Auzentech Forte 7.1 thread

[safan80]

here's a pic of the card next to the PCI 1st gen x-fi I have.

the audio is a lot clearer compared to the old pci card. I have not used the head phone port yet. this thread is for those the own the card.

if you want to buy the card you can get it at Auzentech's store (http://www.nexternal.com/auzentech/Product71) for $150 (price as of 1/23/09)

the card's web site is here (http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_forte.php).


Also bought the card.
When you buy at Auzentech website, you can still use the copoun code: 10OFF


specs


Board


* Length: 176.900 mm (6.964 inches)
* Height: 56.155 mm (2.211 inches)

Interface Core

Audio Processor


* Creative 20K2 PCI Express audio processor
* X-RAM 64M bytes of DDR-SDRAM for audio processing

PC Interface


* PCI Express 1.1 Compliant Interface

Supported audio
resolution and
sampling rate


* 16/24-bit / up to 192kHz (Stereo playback)
* 16/24-bit / up to 96.0khz (Multi channel playback)
* 16/24-bit / up to 96kHz (Recording)

API Supports


* WDM, ASIO2.0
* EAX® 5.0, Direct Sound®, Direct Sound 3D®, OpenAL

Supported Operating Systems


* Microsoft® Windows Vista™
* Microsoft® Windows XP™

Analog Audio

Level


* 3.0Vrms, +12.0dBu max, deviatio+/- 0.1dB

Dynamic Range


* 109.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Analog outputs
* 98.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Analog inputs

Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise


* 115.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Stereo analog outputs
* 109.0 dB A-weighted (1kHz @ -60dBFS, 24-bit/48kHz) for Multi channel analog outputs

Frequency Response


* 10Hz to 22kHz, +/- 0.02 dB @ 48kHz
* 10Hz to 42kHz, +/- 0.02 dB @ 96kHz
* 10Hz to 94kHz, +/- 3dB @ 192kHz, Stereo

Impedance


* Headphone load impedance 16Ω ~ 600Ω
* Line output impedance 330Ω
* Line/Aux input impedance 10KΩ

Microphone


* Support Stereo and Balanced Mode





Connectivity

Analog Multi I/O Cable (D-SUB)


* 4 x 1/8" Stereo mini phone jack for Line outputs
* 1 x 1/8" TRS mini phone jack for MIC input
* 1 x 1/8" Stereo mini phone jack for Line input

Headphone


* 1 x 1/8" Stereo mini Phone jack for Headphone output

Front Audio


* 1 x 10-pin(5x2) Front audio header with Intel® HD Audio Compatible

Digital I/O


* 1 x RCA/TOSLINK Combo jack for S/PDIF transmission
* 1 x 2-piS/PDIF input connector

Extension


* Creative proprietary AND_EXT, DID_EXE connector for X-Fi I/O driver

[safan80]

Auzentech has already posted new drivers on their web site. I'm currently using the drivers off the cd with no issues ATM.

http://www.auzensupport.com/site/download/updates.php#xfiforte



01.21.2009 - New X-Fi™ Forte Driver

Changes in this Driver

* Corrects "Bluescreen Stop Error" when changing modes, a problem seen with certain configurations using the driver included on the CD.

Notes:

* You do not need to install the driver from the CD before installing the RC3 driver.
* DDL screen is in English only.
* End-User License Agreement is in English only.






here's a pic of the installed driver off the cd

[safan80]

well I started to have problem with my mp3s right after I posted the last post. lol here's a screenshot of the "new" web drivers. I replayed the problem mp3s and there's no static now.

don't use the cd drivers.

7.1 sound works so much much better with this card than on my old pci X-fi

[safan80]

interesting thing with those web drivers all my speakers stopped working except for the front two channels. I went back to the cd drivers.

oh there's a new speakers dialog section which requires you to use sounds sound to setup the speakers... also there's an optimize speaker output for headphone check box.

[cardnut99668]

I was thinking about picking one of these up. I'll be keeping an eye on what you have to say about the card.

[Donnie27]

Optimized for Headphone is part of the Prelude's package as well. It's an Auzen setting that's different than Creative's. For some reason Auzent removed the HP Icon so this setting makes up for it. Thanks for the review.

[safan80]

it's not really a review... lol I have yet to play any games... I will watch some videos later with the speakers and headphones.

[safan80]

the auto headphone thing doesn't work with the headphone port on the back... I guess this is for the bay only.... I want a bay for my case but there's no where I can get get one. CL's store doesn't have one (http://us.creative.com/shop/shopcategory.asp?category=209) yet they list it on the web site (http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=16&product=18288)


Some of the products or bundled products featured here may not be available in your region or country

I see what their doing... trying to sell more PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series card bundles.

