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keithlm
05-07-2009, 04:13 PM
Actually I just noticed that the newest F2 Bios for the Gigabyte MA790GP-UD4H actually does have 2 visual changes:
1. ACC is now on the normal menu. (No need to use the CTRL-F1)
2. They have added a new BIOS setting called:
EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration.
It can be set to the following:
Normal = Used AMD normal EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration
Hybrid = Used AMD particular EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration
So... what is "AMD particular" as opposed to normal? Anyone have any ideas??
gOtVoltage
05-07-2009, 06:05 PM
Actually I just noticed that the newest F2 Bios for the Gigabyte MA790GP-UD4H actually does have 2 visual changes:
1. ACC is now on the normal menu. (No need to use the CTRL-F1)
2. They have added a new BIOS setting called:
EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration.
It can be set to the following:
Normal = Used AMD normal EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration
Hybrid = Used AMD particular EC Firmware for Advanced Clock Calibration
So... what is "AMD particular" as opposed to normal? Anyone have any ideas??
Heres My IDEA:doh::help:
The Firm update ,,Hybrid Unlocks 720's still for enthusiast ?and the Normal Option dosnt allow it .
New Bios both options . Hybrid would be the Unlocking Mode.
720's have caused a new Firmware update by (AMD)to Block ACC from Enabling x4core. AMD wants new Bioses to be updated , but dosnt mind that you have the option for Enthusiast. If your Overclocking and Unlocking your Doing (Hybrid)youll use it . By default it will be in normal Mode>
Some vendors are giving us Both Options now Via Bios update and like yours a Second option in the Firmware of ACC.
Im Not 100% shure if this is the Update For 720 ACC goodness .
If you have a 720 on hand toggle the Option. In (Hybrid) you should be able to unlock it . (Normal) it will stay locked . May be other way around .
.This is a wild guess .
AMD did give out New Firmware code for this and vendors could use ONLY the new update(blocking the X4core surprize),,
Maybe :shrug: Gigabyte is going for us Enthusiast as it looks like both Options in the New Bios(just in case you like to tweak things ).
Need Tweaker to test theory,,
Anyone have a720 that does unlock with the UD4? If so what happens when you flash to the Above Bios? Can you unlock it still?
msimax
05-07-2009, 06:16 PM
it does unlock them;)
shadow_419
05-07-2009, 06:22 PM
ahem, I hope msi follows suit.
gOtVoltage
05-07-2009, 06:27 PM
Tempted to get a UD4H or UD5 for a spare Mobo ..
It would be good for my720.
The old M3A79 does not Unlock unless I use 0030Mod Bios . The 703/803 all now have been updated from ASUS it looks.
So when i downloaded them they didnt work. As soon as i reloaded MODbios 0030 the ASUS Unlocked it.
It will be nice to use a Mobo that is 100% Bios updated(stabilty) and still unlocks a 720 with out aMODDED BIOS:yepp:.
Entropicity
05-08-2009, 03:36 AM
it does unlock them;)
Are you saying there is hope for 4th core unlocking in official bios in future?
chew*
05-08-2009, 04:12 AM
There is hope on the gigabyte side of things ;)
I've requested it in every beta i've worked on to date :) seems they got the hint.
If you guys blow up your boards or cpu's I suggest not rma'ing them.........all good things come to an end..suck it up and BUY a new one........
Don't ruin a good thing for others.
Entropicity
05-08-2009, 04:54 AM
Noooooooooooooooo MSI you got to step up too!!!
Lightman
05-08-2009, 06:49 AM
There is hope on the gigabyte side of things ;)
I've requested it in every beta i've worked on to date :) seems they got the hint.
If you guys blow up your boards or cpu's I suggest not rma'ing them.........all good things come to an end..suck it up and BUY a new one........
Don't ruin a good thing for others.
Good job you were persistent chew* :clap:
I would get AM3 already but buying home is more important at the moment, so I need to control my spendings :(
Hint to AMD - releasing new Phenom revision would give me enough arguments to warrant new CPU and motherboard ;)
Tomasis
05-08-2009, 10:17 AM
If you guys blow up your boards or cpu's I suggest not rma'ing them..
Otherwise Gigabyte will solder unknown brand things on those poor mobos like Asus. :ROTF: Just joking.
