Valve's Gabe Newell: Left 4 Dead sales went up 3,000% during recent 50% off sale

[Telperion]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/099/1051099/steam-cashes-gaming-experience

GAMING PORTAL STEAM IS MAKING WADS OF CASH by giving gamers exactly what they want, when they want it, and copying content delivery models from the pirates and beating them at their own game, according to head steamer Gabe Newell.

In his keynote speach at the Dice Summit, the Valve boss said that direct download services closed the distance between game creators and their audience and, in an ebullient presentation, he pointed out how Steam had created a very succesful and highly lucrative business by realising that people who had resorted to piracy did so in most cases because they weren't being properly served by traditional retailers.

He said that the old way of reaching your punters was dead and that Steam was trying to touch its customers every three weeks rather than every three months when a new game is released.

The service, which now has 20 milion registered users, has partnerships with every major PC game publisher and offers full game downloads as well additional content and services for more than 350 of the top PC games currently available.

And with 100 per cent growth every year since the company started in 2004, it must be doing something right.

And what it seems to be doing right is adding value to the gaming experience. Gone are the days when you would by a game, complete it in a few days, then stuff it in a drawer or take it back to the shop to trade in.

Today's games grow and evolve with added content, new levels, new weapons, new characters, new features... and Steam has driven this sea change. And it's not just the game publishers which are involved in updating content and improving gameplay. User forums have become an invaluable source of new ideas.

The real success story for Steam, however, is that each successive major update or special offer creates sales spikes for the original titles as new players are tempted on board. Every time a new update is announced for Team Fortress 2, sales of the original game spike by at least 100 per cent and Steam registrations have been known to go up by 71 per cent during these periods. A recent half price offer on Left 4 Dead led to an eye-watering 3,000 per cent uptake in sales.

Any game exec out there pondering whether entertainment software is too expensive would be well placed take a close look at Steam's pricing policy. Newel reckons that the company has seen sales increase by 35 per cent with price cuts as small as ten per cent, whilst a 25 per cent cut can see the number of units shifted increase by 245 per cent.

[aintz]

i bought last weekend during that sale

[TheGoat Eater]

I bought it as well - haven't played it yet LOL... looking forward to playing it soon though

[G.Foyle]

people who had resorted to piracy did so in most cases because they weren't being properly served by traditional retailers.

I'm just repeating this sentence to make sure it gets proper attention.

[slpdLoad]

That's crazy. I know I bought a copy of TF2 for a friend over the holidays while it was on sale.

Although, just to derail, I must say I loathe the L4D sales. Just when it seems like the community as a whole has played a bit and is sufficiently experienced, the game goes on sale and we get flooded with 3000% new people to teach again.

/grumpy I-bought-it-the-week-it-came-out gamer :D

[Telperion]

Yes I'm one of the people who bought it during their 50% off weekend also. Just like I bought Bioshock during a sale. And S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl. All 3 games I've owned pirate copies of but Steam's content service is even easier than pirating so I figured hey I'll support their system. If Steam can draw people away from piracy, which it can and has multiple times in my case, that's something no other game resale system can claim.

slpdLoad: It took me about 5 or 6 hours of Versus gameplay to pickup all the basic techniques of gameplay so now even I'm getting frustrated when I get into a n00b server. :)

TF2 free weekends kill me as well.

[Angmaar]

I bought it last weekend as well.

[Asgard_thor]

Still don't have enough money for it :(

[Lightman]

I'm addicted to their 50% sales or Packet Deals! :D

I've mist out on L4D deal, but I already have too many games on my Steam to play, so I'm not that worried ;)

[HeXploiT]

Good job Valve. They treat pc gamers right.

[clayton]

Must feel so good sitting on that chair with all those incomes. ;)

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I buy games on steam with no 2nd thought, its the perfect way to do things :) I just wish patches were optional so I could play assassins creed in all its dx10.1 glory :(

ALSO: L4D is awesome, I love versus and I cant wait to get some SDK action going for more levels!

[SKYMTL]

I am still convinced that the digital version of a movie / game / program should be cheaper than the hard copy.

[Telperion]

Memorizing my credit card #, expiration, and 3-digit security code was when impulse Steam buys really started happening for me. :D

[RaZz!]

a friend of mine told me about that 50% off sale, but unfortunately it was already too late by then :( the regular price of 45€ is way too much for my taste...

