:

HT Link frequency is pretty nice
The key to success :up: Gotta raise my HTT a bit, still figuring out best RAM/HTT/NB combo. X3 720BEs are noticably worse with NB/HTT/RAM clocking :down:

P.S.: How many Vhtt did you feed her for 2880MHz?

@stangracin: No problem buddy, RMA it and join us when you can :up:

[chew*]

I'll be back to play with you guys whenever I get done playing with the big boys...I had fun with the IGP. I think I gotta load up some more back ups :D You guys have the upper hand though , I don't use LOD. Maybe i'll pick up a UD4H so I don't have the kickstart the ds4h everytime I cold boot it. :ROTF: Those microns or Promos massman?

[tiborrr]

Chew*, welcome aboard. Ya better pull out some big ones! :) But i'm affraid LOD is mandatory here, otherwise all overclocking doesn't do much. I'm still figuring out the best LOD combos for each subtest in 2001SE.

Now, 2003 is mine for the moment, currently working on getting higher HT or at least CPU speed without bringing out my hefty cooling gear :):

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2003: 9.006 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=2&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/F/Pn/2x4luadY/3dm0390063750.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?F/Pn/2x4luadY/3dm0390063750.png)

[massman]

Excellent Massman! Looking forward to this challenge, I already see it's going to be darn exciting! :cool:

The key to success :up: Gotta raise my HTT a bit, still figuring out best RAM/HTT/NB combo. X3 720BEs are noticably worse with NB/HTT/RAM clocking :down:

P.S.: How many Vhtt did you feed her for 2880MHz?

@stangracin: No problem buddy, RMA it and join us when you can :up:

Yes, the HT Link frequency is extremely important. Never have I seen such impressive scaling of a, at first sight, insignificant frequency. When I was benching the IGP a few weeks ago, I had a boost of 1K in 01 just by increasing the HT Link multiplier by 1.

Before you start raising the HTT frequency, please think about all the frequencies that are affected by this base clock frequency. There's a reason why I handicap myself by using the 1066MHz memory divider instead of the more performant 800MHz one. And yes, I am able to run 325MHz HTT.

I've actually thrown out my 720BE and replaced it with my 940BE because it's so bad in overclocking. 3500MHz and 2500MHz NB is just too little for this IGP ... YES, the cpu was bottlenecking me :p:

I'm running Ludicrous voltages on air, to be honest, but it seems that everything is running just fine, so no worries. 1.4v vHT to answer your question.

By the way, can you set the voltage of the IGP seperate from the voltage of the actual northbridge? I can't, so I always figured I was running 1.6v through the IGP, but since you're only at 1.36v and I've been reading voltages from the board that say ~1.3v I suspect the vIGP is derived from the vNB somehow on this motherboard.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/29265.png

I'll be back to play with you guys whenever I get done playing with the big boys...I had fun with the IGP. I think I gotta load up some more back ups :D You guys have the upper hand though , I don't use LOD. Maybe i'll pick up a UD4H so I don't have the kickstart the ds4h everytime I cold boot it. :ROTF: Those microns or Promos massman?

Lods actually make a giant difference with these cards. Even a small increase can make you score go up quite a bit.

I'm using the old Crucial Ballistix here. No idea what chips are under it, though.

[chew*]

Heh I don't need LOD I got mach 1 power :D

[tiborrr]

You need LOD and you need it bad - right choice gives at least 50% nature boost, hell even system tests profit hefty with it :cool:

I know what you mean Massman, i just swapped my D9HXT's out in favor of some OCZ DDR3-1800 CL8 1.95V kit (unknown IC, perhaps Samsung - tested on Intel they don't like tight timings) in order to achieve the needed bandwidth(s) :)

[Zeus]

I'm using the old Crucial Ballistix here. No idea what chips are under it, though.

