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SF3D
05-10-2009, 01:43 PM
Hi all!

This weekend I had a short session with EVGA Classified. This motherboard came from Jimm's PC store, which is the best place to buy overclocking enthusiast stuff in Finland. Thank you guys!

Setup:

EVGA X58 Classified
Core i7 965 ES SSSSCP edition (Named by Dinos22):rofl:
Core i7 965 Retail 3836B149
Core i7 920 D0 3850A807
ASUS GTX 295 on full 3DMark Vantage runs
ATI Radeon 4890 during CPU testing
Mushkin 998696 Elpida (BBSE) memory
2x Thermaltake 1200W Toughpower
Dimastech benchtable
SF3D LN2 pot

Idea of the session was to see the limits of these CPU's on Classified motherboard. I was not very eager to believe the claims I have heard.
I have to admit, that I was wrong ;)

Pictures:

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00601/4176152.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176152.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00414/4176261.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176261.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00091/4176266.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176266.jpg)

Retail 965 on air:

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00846/4176268.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176268.jpg)

Retail 965 on LN2

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00565/4176270.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176270.jpg)

965 ES on LN2

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00254/4176273.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176273.jpg)

965 ES on LN2

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00778/4176276.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176276.jpg)

920 D0 (BCLK limited :( )

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00495/4176278.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4176278.jpg)


That was it this time. Next weekend I hope to do some Spi 32M with this motherboard. Today 5.5GHz CPU-Z "stability" was not hard with the last drops of LN2 :D 5.4GHz 32M is stable with waza etc. for sure this time :up:

Russian
05-10-2009, 01:46 PM
Nice pics and nice benches! Good luck!

Vivi
05-10-2009, 01:50 PM
WICKED! cant wait for your next scores!

When you get that asus on ln2 you will get some sick results!

Nice pic's, what is that thing in the 1st pic? looks like an ln2 shot, but it doesnt bubble like it should :).

Also man, wicked 2005 you submitted, im watching you ^_^. Soon number 2 will be solidly yours

hiwa
05-10-2009, 01:52 PM
:clap::clap: very nice man
time to some crazy 3D and shows us the real 32m :D

Gautam
05-10-2009, 02:03 PM
You believe it now? ;)

matose
05-10-2009, 02:30 PM
Why bclock limited at only 225MHz? This board goes 250Mhz+ without any problems and I didn't see any CPU with so low bclock wall :)!

SF3D
05-10-2009, 02:32 PM
You believe it now? ;)

Yes, I do believe it now :up:

I have to see it with my own eyes first. Skepticism is a good thing usually :D

I had usual problems with OS. My correct Vista was giving "creating vertex shader" errors and I had to use my AMD installation. My performance in Vantage was very low today.

Well, new sessions --> better luck :D

Jort
05-10-2009, 02:42 PM
Hey,

You reveiled the internals of the Ln2 Pot !!:D

edit: it's your own pot, i tought it was a Dragon's ;)

TheKarmakazi
05-10-2009, 05:07 PM
Nice work SF, your really cranking it on that wprime run :up: awesome :)

dinos22
05-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Core i7 965 ES SSSSCP edition (Named by Dinos22):rofl:

son of a :D

fubarswe
05-10-2009, 07:47 PM
Nice! sweet pics too! :-)

Benji Tshi
05-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Why bclock limited at only 225MHz? This board goes 250Mhz+ without any problems and I didn't see any CPU with so low bclock wall :)!

One of my friend had a 920 C0 wall around 198Mhz :shrug: No luck here..

Anyway, great results here, and a beautiful picture :p:

SirKronan
05-10-2009, 11:44 PM
Nice work, man. One of my best friends is drooling over this board. I told him that if he buys it he has to do extreme cooling on it or he's wasting it's potential (not to mention $150) and therefore is lame. He's planning on watercooling the CPU and chipset, but no LN2 or anything subzero. Have to give him heck for that .... :D

Seriously, though. EVGA is sparing no expense on this board, and from what I've read, they got it all right and this board just freaking has it all. I think EVGA making i7 boards has really "set them free" so to speak. After 4 nVidia boards that were pretty much piles of doggy doo doo (OK, only two of them were crappy - the others just didn't overclock hardly at all and were finicky as all heck) I am excited to be back on an Intel chipset. No finicky RAM problems (my RAM doesn't even match!) no weird FSB holes, no random reboots at stock settings, etc. etc. ...

I'm glad you're kicking butt with this. Great job!

Dragonx21
05-11-2009, 12:06 AM
very nice score!