[Bobsama]

:up: I bought it over the weekend. Played nearly 17 hours of it. It's a great game when you have an hour to blow. Really adds up too. That, in addition to like 13 hours of TF2, 13 hours of Mount&Blade (good game, by the way), and a few others. I bought Orange Box over Christmas too. By the way--I got ORange Box for $20 from GameStop, instead of like $30 on Steam.

[Telperion]

I paid $39 for the Orange Box last March which I still think was an incredible steal considering I have an ungodly 267 hours of gameplay on TF2.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I bought it right away it appeared on amazon.co.uk but haven't played it much lately. Still a good game but I need more maps, it's too repetitive now. At least I have to give credits for all the updates it's gotten and nowadays it's much more enjoyable than it was when I used to play it, so from that perspective I can't say people did a wrong thing waiting for the rebates.

[perkam]

Good job Valve. They treat pc gamers right.They recently started doing that :p: They have a LONG history of not doing what PC gamers want, so its good to see they're on the right path.

Perkam

[PrometheusCon]

Additional statistics from Bit-tech.net http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/02/20/valve-steam-is-making-us-rich/1

By analysing the figures Valve's been able to make some interesting predictions too. A 10 percent price reduction creates an average income increase (not just in sales) of 35 percent, while a 25 percent discount gives an increase of 245 percent. 50 percent discounts create average increases of 320 percent, while a price slash of 75 percent off will push income up by a staggering 1470 percent.

The single most impressive figure though is that one (unfortunately unnamed) third-party game saw an increase in sales of 36,000 percent in a single sale weekend. Wow.

[trinibwoy]

Well that's not particularly hard to do. If it was selling a single copy a week on average and 360 people bought it that weekend......


I am still convinced that the digital version of a movie / game / program should be cheaper than the hard copy.

Yeah me too. But note that the overhead of retail stores is gone but there's other overhead to contend with. Valve gets a cut for every sale and they need to maintain the steam service. So one source of overhead is replaced by another. Then when you add in the additional value to the end-consumer that steam provides they have a very good basis for selling digital copies at par.

[BGVirtual]

Well that's not particularly hard to do. If it was selling a single copy a week on average and 360 people bought it that weekend......


3000% increase of 1 sold copy is 31 sold copies :D

[BababooeyHTJ]

Im not surprised, I picked it up this weekend, too. I don't even plan on playing it for a while.

[Telperion]

Remember that EA is the hard copy distributor of Left 4 Dead so by cutting cost 50% on a practically pure-profit edition of Left 4 Dead, Valve is making far more money than a sale in a retail store would ever get them. It pays to give direct discounts in their business model.

[spicypixel]

Seems long story short is, selling more at less equals better, plus more active online multiplayer which increases demand more. Good strategy.

[Damien]

trust me, left 4 dead was worth $50. Once you know how to play the game (not just general, i'm talking you get good at the game and know how to not get screwed over), it's some of the most fun I've had in a game in a loooong time. And thats coming from someone who played CS and DDR for 6+ years :P

[Bobsama]

Additional statistics from Bit-tech.net http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/02/20/valve-steam-is-making-us-rich/1

By analysing the figures Valve's been able to make some interesting predictions too. A 10 percent price reduction creates an average income increase (not just in sales) of 35 percent, while a 25 percent discount gives an increase of 245 percent. 50 percent discounts create average increases of 320 percent, while a price slash of 75 percent off will push income up by a staggering 1470 percent.

The single most impressive figure though is that one (unfortunately unnamed) third-party game saw an increase in sales of 36,000 percent in a single sale weekend. Wow.
I'm assuming Mount&Blade. It was a title very few ever heard of but many would be interested in trying on the cheap.

[Aerou]

I'm assuming Mount&Blade.

I thought I am the only single person playing it :rofl: Not much, but still it has something not even PhysX over-juiced crap can have : good'ol FUN :yepp:

[Shaggy]

I want dawn of war soulstorm to be 75% again.

[Bobsama]

Aerosupra;3667558']I thought I am the only single person playing it :rofl: Not much, but still it has something not even PhysX over-juiced crap can have : good'ol FUN :yepp:

Plenty of fun. Heck--enable the cheats and you can take a few steps ahead. Advance yourself 5 levels or whatever at the beginning and just pick up without the beginning drag (or the sometimes VERY unfair battles, such as 30 Khergit Deserters versus you and three Vaegir recruits).

