How to set FSB on CrystalCPUID?? Oh and BTW FX@2915 [Archive]

charlie

11-01-2003, 09:13 AM

How do you set the fsb from within CrystalCPUID?? It's getting very tedious going into BIOS every 10 seconds and I'd like to determine where the top end is on this CPU ??
Here's a taste at 1.775V before I Vmod the mobo...

Iridium192_217

11-01-2003, 09:21 AM

:slobber:

I wish I could tell you, but I dont know

your going to bench with your xt & that chip soon right?

charlie

11-01-2003, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Iridium192_217
:slobber:

I wish I could tell you, but I dont know

your going to bench with your xt & that chip soon right?

Yeah sure....
I'm just playing around a bit now to find some limits, and later I'll put the XT under Dry Ice ALSO.... because 471/429 just isn't enough to do much damage on the ORB... :D
Fugger has absolutely NOTHING to worry about, lol....but a few other scores might ;)

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Hallowed

11-01-2003, 09:27 AM

Charlie, any scores to report?

shray

11-01-2003, 09:56 AM

what the fugg is that in performance rating?

charlie

11-01-2003, 10:29 AM

Nothing to write home about...
I'm out of Dry Ice right now, but can get some this afternoon. A few quick observations, punching up the CPU speed so much and all the boots and re-boots tends to corrupt the HDD and such...
This CPU loves Voltage, I'll do the Vmod later so I can punch 2V at her...I wasn't REAL happy about the temps on Asus Monitor, only -27C at idle, hopefully it's not accurate, and the temps are better.
But for now, the scores at 2.8V and 470/428 are "good" :D

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charlie

11-01-2003, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by MickeyMouse
charlie any pic's on the DI setup ;)

Jason,
Unfortunately no piccies of setup (no digi camera :()
Although it's the same equipment as THIS:
I really need a sweet a** Nikon, like your CP4300, Jason!

charlie

11-01-2003, 10:54 AM

So does anyone know how to change FSB from within Windows???

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Spec3

11-01-2003, 10:56 AM

Amazing......that's all that needs to be said!!

charlie

11-01-2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Spec3
Amazing......that's all that needs to be said!!

Oh, it's got MORE left...that was still at good mem timings and ONLY 1.775V. I even ran game 1 Car Low at that speed :D
I'll have it WELL over 3G tonight.
But I really need to learn how to adjust fsb in windows?? CrystalCpuid? or the Nvidia one?? CrystalCPuid works, but I can't find where to push for fsb adjustment, and the readme.txt is in Japanese!

Back on air now, inspected the board for condensation... this is actually an EXCELLENT board for DI/Phase Change, lots of space around CPU, and the backplate is excellent for getting good contact, just use #4-40 threaded rods as anchors! I'm re-installing the O/S and changing some benching optimizations and I'll put it back under DI this evening along with the XT.

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Aldus

11-01-2003, 11:15 AM

Good luck with 3G (dont think you'll need it though :D) !

Jeff

11-01-2003, 11:16 AM

***charlie... charlie... charlie... charlie... charlie...***

Looks like you are gonna kick a little booty. :D Can't wait to see the results.

macci

11-01-2003, 12:14 PM

Nice :)

So does anyone know how to change FSB from within Windows???
Your using the NF3 mobo rite?
Try nVidia sysutil (http://www.nvidia.com/object/sysutility_1.0)
If it doesn't work then there is pretty much nothing you can do about it (clockgen etc wont work since NF3 does't have external PLL chip, its all in the SB).

eshbach

11-01-2003, 02:29 PM

yea, the nvidia system utility is the only thing i can think of. what kind of FSB can you get? any chance at something like 270x12 with the 5:4 divider? seems like something like that would have a real chance at breaking 30k if you could get your card around 550/425.

charlie

11-01-2003, 02:41 PM

Slight speedbump or 2 here...
Got a bit of condensation around socket giving stability fits...
Am drying out now w/ hairdryer. Wondering whether I should remove IHS??? Afraid to damage core with DI tube base...
Never stopped running, just got reallly unstable. In earlier testing with dry iced 9800XT I got 25,209 @ 531/431 @ 2386mHz. What do you guys think? Is there 26K in there?
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QuadDamage

11-01-2003, 02:42 PM

charlie,
that's some amazing clocks my man:) yeah use nVidia's utility but i'm not sure if it works on your mobo.

Popcicle

11-01-2003, 03:20 PM

Charlie.....

Just send that sucker to me and I'll make the
FSB changes for ya at regular intervals. FedEx
knows my Casa.