Vqpi for bclock limit of 920?

eva2000
05-11-2009, 01:27 AM
Nice start there :)

clock for clock in 3dvantage D0 > C0 ?

xt0m
05-11-2009, 01:47 AM
Looking good, man :) having a go at my own soon

dpa
05-11-2009, 02:10 AM
good going ther SF3D/Pete!

nice clocks on the cpu AND gpu there.. 921Mhz core is high..

what temps are you running with the 965 cpus?

SF3D
05-11-2009, 02:48 AM
Thanks guys!

My performance in 3D was so weak for some unknown reason, that it is hard to say anything for sure at the moment.

Temperatures were around -110C with both CPU's. ES have a nasty cold boot bug at -22C.. booting at 4.9GH and then cool it down an go.

I got my 920 to go up to 225BCLK on air, so it was some wrong settings on that quick test. This CPU is not a BCLK gem, that is for sure.

dpa
05-11-2009, 03:32 AM
Thanks guys!

My performance in 3D was so weak for some unknown reason, that it is hard to say anything for sure at the moment.

Temperatures were around -110C with both CPU's. ES have a nasty cold boot bug at -22C.. booting at 4.9GH and then cool it down an go.

I got my 920 to go up to 225BCLK on air, so it was some wrong settings on that quick test. This CPU is not a BCLK gem, that is for sure.

tried Less, less on impedance and qpi signal?

SF3D
05-11-2009, 04:00 AM
Yes of course. Next session will be a lot better, cause now I know what these part can do.

Next I have to try my new RIIE in vantage (QSLI runs). 3D performance and efficiency still seems to be better on that board.

dpa
05-11-2009, 04:02 AM
Yes of course. Next session will be a lot better, cause now I know what these part can do.

Next I have to try my new RIIE in vantage (QSLI runs). 3D performance and efficiency still seems to be better on that board.

with dual 295 the classified seems not that good... havent tried it myself, but from other scores..

waiting for some killer scores from you Pete.. :D

before
05-11-2009, 10:34 AM
Nice effort Petri. :)



I got my 920 to go up to 225BCLK on air, so it was some wrong settings on that quick test. This CPU is not a BCLK gem, that is for sure.

Did you try it with another board mate?

Solarfall
05-11-2009, 11:01 AM
great scores there petri, bummer about your 920 but alteast that 965 is looking pretty good for now. im sure you will do some hwbot damage soon :D

SF3D
05-11-2009, 01:22 PM
Nice effort Petri. :)

Did you try it with another board mate?

Thank you Xavier! No, I haven't tested this on any other board yet.


great scores there petri, bummer about your 920 but alteast that 965 is looking pretty good for now. im sure you will do some hwbot damage soon :D

Thanks Mikko!

Well.. I think this D0 is not that bad after all :D I was wrong again :rolleyes:

SF3D
05-11-2009, 01:28 PM
Like I told in first post, I tested this D0 920 CPU very quickly. Now, I took some time to investigate the setup and found out, that this combo can make some pretty high BCLK numbers :eek:

Setup is aircooled in "hot" room. 26C at the moment :shrug:

Here is the Vantage on all 8 threads (BCLK 228):

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00409/4182545.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4182545.jpg)

Here is the max validation (BCLK 234):

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00907/4182538.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4182538.jpg)

Validation link:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=564535

Quite good, or what do you guys think?

Next I will check how high this CPU can go in MHz

Oliver
05-11-2009, 02:31 PM
great work man , glad to see your chips showing some more love it , the Classified is truly amazing :up:

are you on a 759 or 760 version ?

as for the BCLK , its good on air , was 1.53 IOH also used on the max valid cpu-z ?

keep pushing it

G H Z
05-11-2009, 04:26 PM
Looking good SF, hard to compete against the Classified right now :up:

Did you talk your wife into pouring LN2 for you yet? :D

sofos1990
05-12-2009, 03:55 AM
Great results! Well done! Seems that Classified is the best mobo for 965.....:D Congrats to Shamino!!!

SF3D
05-13-2009, 03:53 AM
Today I quickly tried how high this 920 can go on air in warm room.

Here is the result:

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00913/4190309.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4190309.jpg)

Efficiency is OK for those memory and uncore clocks :)

Shahryar_NEO
05-13-2009, 03:59 AM
Today I quickly tried how high this 920 can go on air in warm room.

Here is the result:

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00913/4190309.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4190309.jpg)

Efficiency is OK for those memory and uncore clocks :)

great run on AIR . :up:

what's your air cooling ? 54c for 4.7 ghz ! :eek:

SF3D
05-13-2009, 04:02 AM
Thermalright Ultra (copper edition). 1KG of pure copper + fast scythe kaze fan :)

dpa
05-13-2009, 04:07 AM
thats nice temps for those clocks.. who much better is the copper edition..?