Micron D9GMH. ;)

Very nice challenge here, shame i have a 790FX chipset. :(

Keep pushing it guys! :up:

[tiborrr]

Your turn, Massman :up:

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2001SE: 29.406 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=1&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)

http://www.shrani.si/t/F/Gh/4YaORWVX/294061120-5333778.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?F/Gh/4YaORWVX/294061120-5333778.png)
(ORB: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9497806 )
P.S.: I never do backups :p:

On this particular motherboard Vgpu is also binded to Vnb, no other voltage dividers are available. I still find it very funny for a CPU to hold back a simple IGP. Who would have thought? :)

I have issues with clocking memory over 860MHz, no matter what timings. I've lost more points while using 2x1GB OCZ 1800 kit than what i have gained due to higher frequency :( Well, i've placed my HXTs into black slots, they seem to like them more than orange ones. I couldn't have passed 3DMark at these speeds/latencies.

@Zeus: Too bad. If your board - god forbids! - dies, buy a 790GX type and join the fun! :cool:

[massman]

So you are running Vnb at 1.36v then? Problem is that I can only control the Vigp through the Vnb (~your setup), but the voltage of the Vnb is around 0.3v higher than the Vigp, which means I have to go up a lot in Vnb to run 1100MHz core frequency. The heat itself isn't really a problem, but I'm not sure the NB likes that much voltage ... and I still have to perform the Vnb voltage modification.

At first, I was amazed by the CPU bottleneck as well, but it actually makes a lot of sense ... we are still benching an AMD platform here :p:.

On AM3, it's not really that interesting to search for raw memory frequency since the platform prefers latency over bandwidth. Tony made a nice comparison in the AMD section where you can see that 1333CL5 outperforms 1600CL7. Add to that the fact it's quite difficult to get DDR3 upto 900MHz without a superior IMC on your cpu. For benching purposes, I'd stick with the 1680CL6 you have running now since it seems (at least in my tests) even more performant than 1500CL5, both bandwidth and latency-wise. Could you run an Everest benchmark for me next time you run 01? I'm pretty sure you're below 38ns latency with that configuration, which blows away my 41.3ns due to the 1066MHz memory divider.

The black slots are the ones closest to the socket? If yes, I have the same observations on my board: those furthest away provide less overclockability.

Nice 01, by the way! Looking at the subtest details, I'm trailing but quite a lot in the CL and CH tests, in spite of the 200MHz cpu advantage. It's been a while since I tweaked ATI videocards, so it's possible my tweaking is off by miles, but it's also possible the high memory latency is doing it's work (or rather: doesn't) here. Judging from the LL and LH scores that are pretty much on par (LL is equal to mine :p: ) I'd say the memory bandwidth is alright on this DDR2 setup. What LOD are you using for Nature? At 1140MHz core you should be over 114-115FPS.

[chew*]

Massman You can toss plenty of volts at motherboards NB it can take it.....the SB on the other hand I have killed on a couple boards...I could be wrong but at that speed HT link should be hurting your performance not helping.....I have only found it benificial around 2200 up to 4.5g with 3k cpu NB........only time I saw gains higher was under ln2 and in crossfire....

[massman]

Currently running the SB at 1.35v, no issue with heat or instability whatsoever.

The problem is that I have no clue how the voltage for the IGP is regulated. Okay, if I set increase the Vnb in the bios, I get more more room for overclocking, but it's because the Vigp is raised, not because the Vnb is raised. From motherboard read-outs, the Vigp is apparently at 1.30-1.36v, so pretty much in line with what Tiborrr needs for 1.1G core. But before I start modding, I need to know how the voltage is regulated. Two options, afaik:

1) Vnb and Vigp are combined
- One voltage regulator which provides the voltage for Vnb and Vigp.
- That regulator can either have two voltage outputs or one, , in which case the voltage for the IGP is derived from the Vnb itself instead of having it's own output.

2) Vnb and Vigp are not combined
- Two voltage regulators, one for the Vnb and one for the Vigp.