[Richard Dower]

Here is my question, the specs say headphone amplifier....what does that mean?, i have the Auzen Prelude and i connect my headphones direct into the front speaker/headphone socket....but the volume output is crap!!
It's much worse then the Creative X-Fi, i have to turn up all my Windows volume settings to get any decent volume....so is the Forte for me and designed for better headphone volume output?

[Helmore]

There's a dedicated Headphone jack at the back of the card, which can support higher impedance headphones and I think that's what they mean with 'headphone amplifier'. That's at the back of the card though, I'm not sure if the front outputs support higher impedance headphones as well.
It would be nice to know though, if the volume of the headphone jack at the back can be adjusted separately from the rest of the outputs.

[safan80]

Here is my question, the specs say headphone amplifier....what does that mean?, i have the Auzen Prelude and i connect my headphones direct into the front speaker/headphone socket....but the volume output is crap!!
It's much worse then the Creative X-Fi, i have to turn up all my Windows volume settings to get any decent volume....so is the Forte for me and designed for better headphone volume output?

I would say that it is I almost killed my hears using the headphone jack at the back at first. although I'm using a set of heaphone that has an adjustable volume setting on them.

games work great and so to videos.

One thing that the Forte has the the creative pci-e X-fi cards don't is the "What U hear" option. I asked Gar if he had it on his X-Fi Titanium and he said he didn't.

I ended up going back to the web drivers again do to my machine BSODing at boot up today.

[Source]

Also bought the card.
When you buy at Auzentech website, you can still use the coupon code: 10OFF

[Donnie27]

the auto headphone thing doesn't work with the headphone port on the back... I guess this is for the bay only.... I want a bay for my case but there's no where I can get get one. CL's store doesn't have one (http://us.creative.com/shop/shopcategory.asp?category=209) yet they list it on the web site (http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=16&product=18288)

I see what their doing... trying to sell more PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series card bundles.

Sure but you can get the I/O drive from EBay!

X-Fi I/O Drive (http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Labs-X-Fi-I-O-Audio-Drive-Hub-Kit-with-Remote_W0QQitemZ110339918495QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC _Sound_Cards?hash=item110339918495&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

I'm still hesitant to say it's compat though.

The older X-Fi use a Flexi Jack on the back of the card shared with it Digital Out. When Headphones are used it Mutes the speakers. But these same cards have to be Jerry-rigged for front of the case I/O. The last PCI Xtreme Gamer remedied this problem. It has front case I/O support and the Headphones mute when setup to.

[safan80]

Sure but you can get the I/O drive from EBay!

X-Fi I/O Drive (http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Labs-X-Fi-I-O-Audio-Drive-Hub-Kit-with-Remote_W0QQitemZ110339918495QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC _Sound_Cards?hash=item110339918495&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

I'm still hesitant to say it's compat though.

The older X-Fi use a Flexi Jack on the back of the card shared with it Digital Out. When Headphones are used it Mutes the speakers. But these same cards have to be Jerry-rigged for front of the case I/O. The last PCI Xtreme Gamer remedied this problem. It has front case I/O support and the Headphones mute when setup to.

that's the old bay I have one of those from my pci X-fi FPS (http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=208&subCatName=X-Fi&prodID=14000&prodName=X-Fi+Fatal1ty) and no they will not work. I need this one (http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=16&product=18288).

[mclearn]

I also have this card - love it so far, but a few issues in Vista x64:

1 - When using Dolby Digital Live with an optical output, the sound frequently cuts out altogether when listening to MP3s or watching vids. If I uncheck and recheck DDL the sound comes back, although it is very choppy. Also, the CMSS-3D upmix doesn't seem to work when using DDL.

2 - I can't seem to find where to turn on DTS Connect. I think on the Prelude it was in the same section as DDL, but I don't see it.

Other than that I am very impressed. The sound is wayyy better than my old Audigy 2ZS and M-Audio Revo 7.1. I was using the Revo as a dedicated headphone card, and the Forte just blows it away. The volume is amazing, and much much punchier. I think this is due to the headphone pre-amp. I am using the Intel HD Audio front panel connector on my Antec P183, and the software automatically detects headphones and enables headphone enhancements. There is a bit of noise through the headphones, which I think is interference from the front panel cable length.

[safan80]

yeah Ithink the DDL is a creative driver issue... I've read compliants about it here: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board?board.id=soundblaster

[cardnut99668]

So it sounds like a great card, but there are just a few driver bugs here and there. Is it worthwhile to upgrade the op-amp?

[safan80]

So it sounds like a great card, but there are just a few driver bugs here and there. Is it worthwhile to upgrade the op-amp?

hard to say... the clarity of this card is so much over my old x-fi and I don't need to upgrade it. there are options though

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=auzentech&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=180675685&Count2=97816109

[Zorlac]

In "Game Mode", does the "Audio Control Panel" have a "Digital Output" section on the "SPDIF I/O" tab with a "Play Stereo Mix using Digital Output" check box?

