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hicookie
02-25-2009, 06:03 PM
Speak out for your Dream Motherboard of GIGABYTE!

Stunning overclocking ability, eye-catching colors, unique and cool thermal design, or a killer name for it? you name it.
If you can design your own motherboard without budget constraints or you were the head of GIGABYTE engineer team, how would you help the team to build a dream machine that every hardcore overclocker will dream of getting it or fight for it?
We are all ears to your opinions and complain about GIGABYTE’s motherboards.
Show off your creativity and write down your suggestions, ideas, even complain about GIGABYTE mobo, including layout, colors, software, tool, hardware, component,
accessory, colorbox, anything you can think of to make possible a dream machine/motherboard!!


First, start from me
1. black PCB, no useless printing words on it
2. full function all pcie and pci slots, more is better but still to be an atx
3. powerful controller maybe not onboard, like a hand contrller, i can trun music
volume,play..
4. a fully monitor i can see all voltages & temperature, fan speed and history
5. more reliable PWM IC, very precisely action
6. comes with a babe to tweak system overclocking 24/7 for me...lol

layout? what about idea for s1152 and m-atx size?
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1429/97052749.jpg

Gautam
02-25-2009, 06:12 PM
Keep the color scheme simple. Two colors only. Black, and white, and use the white sparingly.

gimpster123
02-25-2009, 06:14 PM
I definately like the idea of having a system monitor built in. I don't really see the need for 4 dif video ports...

ReverendMaynard
02-25-2009, 06:26 PM
well, for the X58's I would definitely make at least one PCI slot usable while using 3x graphics cards. SLI/Crossfire is more than just for benching; gamers like to have decent sound options other than onboard.

Ditch the Hybrid cooling solution and give end users a decent stock non-active cooler with a flat copper pad to mount whatever we like on it a-la-DFI's DK series.

Other than that, I really like the direction Gigabyte has taken since the P45's. Keep the pink memslots off, keep the bling to a minimal and you guys are laughing.

SpeedEuphoria
02-25-2009, 07:24 PM
Fix the S3 sleep on UD3P, also fan controll on other fan headers besides CPU(I'm fine with it but others would appreciate it)

Other than that I'm very pleased with my 1st Giga board

hicookie
02-25-2009, 07:35 PM
Fix the S3 sleep on UD3P, also fan controll on other fan headers besides CPU(I'm fine with it but others would appreciate it)

Other than that I'm very pleased with my 1st Giga board

you mean S3 with overclocking? lol, yup i know its hard

cstkl1
02-25-2009, 08:08 PM
first thing i would do is to find out why some of mobos burned my dimms.

gigabyte p45 ud3
gigabyte p35 dq6
gigabye n680 dq6

when it came to 4 dimm running at 1200mhz CL5 at 2.2-2.3v

and sacked and probably beast up the engineer that told me for the n680 dq6...
"we dont support or honor any dimm runnng above 1.8v"

but my first option would be change the bios design..
especially the overclocking options

hicookie
02-25-2009, 08:16 PM
first thing i would do is to find out why some of mobos burned my dimms.

gigabyte p45 ud3
gigabyte p35 dq6
gigabye n680 dq6

when it came to 4 dimm running at 1200mhz CL5 at 2.2-2.3v

and sacked and probably beast up the engineer that told me for the n680 dq6...
"we dont support or honor any dimm runnng above 1.8v"

but my first option would be change the bios design..
especially the overclocking options

burn module? a long-time running? or memset?send a pm to me.
and this thread i hope its about design, whats your idea of BIOS ?
do you mean the layout in BIOS? or BIOS options?

mikeyakame
02-25-2009, 10:45 PM
Personally I'd like to see an external POST status display, something like Asus' LCD Poster is all thats needed. Onboard POST State LCD is fine if you are open case benching or overclocking, but it's quite useless if doing it closed close.

More voltage monitoring functionality in bios, through something like a Winbond W83267DHG which I believe has 6 or 7 Voltage Inputs. Also sample the voltage readings at Vcc pins of the interface or chip if possible or close to as this is the reading that matters. A lot of times I see sampling done near by or at voltage regulator Vout pins for the signal, if there is sufficient drop or leakage between the output pin and input pin on the receiver at the other end, without going to the lengths of finding measure point close to receiver and checking each by hand a little design thought here would be fantastic. Even if there was an IO port on the board and a daughter board is either supplied or can be purchased separately with IO monitoring chips to save cost or optimize board space that can still be accessed through SMBUS address space at the minimum to read the data to an external device or through software that is easy enough to write :)

Otherwise GB boards are now a vast improvement of what they've been in the past. Design and bios wise. Last P45 board I played with didn't have very good recovery from failed POST, maybe that's changed and maybe it's also Award bios weakness too as most Award based boards I've used have similar traits here.

Movieman
02-25-2009, 10:56 PM
First we need a dual socket 1366 board with...:p:

hicookie
02-26-2009, 12:07 AM
First we need a dual socket 1366 board with...:p:

woop, bro you know the xeon launch delay....lol

Lsdmeasap
02-26-2009, 12:58 AM
I think if they revise X58 boards they should bring back the Older style heatsinks for all the models, not the "Copper" Colors, but just the style/make of the heatsink itself. I like the new colors better then the old.....