In both case 1b (two outputs) and 2, it's possible to increase the Vigp appart from the Vnb quite easily: just finding the FB loop and decrease resistance. In scenario 1a (one output), it'll be a bit more difficult, because I'd need to find the resistor scheme from IC -> Vnb -> Vigp and modify without affecting the Vnb. Or I could just take the easy route and just modify Vnb as well :p:.

[chew*]

Yah SB shouldn't give you a problem untill you push 1.5v to it......Gigabyte made an oops and linked SB/HT together on a couple of boards.....DS4H and the 790FXT......to scale HT you need to use SB......1.5 SB even though its cool to touch apparently degrades the chip rather quickly.

The board I did manage to damage still works however HT no longer scales above 2200 and 1.5v SB/HT results in a no boot , forgot the actual post code but it means "I am not Happy" It now serves duty as a 2d disposable board....

[tiborrr]

Thanks Massman :up:

I will take measurement around the PCB's IC drivers on friday (to see what's really going on with VNB/VIGP) when i return home. Benching and/or modding will have to wait until then.

Sure buddy, I will post Everest bench next time.

You think even if VNB/VIP are combined that 1.36V on the GPU (1.66V = +.3V on VNB) according to your experiences should hurt NB? I haven't plugged any PCIe extension cards in the system so the splitter part of the NB chip shouldn't have any load (which would raise the amperage load).

Massman You can toss plenty of volts at motherboards NB it can take it.....the SB on the other hand I have killed on a couple boards...I could be wrong but at that speed HT link should be hurting your performance not helping.....I have only found it benificial around 2200 up to 4.5g with 3k cpu NB........only time I saw gains higher was under ln2 and in crossfire....

IGP is connected to the system via HyperTransport bus and not PCIexpress as many would expect. Hence there is no gain with PCIe overclocking. HT on the other hand has such an significant impact! It's quite logical - IGP's onboard memory runs on 32-bit memory bus, which means the GPU is severly bandwidth limited. Raising HT from e.g. 2000MHz to 2780MHz on the other hand (if you're running you IGP with UMA + Sideport) raises IGP's NB->CPU bandwidth from 8.000MB/s to 11.200MB/s. Internal 32-bit mem bus with memory running at standard 533MHz, only provides about 4260MB/s (4 bytes * 533MHz * 2). The more you'll OC your GPU, the more bottlenecked will the GPU become.

P.S.: Thanks for the info on HT/SB voltages, chew! Let's hope ASUS got it strictly splitted :D

This is the only pic of system i took, sry for the crappy cellphone quality, i tried to downsize it in order to make it shaper :):
http://www.shrani.si/f/1i/aW/3rB5HMac/img00070.jpg

[massman]

Thanks. I'll probably have a closer look at the board thursday or friday myself, but it'll take some time before I figured out the electrical scheme ... it's not my best game. At the moment I'm completely at the end of my clocks; without better cooling or more Vigp, I can't get more out of this system in terms of frequencies.

I'm not really worried about the northbridge getting hurt by massive volts, hence why I didn't care when I set the maximum voltage in the bios (1.6v). But, if it's not needed I won't increase the Vnb. If there's an opportunity to relax at least one component in my system, I will take it :p:.

In the meantime I've been playing with the LOD values in each subtest to try beat your score. To be honest, it wasn't easy at all! I was only able to beat it just once.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/29430.png

It seems that I have some work to do on those Drags. Instead of going up, I'm going down in comparison to my early runs. Also, I've seen the 31k, although it was only because of a bugged Nature run (200+ FPS).

I'm still trying to beat your other scores, but it's quite difficult. In 3DMark03, I've managed to do 9000 flat, which is 6 points short. Talk about a close game. In 3Dmark05 I'm now close to 7100, AM3 I haven't even beaten my previous best.