Ec firmware are for all Gigabyte mobos?
chew*
05-08-2009, 12:27 PM
I believe it is being added sooner or later...........There are other good things on the horizon FXT-UD5P is making progress.
shaolin95
05-08-2009, 01:04 PM
Can't wait for a new ud5p bios thats let me keeps the 4th core! :-)
Finally some hope. :)
charged3800z24
05-10-2009, 05:56 PM
I believe it is being added sooner or later...........There are other good things on the horizon FXT-UD5P is making progress.
good things is allways acceptible, I have grown attached to the FXT-UD5P:up:
villa1n
05-27-2009, 09:50 PM
Heres My IDEA:doh::help:
The Firm update ,,Hybrid Unlocks 720's still for enthusiast ?and the Normal Option dosnt allow it .
New Bios both options . Hybrid would be the Unlocking Mode.
720's have caused a new Firmware update by (AMD)to Block ACC from Enabling x4core. AMD wants new Bioses to be updated , but dosnt mind that you have the option for Enthusiast. If your Overclocking and Unlocking your Doing (Hybrid)youll use it . By default it will be in normal Mode>
Some vendors are giving us Both Options now Via Bios update and like yours a Second option in the Firmware of ACC.
Im Not 100% shure if this is the Update For 720 ACC goodness .
If you have a 720 on hand toggle the Option. In (Hybrid) you should be able to unlock it . (Normal) it will stay locked . May be other way around .
.This is a wild guess .
AMD did give out New Firmware code for this and vendors could use ONLY the new update(blocking the X4core surprize),,
Maybe :shrug: Gigabyte is going for us Enthusiast as it looks like both Options in the New Bios(just in case you like to tweak things ).
Need Tweaker to test theory,,
Anyone have a720 that does unlock with the UD4? If so what happens when you flash to the Above Bios? Can you unlock it still?
I m trying the new f5a bios with the EC firmware setting for acc on a gigabyte ud4-p but cpuz still showing 3 threads/cores? :/
*edit* all seems to be well now, it just took an extra reboot after enabling for some reason to show the 4th core :D nice.
Daveburt714
05-27-2009, 10:04 PM
I m trying the new f5a bios with the EC firmware setting for acc on a gigabyte ud4-p but cpuz still showing 3 threads/cores? :/
Thanks for the info man.... I was going to pickup UD4P this weekend for my 720BE, but if people can't get it to unlock the 4th core I'll stick with the Biostar.
Really wanted to play with DDR3 though. :(
If anyone has any luck with a UD4P please let us know how you did it...
***EDIT***
Cross post so I'll edit too... :)
If you don't mind, let me know how stability is after you play with / stress it a little villa1n.
Thanks.... Dave
gOtVoltage
05-27-2009, 10:17 PM
*edit* all seems to be well now, it just took an extra reboot after enabling for some reason to show the 4th core :D nice.
Thanks for the info man.... I was going to pickup UD4P this weekend for my 720BE, but if people can't get it to unlock the 4th core I'll stick with the Biostar.
***EDIT***
Cross post so I'll edit too... :)
If you don't mind, let me know how stability is after you play with / stress it a little villa1n.
Thanks.... Dave
Dave ,, the UD4 and 5 100% unlock em. Im actually debating between the two ATm. I need a new ACC capable mobo with just a single slot Vid solution . Most likely a UD4(dont need any more Bells Whistle stuff than this) is looking to replace my TA770 for the 720:D
villa1n
05-27-2009, 11:20 PM
Thanks for the info man.... I was going to pickup UD4P this weekend for my 720BE, but if people can't get it to unlock the 4th core I'll stick with the Biostar.
Really wanted to play with DDR3 though. :(
If anyone has any luck with a UD4P please let us know how you did it...
***EDIT***
Cross post so I'll edit too... :)
If you don't mind, let me know how stability is after you play with / stress it a little villa1n.
Thanks.... Dave
I have 4 cores 3.5 ghz right now, ran occt for an hour no probs, 1.475 volts on cpu nb vid and cpu ... keep in mind that i m running 8 gb of mushkin em ram, so i could probably get much higher if i plucked out 2 dimms, but for now i d rather have no page file hehe, but seems stable so far, i might try linpack and prime 95 tommorow just to be sure.
villa1n
05-28-2009, 05:29 PM
Ran LinPack OCCT and no problems, so I m gonna take it as stable, i could prime it, but I would rather get back to my COD4 and movies ^^. Very nice, although on reboot i had a couple random BSOD for Page Fault in non paged area, without stressing it, i bumped the cpu nb vid to 1.4, seems to have stopped that, but didnt bsod while under stress, just randomly.