Those heatsinks for the NB and mosfets (Older type) that have the Very thin "Fins" or "Blades" release heat into the air MUCH better then the thicker style now used on the X58-UD4P and UD3R and lower boards. The ones used now on these boards just retain heat far to much, they are to thick to release any heat properly.

Hondacity
02-26-2009, 03:40 AM
1. metal screws for the heatsinks, rather than the plastick push pins...

2. the new south bridge too

3. x10 memory stability

4. temp display on the 8-segment display

5. yeah black pcb and 3oz copper ftw

NBF
02-26-2009, 04:07 AM
I would like something affordable with plain simple color and minimal onboard devices, huge OC potential is a must :D

Maybe some kind of a black and white strip down UD3.

No 20+ USB ports, no 20+ Sata, no 50+ phase, no super onboard sound BS... :rofl:

mreld3r
02-26-2009, 06:01 PM
I would like something affordable with plain simple color and minimal onboard devices, huge OC potential is a must :D

Maybe some kind of a black and white strip down UD3.

No 20+ USB ports, no 20+ Sata, no 50+ phase, no super onboard sound BS... :rofl:

yea, what he said :up:
exactly what he said. I am MOST impressed by the performance/price ratio. You
can still make an EXTREME version with lotsa do-dads and stuff on it, but the
performace/price ratio for the ud3p is awsome. AND it is still a 'well-optioned' board.
I think you really got the ud3p "right". When I was looking for a new motherboard
I didn't even consider the Gigabyte; until I saw all of the success stories.
I'm a very satisfied customer. And the price. You just cant go wrong there.

NBF
02-26-2009, 06:23 PM
Forgot to complaim about Gigabyte Brazil, they are at least 1 year late, still advertising UD2 :rofl:

Needless to say that P45 UD3 is not available here, let alone the X58 :shakes:

http://www.gigabytebr.com.br

sabe
02-27-2009, 12:25 PM
You know as long as they stop using like 5 baby colours, it'll do for me. I'm really not looking forward to baby blue + baby green + baby pink + baby orange ... etc etc

Slayer2k3
02-28-2009, 12:49 AM
2 colors, preferably black n orange so I don't have to redo my theme :p
saw the metal screws mentioned instead of push pins, but this is a must
I'd really like the option of NOT getting heatsinks at all, just because I strip them off and put it under water anyway, or aftermarket ones.
Someone make a D@mned s775 SLI mATX mobo PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!exclamation point overload!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I want to see a white PCB. I remember ASUS or a vid card maker a few years back making a white PCB mobo with red lettering/slots/hardware, and it looked sexy as heck, to me at least. It was ATI-based.

Slayer2k3
02-28-2009, 12:52 AM
Found it.

White PCB, with black hardware would be IDEAL!

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Cebit2005/Day5/images/sapp_gruper1.jpg

zanzabar
02-28-2009, 01:14 AM
i dont like black pcbs affter i had a resistor blow and i couldent see it in the case since the board was black (not that the pcb color is the base of my decision)

but i would like digital pwms, multi phase ram power, no heat pipes linking the NB/SB or NB/mosfets. no onboard sound (pci-e 1x card is preferred on a real 1x slot), removable non proprietary bios chip. fan headers that can take 1A, no firewire on the IO (or no firewire). compact flash or SD controller on the board that runs as an internal non removable HDD. and no display port, that needs to end before it can get rolling

Thallid
02-28-2009, 03:45 AM
White PCB, black components. Keep it as simple and clean as possible: no IDE, floppy etc, don't need 4*1 Gb Ethernet, not an army of USB ports and so on. However, I do want a stable, powerful quality pwm-circuit and some nice overclocking options.

It would have been nice with a board designed with pure performance in mind, a real enthusiast board aimed towards those who overclocks. We have tonnes of those "a little bit of this, a little bit of that"-motherboards, and they aren't funny.

ol'norton
02-28-2009, 01:42 PM
I would like a board were the VTT shown in EasyTune6 was the same as that measured on the board with a DMM, & the same as what the CPU was getting.
But mostly
6. comes with a babe to tweak system overclocking 24/7 for me...lol

CmB
02-28-2009, 01:48 PM
My 2 cents. PCIe slot placement. I'd love enough PCIe for Tri-SLi or CrossfireX (if I feel like it), sound card and raid card. Granted you don't really need these things but hey I love the options. We pay enough as it is for most X58 boards anyway. Oh and get away from the crayola colour scheme. More customers complain about Gigabytes colours than anything else believe it or not.
--Chris

IronWarrior
02-28-2009, 01:54 PM
I would design a motherboard with a well spaced out PCI-E true x16 slots, which are spaced enough to allow 3 triple slot cards, for example the Gainward GLH GPU's and enough room for a Sound card, Raid Card and lastly a TV card/Network card.

