Cartridge-type DVD-RAM drive?

[p2501]

The thread name says it all, does anyone know about a cartridge-type DVD-RAM drive, preferably SATA based? I just can't find any SATA drives. :shrug:

[JayG30]

You mean slot loaded.....? I'm not familiar with the term cartridge in reference to DVD drivers.

[lowfat]

You mean slot loaded.....? I'm not familiar with the term cartridge in reference to DVD drivers.

Maybe he means like those drives in the 90s were you put the optical disc inside a removeable cartridge then put the cartridge in the drive.

like these
http://www.oldsoftware.com/softimg7/caddies.jpg

[JayG30]

I completely missed this tech. What a crazy idea. :)

[AgentGOD]

Here's a better pic:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/DVD-RAM_FUJIFILM_Disc-removalble_Without_cartridge-locking-pin.jpg/540px-DVD-RAM_FUJIFILM_Disc-removalble_Without_cartridge-locking-pin.jpg

It's sooooooooooooo old, you probably won't be able to find a SATA drive that allows inserting the cartridge directly. You can try taking out the disc out of the cartridge and just pick up a cheap SATA DVD+RW drive.

[p2501]

It's sooooooooooooo old, you probably won't be able to find a SATA drive that allows inserting the cartridge directly. You can try taking out the disc out of the cartridge and just pick up a cheap SATA DVD+RW drive.

Yeah, the only drive I found is made by Panasonic, it costs 90€ and is only available for IDE, while I could get a new SATA one with RAM support for like 30-40. Problem is, I like the idea of having a caddy/cartridge. :)

[RAW-Raptor22]

Those were cool. I remember when I was reeeeaaallly young they had a Mac with a drive like that at my school. I thought it was the weirdest thing. Thanks for reminding me. :)

[Darxide]

Do you need to have a cartridge capable drive?
I'm assuming you have lot of old Type I disks that can't be removed??
Most newer RAM disks are type II, (like in that previous picture) and can be removd from the cartridge.

[p2501]

I just want to have a cartridge capable drive, you know it's nice to have this extra protection. I don't know if it actually makes sense but I imagine that keeping the disc from actually being touched or scratched or whatever can only be good, right?

[tiro_uspsss]

I just want to have a cartridge capable drive, you know it's nice to have this extra protection. I don't know if it actually makes sense but I imagine that keeping the disc from actually being touched or scratched or whatever can only be good, right?

interesting way of thinking - I like it :up:

why dont u just get a IDE-2-SATA converter? :shrug:

[p2501]

why dont u just get a IDE-2-SATA converter? :shrug:

Hehe, why didn't I think of that? :hitself:

[tiro_uspsss]

Hehe, why didn't I think of that? :hitself:

:D:D:D :up:

btw - gotta link for the cartridge DVD drive u got?

[p2501]

:D:D:D :up:

btw - gotta link for the cartridge DVD drive u got?

Sure thing:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/computer/storage/optical/models/SW9576C.asp

Supports 5x writing, more you don't need because speeds upward of that will produce incompatibilities between drives. At least that's what I've read. :shrug:

[tiro_uspsss]

Sure thing:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/computer/storage/optical/models/SW9576C.asp

Supports 5x writing, more you don't need because speeds upward of that will produce incompatibilities between drives. At least that's what I've read. :shrug:

do u buy the cartridge seperate from the disc?

[p2501]

do u buy the cartridge seperate from the disc?

You could do that, there are cartridges you can buy seperately. I'd buy them in Cartridges directly though:

http://www.nextag.com/dvd-ram-type-4-cartridge/search-html

[tiro_uspsss]

You could do that, there are cartridges you can buy seperately. I'd buy them in Cartridges directly though:

http://www.nextag.com/dvd-ram-type-4-cartridge/search-html

sweet! thanks! :toast:

[p2501]

Yup, and sweet it is. A backup medium that somewhat rivals MO, with the advantage that it's still available. And not as expensive as better tapedrives. :)

And btw, thank you for pointing out that obvious solution. Typical case of "not seeing the wood for the trees". Also typical of me. :p:

[tiro_uspsss]

Yup, and sweet it is. A backup medium that somewhat rivals MO, with the advantage that it's still available. And not as expensive as better tapedrives. :)

And btw, thank you for pointing out that obvious solution. Typical case of "not seeing the wood for the trees". Also typical of me. :p:

hehe - no probs, any time! :up: :toast:

[Darxide]

They are quite usefull for backups, but I only use them now for my standalone Panasonic DVD recorder (It takes the cartridge). I like how you can delete a track from anywhere on the disc and reclaim the space. And you can edit tracks too. Can't do that with DVD-R or R/W.

And you can pick up the discs pretty cheap theese days...
Got this lot of eBay...

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/Darxide_x64/100_0712.jpg

[p2501]

Thank you for that ebay media tip, I just ordered the Drive and 5 Panasonic 3x 9.4gb discs for starters. :)
Since Vista should be able to UDF format them I don't even need stupid Nero.

Edit: MO is pretty much dead now, isn't it?

[tiro_uspsss]

is there a BD cartridge drive?

:D

[p2501]

is there a BD cartridge drive?

:D

I don't think so. BD solely relies on their 'hardcoating' to protect the disc. Dunno who's stupid idea that was. 25 gigs of backups on a disc, one scratch at the right place -> backups gone. :shakes:

Btw, if you are willing to shell out up to 300€ for a BD burner, you can also buy a tape drive for 600 that hold 160GB (compressed up to 320GB) per tape and is much more secure IMO.

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_deDE291DE303&q=Quantum+DLT+V4+sata&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

[tiro_uspsss]

I don't think so. BD solely relies on their 'hardcoating' to protect the disc. Dunno who's stupid idea that was. 25 gigs of backups on a disc, one scratch at the right place -> backups gone. :shakes:

Btw, if you are willing to shell out up to 300€ for a BD burner, you can also buy a tape drive for 600 that hold 160GB (compressed up to 320GB) per tape and is much more secure IMO.

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_deDE291DE303&q=Quantum+DLT+V4+sata&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

:mad:
that would have been sweet to have: BD cartridge - perfect for back-up like u mentioned.. :(

[josh1980]

Really, if you look at the numbers, BD backups are extremely expensive.


BD = $0.20/GB($5 for 25GB disk)
1.5TB = $0.087/GB($130 for 1.5TB drive)

If you exclude the BD burn drive and look at the cost for 25GB BD disks versus a 1.5TB drive, the 1.5TB drive is significantly cheaper. Granted, the failure of 1 BD disk means 25GB gone, and the failure of a 1.5TB drive mean 1.5TB gone. BUT, even at $5 a disk you can buy 2x1.5TB drives for less on Newegg. So that means you can not only back up to a 1.5TB drive, you could have a back up the back up too! Add to that fact that a hard drive is rewritable.

Remember, this is excluding the cost of the BD burner. The cheapest on newegg as of right now is 199.99. I'll stick with having a few 1.5TB external drives over BD disks, thanks. In fact, I'm doing that right now. Getting ready to buy a highpoint 4320 card with 24 drive case :P.

[renzokuken]

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Holy crap! I can buy one locally for AU$245 and I consider that expensive for a BD burner. 300 Euro is either rediculously overpriced or for once us Aussies are getting a bargain!