Kudo's on your fine work their my man. DI
is killer.

eshbach

11-01-2003, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by charlie
Slight speedbump or 2 here...
Got a bit of condensation around socket giving stability fits...
Am drying out now w/ hairdryer. Wondering whether I should remove IHS??? Afraid to damage core with DI tube base...
Never stopped running, just got reallly unstable. In earlier testing with dry iced 9800XT I got 25,209 @ 531/431 @ 2386mHz. What do you guys think? Is there 26K in there?
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i think there's alot more than 26k in there if you can benchmark at close to 3ghz!

saaya

11-01-2003, 04:22 PM

if it does 3.1ghz+ witha high fsb and your card likes the dry ice 29K+ should be no problem :)

i would remove the ihs, if your too scared to kill it better dont do it, thats a really nice chip you have there! highest ive seen so far was 3.3ghz with ln2, would be too bad if you kill it trying to take of the ihs... just slap some liters of dielectric grease on your board :D

Iridium192_217

11-01-2003, 04:24 PM

charlie, if you dont get above 27k it is a disappointment in my book

good luck!

Dajo

11-01-2003, 05:38 PM

come on man BENCH

Good Luck BTW

charlie

11-01-2003, 06:20 PM

Thanks guys,
It looks like I'm going to have to do the 9800XT Vmod, I'm a bit disappointed at 539/433 @ 1.81V Hopefully it'll get better. The CPU runs OK... I tried running at 2850 and I couldn't quite complete 1 test, with more voltage I think I can go farther.
Just as a side note, in testing I broke 500 for drago low...pretty good. Still having problems loading 3dmark results...

saaya

11-01-2003, 06:24 PM

2v shouldnt be a prob, with dry ice you can probably even run 2.5v without smoking the chip :D

LardArse

11-02-2003, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by charlie
Thanks guys,
It looks like I'm going to have to do the 9800XT Vmod, I'm a bit disappointed at 539/433 @ 1.81V Hopefully it'll get better. The CPU runs OK... I tried running at 2850 and I couldn't quite complete 1 test, with more voltage I think I can go farther.
Just as a side note, in testing I broke 500 for drago low...pretty good. Still having problems loading 3dmark results...

Charlie, can you tell me whats the best bios for the board and where to get it? Is there a special way to flash it or just the normal routine stuff?

charlie

11-02-2003, 07:09 AM

I'm on 1003.006. Follow the directions on the website using the ".exe" command after booting with a separate boot disk.

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charlie

11-02-2003, 07:39 AM

Oh.... This one worked! :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7181653

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QuadDamage

11-02-2003, 07:40 AM

do you think you can hit #1 with higher fsb and your current 540/433 card clocks? lets say at 12x230 or something like that?

charlie

11-02-2003, 07:42 AM

Quad,
I don't think it'll go #1, the EE's are performing SOOOO well... but I'll give it a go! It's benching much better today ??

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Hallowed

11-02-2003, 10:15 AM

Link is bad, I wonder if Charlie here beat it already. ;)

charlie

11-02-2003, 10:40 AM

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7181819

Sorry bout that!!

Hallowed

11-02-2003, 03:17 PM

Charlie, how high can you run on FSB? You have the parts and cooling for 28K but the horsepower just isnt showing up yet. :idea:

Oh, and definately find a way to get 2k on that rig. :) 300+ free points.

Nookie420

11-02-2003, 04:26 PM

not bad scores man. yeah, even i picked up a few hundred extra 3dmarks points from win 2000 on my wimpy rig.

charlie

11-02-2003, 04:27 PM

Hallowed,
It's the chipset/Reg. DDR, 230 is about it...I even tried using 9 multi, maybe using the Vdimm mod and feeding the CH-5 3.2V might help. I'll get the score up...the board is quite flakey, I need to figure out why I run artifact-free at 540/430 but LOSE points now...26,062 @ 2637 520/425 and 25,998 @ 2708 540/430.

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saaya

11-02-2003, 04:35 PM

gpu hickups... gpu needs more voltage i guess.

xgman

11-02-2003, 06:23 PM

Charlie, I get a bit more out of 2-3-3-6 but your right, the xhipset on this particular board is limiting. I can't really tell if the vdim mod over 3v helps or hurts.

To get fsb up with crystal, you have to use nvidia system utility. You set crystal, then set nvidia syt. utility fsb back up to where you want it and then press the checkmark and it sticks till reboot. Use the 10/30/03 verison of crystal.

have you tried the 1004.001 bios at all. Was it any different tha 1003.006 for you?