//EDIT: 9038 - http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=857385

[George_o/c]

Loving that small "battle" between Pieter and Niko, you guys are tweaking the hell out of it ! :yepp:

[tiborrr]

Amazing challenge Pieter! Simply mindblowing DDR2 speed & latencies! :eek:

Will revenge my 2001SE, '03, '05 scores tommorrow afternoon when i return home, i hope my ISP fixed internet connection until then (mother said lightning struck yesterday, damn loud bang, CATV is for surely toasted, VOIP telephony (via DSL) works but the internet (again via DSL) itself doesn't). :shrug:

@ George O/C: Thank you, buddy! :up: If you change your mind and arm yourself with an AMD 790GX platform, you are very welcomed to join our little contest. It's all fun and games! :up:

Best Regards,
Niko

[massman]

Guys, don't waste your time on chiller your cpu to get more MHz and thus more performance out of your system. In all benchmarks it's useless, apart from CH, where you can see quite a good boost. However, if you have to set priorities, go for the cold on the IGP and more volts to get them upto 1300MHz. You'll have a much nicer boost ;-).

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/29713.png

I still have to upload the 7095 score in 3Dmark05.

[tiborrr]

Okay, just to take back 2001SE & AM3, still with everything on air cooling:

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2001SE: 29.768 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=1&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/1i/xG/4TC8vwKh/297681170-5333810.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1i/xG/4TC8vwKh/297681170-5333810.png)

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif Aquamark3: 79.915 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=10&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/Y/1c/3cHjFQRT/am3799151170-5333810.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?Y/1c/3cHjFQRT/am3799151170-5333810.jpg)

Interesting how there is virtually no gain between 4GHz & 4.6GHz, there must be something else bottlenecking you :shrug: Will try my chip under my (unfinished) cascade tommorrow, we'll see what happens. I gained about 150pts between 3795MHz & 3810MHz throughout all the tests. What was your NB clock there? You have forgot to turn one of the CPU-Z screen to memory tab :)

Best Regards,
N.

P.S.: Will try to take on your '03 too!

Your turn, mr. M! :up:

[perkam]

C'mon people. Not one 5Ghz poster? :(

Perkam

[massman]

Interesting how there is virtually no gain between 4GHz & 4.6GHz, there must be something else bottlenecking you :shrug: Will try my chip under my (unfinished) cascade tommorrow, we'll see what happens. I gained about 150pts between 3795MHz & 3810MHz throughout all the tests. What was your NB clock there? You have forgot to turn one of the CPU-Z screen to memory tab :)

NB was at 12x240=2880MHz. NB multiplier 13 and higher doesn't boot on this board and since there's no way to increase the NB multiplier in windows using software, I have to stick with 2880MHz to have an high enough bandwidth/latency on the memory.

If I only had a 400MHz sideport divider ...

[tiborrr]

@Perkam: Waiting for my CO2 regulator to arrive later today, I have brazed myself an G1/4" to SAE 1/4" adapter (standard charging hose) which I can now use on a Nitrogen or CO2 regulator. This way I can charge a mixture of Ethylene and CO2 in my cascade. I'll sacrifice some cold on the evaporator (~5°C) in order to get higher load handling. I'm not going for pure etyhlene this time :cool:

http://www.shrani.si/f/d/qC/4GVdBw9o/img00071.jpg

@Massman:
Next time try mounting your SS to your GPU, it should yield some interesting FPS gain. Please don't give up! :up:

EDIT: Improved '03:
http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2003: 9.114 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=2&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/1L/Rh/2cvtSBUp/3dm0391141160-5333810.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1L/Rh/2cvtSBUp/3dm0391141160-5333810.png)

[chew*]

C'mon people. Not one 5Ghz poster? :(

Perkam

Heh perk, I'm just waiting for them to wrap up all there results before I go 5 + gig ;) Don't feel like wasting ln2 and DI on the DS4H board till they are done.....Probably use my 720 BE So I can unlock it mid bench for some 06.