This is the only thing that keeps me from going back to Auzentech X-Fi cards.

I need this setting in order to have hardware accelerated OpenAL+EAX passing through the SPDIF out (mixed down to 2 channel stereo) for my external 2 channel DAC. The Prelude did not support this, so I had to buy a Titanium.

[safan80]

In "Game Mode", does the "Audio Control Panel" have a "Digital Output" section on the "SPDIF I/O" tab with a "Play Stereo Mix using Digital Output" check box?

This is the only thing that keeps me from going back to Auzentech X-Fi cards.



yes it does...

[Donnie27]

that's the old bay I have one of those from my pci X-fi FPS (http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=208&subCatName=X-Fi&prodID=14000&prodName=X-Fi+Fatal1ty) and no they will not work. I need this one (http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=16&product=18288).

Cool, I like the old one better, more useful! I'd still be very surprised if it is compatible.

[REBEL900]

:)I just orderd the card to drive my Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones.

I game mostly FPS and need to hear everything.

I am building a new gaming rig (icore7)

[safan80]

Cool, I like the old one better, more useful! I'd still be very surprised if it is compatible.

the connections are not even remotely the same

[Richard Dower]

Is the OpAmp used in the Auzen Prelude the same as used in the Forte?...because one could swap out the Prelude OpAmp for that in the Forte if one were sneaky enough :-)

[mclearn]

I just installed beta 7000 of Windows 7 and I'm glad to report that the Forte drivers available on the web work perfectly - no pops or crackles and all 5.1 speakers are working. Haven't tried installing the application suite yet though.

[safan80]

I just installed beta 7000 of Windows 7 and I'm glad to report that the Forte drivers available on the web work perfectly - no pops or crackles and all 5.1 speakers are working. Haven't tried installing the application suite yet though.

I haven't installed the card under windows 7 yet, but that's good that it works.

[Donnie27]

the connections are not even remotely the same

I just I like the older one better ace. I'm talking about the new one not being compatible and if it were, I'd be surprised.:up:

[safan80]

I just I like the older one better ace. I'm talking about the new one not being compatible and if it were, I'd be surprised.:up:

lol ok... I do agree with you that the older one is better.. sorry I got a lot on my mind.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I've got the card on its way to me now :) I can't wait to try it out seeing as I have been on onboard all this time

[>HyperlogiK<]

No 7.1 analog outputs is a downside. But the biggie is whether the sound quality on a par with the Prelude?

[mclearn]

No 7.1 analog outputs is a downside. But the biggie is whether the sound quality on a par with the Prelude?

It actually does have analog 7.1 output - the connectors go through a dongle to a D-Sub.

I would venture to guess that the sound quality is identical to the Prelude.

[safan80]

No 7.1 analog outputs is a downside. But the biggie is whether the sound quality on a par with the Prelude?

it has 7.1 output. my gigaworks S750 are 7.1 and they work fine after getting some cables to properly suppose 7.1... because the cable the speakers came with the rear and the side channels were merged into one.

there's more imahes of the card and everything it comes with if you look at the first post in this thread and follow the link to the mfg web site.

[Boogerlad]

what is the opamp model?

[ROBSCIX]

what is the opamp model?
The Forte' Uses the LM4562NA for the front channel opamp, which you can replace. The sound quality on the Forte' is very good based on what I have heard.

[Boogerlad]

so lm4562na for all of them too right?

[ROBSCIX]

No, I just had a look at the card and it has LM4562NA for the front channels and 4580's for the remaining channels. The 4580's would be considered a generic audio opamp by some.

[Donnie27]

No, I just had a look at the card and it has LM4562NA for the front channels and 4580's for the remaining channels. The 4580's would be considered a generic audio opamp by some.

Finally got around to trying the New ones. I changed from the stock ones to the OPA2134A-ND. Man should have done that a long time ago:up: I like it an it an even broken in yet.

I have another one meant for an extra Xtreme Gamer I have just waiting to be modded! My Bud chickened out and another guy wanted too much.:(

[ROBSCIX]

Yes, the 2134's are a great audio opamps for the price, been around for ever and found it's way into many audio designs over the years. If you want the card modded check on Head-fi, in that X-fi Hotrodding thread. There are lots of guys on there that will do it for you.

[Donnie27]

Yes, the 2134's are a great audio opamps for the price, been around for ever and found it's way into many audio designs over the years. If you want the card modded check on Head-fi, in that X-fi Hotrodding thread. There are lots of guys on there that will do it for you.

Been kind of busy lately but will get to it sooner or later, thanks!