[Macadamia]

The single most impressive figure though is that one (unfortunately unnamed) third-party game saw an increase in sales of 36,000 percent in a single sale weekend. Wow.

I heavily suspect that game is Audiosurf.

10USD discounted to 2.50.

[Russian]

I wish i had gotten it... now its 50 bucks again.

And i also jumped on that audiosurf deal.

[Artmic]

i do not like Valve, no refund policy for games you buy which you can't play because their servers are messed up.

[topaimz]

Google + Valve = World Domination

[Oats]

I like steam, I'm 100% with buying digital downloads instead of wasting time/gas to drive to the store. That and I hate having to store CDs/DVDs where I can find them when I want to play a game.

Although online availability can be a bad thing, my car battery died and instead of going to the store I ordered one online and didn't leave my house for 5 days lol

[mr_knowitall15]

You would think this would give them the idea to lower game prices. Its going to cost a company a fixed number of dollars to produce a game. Youd think theyd want to sell as many as possible to maximize profits.
a 50% price cut, leading to a 3000!!!!!% increase in sales = butt-tons more profit. Sure theyre making half as much per copy, but theyre selling a whollle lot more than twice as many copies.

[Bobsama]

You would think this would give them the idea to lower game prices. Its going to cost a company a fixed number of dollars to produce a game. Youd think theyd want to sell as many as possible to maximize profits.
a 50% price cut, leading to a 3000!!!!!% increase in sales = butt-tons more profit. Sure theyre making half as much per copy, but theyre selling a whollle lot more than twice as many copies.

The issue is that if EVERYONE cut prices by 50% all the time, everyone's sales would only go up a tiny bit. That's why specials like these are so awesome for the companies--their title gets a weekend of focus for their target markets. They make a buttload of money.

[Aberration]

If the prices were cut in half all the time then people would get used to that price and spend the money else where. And they would end up actually making less.

[mr_knowitall15]

Those are good points. I was just getting at the fact that prices have gotten stupid. $60 bucks being the standard, with special editons usually costing 70 and 80, all the way up to 120 for extreme cases (halo 3 anyone?). I can only assume this is the reason gamestop has grown so much. With them selling used copies for a little less, and having the ability to return the game for any reason within 7 days, A game has got to be uber kickass for me to want to buy new anymore.:shrug:

[Dainas]

trust me, left 4 dead was worth $50. Once you know how to play the game (not just general, i'm talking you get good at the game and know how to not get screwed over), it's some of the most fun I've had in a game in a loooong time. And thats coming from someone who played CS and DDR for 6+ years :P


Counterstrike and Dance Dance revolution? Haha, yeah I'd be the first to listen to your advice on gaming 'fun' jk :rofl:


Seriously though, online only games should not be charged like its a complete package. $25 is still plenty of profit for steam, and as the sale proved the price was right there rather than $50.

[jasonelmore]

same boat as well. bought it for $25

I hate paying $50 for a game but I dont' mind if it has a great multiplayer.

Far Cry 2 was my last $50 purchase and the multi was supposed to be good..but it turned out to be very poor.

[Knight203]

I paid $39 for the Orange Box last March which I still think was an incredible steal considering I have an ungodly 267 hours of gameplay on TF2.


You think 267 hours is bad? Since February of last year I've played over 1,154 hours of Call Of Duty 4.... THATS SAD PEOPLE. I got L4d for Christmas I love it. I want to get TF2 but I cant find any one who wants to give it to me :P

[jasonelmore]

You think 267 hours is bad? Since February of last year I've played over 1,154 hours of Call Of Duty 4.... THATS SAD PEOPLE. I got L4d for Christmas I love it. I want to get TF2 but I cant find any one who wants to give it to me :P

your crazy for not owning TF2 already. you'll laught at COD4 after you put some solid hours on each class in tf2

[Decami]

I am still convinced that the digital version of a movie / game / program should be cheaper than the hard copy.

agreed...but that would be in a sensible world, where people actually questioned methods of the sort, before being screwed by it.

be honest though, wouldnt be a huge change. The package and book and disc, everything, all in, maybe a 5$ decrease, if that.