Bgriffs
05-28-2009, 07:38 PM
Ran LinPack OCCT and no problems, so I m gonna take it as stable, i could prime it, but I would rather get back to my COD4 and movies ^^. Very nice, although on reboot i had a couple random BSOD for Page Fault in non paged area, without stressing it, i bumped the cpu nb vid to 1.4, seems to have stopped that, but didnt bsod while under stress, just randomly.
I had a few of those happen and after changing my ram timings and voltages they went away, perhaps that is the source of those issues.
Daveburt714
05-28-2009, 08:37 PM
villa1n, gOtVoltage: Thanks for the info guys! :up:
I've got some El'Cheapo DDR3 coming from NewEgg tommorow, so I'll probably run up to MicroCenter and pick up a UD4P on Saturday...
I have 4 cores 3.5 ghz right now, ran occt for an hour no probs, 1.475 volts on cpu nb vid and cpu ... keep in mind that i m running 8 gb of mushkin em ram
I seriously doubt you need 1.475 on the IMC :shocked:
Maybe you need it for 8gb of ram, but I'd be willing to bet you could get by with much less.... Just a thought. :p:
gOtVoltage
05-28-2009, 09:06 PM
villa1n, gOtVoltage: Thanks for the info guys! :up:
I've got some El'Cheapo DDR3 coming from NewEgg tommorow, so I'll probably run up to MicroCenter and pick up a UD4P on Saturday...
I seriously doubt you need 1.475 on the IMC :shocked:
Maybe you need it for 8gb of ram, but I'd be willing to bet you could get by with much less.... Just a thought. :p:
anytime,,
The price is pretty good for Microcenter . I get 5% off my next Mobo or highest priced product:D
Just trying to save pennies for a new Raven and some other Stuff like DDR3. So i can move all Watercooling and my Hardware outa my Old Tower.
NOTE: He could Try giving the CHIPSET/NB a bump in volts and then Lower CPU/NB volts a hair to 1.45 or so. Can work sometimes .
Daveburt714
05-28-2009, 09:42 PM
Does anyone know the best bios for the 790XT-UD4P (unlocking required), is the F4G release the best available?
I know where to get early release/beta's for MSI and Asus, but no clue as far as GBT is concerned...
Bladesinger7x
05-29-2009, 12:32 AM
I just loaded the F4G bios on the 790XT-UD4P and the hybrid ACC option is there,
but AUTO and PER CORE settings just shutdown the system. It seems that I got a
disabled 'disabled' core (cpu is 0904EPMW 0032 batch).
But with this bios I got weird random reboots of the system - with just 3 cores
running and no overclock ...just like villa1n totally random and not under any stress
(changing the setting for sidebar gadget).
Also, is it normal that the system just shuts down after saving the ACC settings ...no
reboot just shutdown and then I need to use the CCMOS jumper to start the system
again. Is this the board's fault or the cpu fault?
keithlm
05-29-2009, 09:01 AM
Also, is it normal that the system just shuts down after saving the ACC settings ...no
reboot just shutdown and then I need to use the CCMOS jumper to start the system
again. Is this the board's fault or the cpu fault?
When a few of the bios settings are changed you must do a cold boot or the system will hang and you then must totally clear CMOS to get it back.
They put in an automatic cold boot for when you change some of the bios settings. It only happens with a few of them and not all the time.
It scared the heck out of me the first time it did it... then I just found it annoying. Now I don't notice anymore.
Bladesinger7x
05-29-2009, 09:15 AM
But after the system hangs if I try to start the computer it does not boot.
Should I remove the power/turn PSU of and then on and try booting?
Its weird because so far every time I enabled ACC the sistem just hung
while others report booting with just 3cores or successfully with 4 cores
(nobody reported a need for a cold boot).
What should be the most safe procedure to try this:
load fail-free settings in bios
clear cmos
again load fail-free settings and reboot
enable hybrid acc and reboot
set acc to auto or per core - at this point the system usually hangs after saving the settings
what then - turn psu of for a few seconds and then on and
see if the system boots?
gOtVoltage
05-29-2009, 05:19 PM
But after the system hangs if I try to start the computer it does not boot.