[neo mike]

Im looking for a good soundcard, how does this card stack up agains the new asus sound card ? is this a top notch sound card ?

[Donnie27]

Im looking for a good soundcard, how does this card stack up agains the new asus sound card ? is this a top notch sound card ?

I'm going to go with X-fi in either the Prelude or the Forte over Asus any day.

[cardnut99668]

Finally got around to trying the New ones. I changed from the stock ones to the OPA2134A-ND. Man should have done that a long time ago:up: I like it an it an even broken in yet.

I have another one meant for an extra Xtreme Gamer I have just waiting to be modded! My Bud chickened out and another guy wanted too much.:(

Did you buy these through Auzentech or can you buy them elsewhere cheaper? I should have my card by the end of the week.

[ROBSCIX]

Did you buy these through Auzentech or can you buy them elsewhere cheaper? I should have my card by the end of the week.

Auzentech doesn't sell OPA2134's these opamps have been around forever and have ben used along time in audio designs you should be able to find them in almost any electronics supplier. The PRelude has these chips on all the channels but the front which is the LM4562NA.

[ROBSCIX]

For those wondering about the drive bays being compatible with this card. The old drive bays are not compatible with the Forte 7.1 or the upcoming Home Theater HD 7.1.
The new drive bay from Creative is fully compatible with the Auzentech Forte 7.1 using the DID_EXT connector on the card for connection to the drive bay.
The upcoming Auzentech HomeTheater HD 7.1 card can also connect up to the new drive bays. You never know, maybe Auzentech will come up with their own custom drive bay in the future.

[Donnie27]

Did you buy these through Auzentech or can you buy them elsewhere cheaper? I should have my card by the end of the week.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=OPA2134PA-ND

I listened to new and old ones, then settled on these. It's not like the old ones sucked, I just wanted a change. These are better for my tastes. No two sets of ears are the same.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I've just been looking at my card that just arrived via fedex today straight from auzentech :) :up:

does the new opamp really make a massive difference in quality of the sound? I havent used the card yet but it seems like if a $2.43 chip could make a huge difference then they would have used it on the card in the first place...

[azza21]

I've got a prelude, would it be worth upgrading to this new card or is there not a lot of difference?

[Helmore]

I've got a prelude, would it be worth upgrading to this new card or is there not a lot of difference?

Pretty much the only difference is the PCIe connection and the low profile. Going from a Prelude to a Forte would be more of a 'sidegrade' so to speak.

[ROBSCIX]

I've just been looking at my card that just arrived via fedex today straight from auzentech :) :up:

does the new opamp really make a massive difference in quality of the sound? I havent used the card yet but it seems like if a $2.43 chip could make a huge difference then they would have used it on the card in the first place...

What new opamp are you talking about, which one are you considering using?

[ROBSCIX]

I've got a prelude, would it be worth upgrading to this new card or is there not a lot of difference?

No, the Forte 7.1 is aimed at a different market segment and not meant as a upgrade for Prelude users.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

What new opamp are you talking about, which one are you considering using?

this one linked earlier, http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...e=OPA2134PA-ND

I guess I don't quite understand the function of it, I will do some research for myself tho, no need for an explanation ;) :up:

[ROBSCIX]

You want to put this in a Prelude? -replace the LM4562? The OPA2134's are a older opamp and they do no have the specifications or audio quality of the LM4562NA. That being said some subjectivley may like the laidback sound it has but if you like nice clear sound the LM4562 is the one to have. The Prelude has OPA2134's on the other channel and the best opamp on the front channels. Opamps get very subjective..... so specs can help.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

You want to put this in a Prelude? -replace the LM4562? The OPA2134's are a older opamp and they do no have the specifications or audio quality of the LM4562NA. That being said some subjectivley may like the laidback sound it has but if you like nice clear sound the LM4562 is the one to have. The Prelude has OPA2134's on the other channel and the best opamp on the front channels. Opamps get very subjective..... so specs can help.

OK I guess I dont want to change (I have the forte BTW)

[ROBSCIX]

I wouldn't bother. The OPA2134's sound ok but I still prefer the LM4562, better clarity and more dynamics. You can try it out if your curious, that is why it is great to have opamp sockets. You may like to more veiled laidback sound of the Burr browns.

[Donnie27]

OK I guess I dont want to change (I have the forte BTW)

No, you don't want to change the ones on the Forte. Again, that's why I said each person's hearing is different and no way in hell MY EARS like the so called inferior OP Prelude's stock Op Amps better=P Why pick these? They are laid back, smoother, not as Hot and Brassy plus I have large speakers in a near field listening environment. Sure some one with Logitech Computer speakers might like something different.:up:


I listened to new and old ones, then settled on these. It's not like the old ones sucked, I just wanted a change.