damtachoa
02-28-2009, 03:52 PM
1. must have 2x pcie 2.0 16x fully run at x16 for crossfire.
2. must have lcd display for voltage.
3. must be black & white board.
4. must take off onboard audio.
5. must design more luxury features.
6. must have better looking heatsink for NB/SB & moffet
7. must have Onboard Switch.
8. must have more phase power design.
9. must take off onboard watercooling.
10. must have EZ Flash.
11. must have DDR2/DDR3 compatible

zanzabar
02-28-2009, 04:04 PM
1. must have 2x pcie 2.0 16x fully run at x16 for crossfire.
2. must have lcd display for voltage.
3. must be black & white board.
4. must take off onboard audio.
5. must design more luxury features.
6. must have better looking heatsink for NB/SB & moffet
7. must have Onboard Switch.
8. must have more phase power design.
9. must take off onboard watercooling.
10. must have EZ Flash.
11. must have DDR2/DDR3 compatible

u cant have an i5 with ddr2, and ddr2 is bad and its not much cheaper than ddr3 now

Envy
02-28-2009, 04:29 PM
the ideal board to maximize pleasure would definitely be a xtreme mATX like no other with focus on pure performance, we need a small nuclear power plant hungry simple and clean. id include a sense of uniqueness and not call it:
GA-EX58-DS4
GA-EX58-UD3R
GA-EX58-UD4
GA-EX58-UD4P
GA-EX58-UD5
GA-EX58-mUD3
GA-EX58-HT5
i would call it:

Gigabyte ADDED EFFECT

after adding Thallid idea in a small black mATX PCB without useless printing words on it, stable, powerful quality pwm-circuit, pure performance in mind, a real enthusiast board aimed towards those who overclocks. will do a WOW like EFFECT.

this thread is full of terrific ideas! id focus on a real enthusiast mATX bord.

carpo93
03-01-2009, 01:17 AM
here's my two dream mobo
atx:
GIGABYTE STARSHIP CRUISER
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200903/20090301101005_test2.jpg
classic giga desing but cpu zone is very clean for insulation
3 way sli and crossfire-x
12 phase for cpu, 3 for memory and 3 for nb
floppy connector in different position because if i've a ga e58 ud5 and i'm running 3 way sli i can't use floppy connector

and matx:
GIGABYTE STAR FIGHTER
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200903/20090301101456_test2.jpg
classic giga desing but cpu zone is very clean for insulation
sli and crossfire-x
12 phase for cpu, 3 for memory and 3 for nb

OC BIOS SETING

CPU Feature
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

Special Boot(Processor will boot with lowest multiplier and when it has booted it will set selected multiplier):Enabled
Boot Multiplier:15
Windows Multiplier:21
DRAM
DRAM Command Rate: AUTO/1N/2N etc
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 9
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 24
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Performace Level
DRAM Frequency: 6x/8x/10x/12x/14x/16x Memory multipliers

Voltage Setting
CPU Vcore Control: AUTO
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM s Voltage: 1.605v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.21v
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
QPI Voltage: AUTO

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO/4.8GT/s/5.866GT/s/6.4GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 133 Mhz
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
UnCore Frequency: 2x to 32x Uncore multipliers
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

mikeyakame
03-01-2009, 02:10 AM
I'd actually like to see an Advanced option named something like this :)

Disable SAD D_LCK Bit Write or IMC PCI Register Write Lock [Enable][Disable]

On X58 boards only of course :)

dinos22
03-01-2009, 02:45 AM
nice initiative
i like the comments you made and really am appauled but some of the member's posts here trying to derail a thread already :shakes::shrug:

what would be the possiblity of out of the box insulated boards for condensation
this would appeal to people wanting to go hard but unsure of good insulation techniques

also i would like to see you guys have a manual vcore control without the need for software.....but PLEASE no flashy buttons and plugs or bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: that will add too much to cost.

proper vdroop control so that mods are not required...this should be standard on all overclocking boards these days but we still have you pull out the tools to solder the VRs

change the colour of bios screen....bit tired of blue/white screen hahahah

also whatever is designed you guys need to work on a low cost overclocker rather than top dollar flashy board.....shoot for a max US$200 board....

no need to any fancy watercooling on NB or anything that will add to cost. ALU stand alone heatsink is FINE!!!....NB is no longer important for overclocking on i7 so dont waste precious resources or increase cost of the board on it unnecessarily

no need for floppy or IDE....just try to save wherever possible to be able to get it into that kind of budget!!!!! No need for a million sata ports or raid....

anyone needing raid will get a proper hardware raid controller for PCMARK

also beat up Futuremark into a deal where purchasing that board will enabled ppl for supercheap licenses to all their software..........

i know that this will not be a popular thing in your sales and marketing but costs of boards are getting out of hand and it needs to go down big time
it goes same for other parts >> nudge nudge to Francois, nvidia/ati etc etc heheh

there should be a dedicated board that will be TRIMMED down and cut down for benching specifically so that it doesnt compete with the normal products and is literally purpose built for overclocking

please stick to just ONE board and not 10xdifferent versions of the same thing

SIMPLICITY IS EVERYTHING IMO :D


Think VALUE/HARDCORE/OLDSCHOOL/FUNCTION OVER LOOKS

that's all ive got at the moment :up:

mikeyakame
03-01-2009, 03:11 AM
Word son :) Repping Old School is the only way to kick it. Don't need corny ridiculous BIOS option names either, ASUS already has plenty of them as is. Break the Trend. Name them correctly for what they do and take a leaf out of DFIs book.

