GTS240 is an OCed 9800GT.

[onethreehill]

Firstly, GTS 240 is a high-frequency edition of 9800GT. The core/shader/memory clock of GTS 240 is 675/1688/2200MHz, compared with 600/1500/1800MHz found on 9800GT, so we can say it has improved a lot.........................
Source: Expreview (http://en.expreview.com/2009/02/17/gts-240-is-not-equal-to-9800gt.html)

[CraptacularOne]

So.....they bump up the speed slightly and it's supposed to make up for the fact that Nvidia has now re-spun the same card 3 times? :down:

:horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse:

[570091D]

"so we can say it has improved a lot"
:rofl:

[Vozer]

"so we can say it deserves a new name"
:rofl::rofl:

[DragoonXX]

so, its slightly better RAM, other than that...its only marginally faster than my STOCK 8800GT XXX (670/1600/1.95)

[turbox997]

If it's around $70 I might consider it. But that's because I'm coming from a very dated 6800GS.

[STEvil]

I bet my 8800GTS/512 @ 825/2050/1100 is faster :D

Run daily at 800/2000/1050 though.

[perkam]

So its a 9800GT. Now you know, so don't buy it.

If the average consumer is troubled by it, they won't either. Otherwise, they will. Re-branding is an essential recession-era marketing tactic to improve sales and reduce inventories.

Perkam

[GAR]

So its a 9800GT. Now you know, so don't buy it.

If the average consumer is troubled by it, they won't either. Otherwise, they will. Re-branding is an essential recession-era marketing tactic to improve sales and reduce inventories.

Perkam

very simply put and 100% true

[Vapor]

Think about the financial trouble nV would be in if they didn't have G92 being able to live an insanely long life...they're either lucky or smart.

Sucks we've had no innovation though :shakes: Not even a new feature :rolleyes:

[GAR]

Think about the financial trouble nV would be in if they didn't have G92 being able to live an insanely long life...they're either lucky or smart.

Sucks we've had no innovation though :shakes: Not even a new feature :rolleyes:

Blame the game developers, when an 8800GTX, tech from 2006 can run most games at 1920x1200, the drive for innovation is slowed down. Most upcoming games for 2009 are ports, an 8800GTX will have good life through 2009, making it a 3+ year investment, for a video card, 1+ year is considered good in my book.

[WaxCactus]

this so called GTS240 looks like The old 9800GTX with those clocks altho this one is 55nm :S

[hollo]

So its a 9800GT. Now you know, so don't buy it.and a 9800GT is a 8800GT

2 overclockings + renamings is extreme, but not xtreme

[dartai7]

It will probably outperform HD4830 with those clock speeds

[gOJDO]

I don't know why people are compalining, but nVidia are so innovative. They rename their cards every two months. :rofl:


It will probably outperform HD4830 with those clock speedsThe stock 8800GT/9800GT already outperforms HD4830.


So its a 9800GT. Now you know, so don't buy it.

If the average consumer is troubled by it, they won't either. Otherwise, they will. Re-branding is an essential recession-era marketing tactic to improve sales and reduce inventories.

PerkamWhat's wrong with buying it if it's priced properly?

[Macadamia]

LOL @ Exp. More nVidia sausages to suck?

Anyway they have to bump the clocks, considering RV740XT will be as fast as that while using less power, diespace, and PCB layers (after non-reference designs come). Slow (3.6Ghz) GDDR5 is also probably cheaper than when it was @ 4870 launch.

[eric66]

hmmm must find smiley for this Oh here it is :sick:


:ROTF:

[rado992]

Hey, why complain? ;) I bought an 8800GT a year ago and it turns out that I have a GTS 240 card now LOL :D My 8800GT (voltmodded @ 1.35Vgpu) OCes to around 650/1780/2000, so maybe 2-3 % slower than GTS 240 sometimes.. and sometimes even equal...but look at this from another perspective: Apart from GTX200/HD4000 (both simply pack more shaders which, incidentally,havent really changed from the G92/RV670), videocards haven't evolved much, so a card that's a year old still handles games rather nice (having no new HW to develop for, game coders can't code a game that's too hard on today's hardware). I'd happily upgrade the GTS240...errr..8800GT for something more powerful, but at least now I can wait till something really innovative comes out. :up:

[WaxCactus]

i should rename my 8800GT TO GTS240 In my Sig XD

[G80]

Hah, G80, G92 will never die. Well they are still performing good. Its not like Nvidia is rebranding 5200FX' cards...yet :D

[gOJDO]

Hah, G80, G92 will never die. Well they are still performing good. Its not like Nvidia is rebranding 5200FX' cards...yet :DI'm not sure abou G92, but G80 won't die in near future, since you are G80.

[alucasa]

Well, now, we need someone to make a username G92 then.

[Ozzfest05]

what I dont understand is we all know the g92 core can clock like mad and they run pretty cool if they spent some time and refined it meaning more stream processors more memory and 55nm they could clock the SSC editions to say 900 mhz and be safe to run 24/7, ive seen some beast 8800gts 512's out there clock 900 on the air cooler with all this new technology shouldnt they be capable of higher clocks

[gOJDO]

what I dont understand is we all know the g92 core can clock like mad and they run pretty cool if they spent some time and refined it meaning more stream processors more memory and 55nm they could clock the SSC editions to say 900 mhz and be safe to run 24/7, ive seen some beast 8800gts 512's out there clock 900 on the air cooler with all this new technology shouldnt they be capable of higher clocksCore clock is almost irrelevant. What matters is Shader and video RAM clocks.

