Advice on how to setup loop in TJ07

[Mpetrosino]

Hey guys, ive been thinking alot on how to place all my watercooling parts in my tj07. Heres what i came up with:

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/Mpetrosino/wcmobo.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/Mpetrosino/basementwc.jpg

Its the only way i think it will fit without drilling more holes in the midplate. If anyone has any advice please let me know, thanks!

[justin150]

You have more space than you think (unless you are running about 12 HD) Pump can go in bottom compartment or just in front of 5 1/4 bays. Now if someone would make a slim radiator with G1/4 thread holes on both sides of the radiator so it would double as a fill port/reservoir as well that would be perfect for top of case. Alternatively get a 51/4 bay reservoir

I run 2x240 radiators (one in bottom compartment and one at top of case) and 2xDB1 pumps just in front of 5 1/4 bays - good temps and virtually inaudible

[3Z3VH]

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Now if someone would make a slim radiator with G1/4 thread holes on both sides of the radiator so it would double as a fill port/reservoir as well that would be perfect for top of case. Alternatively get a 51/4 bay reservoir
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You mean like the Swiftech Stackable MCR (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcr320-qp.asp) series ?

[Mpetrosino]

Do i have the order right? Pump->cpu->res->rad??? I could put the pump inside the hdd bay area if i had the ddc because of inlet outlet positions but i have a mcp655.

[liguhy]

You mean like the Swiftech Stackable MCR (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcr320-qp.asp) series ?

How well do those really perform? Are they really that much better than sandwiching fans between two radiators (with/without shrouds)? If you move the HDD racks out of the bottom part of the TJ07 (which practically all WCed TJs do) you can fit a quad and a double with significant space for fans.

[Serpentarius]

this is an old worklog of Tj07 ... but i think it should be a great reference for you
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149265&highlight=120.3+120.2+120.1

[liguhy]

this is an old worklog of Tj07 ... but i think it should be a great reference for you
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149265&highlight=120.3+120.2+120.1

So THAT's where those TJ07 HDD rack mod pictures I saw referred to in other XS posts originated from. Maybe an old post (funny hearing about the Core2 Duo as an upgrade :yepp:), but the mod info is timeless!

[LOUISSSSS]

your loop order is wrong, the pump needs to be immediately after the reservoir, everything else is up to you.

[3Z3VH]

How well do those really perform? Are they really that much better than sandwiching fans between two radiators (with/without shrouds)? If you move the HDD racks out of the bottom part of the TJ07 (which practically all WCed TJs do) you can fit a quad and a double with significant space for fans.

Better than sandwiching fans between radiators ? That is what these were made to do.

And as far as performance, I think Skinnee is working on giving us some benchmarks.

[NaeKuh]

charles makes the best tj-07 setups. :P

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=222384

They lack a little in performance compared to the norm of XS, but there absolutely jaw dropping.

http://www.murderbox.com/uploads/12.mb.009.1106.jpg

need i say more? :P

[faster3200]

And as far as performance, I think Skinnee is working on giving us some benchmarks.

HESmelaugh has already done some testing, although with some kind of weak fans. His tests were good for showing the proper way of setting up stacked rads and the importance of pressure.

Performance on stacked rads will be the same as two normal rads minus some percent depending on the fans being used.

As for the loop, it looks good. Not having your res before the pump (so long as your res is higher) won't completely ruin everything, it is just easier to go Res>Pump for bleeding.

[Mpetrosino]

So if i go Res>pump>rad>cpu, that will be ok...?

Isnt the water coldest right out of the radiator?.

Im also thinking of buying that UN pump mount so i can reverse the import outport locations, Is this ok? To have the pump on its side?

[Sadasius]

Isnt the water coldest right out of the radiator?.



Yes....The closer the rad is to the cpu the better because the closer it is the colder it gets....NOT:down:! The whole loop has an equilibrium after a short while. The water temps are basically the same throughout the loop. The CPU block benefits from pressure most of the time so that is the first place you pump into while you have the maximum pressure instead of wasting the pressure in a rad and having it come out like a floppy joe trying to get into a hooker....Oops I mean into the CPU block!

[liguhy]

so that is the first place you pump into while you have the maximum pressure instead of wasting the pressure in a rad and having it come out like a floppy joe trying to get into a hooker....
Sig quote! Sig quote! Pleeeaaaasssseee! :hrhr:

[Mpetrosino]

Yes....The closer the rad is to the cpu the better because the closer it is the colder it gets....NOT:down:! The whole loop has an equilibrium after a short while. The water temps are basically the same throughout the loop. The CPU block benefits from pressure most of the time ...

Ok cool, thanks for the info.

I need some good 90's if im gonna do this, any recommendations or what i should stay away from?

[Sadasius]

Use the BP 90 rotaries. There are a couple kinds. The one I am talking about looks like 2 45 degree rotaries together. Or you can actually use 2 45 degree rotaries together. Makes for a nice gradual curve instead of the sudden stop and go another direction.

[Prince21]

I fink you should redraw the design, a updated version..

[Mpetrosino]

Here is the update to my loop, I didnt like it at first because of going up and down my case twice but if this is how its suppose to be then this is the way i'll do it.

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/Mpetrosino/JKLJKL.jpg

Sorry for the bad picture...

I havent decided on a 5.25 Bay Res or an EK Cylinder res, If i get the bay res i'll put 2 45degree fittings on it. Some input on that would be great.

Also is it ok to run my pump on its side with a UN bracket?

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks.

[Prince21]

Are you cooling the chipset and the graphics card?

[Mpetrosino]

No not this time but maybe later on, If i was going to do that i would get a 240 rad and put it at the top of the case for the gpu's and i would add the chipset to the cpu loop.

[Mpetrosino]

Does anyone know if its ok to run my MCP655 on its side ( so input is facing up and output is facing the side ).

[Sadasius]

Does anyone know if its ok to run my MCP655 on its side ( so input is facing up and output is facing the side ).

Yes it's okay. The only wrong way is to mount it with the input downward.

[Mpetrosino]

Cool thanks, i'll keep you guys updated when i finish everything. maybe i should just make a worklog....