Supply a secondary manual or PDF outlining the functionality of the option itself, just basically what it does especially if the bios is for some kind of HUSH HUSH Gigabyte secret. Having fancy named options might look cool, it might also make some endusers happy but overclockers aren't interested in spending weeks analyzing the behaviour of particular GB-SUPER-ENHANCE-MAGIC options to find out all it does is more aggressively set up interconnect delay skews and breaks other things while doing it ;)

Ket
03-01-2009, 06:43 AM
I'll base my ideal board on a P45 simply cos its affordable to all.

1. 6-8 layer PCB, black, no writing. (whats the point in the writing when its covered in more detail with the manual?)
2. All solid state high quality capacitors and high quality ferrite chokes
3. At least 8 Phase power design
4. PCI/PCI-E/DIMM slots either black or red
5. Decent MOSFET, NB/SB cooling solution. IE; real copper not the copper plated aluminium crap.
6. Highly OCable, of course.

Now, the general layout. at the very top have a PCI-E 1\4x slot for PCI-E soundcards, next slot would be a PCI-E 2.0 16x slot, next just leave a gap as the slot is rendered useless anyway with a dual slot cooler, 3rd slot would be another 16x PCI-E 2.0 slot. Next would be another PCI-E 1\4x slot, and a couple PCI slots under that. As for gimmicky useful things, a LCD on the IO panel would be handy and a LED light next to the CMOS jumper that would A: help people find the jumper quickly in lower light environments, and B: be green when the jumper is in the normal position and red when the jumper is in CMOS clear position.

VRSpy
03-01-2009, 07:27 AM
I am surprise Ex58 extreme NB using holding plastic spring instead of Screw with backplate on Ex58 UD3r.
DOn't they know that the extreme NB hsink are being mounted onto the pci slot and need to be fully secured to the board, What happened if it was lifted up to the pci slot...Overheat or burned nb chipset.

cstkl1
03-01-2009, 07:42 AM
it happened a long time ago..bygones..

actually wish this is the best design for gigabyte
first stick with the normal foxconn design.. aka asus/dfi/foxconn.. the placements of the atx pin etc. my setup is always the same for cooling on the casing
but everytime if i ever change to a gigabyte mobo i have to redo the cabling a bit.

use digital vrm as dfi. full coverage waterblock from mosfets to nb/sb.. so its only i/o mosfet.. and the in/out barb should be at the i/o
bios wise it would be easier if it was more like asus and also dfi hybrid.. some of each
gigabyte for some reason even with the ud5.. the bios looks and arrangement is always been weird.

first slot on mobo should always be pcie 1x for sound cards and the full coverage block shouldnt block it.
create a poster read out but with a optional drive bay reader.. so buy once can use with all gigabyte mobo... hmm wondering y foxconn gave up on that idea... with a overclocking on the drive bay.. so it has to be dual drive bay..

this would probably be it for most ppl.

mreld3r
03-01-2009, 08:18 AM
OK, who doesn't smile when the UV light hits a UV-reactive mobo? I almost bought a DFI because of that fact alone. BUT; in every overclock there is a limiter.
I DONT want my mobo to be the limiting factor. My opteron was limited by ram. My 2160 was a bad chip. My 6600 was a bad motherboard. My 9650/ud3p is limited by
my cpu-cooler. I can (and will) fix that.
And; I dont wanna reset my bios, ever..
Just have it boot and say "that didn't work, try some different numbers". I know its probably not possible; all the time, but some mobo's are better than others.
I have only had to reset my bios once on my UD3; yea sometimes there is that boot-loop problem, but it is better than resetting the bios.
If it boot-loops, i just turn off the power supply for a couple of seconds and restart with new numbers.
Price/performance ratio.
Although the MFII is a great motherboard; these days,,,who has money? I know I dont have money. I don't want a lotta extra's. Just a good "honest" platform that wont
limit my overclock.
I really think its great that GigaByte gives a rats-a$$ what I think; even if my ideas are lame.

Brodholm
03-01-2009, 03:05 PM
Keep the color scheme simple. Two colors only. Black, and white, and use the white sparingly.

+1

Black and white is really nice together!

570091D
03-01-2009, 03:41 PM
x58 chipset

1. 10 phase digital pwm
2. ALL 7 EXPANSION SLOTS (i'm really tired of seeing x58 mobos with 1 or 2 expansion slots missing to make room for unbelievable nb heatsinks)
3. call me a looser, but i like uv mobos too :D
4. debug led, power sw, reset sw, jumpers for disabling pci-x slots on the mobo
5. active cooling for the nb heatsink assembly
6. i/o shield that lights up (asus el i/o)
7. tri-sli pci-x spacing
8. seperate shielded audio card
9. support for scsi hard drives
10. overclocking software that is stable, has plenty of options, and repots accurate info!!!