Should I remove the power/turn PSU of and then on and try booting?
Its weird because so far every time I enabled ACC the sistem just hung
while others report booting with just 3cores or successfully with 4 cores
(nobody reported a need for a cold boot).
What should be the most safe procedure to try this:
load fail-free settings in bios
clear cmos
again load fail-free settings and reboot
enable hybrid acc and reboot
set acc to auto or per core - at this point the system usually hangs after saving the settings
what then - turn psu of for a few seconds and then on and
see if the system boots?
Try all cores +2 or +4.. ive found this to work on some mobos besides my M3A 79-t . My 720 runs in my Friends Giga no prob with the same settings my M3A wont run with while 4cores is enable. Sometimes you may need to reflash the Bios a second time if stuff is really wacky.
Ever since i flashed BIOSES about 120+ times on my Biostar TA770 .
Ive gotton used to the whole reset ,,power off ,,PSU power switch ,, juggling thing That Phenom Bioses do.
I tell ya B2 and the first pH! mobos were a great learning curve ,that is if ya have patience.
I can now reset in about 30seconds on any mobo when a Bios is buggy or chippy dont like what i do to it:rofl:
Daveburt714
05-30-2009, 09:52 PM
But after the system hangs if I try to start the computer it does not boot.
Should I remove the power/turn PSU of and then on and try booting?
Its weird because so far every time I enabled ACC the sistem just hung
while others report booting with just 3cores or successfully with 4 cores
(nobody reported a need for a cold boot).
What should be the most safe procedure to try this:
load fail-free settings in bios
clear cmos
again load fail-free settings and reboot
enable hybrid acc and reboot
set acc to auto or per core - at this point the system usually hangs after saving the settings
what then - turn psu of for a few seconds and then on and
see if the system boots?
I just got the board today and I thought maybe it was just you having problems... I've only been playing with it for a few hours, but if it makes you feel any better I've had all kinds of trouble unlocking the 4th core on a known good 720be....
You really think sacraficing a goat might help? (Yes, I caught your message before the edit :rofl:)
It does look like GBT is trying to figure it out, which is a good thing, and the F4G bios seems to be getting close to running the 720 as an X4.....
I have alot of testing to do yet, but I thought I'd let you know your not crazy.
I'm having all kinds of trouble too... :(
For anyone thats been using this board for awhile (MA790XT-UD4P):
What is your opinion on the best Bios available?
F4A seems to be the best so far, but it won't even try to unlock the 4th core on the 720. :shakes:
villa1n
05-30-2009, 10:33 PM
villa1n, gOtVoltage: Thanks for the info guys! :up:
I've got some El'Cheapo DDR3 coming from NewEgg tommorow, so I'll probably run up to MicroCenter and pick up a UD4P on Saturday...
I seriously doubt you need 1.475 on the IMC :shocked:
Maybe you need it for 8gb of ram, but I'd be willing to bet you could get by with much less.... Just a thought. :p:
LoL my mistake, I m thinking default voltage for imc is 1.3, like cpu, i m adding .175 to each, default is 1.2 so i m at 1.375 imc volts, and i bumped it up to 1.4 :) stable now :D
Bladesinger7x
05-30-2009, 11:47 PM
I just got the board today and I thought maybe it was just you having problems... I've only been playing with it for a few hours, but if it makes you feel any better I've had all kinds of trouble unlocking the 4th core on a known good 720be....
You really think sacraficing a goat might help? (Yes, I caught your message before the edit :rofl:)
It does look like GBT is trying to figure it out, which is a good thing, and the F4G bios seems to be getting close to running the 720 as an X4.....
I have alot of testing to do yet, but I thought I'd let you know your not crazy.
I'm having all kinds of trouble too... :(
For anyone thats been using this board for awhile (MA790XT-UD4P):
What is your opinion on the best Bios available?