Note, my DT 770 Pro 80's like this as well. I'm not through looking will try others. I like warm (not Hot) understated (not over emphasized) Op-Amps for the reasons mentioned above.

[ROBSCIX]

As I said, depends on your taste. Donnie27 you had said you were interested in trying these out awhile back based on sound description, I think the OPA2227's might also be one you would appreciate; same type of sound as the 2134 but a more defined and articulate bass region. Many find the OPA2134 to be laid back, glossy high end and almost veiled on some gear. I guess it depends on what type of gear your connecting to.
I have a entire box of opamps, and know the sound of each of them on my personal setup and cans. The OPA2134's have been used for audio for a long,long time. Many will run to these when looking for a tried and true audio opamp. There are other good BB opamps also, just depends on what you after for sonic signature.. That is why opamps socket are good, although I prefer them on all channels.

[Donnie27]

As I said, depends on your taste. Donnie27 you had said you were interested in trying these out awhile back based on sound description, I htink the OPA2227's might also be one you would apprciate same type of sound as the 2134 but a more defined and articulate bass region. Many find the OPA2134 to be laid back, glossy high end and almost veiled on some gear. I guess it depends on what type of gear your connecting to. I have a entire box of opamps, and know the sound of each of them. The OPA2134's have been used for audio for a long,long time. Many will run to these when looking for a tried and true audio opamp. There are other good BB opamps also, just depends on what you after for sonic signature.. That is why opamps socket are good, although I prefer them on all channels.

Yup, looking at the OPA2227's next:up: You don't know how they sound on my gear, that's why I mentioned something as different as Logitech computer speakers. I'm NOT knocking anything here. All 2134's aren't created Equal. Just as those on the Audigies and the X-Fi looks the same at first glance, then you see that big K on the lesser quaility ones on the Audigy (Except the highend models). Easily why the X-Fi sounds better than the Audigy.

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr245/Donnie27_photos/BlackBoxNewmids.jpg
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr245/Donnie27_photos/PICT3248.jpg

I liked the highs on the 2134 better and the Bass on mine is no Problem since between the Polk Woofer and Pioneer Sub gets good bass from Mid down to lows. The two tend to extend the bass range. If its there, they find it. I use the Pre Amp for the H/K 247 straight to the Old School H/K 730 for the mains. Hell, they don't need an extra Sub but I just use one for the hell of it. The biggest thing I miss that the LM did was Sound Stage. though I still have a good I miss those Star Trekk like Halo-Deck sound in phantom spots.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

thanks for the posts guys, I understand the opamps much better now, my fist reaction to my Forte is WOW I have never used a dedicated sound card before and boy was I missing out!!! this thing sounds incredible! it makes me realize why people buy sound cards and also why I am never going to enjoy listening to my ipod again :p:

I cant wait to get my pair of dt770 80's to use on this amplified headphone jack. the bose AE's I am using now are blown away by the power, it hurts my ears to listen to music at full volume and my windows global is set @ 20% :rofl:

[16floz470ml]

I recently got the Forte and I am very pleased with the analog. It sounds great but I am having a problem with the digital out. It will play for a few minutes and then it will just cut out. It I check/uncheck ddl or dts the sound will come back for a few minutes and then the same thing over and over. I have been in touch with tech support and they said that the new driver RC3 would fix my issues. It does not.

Is anybody else having this problem? This is at least the fourth driver they have put out and the sound card just got released.

[ROBSCIX]

Yup, looking at the OPA2227's next:up: You don't know how they sound on my gear, that's why I mentioned something as different as Logitech computer speakers. I'm NOT knocking anything here. All 2134's aren't created Equal. Just as those on the Audigies and the X-Fi looks the same at first glance, then you see that big K on the lesser quaility ones on the Audigy (Except the highend models). Easily why the X-Fi sounds better than the Audigy.

I liked the highs on the 2134 better and the Bass on mine is no Problem since between the Polk Woofer and Pioneer Sub gets good bass from Mid down to lows. The two tend to extend the bass range. If its there, they find it. I use the Pre Amp for the H/K 247 straight to the Old School H/K 730 for the mains. Hell, they don't need an extra Sub but I just use one for the hell of it. The biggest thing I miss that the LM did was Sound Stage. though I still have a good I miss those Star Trekk like Halo-Deck sound in phantom spots.

I don't know how they sound on your gear however, I know the sound signature they are known for as do many others that play with opamps similar to the way LM4562 are now to have a large sound stage, very detailed..good clarity..etc.
To note, CL X-fi or Audigies have no 2134's, they use much cheaper generic opamps....

