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Soulburner

11-02-2003, 03:14 PM

I underestimated these EE's.....I figured maybe 28k would be about the limit but since these guys have ES's that makes all the difference in the world...and with the XT now even higher is possible...

30k is very close now....which originally I thought we wouldn't see until the new cards come out in the spring.

Iridium192_217

11-02-2003, 03:59 PM

there goes the short lived reign of athlon 64.....

Sovereignty

11-02-2003, 04:04 PM

4470mhz 3dmarkable. Gotta love -107 :banana:

uclajd

11-02-2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by charlie
Yeah,
Just freekin' amazing! And to think....soon any normal person could own this chip... You mean, like now (http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1067620714.html)?

Hope you AMD boys enjoyed being on top for a month. You are now relegated back to "bottoms." :stick:

mrnuke

11-02-2003, 04:05 PM

:bows::bows::bows::bows::bows::bows::bows::bows:

god we all need these chips :)

Major

11-02-2003, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Iridium192_217
there goes the short lived reign of athlon 64.....

Hehe, don't count out the A64/FX51 platform yet, still a newborn and learning to crawl. The p4 platform is a seasoned vetern and aproaching the end of the road.

:toast: Congrats Fugger ! ;)

Iridium192_217

11-02-2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
Hehe, don't count out the A64/FX51 platform yet, still a newborn and learning to crawl. The p4 platform is a seasoned vetern and aproaching the end of the road.

:toast: Congrats Fugger ! ;)

the fx chip is mighty powerful, but its mobos are all terrible & the overall cost is more for an fx rig than a p4ee one, assuming you already have a mobo from your old "C" chip.

uclajd

11-02-2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
Hehe, don't count out the A64/FX51 platform yet, still a newborn and learning to crawl. The p4 platform is a seasoned vetern and aproaching the end of the road. LOL, and Intel isn't just retiring from the CPU biz with the end of the P4. Next gen is on the way, sport.

Personally, I'm holding off until Tejas Extreme Edition ships. ;)

CrashOv3r1De

11-02-2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by uclajd
LOL, and Intel isn't just retiring from the CPU biz with the end of the P4. Next gen is on the way, sport.

Personally, I'm holding off until Tejas Extreme Edition ships. ;)

I wouldnt count them out yet. Besides there are/will be many more A64 3200+/FX-51 owners then the P4 3.2EE ($900 lol i cna get a mach ii for that for price...much better investment imho)

uclajd

11-02-2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by CrashOv3r1De
I wouldnt count them out yet. Besides there are/will be many more A64 3200+/FX-51 owners then [sic] the P4 3.2EE And there are more Pinto owners than Porsche owners. Not sure I see the logic here.

($900 lol i cna get a mach ii for that for price...much better investment imho) Of course, unlike high-end FX systems, EE buyers won't have to buy new mobos and RAM.

The money is a push; you're going to go broke with AMD or Intel if you want to be on the first page of the Orb, my brotha.

Nookie420

11-02-2003, 05:13 PM

macci, mickeymouse, hurry up and beef your a64 systems and take back the hill!

hehe. man, 29k, holy lord, thats just amazing.

that almost makes me want to convert to the dark side.........almost

Iridium192_217

11-02-2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by charlie
Yeah,
Just freekin' amazing! And to think....soon any normal person could own this chip...

C

what became of your weekend bench?

bigballaga

11-02-2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Sovereignty
4470mhz 3dmarkable. Gotta love -107 :banana:

WTF,,, this wouldnt be the BIGHARDWARE Sov would it ?!?!?

hahahahahah
:confused:

kromosto

11-03-2003, 01:17 AM

as i said 5 weeks ago 30k will be in this year greak job fugger

saaya

11-03-2003, 02:32 AM

Just freekin' amazing! And to think....soon any normal person could own this chip...

not really, i dont think a normal person would spend more than 400$ on a cpu... far away from the 1000$ itll cost in retail ^^

Ranger2992

11-03-2003, 03:31 AM

I am a normal person, just a joe blow on the street, a soldier in the US Army. Guess what? I am buying one. Why you ask? Because I can. I work hard for my money and can spend it anyway I want.