SF3D
05-13-2009, 04:24 AM
thats nice temps for those clocks.. who much better is the copper edition..?

Well, first you have to lap it few hours. Then it is OK :D

It is powerful heatsink and it can handle load very well. I don't have any other Thermalright coolers, so no exact values here.

3oh6
05-13-2009, 05:05 AM
Thermalright Ultra (copper edition). 1KG of pure copper + fast scythe kaze fan :)
best combo there is...run it for my air setups as well :up:

that 920 is really tearing it up on air...is it going to see LN2 again soon now that you have the BCLK cranking?

pepinorang
05-13-2009, 08:34 AM
Great results SF3D, congratz :clap:
Classified really make i7 flying :D

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng

SF3D
05-13-2009, 01:20 PM
best combo there is...run it for my air setups as well :up:

that 920 is really tearing it up on air...is it going to see LN2 again soon now that you have the BCLK cranking?

I agree!

I think I have to try some 32M with 965 first. Maybe then it is time to have fun with this 920.


Great results SF3D, congratz :clap:
Classified really make i7 flying :D

Bye
p€p|n0r@ng

Thanks!

I really wait how is the non NF200 version of this board. This one is not the ultimate solution for 3D, which I like the most but in 2D this really rocks!

To Shamino!

Peter, you have done a masterpiece :up: Now, when I have used to this board it is starting to really fly. I have few suggestions, but too bad you don't need to listen them anymore :D

LardArse
05-13-2009, 05:58 PM
Thanks, get the right spot for the bclock, they always give more bclocks cold too.
What do you mean I dont need to listen?

massman
05-13-2009, 11:52 PM
He's probably just referring to your time at Foxconn where he was giving you feedback on the boards and you had to add/fix features :p

saaya
05-14-2009, 12:05 AM
mmmhhhh those ln2 shots are beautiful man... thats almost art! :D

about bclock, i have a feeling mem is holding you back, you still didnt get some propper ddr3 huh? :D hehehe
its really about time somebody sends you some good stuff... what ever happened to that handpicked adata 2000 cas7 kit though?
still, it seems you need elpida stuff to max out the bclock fully... try it, youd be surprised :D

EDIT: you should put your cpu clocks into perspective, people here dont know the max clocks you got with them on other boards before :D

hiwa
05-14-2009, 12:24 AM
Good efficiency for 4713 petri.waiting for ln2 2D runs

dpa
05-14-2009, 02:06 AM
mmmhhhh those ln2 shots are beautiful man... thats almost art! :D

about bclock, i have a feeling mem is holding you back, you still didnt get some propper ddr3 huh? :D hehehe
its really about time somebody sends you some good stuff... what ever happened to that handpicked adata 2000 cas7 kit though?
still, it seems you need elpida stuff to max out the bclock fully... try it, youd be surprised :D

EDIT: you should put your cpu clocks into perspective, people here dont know the max clocks you got with them on other boards before :D

mr. saaya!

is all dominator GT sets elpida chips? 1866, and 2000 cas 8..?

I think kingston sticks are blocking me...

SF3D
05-14-2009, 09:08 AM
He's probably just referring to your time at Foxconn where he was giving you feedback on the boards and you had to add/fix features :p

Exactly :D


mmmhhhh those ln2 shots are beautiful man... thats almost art! :D

about bclock, i have a feeling mem is holding you back, you still didnt get some propper ddr3 huh? :D hehehe
its really about time somebody sends you some good stuff... what ever happened to that handpicked adata 2000 cas7 kit though?
still, it seems you need elpida stuff to max out the bclock fully... try it, youd be surprised :D

EDIT: you should put your cpu clocks into perspective, people here dont know the max clocks you got with them on other boards before :D

It is not almost art. It is art.

Haha sascha.. now you are writing before reading :D
Memory is not holding me back, that is for sure. That memory kit is Elpida BBSE part and can do a lot more than in those screens. I still need to get the BASE elpida kit, but I don't want to pay 400€.

That A-data kit you remember is D9GTR and it needs a lot of voltage and it is optimised for X48.

Only scores are relevant. Not the scaling on other boards ;)


Good efficiency for 4713 petri.waiting for ln2 2D runs

Thanks! For those memory and uncore clocks, it is satisfying score :up:

saaya
05-14-2009, 10:38 AM
mr. saaya!

is all dominator GT sets elpida chips? 1866, and 2000 cas 8..?