[massman]

@Massman:
Next time try mounting your SS to your GPU, it should yield some interesting FPS gain. Please don't give up! :up:

Give ... up? I don't know that word :confused:

:p:

I've actually just spent a few hours on figuring out the voltage modification for this motherboard. I'm only at the beginning, though, since this is completely different from a normal VGA voltage modification. I'm not going to cross-post here, because I don't feel like uploading my pictures twice (Madshrimps forums doesn't allow hotlinking, apparently), so for my findings I'll have to refer you to the thread over at the [M]-forums. Hope you don't mind :-)

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f39/worklog-hd3300-overclocking-64000/index2.html#post238862

Very nice 3DMark03, by the way ... it's all about the GPU frequency :D

[tiborrr]

Thanks Pieter! :up:

PIN10 on AS324M is a HT input (+) signal for HTT on M4A78T-E, it directly corresponds selected voltage in BIOS/Overdrive.

There should be a HTT voltmod possible between GND and PIN10. Will try it in a moment. Still looking for Sideport voltage though. The three other amps on AS324M aren't affecting anything directly.

[massman]

are you sure that the AS324M is the voltage generator?

[GeorgeStorm]

A great comp so far,
I hope to join when I get me board, (still undecided which one to get, :P)
By the way, does anyone know if the J&W Extreme board is anygood, or the Sapphire? (both 790GX)
I have a 720, and will put it under SS probably to see how it can do, and will have a go at this aswell!

[tiborrr]

I just did the reverse SidePort Voltage mod with 100kOhm VR while trying to do the normal mod :shakes: Well, back to the soldering board...

[tiborrr]

Okay, didn't find the Sideport voltmod, but however hooked my new cascade on the Phenom. It's charged with CO2 at the moment, will repeat the whole thing this weekend when i'll charge it with ethylene. My chip is a horrible clocker though. I had a chance to quickly do 2001SE and '03, they seem to scale quite nicely with higher CPU speed, AM3 on the other hand didn't yield any gain. I ran out of time to do a '05 run :shrug:

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http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2001SE: 30.836 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=2&fil terUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=10 0)
http://www.shrani.si/t/3q/ui/1OxK8QEI/308361140-5334625.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3q/ui/1OxK8QEI/308361140-5334625.png)

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2003: 9.462 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=2&fil terUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=10 0)
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[George_o/c]

You're really tearing it apart Niko, stop giving a hard time to Pieter :p: :D

Nice one :up:, grats to all of you guys. That's the spirit ;)

[tiborrr]

Thank you George :). I am most sure my buddy Pieter is preparing a comeback, so I have to make sure I have enough 'clearance'.

Will post pictures of brazed home-made IGP DICE/LN2 evaporator when I return home on friday. It's made of an old NB waterblock base and a 22mm OD copper pipe :yepp:

Best Regards,
Niko :up:

[Turrican]

really nice results you got there bro:up:

[massman]

I had a chance to quickly do 2001SE and '03, they seem to scale quite nicely with higher CPU speed, AM3 on the other hand didn't yield any gain.

Must mean something's up with my rig. I'll try to figure out what exactly as soon as possible.

Btw, there's a new IGP coming: the HD4200. I've talked with some people at computex and it will be slower if you don't overclock it, but only because of the lower clocks. CPC, it's indeed faster than the HD3300 :).

I've also asked some engineers for tech data on the HD3300 ... let's hope there's more to find out with the help of more information!

And ... AWESOME results mate :up:

[tiborrr]

Thanks mr.Karl & mr.Pieter! :cool: Yeah, you're talking about RD880GX, right? Should be wonderful to bench it when it arrives :yepp:

As I said, i never hold backups. Here is 31k 2001SE with same clockspeeds as above, a bit of tweaking here and there :up:

http://hwbot.org/img/trophy-gold.gif 3DMark2001SE: 31.011 (http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=1381&applicationId=1&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100)
http://www.shrani.si/t/1D/n2/25GLtVqm/310111140-5333810.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1D/n2/25GLtVqm/310111140-5333810.png)

ORB: link! (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9500987)

[massman]

Impressive :eek:

No, not the 880GX, the 785G chipset.