People buy extreme things everyday for their own little hobby. Maybe it's dropping $2000 for golf clubs, $10,000 for hookers, $30,000 for a bass boat, or even $80,000 for a Vette that they will more than likely rarely get over 100 MPH. People spend their money on what makes their boat float and makes them feel good.

I am sure at some time every member in here has bought something that was very expensive that all the people around them were like "what the hell are you doing" It's just part of being a human and wanting something nice for yourself. Being able to say you have the best and not the same thing every other joe blow has.

I hope I didn't offend anybody with this, but I find myself getting more annoyed everyday as I read comments in threads about somebody being crazy for spending so much money. My advice, don't worry about what other people spend their money on and enjoy what you spent your hard earned money on :toast:

interman

11-03-2003, 03:43 AM

i agree.. a high-end system doesn't come close to the expenses that other hobbyists have to handle (hifi anyone? ;)), but then again, "normal" people don't look at a high-end system as an investment as much as a bass boat is for a guy who likes to fish. but hey, if you can afford it, and it is your hobby, then why not..

ALT-F13

11-03-2003, 04:41 AM

Xtremely remarkable score and CPU clocks! And 600/430 XT is killer clocks too.
Congrats FUGGER! Great job as always!

KingInge2000

11-03-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by kromosto
as i said 5 weeks ago 30k will be in this year greak job fugger
Yeah, me 2. But i see some more. AMD will realse 3400+ in Nov i think.

Garrett

11-03-2003, 05:28 AM

Damn nice score Fugger!!
I'm wondering what OPP can do for us with that videocard and his AMD... yes peeps it's done with an Intel once again :)

Gotta love these 'battles' eh? ;)

-edit-
Seems that OPP only had the 28K nr.1 crown for 1 day :p:

And suddenly there's 1000 points more for Fugger... omg

I hated when my 16k4 score got crushed by 10k, but now it looks like it's going to be doubled in the not too distant future :D

FragMagnet

11-03-2003, 05:44 AM

Nice job Fugger ! I'm far more impressed with those EE's after seeing your results.

Good point Ranger2992, ten years ago I co-owned a speed shop in Canada. We were racing in the U.S. one weekend and returned to find the shop had been broken into. When we were talking to the police listing the missing items, their jaws dropped when they heard the value/cost of the items (superchargers, Hillborn injection unit, etc.) Until my partner questioned what the officer spent on his boating hobby, he didn't understand.

CrashOv3r1De

11-03-2003, 10:32 AM

Yeah guys do whatever makes you feel happy. Personally I love spending money. I am a joblesss 16yr old but I got some $10k in my bank account (got it for free off a stranger lol).

The comments about "this is too expensive" are really annoying. It maybe too expensive or not worth the money for someone but the person who buys it obvisouly has a good reason for doing so.

Another of my hobbies besides computers is collecting amanda bynes autographed photos. I spent a fortune on them. Why you ask? Becuase amanda bynes is damn hot!

Sarcastro

11-03-2003, 12:18 PM

And 29k wasn't even broken by just 10 points but more than 250 in the same go. Incredible:slobber:

Excellent work Fugger!

Evil_Spork

11-03-2003, 12:37 PM

look at the top 3dmark now! its an mx440! wtf LOL.. one point higher than fuggers score too rofl..

congrats fugger!

flesh

11-03-2003, 12:43 PM

wow that's amazing!
can't wait until 30K comes. and great XT clocks!!!!

and those who think the price on this CPU is too much, there's an AMD64 less than half the price with great preformances

i wish i had that system :D

jmg823

11-03-2003, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Major Slaughter
Hehe, don't count out the A64/FX51 platform yet, still a newborn and learning to crawl. The p4 platform is a seasoned vetern and aproaching the end of the road.

:toast: Congrats Fugger ! ;)

just wait till amd goes to .09 micron process :D
intel is coming out with that too though

anyone know which is coming out first?

Death ++

11-03-2003, 02:40 PM

incredibly amazing, my athlon xp is crumbled to dust and left for a crack head to try a quick fix by your p4 ee. if i had the money, i think i would get it, but i have a low paying, part-time job, pay for my own car insurance and gas, and have enough for small time parts. it takes me awhile to save enough money for something like that. maybe someday...

Craig

11-03-2003, 05:57 PM

Well, it's all well and good to say this chip is cheaper, but it isn't for those who don't have a 875 board and the latest RAM.