hicookie
03-01-2009, 05:01 PM
here's my two dream mobo
atx:
GIGABYTE STARSHIP CRUISER
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200903/20090301101005_test2.jpg
classic giga desing but cpu zone is very clean for insulation
3 way sli and crossfire-x
12 phase for cpu, 3 for memory and 3 for nb
floppy connector in different position because if i've a ga e58 ud5 and i'm running 3 way sli i can't use floppy connector

and matx:
GIGABYTE STAR FIGHTER
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200903/20090301101456_test2.jpg
classic giga desing but cpu zone is very clean for insulation
sli and crossfire-x
12 phase for cpu, 3 for memory and 3 for nb

OC BIOS SETING

CPU Feature
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

Special Boot(Processor will boot with lowest multiplier and when it has booted it will set selected multiplier):Enabled
Boot Multiplier:15
Windows Multiplier:21
DRAM
DRAM Command Rate: AUTO/1N/2N etc
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 9
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 24
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Performace Level
DRAM Frequency: 6x/8x/10x/12x/14x/16x Memory multipliers

Voltage Setting
CPU Vcore Control: AUTO
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM s Voltage: 1.605v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.21v
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
QPI Voltage: AUTO

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO/4.8GT/s/5.866GT/s/6.4GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 133 Mhz
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
UnCore Frequency: 2x to 32x Uncore multipliers
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


i like your layout:) consider the debug LED also, nice idea

Booj
03-01-2009, 05:15 PM
nice initiative
i like the comments you made and really am appauled but some of the member's posts here trying to derail a thread already :shakes::shrug:

what would be the possiblity of out of the box insulated boards for condensation
this would appeal to people wanting to go hard but unsure of good insulation techniques

also i would like to see you guys have a manual vcore control without the need for software.....but PLEASE no flashy buttons and plugs or bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: that will add too much to cost.

proper vdroop control so that mods are not required...this should be standard on all overclocking boards these days but we still have you pull out the tools to solder the VRs

change the colour of bios screen....bit tired of blue/white screen hahahah

also whatever is designed you guys need to work on a low cost overclocker rather than top dollar flashy board.....shoot for a max US$200 board....

no need to any fancy watercooling on NB or anything that will add to cost. ALU stand alone heatsink is FINE!!!....NB is no longer important for overclocking on i7 so dont waste precious resources or increase cost of the board on it unnecessarily

no need for floppy or IDE....just try to save wherever possible to be able to get it into that kind of budget!!!!! No need for a million sata ports or raid....

anyone needing raid will get a proper hardware raid controller for PCMARK

also beat up Futuremark into a deal where purchasing that board will enabled ppl for supercheap licenses to all their software..........

i know that this will not be a popular thing in your sales and marketing but costs of boards are getting out of hand and it needs to go down big time
it goes same for other parts >> nudge nudge to Francois, nvidia/ati etc etc heheh

there should be a dedicated board that will be TRIMMED down and cut down for benching specifically so that it doesnt compete with the normal products and is literally purpose built for overclocking

please stick to just ONE board and not 10xdifferent versions of the same thing

SIMPLICITY IS EVERYTHING IMO :D


Think VALUE/HARDCORE/OLDSCHOOL/FUNCTION OVER LOOKS

that's all ive got at the moment :up:

Spot on :yepp:

I'd love to see a board with just the base chipset sata & usb etc. Ideally no audio (not likely so a cheap realtek chip will do), no ide or floppy, no over the top heatsinks, single network, top quality pwm, voltage read points. No accessories are needed other than perhaps a backplate. Even the driver cd can go although thats unlikely.

I'm still happy to pay a premium for such a board, as long as it is thoroughly engineered and will ensure quality ongoing bios support. Detailed changelogs for bios' would be great. A short warranty period is acceptable.

For heatsinks, I'd like them to be designed firstly for cooling performance and lastly for appearance. They should have screws and use quality TIM throughout. The board should be subzero cooling friendly as it can be without compromising the design.

Gigabyte could market boards at different markets. They can promote a board tailor made for overclockers and then have loaded premium boards like the DQ6 with energy saver stuff for the other 99% of motherboard market probably running stock i7 920's..., We are a small segment, but having WR's on Gigabyte boards can't hurt the marketing..

570091D
03-01-2009, 07:51 PM
For heatsinks, I'd like them to be designed firstly for cooling performance and lastly for appearance. They should have screws and use quality TIM throughout. The board should be subzero cooling friendly as it can be without compromising the design.


+1 :up:

Movieman
03-01-2009, 07:52 PM
woop, bro you know the xeon launch delay....lol

march 30..:D
Now about this ideal Gigabyte board..
What we need is a dual socket 1366 board built with top components and designed to last.
2-3 PCI-e X16 slots and a pci-e X8
next, a BIOS with adjustments just like the single socket 1366 boards.
Do that and I'll write the check for $500.00 for it..:D

Prodigys
03-02-2009, 03:28 AM
I would like to see:


Complete BLACK PCB...
3 oz Copper PCB
100% full copper cooling units on PWM, NB, SB...
Dual bios that you can take out... (for repair eventually)...
DEBUG LED !
8 phase high power circuit for CPU
2 phase DDR3 curcuit
3 phase for chipset (X58) !
3 PCIe X16 2.0 slots with fully 16 lanes !
1 PCI-e X1 slot (sound card ?)
1-2 PCI slots...
Keep color scheme like black-orange base (black PCB, orange looking copper from cooling untis... take orange ram slots, orange PCIe slots etc...)
some nice LED's like the EP45-DQ6...