F4A seems to be the best so far, but it won't even try to unlock the 4th core on the 720. :shakes:
(about the goat) I sure hope so ...it seems that goats are easier to get then an unlocked 4th core on the X3 720 + UD4P
as for the bios, since I flashed to F4G I'm getting really weird BSODs ...at idle or stressed ...totally random
...1/2h OCCT test passed ok ...BSOD says IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL
I'm not sure what is causing this since one day before flashing to F4G I loaded the Vista image (Vista SP2 screwed
my installation) and could be problem with the image or maybe with the drivers ...anyhow, I had this board for
about 2 weeks without any BSODs or reboots so something is screwed up now:shrug:
gOtVoltage
05-31-2009, 02:06 AM
(about the goat) I sure hope so ...it seems that goats are easier to get then an unlocked 4th core on the X3 720 + UD4P
as for the bios, since I flashed to F4G I'm getting really weird BSODs ...at idle or stressed ...totally random
...1/2h OCCT test passed ok ...BSOD says IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL
I'm not sure what is causing this since one day before flashing to F4G I loaded the Vista image (Vista SP2 screwed
my installation) and could be problem with the image or maybe with the drivers ...anyhow, I had this board for
about 2 weeks without any BSODs or reboots so something is screwed up now:shrug:
I just Loaded up a New UD4P with My 720.
Im now going to do some Flashing . Making shure my Temps are Good.
15c @ Idle Stock clocks and Volts. This Award Bios is Night And Day over the M3A79-Tdeluxe. .
Bladesinger7x
05-31-2009, 10:53 AM
Daveburt714, what sort of troubles are you talking about?
So far I just had to fiddle with the CCMOS juper - did you get any jumper with the board?
and random BSODs at idle and loads ...so far these reboots were always when the Reaper
ram is set to 1333 6-6-6-20@1.75v; with ram on auto (1066 7-7-7-16@1.6v) no BSODs so
far ...with 1 hour memory test no errors were reported and no reboots so theses BSODs are
possible just a f*up Vista installation (IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL and SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION
BSOD reports)
gOtVoltage
05-31-2009, 01:13 PM
Daveburt714, what sort of troubles are you talking about?
So far I just had to fiddle with the CCMOS juper - did you get any jumper with the board?
and random BSODs at idle and loads ...so far these reboots were always when the Reaper
ram is set to 1333 6-6-6-20@1.75v; with ram on auto (1066 7-7-7-16@1.6v) no BSODs so
far ...with 1 hour memory test no errors were reported and no reboots so theses BSODs are
possible just a f*up Vista installation (IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL and SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION
BSOD reports)
Guys,, make shure your NBvid is able to Raise the NB volts ..
I needed to be able to be @1.45Nbvid with this CPU for 3.9ghz or higher ,,but it seems on my UD4P the NBvid wont adjust up or down .
CPU Vcore works fine up to 1.79volts:D Im still playing around with the NBvid @ATM. Thats all i need to push this thing :yepp:
Low NBvid will cause ramdom BSOD's (Memory)if the NBvid is set to low when running above 3600mhz...With x3cores and x4cores.
Bladesinger7x
05-31-2009, 03:12 PM
Well, I'm running at stock speed for now, however, I do suspect that the F4G might undervolt the memory
or something similar. The system was fine at 1333 6-6-6-20@1.75v F3, few hours after F4G bios was loaded
the first BSOD happened...al this at stock speeds.
Daveburt714
05-31-2009, 09:12 PM
Daveburt714, what sort of troubles are you talking about?
So far I just had to fiddle with the CCMOS juper - did you get any jumper with the board?
No I didn't get a jumper, the board doesn't need one, just take a little screwdriver and short the 2 pins to clear CMOS. I actually like it better than fumbling with a jumper. ;)
I was having all kinds of problems. Running as an X4 was out of the question and even running as X3 I got alot of the same errors you were talking about, random reboots, failure when idle etc... etc...
After alot of trial and error I think I figured out the main source of the problem...
The NBvid adjustment in bios DOES NOT WORK, and 1.2v just isn't enough to run as X4 or any reasonable OC on the IMC.
Going into AOD and raising the NBvid to 1.25 after booting has got it running much more stable in X4 mode, but I still haven't ran any serious stress test yet (10 minutes Prime 95 passed though).
The worst thing about that not working is the fact than I can't get anything more than 2200 on the IMC. If I go to 2400 it won't even make it into Windows so I can raise the NBvid.... It just locks up and I have to reset CMOS..... :shakes:
You would think with all the revisions to bios this would have been fixed by now.
If you read this chew* would you please ask them to fix this?