[tiborrr]

Thanks Massman, i had to do some modifications (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3834067&postcount=17) to this cascade, hence i failed to charge it with ethylene in this short time frame i had left and assemble the IGP DICE pot. I am also getting a X2 550BE which should clock nicer than this X3 720BE I am using at the moment.

32K shouldn't be too far away... :up:

[massman]

I just tested my Mach2 unit on the NB and could boot at 1.3GHz quite easily.

Forgot where I put my HDD, though, so no screens or results just yet.

[tiborrr]

Cool, don't forget to post'em!

[massman]

No ... I don't have any. The part where I forget where my HDD is comes before the part where I boot my system :D

[TheKarmakazi]

No ... I don't have any. The part where I forget where my HDD is comes before the part where I boot my system :D

lol

Great work here guys, wish I could join in but dont have a 790GX.:shakes:

Wonderful tweaking from both of you, this is a fun thread I will be watching :D

[George_o/c]

It's indeed fun Jamie :yepp:

I mean Niko almost persuaded me to buy an 790GX. :D Turns out I'm going to follow the i7 920 D0 current trend as well :(

[massman]

Just installed Windows again to test if more cold really improves the clock frequencies and it does, albeit only a few dozens MHz. Voltage seems to be way more important, at least with my motherboard.

So, back to the voltmodding table :)

[tiborrr]

Good information there Peter, I will be returning to K10.5 / HD3300 next weekend, this weekend was more of a K7 fun week -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3847324&postcount=31

Best Regards,
N.

[youngpro]

did anyone work out vigp mods for these boards? this game looks fun

[massman]

Board's still on the voltmodding table, haven't touched it in a while :(

[tiborrr]

Mine is dead :down:

[Turrican]

sad to hear niko. :(

[massman]

I'll try to get my hands on a new board soon. Either DDR3 or 785G :)

[tiborrr]

Yeah, it got killed by condensation, again. FFS, these board don't have any over-voltage protection :(

@massman: Cool, let's get back in the game :up:

[youngpro]

playing with a few boards... need more voltage here

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/preeeezy/biostarigpat1200.jpg

[tiborrr]

Cool, pro! I'm getting my board RMA'ed on tuesday probably, so i'll return back to the game, 5GHz D.I.Y. cascade cooled style. :up:

Best regards to both of you,
Niko

[massman]

No LOD James? That FPS is aweful, you should be well over 120FPS

[NBF]

No LOD James? That FPS is aweful, you should be well over 120FPS

I think Win 7 is the one to blame.

[George_o/c]

I think Win 7 is the one to blame.

I suppose that pro will strike back anyway :yepp: :up:

[youngpro]

i think windows 7 and no LOD is the factors to blame here... i am just trying to work out which board is happy to do high clocks at this stage

[Rippthrough]

Btw, there's a new IGP coming: the HD4200. I've talked with some people at computex and it will be slower if you don't overclock it, but only because of the lower clocks. CPC, it's indeed faster than the HD3300 :).


I know this is an old thread now, but I've just got one of those boards -over 1000mhz @ 1.3v on the NB, so they're pretty good clockers too.

This is my 24/7 rig though, so I'm a bit worried about pushing the voltage any more on the chipset (especially with a passive heatsink!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/Rippthrough/Untitled-3.jpg

[KonradGT]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4673/37807269.jpg

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4116/signatureimgo.jpg

I don't know why my scores are so low :( Many LOD & drivers settings and still not good performance :shrug: :(

[tiborrr]

It's all about polishing the setup, bro! :up: These IGPs do tend to lean on system bandwidth quite a bit!

[KonradGT]

Alright, tommorow I will try again :D