If you guys could do this, it would be REALLY nice ! I always bought Gigabyte, and now I already considering a i7 based Gigabyte board, so, make this fan happy !

Hornet331
03-02-2009, 04:25 AM
what i like to see:

pci slots -> gone
ide port -> gone
ps/2 ports -> gone
floppy port -> gone

i dont get it, why highend enthusiast board still have the old lagacy crap on board. I would understand if the boards where for mainstream/lowend market. But which enthusiast still uses a ide HDD (and if you have a IDE ODD, get a new DVD-Drive... investing in a board that costs 400$ but you can't spare 20$ for a sata dvd-drive... :rofl:)

I dont really care about the color, hell it even could be a pink board with neon green ramslots and violet and babyblue pci-slots. :p:

What i want is a good bios support, cause all the hardware is useless when the bios sucks. (oh btw. scrap the bios and gor for UEFI) :)

hicookie
03-02-2009, 04:59 AM
what i like to see:

pci slots -> gone
ide port -> gone
ps/2 ports -> gone
floppy port -> gone

i dont get it, why highend enthusiast board still have the old lagacy crap on board. I would understand if the boards where for mainstream/lowend market. But which enthusiast still uses a ide HDD (and if you have a IDE ODD, get a new DVD-Drive... investing in a board that costs 400$ but you can't spare 20$ for a sata dvd-drive... :rofl:)

I dont really care about the color, hell it even could be a pink board with neon green ramslots and violet and babyblue pci-slots. :p:

What i want is a good bios support, cause all the hardware is useless when the bios sucks. (oh btw. scrap the bios and gor for UEFI) :)

don't like old stuff? and if possible, no those old interface, what's new stuff you want put on?

carpo93
03-02-2009, 06:56 AM
i like your layout:) consider the debug LED also, nice idea

i can do better:D
now i'm working on a hq image of the atx board

ReverendMaynard
03-02-2009, 07:42 AM
can we get the CMOS battery perpendicular to the board instead of laying flat, potentially covered by a graphics card?

hicookie
03-02-2009, 11:02 AM
can we get the CMOS battery perpendicular to the board instead of laying flat, potentially covered by a graphics card?

say its a dreaming motherbaord, everything could be possible, but
your really think a perpendicular is better than flat? GIGABYTE has some
designs with perpendicular, most on i-ATX boards.

ReverendMaynard
03-02-2009, 11:07 AM
say its a dreaming motherbaord, everything could be possible, but
your really think a perpendicular is better than flat? GIGABYTE has some
designs with perpendicular, most on i-ATX boards.

When I can't recover from a failed overclock, and pulling the battery is my last resort....taking out the card that is in front of it is a pain in the ass. I only do that because the CMOS reset buttons are a joke as well. Nothing beats yanking the battery :)

It's not just about being perpendicular hicookie...it's about accessibility.

hicookie
03-02-2009, 11:14 AM
When I can't recover from a failed overclock, and pulling the battery is my last resort....taking out the card that is in front of it is a pain in the ass. I only do that because the CMOS reset buttons are a joke as well. Nothing beats yanking the battery :)

It's not just about being perpendicular hicookie...it's about accessibility.

hmm, you say it right, some battery's place isn't good, some are lie down the graphics. just afraid perpendicular design could be RMA reason, need to take it off very carefully. but i will consider that, nice idea, alos that will save layout space

ReverendMaynard
03-02-2009, 11:33 AM
hmm, you say it right, some battery's place isn't good, some are lie down the graphics. just afraid perpendicular design could be RMA reason, need to take it off very carefully. but i will consider that, nice idea, alos that will save layout space

Exactly and I see your point on the RMA situation. Where I would put it, is in a low traffic area like right to the left of the 24pin power socket.

fhpchris
03-02-2009, 11:52 AM
hmm, you say it right, some battery's place isn't good, some are lie down the graphics. just afraid perpendicular design could be RMA reason, need to take it off very carefully. but i will consider that, nice idea, alos that will save layout space

Please give us a white board!:yepp:

I want to see SAS onboard now like in the new Asus boards too.

I also want to see a board with a digital PWM that is very easy to insulate.

ReverendMaynard
03-02-2009, 12:17 PM
Man, I have no idea what the deal is with white boards but I guess it's a matter of preference lol.

Black/Midnight Blue PCB with gold would look mint :)

The board could look like a can of smashed anus's as long as it performs and the layout is top notch I'll buy it.

hicookie
03-02-2009, 12:52 PM
Please give us a white board!:yepp:

I want to see SAS onboard now like in the new Asus boards too.