[Serra]

Grotesque.

I hate looking for low-mid range cards right now, every effing card I have to do an exhaustive background check on to see if they're re-spun this or re-spun that. FFS do video card manufacturers not see that every other tech product changes names only when the actual components change? A Core 2 Duo at 2.2GHz is still a Core 2 Duo when Intel ups the clocks to 2.8GHz, and that's a bigger change than this is seeing.

[xlink]

rerelease of a rerelease of a rerelease of a rerelease of a rerelease of a rerelease of a...

[zerazax]

four letters:

fail

[Sliced Cheese]

Haha, my card is clocked higher than that 24/7 paid $100 CD for it a long time ago when they were selling for $130, still under the 8800gt name. Renamed twice, I just keep making money! :D


Hah, G80, G92 will never die. Well they are still performing good. Its not like Nvidia is rebranding 5200FX' cards...yet :D

I still have one of those in my other machine!

[Ket]

Ahh.. good old nVidia. You can rely on them to pull some underhanded tactics. My 3870s OCd still pull nice numbers even in the likes of Crysis Warhead. I see no reason to upgrade until they struggle.

[grimREEFER]

so is this meant to compete against the 4670?

[Xoulz]

is it DiextX 10.1 compatable?

What shader?


:down:

[XSAlliN]

Guess nVidia didn't like this article, so got deleted:


Error 404 - Not Found

[Macadamia]

Never saw that one coming :rolleyes:


So now we know it's not just the company that's spineless. :welcome:

[trinibwoy]

Lol, did they really pull the article? Weak.

[Newblar]

so is this meant to compete against the 4670?

no the 4670 is a 3870 in disguise
might give the newer 4830 a run though

[XSAlliN]

I guess nVidia was thinking:

What they don’t know can’t hurt them

Now that some know, they hope to hide it some how, so that the average user would fall for it (more marketing i guess). It's to late to change things now since GTS 240 might already be in mass production.

[eXa]

no the 4670 is a 3870 in disguise
might give the newer 4830 a run though

No the 4670 is not the 3870, they perform quite equal but is not the same.

[gOJDO]

No the 4670 is not the 3870, they perform quite equal but is not the same.They have different GPU's. The only common for their GPUs is the stream processors count. Other than that, they are different.

As for the performance, they are not equal. The 3870 is faster

[eXa]

If you want to be techincal about it the 4670 also har 32Texture units and only 8 ROPs (vs 16/16 of the 3870) but it also only have a 128 memory bus.
And ur right, 4670 only seemes to equal 3850 or even slightly lower..

But enough OT, this is about the green :banana::banana::banana::banana: :p:

[K404]

Good for hardware category benching...bad for everything else

[Mr Roboto]

Man Nvidia just keeps releasing great hardware. I really loved my 8800GT but I sold it to buy a new 9800GT. As soon as the GTS240 comes out I'll probably sell my 9800GT and buy one of these.

[CraptacularOne]

is it DiextX 10.1 compatable?

What shader?


:down:

It's exactly the same as the 8800GT/9800GT DX 10 and SM4.0 only.

[ToTTenTranz]

Man Nvidia just keeps releasing great hardware. I really loved my 8800GT but I sold it to buy a new 9800GT. As soon as the GTS240 comes out I'll probably sell my 9800GT and buy one of these.

You'll have lots and lots of placebo-induced FPS improvements!

How cool is that, uh? ;)

[Mr Roboto]

You'll have lots and lots of placebo-induced FPS improvements!

How cool is that, uh? ;)
Oh yeah it's awesome! I swear I got a nice boost.

:horse:<--Nvidia--

[onethreehill]

GTS240 Card Exposed
http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/image.php?m=540&s=http://resources.vr-zone.com//uploads/6620/GTS240_P361_1.gif
http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/image.php?m=540&s=http://resources.vr-zone.com//uploads/6620/GTS240_P361_2.gif

We have already told you quite a bit of details about GeForce GTS 240 which is slated for April release. It is basically 55nm G92 based 9800 GT GPU on a new P361 PCB and internally Nvidia calls it D10P2. Now we will provide you a glimpse on the schematic diagram of the GTS 240 card. The differences are mainly on the power design department.
Source: VR-Zone (http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-geforce-gts-240-card-exposed/6620.html?doc=6620)

[Aryton Senna]

So what do you think the price on this will be?

I am considering a ATI 4830 Card at the moment<---These apparently run around $95 at new egg.

[trinibwoy]

Stock 9800GT MSRP is $125-$130 right now I think. And they're going for $100-$110 at the egg. So I figure GTS 240 needs to come in at $100-$110 MSRP and ~$90 street.

[highoctane]

Its pretty amazing what $100 will get you in the gpu market anymore, allot of bang for your buck overall.

Hell look at how much we spend on one little cpu and with a video card there's the cost of the pcb, heat sink, memory, voltage regulation & gpu itself.

[perkam]

So what do you think the price on this will be?

I am considering a ATI 4830 Card at the moment<---These apparently run around $95 at new egg.There is nothing better than an HD 4830 under $100 atm. (please don't link me $100 9800s After Rebate, its annoying)

As for this card...maybe it has more OC headroom?

Perkam

[Quadwing]

four letters:

fail


QFT

[BababooeyHTJ]

It's no worse than the GTX285, imo. :shrug:

[Ket]

GTS285 at least had a die shrink, GTS240 ain't even getting that.