As for your info about the big "K", usually codes on chips mean little in the way of sonic quality. They are usually environmental concerns or they denote package types. Don't assume a CL X-fi has some super DAC or opamp because the parts number varies by one letter. This usually indicates nothing of any sonic importance. They may denote a SOIC packages instead of a DIP and show the item has no lead or concerns of this nature:yepp: For instance a LM4562NA and a LM4562MA are exactly the same except for the packaging. You need a reference to indicate what the letters denote.

The 2134's while known for their common laid back "Burr Brown" sound some also don't like the bass calling it loose or tubby by some standards. This is just a trait of the opamp itself, not your gear. Which is why many still keep looking and some move to the 2227 which has that same laidback sound with the glossy highs but the bass is tighter and more defined. Again, this is not difference noted on various gear, they are sonic traits of the opamp.

The gear can change the sound to some extent or you can adjust for the various traits of the opamp but you are using them for better or worse because of these sonic traits they have. Don't think I am saying they are bad, I am actually using two 2134's on a card right now for testing purposes as I usually grab these when looking for a new audio opamp. I personally like their signature and keep a full set on hand for testing soundcards/DAC..etc
You may also want to look at the OPA2107's they are considerably more clear and detailed but they are quite expensive when compared to 2134's or others of this series.

[ROBSCIX]

thanks for the posts guys, I understand the opamps much better now, my fist reaction to my Forte is WOW I have never used a dedicated sound card before and boy was I missing out!!! this thing sounds incredible! it makes me realize why people buy sound cards and also why I am never going to enjoy listening to my ipod again :p:

I cant wait to get my pair of dt770 80's to use on this amplified headphone jack. the bose AE's I am using now are blown away by the power, it hurts my ears to listen to music at full volume and my windows global is set @ 20% :rofl:


Yes, I have been testing the forte' when I can and it has a great sound. Very refined and up front. Sounds very,very good.:yepp:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

can somebody tell me how to cut off the super low volume buzz I get because of interference from my graphics card when it is running at full power?

its at about -70 so all I need to do is find a way to cutoff noise below a certain volume...

[ROBSCIX]

Are you using the latest drivers? also make sure you have your recording inputs muted. If these are left "floating" they can act like a microphone and pick up interference from the Bus or any other device in the system.
are you using speakers or phones and what are you using for output the front panel connector or the rear of the PC?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Are you using the latest drivers? alos make sure you have your recording inputs muted. If these are left "floating" they can act like a microphone and pick up interference from the Bus or any other device in the system.

I will try the new drivers in a few hours when I get out of class. All my extraneous inputs were muted I believe, but I will check that too.

[ROBSCIX]

OK, let me know how it goes, I think this may fix your issues...

[Donnie27]

I don't know how they sound on your gear however, I know the sound signature they are known for as do many others that play with opamps similar to the way LM4562 are now to have a large sound stage, very detailed..good clarity..etc.
To note, CL X-fi or Audigies have no 2134's, they use much cheaper generic opamps....

As for your info about the big "K", usually codes on chips mean little in the way of sonic quality. They are usually environmental concerns or they denote package types. Don't assume a CL X-fi has some super DAC or opamp because the parts number varies by one letter. This usually indicates nothing of any sonic importance. They may denote a SOIC packages instead of a DIP and show the item has no lead or concerns of this nature:yepp: For instance a LM4562NA and a LM4562MA are exactly the same except for the packaging. You need a reference to indicate what the letters denote.

The 2134's while known for their common laid back "Burr Brown" sound some also don't like the bass calling it loose or tubby by some standards. This is just a trait of the opamp itself, not your gear. Which is why many still keep looking and some move to the 2227 which has that same laidback sound with the glossy highs but the bass is tighter and more defined. Again, this is not difference noted on various gear, they are sonic traits of the opamp.

The gear can change the sound to some extent or you can adjust for the various traits of the opamp but you are using them for better or worse because of these sonic traits they have. Don't think I am saying they are bad, I am actually using two 2134's on a card right now for testing purposes as I usually grab these when looking for a new audio opamp. I personally like their signature and keep a full set on hand for testing soundcards/DAC..etc
You may also want to look at the OPA2107's they are considerably more clear and detailed but they are quite expensive when compared to 2134's or others of this series.

Dewd, I didn't say Audigies and X-Fi's had 2134, I said the ones they used (CS) aren't the same and are differentiated by the K in the model number. K is not as good as the none K. Only some one who's not heard the two side by side would think they're similar. Sure I can't wait to get the 2227's:up:

As I said I needed something more subdued and the LM4562 were often too harsh. Not clear unless the volume was kept low, way low. Again, they often distorted as well. I'm NOT about to say the 2134 are better overall when clearly they were/are NOT! What I'm saying is that in my system the 2134,s are a better fit. I'm not through trying others. I will try and test more, even others you've pointed out! Yet, right now, I like the overall effect of these Op amps:up: So does 3 out of 4 others who heard it, one was indifferent.

