1080 radiator sufficient for this?

[rambler358]

I think my previous thread on this got removed during this last forum maintenance. Anyway, I have a Magicool 1080 (9x120) radiator that I'll be using to cool an OC'd i7 920 (w/Enzotech Luna Rev.A block) and 2 GTX295s with Koolance water blocks. And I may be adding motherboard NB/SB and vreg blocks as well. I currently have a single Koolance PMP-450 pump with the PMP450A nozzle base.

Will the 1080 radiator and pump be sufficient for this, or would it be worthwhile adding a 2nd water loop with a 360 rad for the CPU/mobo, and leave the 1080 rad for the dual 295s? Thanks. :)

[LOUISSSSS]

yea it got removed, because that radiator is a huge waste of money and you're better off with a 480 rad or 2 x 360 rads. ;)

you can easily cool your cpu with an XSPC 360. then have another XSPC 360 cool your GPU's + NB. no need to do SB as they dont heat up much. unless the NB/SB is a single block

[rambler358]

No, I don't think that's why the thread was removed. :rolleyes:

My main question was if the 1080 rad would be sufficient for cooling the items I mentioned above. And if not, then I can easily add an additional 360 rad and split the loop. And yes, the mobo block I was referring to was a combined NB/SB block. But they're not yet available for the EVGA Classified.

[Freaky Freezer]

No, I don't think that's why the thread was removed. :rolleyes:

My main question was if the 1080 rad would be sufficient for cooling the items I mentioned above. And if not, then I can easily add an additional 360 rad and split the loop. And yes, the mobo block I was referring to was a combined NB/SB block. But they're not yet available for the EVGA Classified.

If the 1080 is not enough then you did something wrong. And if anyone tells you it is not enough it is because they are addicted to radiators. Post a pic of your comp after you're done. I'm curious how you end up mounting that radiator.

[eRazorzEDGE]

If the 1080 is not enough then you did something wrong.

this.

a 480 rad would be "sufficient" to run 2x 295's, quad CPU, and nb/sb/mosfets... it just depends on how hot you want your water temp to be.

i posted in your previous thread, but i'll restate it here. i have 2x 360 Feser rads, right now, cooling my single 4870x2 and NB/SB/mosfets and with 6 panaflo 115cfm fans turned down to 1500rpm each, at full load, i only get my water temp 3°C above ambient.

skinnee is coming out with a review of the GTX360, TFC360, and a few other 360 rads (i forget the specific ones) and all can pretty much cope with ~500 watts of heat with 1500rpm fan speeds and maintain a 10°C delta. which is a ton better than air cooling.

[Freaky Freezer]

this.

a 480 rad would be "sufficient" to run 2x 295's, quad CPU, and nb/sb/mosfets... it just depends on how hot you want your water temp to be.

i posted in your previous thread, but i'll restate it here. i have 2x 360 Feser rads, right now, cooling my single 4870x2 and NB/SB/mosfets and with 6 panaflo 115cfm fans turned down to 1500rpm each, at full load, i only get my water temp 3°C above ambient.

skinnee is coming out with a review of the GTX360, TFC360, and a few other 360 rads (i forget the specific ones) and all can pretty much cope with ~500 watts of heat with 1500rpm fan speeds and maintain a 10°C delta. which is a ton better than air cooling.

I'm sorry, quick question, ambient inside of case temperature or ambient room temperature?

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

If the 1080 is not enough then you did something wrong. And if anyone tells you it is not enough it is because they are addicted to radiators. Post a pic of your comp after you're done. I'm curious how you end up mounting that radiator.

(raises hand) yes im a radiator addict myself. :D

[rambler358]

If the 1080 is not enough then you did something wrong. And if anyone tells you it is not enough it is because they are addicted to radiators. Post a pic of your comp after you're done. I'm curious how you end up mounting that radiator.
This is the case I got from Performance-PCs, with the radiator pre-installed:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/images/products/PC-343B-WCE_01.jpg

I'm building the new rig right now, just need to wait for some additional fittings to come in. There's always something you forget when building from scratch. :yepp:

[Fragger]

You could cool your car with that thing.

[Serpentarius]

it's sufficient .... depending on the amount of fans and their CFMs ...

unless you're o/c both of GTX295s .... you might need to have and extra 9 fans just in case ...
but back-to-back you'll have to try and monitor the temps and the fruits of the o/c yourself

[Freaky Freezer]

This is the case I got from Performance-PCs, with the radiator pre-installed:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/images/products/PC-343B-WCE_01.jpg

I'm building the new rig right now, just need to wait for some additional fittings to come in. There's always something you forget when building from scratch. :yepp:

Oh ok. Thanks for the pic rambler. And I always end up forgetting something also cause I refuse to create a checklist, which I should. Good luck with the build.


You could cool your car with that thing.

Definitely a Geo Metro with the right fan.

[eRazorzEDGE]

I'm sorry, quick question, ambient inside of case temperature or ambient room temperature?

i always refer to "ambient" in a delta as the AIR IN to the rad temp, because that's what matters.


it's sufficient .... depending on the amount of fans and their CFMs ...

unless you're o/c both of GTX295s .... you might need to have and extra 9 fans just in case ...
but back-to-back you'll have to try and monitor the temps and the fruits of the o/c yourself

you could use 50cfm'ers on that thing and it'll cool it with at least a 10°C delta. that's just a guess - somewhat educated :p:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Well I said this before the XS blackout but that rad really sucks, so your really gonna have to put some stronger fans on there to get its performance up to snuff.

[Waterlogged]

I always wondered if anyone bought any of Hanks crack induced creations....

Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing but love for Hank and P-Pcs and I prove it by buying a lot of stuff from there...but..some of the things (particularly modded cases) he thinks up just leave me :eek2:

[Freaky Freezer]

i always refer to "ambient" in a delta as the AIR IN to the rad temp, because that's what matters.

So the air in the room that you're drawing into your case and over your radiator? Or the air in the case AFTER it has been drawn from your room and into your case and back out over your radiator?

[rambler358]

Well I said this before the XS blackout but that rad really sucks
Are you saying this rad sucks from personal experience, other users or what? :confused: If you have any evidence (reviews, links, etc.) that can verify your statement, I'd really like to see it.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Are you saying this rad sucks from personal experience, other users or what? :confused: If you have any evidence (reviews, links, etc.) that can verify your statement, I'd really like to see it.

I'll try to find it but I know that the rad is 3 magicool rads slapped together and I know that the magicool rads are bad but have to find it. ;)

EDIT: hmm maybe the data I saw was old... HES's recent testing shows the magicools have improved, but I wonder which model they have used to make this 1080 rad....

[rambler358]

Seeing as how I just got this case and rad, I'd have to assume it's the most current.

[Freaky Freezer]

Are you saying this rad sucks from personal experience, other users or what? :confused: If you have any evidence (reviews, links, etc.) that can verify your statement, I'd really like to see it.

Hey Rambler. Even if it does "suck" as some have said, which may or may not be true, chances are you aren't going to return it cause you've already ordered everything and have everything planned out with that particular radiator. So do everyone who says, thinks or knows that this radiator sucks a favor and report some detailed temperatures and information to us once you get it all put together.

We need more real world temperatures and experiences with products instead of always having to simply rely on bench tests to tell us whether or not; something works, performs well, performs like crap, performs average, good enough, extraordinary, complete garbage, worth the money, not worth the money, shouldn't even be sold etc. etc.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

Hey Rambler. Even if it does "suck" as some have said, which may or may not be true, chances are you aren't going to return it cause you've already ordered everything and have everything planned out with that particular radiator. So do everyone who says, thinks or knows that this radiator sucks a favor and report some detailed temperatures and information to us once you get it all put together.

We need more real world temperatures and experiences with products instead of always having to simply rely on bench tests to tell us whether or not; something works, performs well, performs like crap, performs average, good enough, extraordinary, complete garbage, worth the money, not worth the money, shouldn't even be sold etc. etc.

thats true a bench is just that a bench then its taken apart its not everyday use vs 20mins of testing :)

[rambler358]

Hey Rambler. Even if it does "suck" as some have said, which may or may not be true, chances are you aren't going to return it cause you've already ordered everything and have everything planned out with that particular radiator. So do everyone who says, thinks or knows that this radiator sucks a favor and report some detailed temperatures and information to us once you get it all put together.
I plan to! :) Though it's unfortunate I haven't been able to find any actual reviews as yet.

[monohouse]

on the subject of rads, what is the optimal number of bends ? I have a thermaltake 240 and a 120, they have 10....

[b@llz0r]

you seem to have the dough... so swap it out with a mora2 :)

+1 for that rad sucking ass... correct me if im wrong but its just 3 sucky 360s stuck together


edit: found it
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143393&page=2

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

on the subject of rads, what is the optimal number of bends ? I have a thermaltake 240 and a 120, they have 10....

:shakes: thermaltake uses condenser rads which are innefective at dispersing heat and are highly restrictive. DO NOT use themaltake water cooling. (its one of those things where you dont need to ask why)

[Eddie3dfx]

That grill in itself is $100 from performance pcs. Thats a very nice case. Perfect server setup, because you have all these bays for raid swaps.

[rambler358]

you seem to have the dough... so swap it out with a mora2 :)

+1 for that rad sucking ass... correct me if im wrong but its just 3 sucky 360s stuck together


edit: found it
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143393&page=2
That link above indicates the rad has 2 inlets and 2 outlets. My rad only has a single inlet and outlet, so I wonder if this is the same thing?

EDIT: Okay, in the last few pages of the above link it looks like the user has the same rad as I do. He seems pleased with it, but I'll reserve judgement until my build's complete and I can test it for myself. :)

[eRazorzEDGE]

So the air in the room that you're drawing into your case and over your radiator? Or the air in the case AFTER it has been drawn from your room and into your case and back out over your radiator?

my rads are outside of my case, in their own separate "case"

[Freaky Freezer]

my rads are outside of my case, in their own separate "case"

Got you

[b@llz0r]

out of interest, what pump are you planing on using?

[b@llz0r]

I currently have a single Koolance PMP-450 pump with the PMP450A nozzle base.

reading FTW :)


I think you are going to have flow issues with one big loop... got a flowmeter?

[rambler358]

I think you are going to have flow issues with one big loop... got a flowmeter?
Yes, a Koolance FM17 that I'll be using with a Koolance TMS-200 water cooling system monitor. The pump also has the new nozzle base which gives a little extra performance out of the pump.

That's why I was curious if it might be worthwhile to add a complete 2nd loop with a 360 rad just for the CPU/mobo and use the 1080 rad for the dual GTX295s perhaps. But I'll test it out once it's all together and see how the single loop performs first.

[b@llz0r]

I was thinking.... if its not shipped yet it would be worth while seeing if you can get ppc to install a MO-RA2 Pro for you instead.... its only $20 more and a much better rad

[rambler358]

I was thinking.... if its not shipped yet it would be worth while seeing if you can get ppc to install a MO-RA2 Pro for you instead.... its only $20 more and a much better rad
Already have it, but I asked about the MO-RA2 when ordering. The RA2 makes it very difficult to mount in the Lian Li PC-343B case without *extensive* modifications being done, adding quite a bit of $$$ to the purchase. So I just opted for the Nova 1080 rad.