[FischOderAal]

a friend of mine told me about that 50% off sale, but unfortunately it was already too late by then :( the regular price of 45€ is way too much for my taste...

That's why I bought in in good 'ole UK, together with two DVDs of Jeff Dunham.


your crazy for not owning TF2 already. you'll laught at COD4 after you put some solid hours on each class in tf2

Having played both for several hours I have to disagree (CoD4 ca 140 hours ; TF2 less than 40 hours). TF2 is pure luck and teamwork, you need no tactic there if you're playing public with a clanmate. TF2 is pure chaos as well and fricking fast :D

[Knight203]

I agree the digital copy should be 10-15$ cheaper than a hard copy but they have to maintain servers to keep up with all the downloads so what they save by not having packaging goes to server costs. It balances out pretty even. Ive been using steam since 2006 I love it. Most every game I've bought I got through steam. L4D is a great game if you like your team mates and you can get people who wont leave if they die. I love valve they are looking out for the PC gamer in a market where PC gamers seem to not matter to most every one else.
I played TF2 on the ps3 a few times (got the orange box for my birthday) and it looks like a great game but I cant stand FPS on consoles.

[iddqd]

I bought it last weekend as well.

I forgot to buy it. Doesn't matter, though, they'll probably have two more sales before I actually have time to play it.

[HiJon89]

Another important aspect of Valve's success is that they don't really give pirates an option, pretty much all of the games they release are completely multi-player centered and they have a pretty solid system in place to keep pirated copies from getting multi-player and if pirates do get it work, Steam can release an update the next day that kicks off all the pirates. So basically if you want to play their games you have to buy them. (Unless you want to play on non-steam servers which usually sucks) Pirates may be cheap and amoral, but they're also lazy. After a few hours on torrent sites trying to find a copy of Left 4 Dead that would work on multi-player (I couldn't find the demo and I wanted to see what it's like) I got too lazy and just bought it for $50.

[jasonelmore]

Having played both for several hours I have to disagree (CoD4 ca 140 hours ; TF2 less than 40 hours). TF2 is pure luck and teamwork, you need no tactic there if you're playing public with a clanmate. TF2 is pure chaos as well and fricking fast :D

i'm gonna pretend you did not say that. You've been playing on some 30+ Slot servers obviously. a perfect tf2 server is 24 slots

[n!Cola]

I forgot to buy it. Doesn't matter, though, they'll probably have two more sales before I actually have time to play it.

I forgot to buy it aswell, but i just found this :
http://g2play.pl/p/en/60/left+4+dead+steam+key.html


Digital Download: You register a unique account on the game producer´s website. The registered account along with the key provided by us enables you to download the game 100% legit from the producer´s servers. The download is not limited in anyway: You may re-download the game on any PC without any time or other restrictions unless described else in the game description. There are no known territory limitations for key activation unless mentioned otherwise on the product page.

Play on Steam: The key provided by G2PLAY is an official Steam Key (www.steampowered.com). It is activated via Steam, enables you to play on official Steam servers and your game will be kept updated with the latest patches via the Steam platform. To activate our key via Steam simply download Steam, create a new account or login into your existing account, click Games and Activate game on Steam.

Express Delivery: Game with this symbol means that the game code is on stock and is delivered to you instantly after your payment (i.e. PayPal).



This Steam Key enables you to activate and download the full PC version of Left 4 Dead through yor Steam account.

There are no territory limitations for the activation of this key.

12.41 euro for cd key...

Anyone tried this ?
Sounds 2 good :D

[Luka_Aveiro]

I forgot to buy it aswell, but i just found this :
http://g2play.pl/p/en/60/left+4+dead+steam+key.html



12.41 euro for cd key...