Yes, ROB the gear does matter. Sound card is not connect to a Tin can Amp. The beastly amp not only amplifies but adds its own touch to the sound. NO, Rob I'm not using some sterilized unrealistic Audiophile stuff here. I've heard Musicians call it BS! I once heard Issac Hayes trashing out an Audiophile in Memphis and they guy didn't know who in the hell Issac was:rofl: I (and 5 others in this high end Audio Shop) laughed real hard because the guy was listening to "Walk On By" by Issac Hayes:ROTF: Think should know how his own ^#% should sound?

[ROBSCIX]

Let's get back on topic shall we?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

hey, so I figured out how to make the buzzing less severe, Drviers sisn't fix it, but by using the front port on the dongle instead of using the amplified headphone jack I was able to make the buzzing very very faint. But still it is there and it is caused by the video card, when I get high FPS it is high pitched and extra annoying, whenI limit my FPS to 10 it is a moderate pace ticking sound. (this is in CS:S, I played COD4 but that game is louder in general and I didnt notice any buzzing). I configured ALchemy and it didn't change anything...

[ROBSCIX]

hey, so I figured out how to make the buzzing less severe, Drviers sisn't fix it, but by using the front port on the dongle instead of using the amplified headphone jack I was able to make the buzzing very very faint. But still it is there and it is caused by the video card, when I get high FPS it is high pitched and extra annoying, whenI limit my FPS to 10 it is a moderate pace ticking sound. (this is in CS:S, I played COD4 but that game is louder in general and I didnt notice any buzzing). I configured ALchemy and it didn't change anything...

I am guessing you muted the "floating" inputs right?
can you move the card to another PCI-E slot? This may help...

The DTS-C driver was released for the Forte also..
Personally I love this litle card, has a great sound, I have been playing with it using the OPA637.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

So you inputs are to blame for the interference, can you move the card to another PCI-E slot? This may help...

The DTS-C driver was released for the Forte also..
Personally I love this litle card, has a great sound to it.

the only other slot I have available is closer to the video card.... :\

[Jamesrt2004]

I get the same problem with X-fi and it anoyed mee lol so took it out !!! guessing get some emi-shielding will help :) x

[ROBSCIX]

the only other slot I have available is closer to the video card.... :\

Try it anyway. It may fix the trouble. I have not heard anything when testing the forte. You may try updated all your chipset driver also. May help.

[safan80]

hey, so I figured out how to make the buzzing less severe, Drviers sisn't fix it, but by using the front port on the dongle instead of using the amplified headphone jack I was able to make the buzzing very very faint. But still it is there and it is caused by the video card, when I get high FPS it is high pitched and extra annoying, whenI limit my FPS to 10 it is a moderate pace ticking sound. (this is in CS:S, I played COD4 but that game is louder in general and I didnt notice any buzzing). I configured ALchemy and it didn't change anything...

that's weirdI'm not getting that all at and my card is sitting right on top of the first video card.I'm using updated intel drivers and I'm using the Forte drivers off the cd. I haven't even had a chance to toy with any of the newer drivers.

[ROBSCIX]

When I use the Auzen Forte' 7.1 it is right next to my GFX card also.. The card is silent in my machine, there is no noise or interference.

[Donnie27]

When I use the Auzen Forte' 7.1 it is right next to my GFX card also.. The card is silent in my machine, there is no noise or interference.

Of course not, everything except Creative Products are good and always work great!:rolleyes:

Anyway,


SNiiPE_DoGG hey, so I figured out how to make the buzzing less severe, Drviers sisn't fix it, but by using the front port on the dongle instead of using the amplified headphone jack I was able to make the buzzing very very faint. But still it is there and it is caused by the video card, when I get high FPS it is high pitched and extra annoying, whenI limit my FPS to 10 it is a moderate pace ticking sound. (this is in CS:S, I played COD4 but that game is louder in general and I didnt notice any buzzing). I configured ALchemy and it didn't change anything...

Not muting mics and audio in can cause buzzing, it can also be caused noisy PSU's, USB devices and you can move the card/s all you like and it might* not go away.

Call Of Duty 4's sound is processed via OpenAL and Alchemy isn't needed. Alchemy is only for Direct 3D based Games. There aren't any new Games based on Direct3D.

[Gilhooley]

can somebody tell me how to cut off the super low volume buzz I get because of interference from my graphics card when it is running at full power?

I also got a high pitch noice when I ran some hard gpu tests like Furmark - it synced with the spinning doughnut :rolleyes: Anyway I think I updated the driver from RC1 to RC2 and it went away. But since you mentioned trying that, I might have touched the breakout cables when I looked around. It's possible they might function as an antenna :down:

[ROBSCIX]

For the guys that are picking up noise, check to make sure your Front panel Microphone is disabled, If not it can easily pick up bus signals and noise from other devices such as teh GFX card.