I think kingston sticks are blocking me...yp dpa :D
hows it going? :D
check the rev number, corsair uses the rev numbers to diferentiate the chips they use... sometimes diferent rev numbers are the same chip, but usually each chip has its own rev number :)

just pm bachus, im sure he can help you



Only scores are relevant. Not the scaling on other boards ;)
says you... :D

but yeah i guess your right, it changed and with i7 perf is what matters and not clocks... used to be that you can tweak registers in windows, so you could tweak every board the same if you knew how... but with i7 intel locks all registers after initialization so its all up to bios now... i really hope intel stops locking everything with i5 and future 1366... :/

sorry i didnt read your entire post, just saw your bclock was limited and your mem clocks were only 900 with 898, which is way relaxed, so i figured mem was holding you back :D

SF3D
05-14-2009, 11:58 AM
I tried to push this CPU even further on aircooling, but it is too "hot" in here.

Room is like 25c and it is too much.

7min 33.859s
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00007/4199634.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4199634.jpg)

Hopefully I will have some sick 32M score to show tomorrow :up:
I will run my 965 ES and I will aim to 6.37 ;)

SF3D
05-15-2009, 01:28 PM
OK..

Same setup, new super pi scores.

1M:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00070/4205289.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4205289.jpg)

4M:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00756/4205297.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4205297.jpg)

8M:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00693/4205299.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4205299.jpg)

16M:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00979/4205300.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4205300.jpg)

32M:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00264/4205302.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4205302.jpg)

I think, that now I hit the limit of this CPU :up:

Who would like to sponsor me a good memory kit.. no one :rolleyes:

What would have that score be with 7-8-7-20 @ 1150MHz?

hiwa
05-15-2009, 01:42 PM
:D finaly see something special
with a good mem u can get very fastest time
Congrats petri :up:

clem9
05-15-2009, 01:45 PM
congratz on wr :D
nearly 5,5 ghz 32 m stable is awesome...

before
05-15-2009, 01:47 PM
Excellent :)

DeDaL
05-15-2009, 01:54 PM
damn, you are greate my friend :eek:

my big big congrats :clap:

boblemagnifique
05-15-2009, 02:23 PM
great overclocking SF3D , your 965XE ES is magic :D

crustytheclown
05-15-2009, 03:02 PM
that's a greart chip man.Very nice job and congrats on that 32m run!!!

SF3D
05-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Thanks guys!

Next I will do these runs again with very good memory. WR should not be too far away.

sofos1990
05-15-2009, 11:23 PM
Great stuff you got there SF3D!!! Amazing cpu! Congrats for the results!!!:D

Pt1t
05-15-2009, 11:54 PM
Very nice CPU petri. How much it did on other Board ?

I just unpacked that board :D

SF3D
05-16-2009, 03:00 AM
Thanks!

This CPU did 5.4GHz 32M on Gigabyte UD5. There is around 100MHz gain in frequency with this board.

dinos22
05-16-2009, 07:55 PM
solid benching man :up:
stick that retail chip in there and see how far it'll go :D...that SSSSSCP one is too easy to clock heheh (j/k)

Brian y.
05-16-2009, 08:23 PM
Thanks guys!

Next I will do these runs again with very good memory. WR should not be too far away.

Great work there! :clap:

Can't wait to see your 32M:)

Let the back up wars begin:D

3oh6
05-16-2009, 08:32 PM
it's about time someone started the backup wars. very nicely done here, that is one crazy chip and great benching to get it there. should get silly with proper memory :up:

SF3D
05-17-2009, 01:33 AM
Thanks! Well, next target is sub 6min 30s :D I think there is a little chance, that this CPU will go even more further, when I have time to push voltage more :up:

Retail was better in Vantage, so it should do at least 5.4GHz 32M runs.

But like I said before.. memory hunting is about to start.

And the last update is 3DMark05

5.3GHz + 3x 4890

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00910/4210735.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4210735.jpg)

Performance is so bad :mad: I hate it.. I was so confused/amazed during the tests, that I checked multiple times, that CF is on etc. :D CF was on but NF200 must be killing the performance this way.

If it is something else, please tell me! Peter?

dpa
05-19-2009, 04:21 PM
should be possible to disabled that little bugger.. (nf200)... but its not :(

George_o/c
05-19-2009, 10:11 PM
should be possible to disabled that little bugger.. (nf200)... but its not :(

But there is a non-nf200 Classified version out there, isn't it ? Why not trying that one, or it's not that good ? :shrug:

hipro5
05-19-2009, 10:59 PM
It's you CPU my friend....You MUST have a D0 stepping to get the 2k5... ;)

dinos22
05-19-2009, 11:35 PM
It's you CPU my friend....You MUST have a D0 stepping to get the 2k5... ;)

and 5.5GHz NB :D