Anyone tried this ?
Sounds 2 good :D

It works. "Everyone" here in Portugal bought L4D using that site's service, including me. :p:

Couldn't be happier with those Poland guys :up:

[mr_knowitall15]

You think 267 hours is bad? Since February of last year I've played over 1,154 hours of Call Of Duty 4.... THATS SAD PEOPLE. I got L4d for Christmas I love it. I want to get TF2 but I cant find any one who wants to give it to me :P

pfft. if u want sad numbers, see WoW. Ive been playing for 2 years exactly this month, and have amassed over 70 days of played time(somewhere in the neighborhood of 1700 hrs), 60 of that being on my main char. I am by no means a hardcore player either. Id go for days, sometimes weeks at a time without playing at all, i even quit for a couple months at one point. ( I had ONE stint of hardcore playing, and that was when wrath launched, i was "lucky" enough to be between jobs at the time, so 10 hrs+ a day lvling my happy ass to 80 was nothing.) Id LOVE to see the numbers posted by some people who are online all the time. One of my RL friends had like 5 lvl 70s before wrath, has 3 of them to 80 already. If hes not over 3500 at this point, ill eat my shorts.:rolleyes:

Back on topic: i DO know some people with 100s of hours logged in CoD as well. Couldnt get into it myself, trying fallout 3 as we speak. (and if its anything like oblivion, ill have a couple hundred in this in no time.)

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I only buy games from steam that are at least %25 Off. Because $50-$70-USD a game on steam is mental for pricing. For instance I bought DOWII for $79-AUD at retail store, If I was to pay the $60-USD That steam is asking for. It would cost me $102-AUD. So I saved 23 bucks getting retail.

When i do see good %50, %75 off i jump at it. I have about 100 games on steam and only a few are AAA titles. But I never pay full price on steam as the games can't be resold..

I want perimeter 2 but I won't pay full price i will just wait for a discount day.

[shoota]

i got l4d on the weekend sale and i'm a firm believer that lowering retail prices on games will lead to more sales. It may not seem like it but you gotta figure in that even though they aren't profiting directly from the sale, they are profiting from the fact that we aren't going to pirate it. I would NEVER have paid $50 for l4d, but $25 is a no brainer. I'm glad they dropped it cuz i'm loving this game.

[Loque]

It works. "Everyone" here in Portugal bought L4D using that site's service, including me. :p:

Couldn't be happier with those Poland guys :up:

how can they be selling keys for that price ?

[Knight203]

Yeah I've played competitively for last year so all night scrims and what not add up.

[Luka_Aveiro]

how can they be selling keys for that price ?

their currency, afaik, is the polish zloty... the game costs 54PLN, that is about 11,5€.

the game is region free, so a key bought in poland can be used from any user in the world.

you gotta love Poland :D

[azraeel101]

I forgot to buy it aswell, but i just found this :
http://g2play.pl/p/en/60/left+4+dead+steam+key.html



12.41 euro for cd key...

Anyone tried this ?
Sounds 2 good :D

Just bought Diablo II plus LOD from that site for 4.6 euros in total :D

it took almost a day for them to send my cd keys but for this price I don't complain..

It also has the Orange Box for like 8 euros :yepp:

Too bad I didn't knew about this site when I bought both L4D and the orange box..

[Jamesrt2004]

I want to buy of that website through paypall but have no idea how :/?

it said to register then it said it completed etc.. but i didnt actually do anything lol

[slim142]

Now, if they could just make this on Retail products, it would be better.

I dont buy games via Steam

[Luka_Aveiro]

I want to buy of that website through paypall but have no idea how :/?

it said to register then it said it completed etc.. but i didnt actually do anything lol

you have to associate to your paypal acount a credit card... have you done it yet?

sorry the offtopic :\

[Jamesrt2004]

you have to associate to your paypal acount a credit card... have you done it yet?

sorry the offtopic :\

sorry for offtopic also,,,,


and yes already have my card etc set up for it :)

I use ebay with it etc... just not sure how i'm meant to do it for this website :/

if you wouldn't mind PM'ing me some instructions that would be great :)

[trinibwoy]

It may not seem like it but you gotta figure in that even though they aren't profiting directly from the sale, they are profiting from the fact that we aren't going to pirate it.

But can you even pirate L4D? Valve's combination of effective and relatively painless DRM and a pleasant customer experience is working wonders for them.

[DeltZ]

dammit, I'm part of that statistic ><

[RaZz!]

But can you even pirate L4D? Valve's combination of effective and relatively painless DRM and a pleasant customer experience is working wonders for them.

yes, you can pirate l4d. actually, there are a lot of ripped steam games lately. i don't know if these really work or not (and i don't even want to know tbh), but a search at the common places shows that there are indeed pirated versions of l4d, fear2 and so on all over the inet.

