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thetruememphis
10-30-2003, 05:02 PM
is this really nessicary? i personally never done this when installing a waterblock. but my watercooling exp. is rather limited (radeon 9700 pro, radeon 9800xt) so what do you say. should the shim go or stay?

And what are the benifits and nonbenifits.
sandman
10-30-2003, 05:06 PM
iirc, the 9800's shim is slightl below the core, so you shouldn't need it.
masta_gettotech
10-30-2003, 07:10 PM
been wondering about those shims my self, i guess if the core is slightly higher then the shim then there is no need to remove it.
thetruememphis
10-30-2003, 07:55 PM
imo it's actually a good design (if the core does infact sit higher than the shim. Keeps the pressure off the corners of the core so no cracking the damn corners off.!!! WOOT TO ATI!!!!!!!!!
Jabo
10-31-2003, 02:00 AM
Risk involved in removing it and no gain whatsoever in doing so make your choice quite obvious ;)
Belgian_Dude
10-31-2003, 02:20 AM
Is it really below the core??? That would be SOOOO good, then I don't even have to buy a new block :D
SupaMan
10-31-2003, 04:24 AM
which waterblock are you using? I think some have been designed to fit INSIDE the shim...so you dont have to bother with removing it.
Dajo
10-31-2003, 05:39 AM
the MCW50 fits inside the shim
Oc2theSkY
10-31-2003, 05:40 AM
I removed mine cuz I didn't get good contact. Now I can oc my core alot more, but mine is an older 9500np.
Jabo
10-31-2003, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Oc2theSkY
I removed mine cuz I didn't get good contact. Now I can oc my core alot more, but mine is an older 9500np.

Got the same card man! A real beauty btw!
Mine goes all the way to 430Mhz core on Swiftech MCW50-T.
Could you give some more details on your shim removal action?
Cheers!
Oc2theSkY
10-31-2003, 07:59 AM
I just used a knife like the pic above. Made me really nervous though. Had to try a few times to get a corner to start. Once I got one corner going it came off with just slow gentle prying.
Jabo
10-31-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Oc2theSkY
I just used a knife like the pic above. Made me really nervous though. Had to try a few times to get a corner to start. Once I got one corner going it came off with just slow gentle prying.
Good 'ol brute force, eh? ;) :)

What scores were you getting befor and after?

What do ya cool it with
Oc2theSkY
10-31-2003, 08:59 AM
before I could only get my core up to 310. Now I can max the slider in rage 3d. I use the zalman plat edition cooler with a sf2 blowing down the legth and a standard 80mm blowing at the face. So far I have gotten upto 17400 in 3d01. I don't get a lot of time to fiddle with my system tweaking. That 17400 is oced but not tweaked for performance really.