I also want to see a board with a digital PWM that is very easy to insulate.

i consider white PCB before, just afraid not much people can accept it
seems like white/black never fade out the trend, you guys give more stronger
willing. about SAS, i curious does that really important, SAS has big capacity just like normal sata device, but SSD looks has some advantages.
but if possible a dream machine could have all those you want:D

[XC] gomeler
03-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Build an overclockers delight. Remove PS/2 ports, IDE/FDD ports, PCI slots. Have 3 PCIe x16 slots, two PCIe x1 slots with 1 usable with 3-GPU setups. Onboard LED post-code reader somewhere near the DIMM slots or the I/O panel. CMOS reset button on the I/O panel, have pwr/rst buttons up by the LED post-code reader. Dual-bios with jumper to select BIOS so you can always recover from a safe BIOS. For LGA1156 don't connect the ICH10R and MOSFET heatsink, don't waste the $$ on the heatpipes. On X58, have a thermalright tower cooler on the X58 chipset, some thin finned piece of aluminum on the ICH10R, and then have a linked cooler for the PWM. Give us an array of voltage read-points along with a way to adjust vCPU and vDDR3 on the fly. Something like Asus' Rampage Extreme would suffice. Within the BIOS, voltage monitoring for EVERYTHING. I hate that my DS4H doesn't monitor all voltages, just DDR2 and vCPU. Have two overclocking menus. Sometimes I just want to tweak FSB/QPI/HTT and some other rough settings, other times I want to tweak every damn setting available. Perhaps Simple Overclocking and Advanced Overclocking.

CmB
03-02-2009, 12:57 PM
SATA 3? Check. USB 3? (not that I really care) check. Mammoth peformance and no cold bug check. PCIe 3.0? check. Great voltage regulation? check. Reasonable price tag? (Here's looking at you EVGA Classifed) check.

Where do i buy such a board?:D

--Chris

hicookie
03-02-2009, 01:03 PM
gomeler;3689847']Build an overclockers delight. Remove PS/2 ports, IDE/FDD ports, PCI slots. Have 3 PCIe x16 slots, two PCIe x1 slots with 1 usable with 3-GPU setups. Onboard LED post-code reader somewhere near the DIMM slots or the I/O panel. CMOS reset button on the I/O panel, have pwr/rst buttons up by the LED post-code reader. Dual-bios with jumper to select BIOS so you can always recover from a safe BIOS. For LGA1156 don't connect the ICH10R and MOSFET heatsink, don't waste the $$ on the heatpipes. On X58, have a thermalright tower cooler on the X58 chipset, some thin finned piece of aluminum on the ICH10R, and then have a linked cooler for the PWM. Give us an array of voltage read-points along with a way to adjust vCPU and vDDR3 on the fly. Something like Asus' Rampage Extreme would suffice. Within the BIOS, voltage monitoring for EVERYTHING. I hate that my DS4H doesn't monitor all voltages, just DDR2 and vCPU. Have two overclocking menus. Sometimes I just want to tweak FSB/QPI/HTT and some other rough settings, other times I want to tweak every damn setting available. Perhaps Simple Overclocking and Advanced Overclocking.

defently overclockers no need old stuffs:D remove all those like FFD/PS/2...
are we very satified using USB drive to replace FFD doing lost things.
i know a powerful hardware monitor is need, and reading and watching voltages temperatures, fan-speeds we already spend much time on them,
we need a powerful hardware monitor. if you like to manage 2 overclocking menus? do you have some idea? like a simple layout of 2 menus? what features you will put in each other.:)

hicookie
03-02-2009, 01:04 PM
SATA 3? Check. USB 3? (not that I really care) check. Mammoth peformance and no cold bug check. PCIe 3.0? check. Great voltage regulation? check. Reasonable price tag? (Here's looking at you EVGA Classifed) check.

Where do i buy such a board?:D

--Chris

properly in 2010 Q1 ....lol, you know those chips not selling yet. even some
still under working..haha

CmB
03-02-2009, 01:15 PM
properly in 2010 Q1 ....lol, you know those chips not selling yet. even some
still under working..haha

That's exactly what makes it a dream board my friend:D Seriously I second gom's request, monitoring would be key. And for us lazy bones you could include an external clear CMOS button like MSI does on their P45 Plat.

--Chris

FatAlbert
03-02-2009, 01:36 PM
hicookie, shall I show only intel's mbs or can I show ya any am2+/am3 ? :D

Hornet331
03-02-2009, 01:51 PM
don't like old stuff? and if possible, no those old interface, what's new stuff you want put on?

depending on the board, for a pure ocing board, as less interfaces and peripherals as possible. (like the bloodrage but without any lagacy stuff).


For other highend mobos i would like to see 1x (or more) e-sata ports. I miss them on the GB boards.


I can't think of any other interface that i would need. (GB already has all the other interfaces on board :D)

zsamz_
03-02-2009, 02:06 PM
no blue pcb
no pink blue or white memory slots
digital pwm
3 phase for memory 4 phase for nb 8 phase for cpu
no crappy heatpipes
proper nb cooling pwm full copper
mx2 or better thermal paste
ddr2 must be able to run 1300 24/7
ddr3 must be able to run 2000 24/7
proper bios support

hicookie
03-02-2009, 02:18 PM
hicookie, shall I show only intel's mbs or can I show ya any am2+/am3 ? :D


yes, why not :D

nzbleach
03-02-2009, 02:32 PM
Black PCB with electric/neon blue slots like so :
If gigabyte did that and had a rock solid bios I would easily be buying there boards again.

http://www.abload.de/img/1ldii4.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=1ldii4.jpg)

FatAlbert
03-02-2009, 02:38 PM
yes, why not :D

good to know ;)

[paint mode started] :D:D:D:D

SpeedEuphoria
03-03-2009, 12:33 PM
fan headers that can take 1A

Speaking of this what is the spec for the UD3P? doesnt say in the manual. Normally if you have to ask its prob best on a fan controller,lol, just curious.