[FischOderAal]

The unbreakable copy protection has yet to be invented... But I'd say Steam is probably the hardest out there. Now just add something that we can sell Steam-games and I'm fully satisfied. kthxbai

[Papu]

That's why I bought in in good 'ole UK, together with two DVDs of Jeff Dunham.



Having played both for several hours I have to disagree (CoD4 ca 140 hours ; TF2 less than 40 hours). TF2 is pure luck and teamwork, you need no tactic there if you're playing public with a clanmate. TF2 is pure chaos as well and fricking fast :D

luck? more like skill Flare gun pwnage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkDxcksplU)

lies damned lies , Its quick to learn hard to master , Allot of players port skills over from other fps's , rocketlaunching from quake , sniping from css , twitch and movement from ut , but if you want to win and play on servers with people who want to win , tactics (using comms) getting ubers ready , calling spies.

If you want tactics , Clan matches 6v6 8v8 highlander all involve tactics , if you aint got it your going to loose.

[zanzabar]

Now, if they could just make this on Retail products, it would be better.

I dont buy games via Steam

why would u not buy something like this on steam, there is no way to pay it without steam and its only good im multilayer that requires steam login. i wouldent buy non multiplayer games on steam unless they were extra cheap or cheaper and had no securom since i wont buy a game with that or staforce

[slim142]

I like physical copies of my games

[zanzabar]

but if valve goes so dose the game, u can t play it without it. and u can make a backup disk

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I like physical copies of my games

if your organized enough to keep you game discs and cd-keys in order, motivated enough to change the disc when you want to change the games, willing enough to download patches individually and deal with organizing them, wealthy enough to pay full retail of $50 for a game and patient enough to reinstall all your games by hand when you reformat....

then by all means don't ever use steam because it would be far to convenient and cheap for your liking.

[Blauhung]

I am still convinced that the digital version of a movie / game / program should be cheaper than the hard copy.

:up: I support this post

[drizzt5]

:up: I support this post

It isn't? It was when i originally bought cs:s on steam rather then spending the extra $10 to buy it at game stop.

That's the only example i can think of :/ lol...hmmm

[randomizer]

I like physical copies of my games

So do I, my Steam account has been completely destroyed over the weekend. Games no longer exist, Steam Community ID is no longer the same so I'm a "different" person (my public profile still shows up if i look for it, I'm just no longer connected to that profile) and all my preferences seemed to go back in time to when I first creaed the account, even the contact email. Still logs in fine, I just can't do much with it.

At least physical copies can't be lost in the aether.

[bahlgren342]

if your organized enough to keep you game discs and cd-keys in order, motivated enough to change the disc when you want to change the games, willing enough to download patches individually and deal with organizing them, wealthy enough to pay full retail of $50 for a game and patient enough to reinstall all your games by hand when you reformat....

then by all means don't ever use steam because it would be far to convenient and cheap for your liking.

LOL this made me laugh.

I've been using steam back when it was made just for Counter-strike 1.6 beta. Oh how it all has changed.

I swear if Valve's game quality drops over all this money their making I will be pissed. I have patiently waited for all of Valve's game releases knowing they put out quality products and have yet to be dissapointed.

I was skeptical on L4D. But it is sooooo much fun playing on expert with good people that actually know what theyre doing and know good strategies and etc. The Versus is also a blast.

[HiJon89]

LOL this made me laugh.

I've been using steam back when it was made just for Counter-strike 1.6 beta. Oh how it all has changed.
Yup, I remember when CAL went 1.6 only so we all had to sign up for Steam accounts and switch :D Funny thing is we all turned around and sold our 5-dig Steam accounts for $150 a few years later, thanks Valve :up:

[STEvil]

Yup, I remember when CAL went 1.6 only so we all had to sign up for Steam accounts and switch :D Funny thing is we all turned around and sold our 5-dig Steam accounts for $150 a few years later, thanks Valve :up:

How do I check how many mine is? lol :D

[Telperion]

I've got a 7-dig, which isn't amazing, but it's a lot lower than most people.

[bahlgren342]

Mines a 6er. I have too many games on it though to sell it. 211511 :) nice and easy to remember

[HiJon89]

How do I check how many mine is? lol :D
While in game type status in console and it should say something like:
STEvil 0:0:479294

In this case your SteamID would be 0:0:479294 (which would be a 6-digit)