**EDIT** Ooops, looks like you figured it out before me GV... :)
villa1n
05-31-2009, 09:37 PM
No I didn't get a jumper, the board doesn't need one, just take a little screwdriver and short the 2 pins to clear CMOS. I actually like it better than fumbling with a jumper. ;)
I was having all kinds of problems. Running as an X4 was out of the question and even running as X3 I got alot of the same errors you were talking about, random reboots, failure when idle etc... etc...
After alot of trial and error I think I figured out the main source of the problem...
The NBvid adjustment in bios DOES NOT WORK, and 1.2v just isn't enough to run as X4 or any reasonable OC on the IMC.
Going into AOD and raising the NBvid to 1.25 after booting has got it running much more stable in X4 mode, but I still haven't ran any serious stress test yet (10 minutes Prime 95 passed though).
The worst thing about that not working is the fact than I can't get anything more than 2200 on the IMC. If I go to 2400 it won't even make it into Windows so I can raise the NBvid.... It just locks up and I have to reset CMOS..... :shakes:
You would think with all the revisions to bios this would have been fixed by now.
If you read this chew* would you please ask them to fix this?
**EDIT** Ooops, looks like you figured it out before me GV... :)
There are two NB voltage options in the bios for this board... are you talking about NBvolt or CPUNBvolts... as i was having the same probs as you, with anything X4 over 3.5, and any nb speed over 2200 as well. And i too cant get anything to register aside the bios that the nbvid has changed...but i m scared to change it in AOD incase it is at the volts i ve set it, and having AOD add more volts to that because its not registering the change.
Daveburt714
05-31-2009, 09:52 PM
villa1n: According to AMD Power Monitor and Everest the bios is not changing the CPUNBvid, the other NBvoltage is the chipset.
Heres a ss of AMDPM after I changed it to 1.30v with AOD. Reguardless of what I set it to in bios it was always 1.20v.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Daveburt/AMDPM13v.jpg
Changing that in AOD really settled things down and it's running much more stable.:up:
villa1n
05-31-2009, 10:36 PM
villa1n: According to AMD Power Monitor and Everest the bios is not changing the CPUNBvid, the other NBvoltage is the chipset.
Heres a ss of AMDPM after I changed it to 1.30v with AOD. Reguardless of what I set it to in bios it was always 1.20v.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Daveburt/AMDPM13v.jpg
Changing that in AOD really settled things down and it's running much more stable.:up:
Wow, i will definately try that, what has me worried, is AOD is not reading my CPU voltage correctly either, it shows up as 1.3, but cpuid does pick up the correct voltage. Is there a way to permanently change those volts via AOD, or is always going to have to be set on reboot?
*seems AMDPM gives me a C++ runtime error on Windows 7 :( even in xp compatibility mode. Did everest reflect the change as well? heh, even worse is that i m trying to apply a 1.3 voltage, and AOD warns me , i press ok, and then just bumps it back down to 1.2, and everest seems to show no change, but i cant see in AMD PM as it wont run :(
gOtVoltage
06-01-2009, 12:29 AM
The NBvid volt setting is the only hold back i see ATM. It seems locked to 1.2vid.
Tried my 9950 same thing. This bios could use a CPUvid and a working NBvid with adjustability like the UD5:D
Hahaa im temped to flash a UD5 Bios to this.
Ive done St..pid stuff with the K9neoF(flash PlatinumBios to run higher Volts) to run 6000+'s @ 3.5 and some other Mobos ive Flashed the unthinkable.
I just dont feel like killing this one yet Hahaa
. As for the New ACC Firmware HYBRID option ,, that works just fine.
Bladesinger7x
06-01-2009, 04:27 AM
It seems that both F4G and F4A have problem with NBvid (AM3 - 790XT-UD4P board).
Since flashing to F4G I had BSODs when memory is set to 1333 6-6-6-20/1.75v
(all other settings at stock) and now with F4A the same thing happened. When
I ran F3B bios there were no BSODs....when I get back home I will probably flash
back to F3B to see if this will fix reboots.
As I mentioned all other settings except for ram are at stock, yet I get random
BSODs most of the time at idle ...when opening windows explorer or some similar
action?? ...could it be that trying to unlock the 4th core has damaged the cpu
or the IMC?
So far I have given up on the 4th core ...now I just want to have a stable system:mad:
Bladesinger7x
06-01-2009, 04:50 AM
Another question; which application can be used to raise the NBvid?