I thought I saw 10w somewhere, which would be .833A, is this correct? or is it more like .6A

570091D
03-03-2009, 07:20 PM
defently overclockers no need old stuffs:D remove all those like FFD/PS/2...
are we very satified using USB drive to replace FFD doing lost things.
i know a powerful hardware monitor is need, and reading and watching voltages temperatures, fan-speeds we already spend much time on them,
we need a powerful hardware monitor. if you like to manage 2 overclocking menus? do you have some idea? like a simple layout of 2 menus? what features you will put in each other.:)

how about 3 menus? one for changing bios settings, one for watching voltages, one for watching temps and fan speeds?

but really, the layout isn't as important as having good information in front of me!

NaeKuh
03-03-2009, 10:30 PM
yeah can we drop the pastel colors please. :X

blue and white, or blue and black wouldnt look too bad.

Rani
03-03-2009, 10:35 PM
If there was something to make connecting all the fiddly F_PANEL stuff easier it'd be a godsend. Like a plastic connector that you connect all the F_PANEL stuff too before connecting it to the motherboard. I don't know if I described it how I envisioned it, but with all this other motherboard stuff being pretty easy to connect I'm suprised the F_PANEL isn't a lot easier to hook up (on all motherboards not just Gigabyte).

mreld3r
03-05-2009, 05:06 PM
If there was something to make connecting all the fiddly F_PANEL stuff easier it'd be a godsend. Like a plastic connector that you connect all the F_PANEL stuff too before connecting it to the motherboard. I don't know if I described it how I envisioned it, but with all this other motherboard stuff being pretty easy to connect I'm suprised the F_PANEL isn't a lot easier to hook up (on all motherboards not just Gigabyte).

Now that is a good one, simple to execute also. I am using the f-panel jumper thingy from my old MSI mobo on my ud3p. Not a major thing, but its really kinda handy. If I pull my mobo out that thing is really nice. I have bad (old) eyes and my fingers are not real tiny. I HATE laying my fat a$$ on the floor with a flashlight trying to connect the f_panel wires to the right pins.
Lets be honest; you've all pulled out your motherboard to change a waterblock (or something similar) and left the f-panel wires connected; because you didn't wanna find the owners manual, then find the right page, then make sure the manual is oriented correctly, so it looks like the mobo etc...

Hornet331
03-05-2009, 05:34 PM
uh i know something that i have totaly forgotten, implent more fan headers that can be controlled via bios!
I mean damn.. my el cheapo msi P43 Neo3 had 2+1(cpu) fan header that offered basic controlled (100%, 75%, 50%)

Lsdmeasap
03-05-2009, 09:00 PM
uh i know something that i have totaly forgotten, implent more fan headers that can be controlled via bios!
I mean damn.. my el cheapo msi P43 Neo3 had 2+1(cpu) fan header that offered basic controlled (100%, 75%, 50%)

I have asked Gigabyte about this, and as of now they have said that the Software Guys will ask the Hardware guys about getting a few more addressed in the BIOS at least Setting wise such as System fans Voltage/PWM for more boards then they have now. But they did also say that not all would be able to be controlled either Voltage or PWM due to hardware issues, but they thought maybe a few could be added Via BIOS updates and the reason they had not been already was just maybe the fact that the software guys and hardware guys did get together much on this subject.

As for my board, some more thoughts after reading all that has been posted here

I hope for sure Gigabyte NEVER Drops Blue PCB's, I love them for sure and it is by far one of my favorite things about the boards. Although the board imaged above looks very nice in black. I do think that the same Blue plastic slots would look great on a Blue PCB board as well

hicookie
03-05-2009, 09:15 PM
I have asked Gigabyte about this, and as of now they have said that the Software Guys will ask the Hardware guys about getting a few more addressed in the BIOS at least Setting wise such as System fans Voltage/PWM for more boards then they have now. But they did also say that not all would be able to be controlled either Voltage or PWM due to hardware issues, but they thought maybe a few could be added Via BIOS updates and the reason they had not been already was just maybe the fact that the software guys and hardware guys did get together much on this subject.

As for my board, some more thoughts after reading all that has been posted here

I hope for sure Gigabyte NEVER Drops Blue PCB's, I love them for sure and it is by far one of my favorite things about the boards. Although the board imaged above looks very nice in black. I do think that the same Blue plastic slots would look great on a Blue PCB board as well

yup, add the hardware mointor and display cpu and all fans' speed, and allow
users to control it manually will be more functional, recently only one cpu and one system fan can control, and system fan only can run it auto controlling speed.