For the very few who can afford 1K CPU's is fine and I wish them well. But Intel will sell very, very few of these as such prices.

I"m try'n to decide which I'll buy the P4 3.2 or go on wiating for somebody to make a Xtreme motherboard for the Athlon64, and also hope'n AMD releases the XP3400+ soon.

As long as the Athlon64 was delayed I expected better motherboards to go with it.....disapointing.

If I don't buy soon (P4 3.2) I may as well wait till spring and see what the motherboards and chips of the 939 type look like.

caater

11-04-2003, 03:54 AM

BTW.. are boxed EE's unlocked or do U have to pay $1000 for fixed mult too?

Soulburner

11-04-2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by caater
BTW.. are boxed EE's unlocked or do U have to pay $1000 for fixed mult too?
Its not unlocked.

Soulburner

11-04-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by jmg823
just wait till amd goes to .09 micron process :D
That is not happening for a long time.

Intel has already beat them to it by a longshot.

Aldus

11-04-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Soulburner
That is not happening for a long time.

Intel has already beat them to it by a longshot.

How do you know that ? AMD has been working with IBM to help them transfer to .09nm.

Soulburner

11-04-2003, 02:33 PM

The article I read said AMD is not ready for it.

At any rate Intel is already there.

CrashOv3r1De

11-04-2003, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Soulburner
The article I read said AMD is not ready for it.

At any rate Intel is already there.

Your going have to wait a long time there pal. When the technology will come out in the spring it will be very immature and buggy just like the current A64 mobos out now.

I would suggest getting a P4 3.2C right now for about $400...You can get up to 3.6~3.8Ghz w/ it on good air cooling and 4.2+ on phase/water..

If this is a system you wish to keep for a few years then go with the A64 3200+ w/ the Gigabyte nf3 mobo or the chaintech

saaya

11-04-2003, 05:53 PM

huh? intel is already making 90nm chips for weeks now and it works great, they only have some major issues with their chip design they need to fix, but the manufacturing process works great. i dont think amd will have a lot of probs to shrink to 90nm, the opteron is just an upgraded athlon and athlons have always been easy to shrink because of their simple and robust design.

there will be 90nm a64s in Q1 already and a lot of them in Q2 it seems.

Marine_1

11-04-2003, 08:23 PM

All I know is that one machine is single handedly tearing apart AMD. what were you AMD guys thinking? The best cpu is the EE. Good luck.

Way to go FUGGER!!! XS is now and will be #1 on the orb for a while!

mrnuke

11-04-2003, 09:09 PM

i think xs has so many talented people here that they will always be a few steps ahead of others, thats why i joined, to get help and tips :)

Soulburner

11-05-2003, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by CrashOv3r1De
Your going have to wait a long time there pal. When the technology will come out in the spring it will be very immature and buggy just like the current A64 mobos out now.
Not true, Intel already has made 90nm CPUs and they don't have problems with their fab process. The article I read said AMD is not ready to make the move.

st0nedpenguin

11-05-2003, 06:40 AM

For my own personal rig, I don't really care which is "The fastest", all I know is that I have had a lot more fun playing with AMD than I did playing with Intel, and my wallet is a lot happier too. :D

JeffPH

11-05-2003, 06:44 AM

congrats fugger well done!

texuspete00

11-05-2003, 07:24 AM

It's pretty much the 1k EE vrs. the $400 Athlon 64 3200+. I think AMD did pretty well. Brand spanking new sweetness cpu usually top at 600 or so no?

Think stock for a second. The 3200+ has 200MHz less than the FX but and half the memory channels and holds its own. It's a shame AMD doesnt have more rescources, cuz I think the FX without registered memory would make for an interesting clash of the $800FX and the 1k EE titans!

I get what some say with the buy what you want thing, but some are directly comparing the price of the highest AMD vrs Intel and thats not really right in this 3dmark competition or thread. AMD's 3d mark chip right now is the 3200+, not a "little cheaper" by any means.

CONGRATS BTW!
:toast:

CrashOv3r1De

11-05-2003, 10:27 AM

Yeah texus is right. A64 3200+ stock vs P4 3.2EE does hold this own and were talking about a $600 price difference. Job well done AMD ... if you would only get some decent mobos now but heck thats up abit * asus