AMD Overdrive would not install on my Vista x64 (it did install on the backup XP though)
when the installer comes to the CustomLogo.exe part of the installation it just hangs.
Maybe a fresh install will solve this but for now I would prefer to iron out all the *bugs*
with the current installation.
Daveburt714
06-01-2009, 09:35 AM
Bladesinger7x: I seriously doubt you damaged the chip, it probably just needs a little bump on the IMC. Hopefully GBT will fix the setting on the next bios release.
What I did was use the little utility in the first message of this thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220185
Set perfromance mode NBvid to 1.30v's and powersaving mode to 1.25v.
It will apply the voltage as soon as Windows boots, just make sure you turn off CnQ and C1E in bios, as this utility will take care of it for you.
DL the "i386" version for 32 bit OS, or "AMD64" version for 64 bit.
It's a nice little utility and there is alot more info in the thread if you need it.
villa1n
06-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Bladesinger7x: I seriously doubt you damaged the chip, it probably just needs a little bump on the IMC. Hopefully GBT will fix the setting on the next bios release.
What I did was use the little utility in the first message of this thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220185
Set perfromance mode NBvid to 1.30v's and powersaving mode to 1.25v.
It will apply the voltage as soon as Windows boots, just make sure you turn off CnQ and C1E in bios, as this utility will take care of it for you.
DL the "i386" version for 32 bit OS, or "AMD64" version for 64 bit.
It's a nice little utility and there is alot more info in the thread if you need it.
you think that utility will change the voltage on the gbt boards?
Bladesinger7x
06-01-2009, 11:43 PM
as far as I have tested it it does ...it works great
the only annoying thing not working is the cpu utilization gadget
the gadget works fine just the cpu speed is stuck at 2.8GHz, with
BIOS C'n'Q the speed changes accordingly
villa1n
06-02-2009, 01:05 AM
as far as I have tested it it does ...it works great
the only annoying thing not working is the cpu utilization gadget
the gadget works fine just the cpu speed is stuck at 2.8GHz, with
BIOS C'n'Q the speed changes accordingly
awesome. i will try this out probably thursday when i have time to muck about, and report back, hope it works for me, 1.3 could hopefully give me another 200mhz
Bladesinger7x
06-02-2009, 03:33 AM
a quick update: raising NBvid to 1.25v idle and 1.3v load did not solve BSODs for me (F4G BIOS).
I just flashed back to F3 to see if BSODs will appear ...the problems started when I installed new
Vista image after SP2 fiasco, and a day later I flashed to F4g ...should have vaited
these were the BSODs I was getting with F4a and F4g bioses ...totally random ...usually at idle,
somtimes at load ... might be just some driver conflict
IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL
SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION
PFN LIST CORRUPT
villa1n
06-02-2009, 10:04 AM
a quick update: raising NBvid to 1.25v idle and 1.3v load did not solve BSODs for me (F4G BIOS).
I just flashed back to F3 to see if BSODs will appear ...the problems started when I installed new
Vista image after SP2 fiasco, and a day later I flashed to F4g ...should have vaited
these were the BSODs I was getting with F4a and F4g bioses ...totally random ...usually at idle,
somtimes at load ... might be just some driver conflict
IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL
SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION
PFN LIST CORRUPT
hrm, yeah that sounds like a hardware miscommunication, rather than a voltage error...
the bsod i was getting was
PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA, a classic memory bsod. maybe try Windows 7 ^^ i ve enjoyed it, the only issue i have is i bsod if i boot up with a WD external hd plugged in for some reason, not sure why, it seems to corrupt my boot up...maybe because i have images of other os's on it... and its reading it in bios as a usb boot up? dunno. hehe.
Bladesinger7x
06-03-2009, 01:21 AM
it might be that the drivers are in some sort of conflict, however, with F3 bios almost a day
has passed without any bsod ...might be that the memory timings are different with F4a and
F4g bioses.
about drivers, I was really annoyed with nVidia chipset drivers (coming from nForce 4 board),
but this AMD/ATI drivers are just a mess ...every chipset driver has CCC included as, as well
as video driver ...no wonder something migt be conflicting
what drivers need to be installed for the board 790X(XT) board:
- network driver (ok I know what these do)
- audio driver (as well as these)
- chipset driver/northbridge filter driver (is this the SATA driver?)
- I also found a southbridge driver (what is this driver for?)