[koc]

my Auzentech Forte 7.1 + HD650 are on the way , i bought them from newegg :up:

i will go to the market today to find a good amplifier to make my head happy :D

[DeViTTo]

my Auzentech Forte 7.1 + HD650 are on the way , i bought them from newegg :up:

i will go to the market today to find a good amplifier to make my head happy :D

I have same combination but have just bought headline2 PCS and V-DAC. haven't heard the Amp and DAC together yet, but this sound card is very very good thats coming from a Creative Extreme Fatality Gamer.

Seems to drive HD650 nicely. :up:

[Source]

Hello,

I just got myself an Auzentech Forte but i have a question regarding the PCI-express slots.

This is what's on my motherboard:

PCI-e 16x: HD4870
PCI-e 1x: Empty
PCI-e 1x: Empty
PCI-e 16x: Auzentech Forte

I read this in the manual:
- When using two PCIE x16 slots, the PCIE x16 lanes will auto arrange from x16/ x0 to x8 x8.
And this on the site:

• Two PCI Express 16X slots with 1x16 and 1x4 operations (PCI Express Bus SPEC V1.0a compliant; supports CrossFire Technology) Am confused now.. :confused:

Does that also count for Sound cards, or only when Crossfireïng GPU's? ?
And is there a program that can read the transfer rate of the GPU?

In other words: does my GPU run on 16x and my soundcard on 4x (or 1x ?)
Or does my GPU run at 8x?

Since my motherboard has the Soutbridge on par with the PCI-e 1x slots, i can't put the Forte there since it's to long.

My new motherboard have the PCI-e 1x slot placed on a different place so then the problem is solved.
But in the meantime..

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

GPU-Z can tell you the speed of the bus :)

[Source]

Hmm, is that reading correct..
115 GB/sec
Or is that the memory bandwidth?


My motherboard manual says that PCI-E 16x (1.0) slots are rated at 4.0 GB/sec ? :|

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

there is a field called bus interface, that tells you what the card is running at.

[16floz470ml]

Hmm, is that reading correct..
115 GB/sec
Or is that the memory bandwidth?


My motherboard manual says that PCI-E 16x (1.0) slots are rated at 4.0 GB/sec ? :|

If you put a pcie 1x card in a pcie 16x slot I am sorry to say it will not run at pcie 16x. The Forte is pcie 1x not pcie 1.0. You can put it in any pcie slot you want. I for example have mine in the pcie 4x. It will only run at 1x no matter what slot you put it in.

Also AuzenTech released a new driver patch today. All of the issues that I was having are now fixed.

[koc]

I have same combination but have just bought headline2 PCS and V-DAC. haven't heard the Amp and DAC together yet, but this sound card is very very good thats coming from a Creative Extreme Fatality Gamer.

Seems to drive HD650 nicely. :up:

yes it will drive the HD650 nicely , but adding a good receiver or headphone amp will make amazing sound
I have my eye on Onkyo TX-SR876 receiver or Graham Slee Solo which is optimized specially for sennheiser headphones , but i don't deside yet which one to get :)

[koc]

Well i just ordered Graham Slee Solo

http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/graham-slee-solo-intro-headphone-amplifier-prodid-321.html

cant wait to use it :D

[DaddyD302]

I just bought this card and I hope it gets shipped later today. I always owned Creative's soundcard. Now with creative I've always used the drivers that came with the cd and then update it after that with their auto update. This is my first Auzentech card, and I'm wondering if it's the same thing or do I just go to their website and download the latest drivers?

[Donnie27]

I just bought this card and I hope it gets shipped later today. I always owned Creative's soundcard. Now with creative I've always used the drivers that came with the cd and then update it after that with their auto update. This is my first Auzentech card, and I'm wondering if it's the same thing or do I just go to their website and download the latest drivers?

I'm just glad the card has more of a common sense price at $139 instead of $169 or more.

[Helmore]

I also plan on buying this card in the not too distant future. I just got one question regarding a nice headphone that I plan to use along side it.
I've always had my eyes on a Audio-Technica ATH-AD900, they would have been a very nice purchase if I would have bought them last summer when the euro/dollar ratio was a lot better. It's just that they are at a total of about €230 shipped at the moment, which is making me doubt my decision to buy them for now. It does make me wonder what the Deyerdynamic DT990 (new or old) and DT880 (new or old) are like though. Especially since there is this DT990 pro (old version in other words) for sale over here with a price of about €170.
Anyone have any idea what they will be like for music playback and games/movies? Also how easy it will be to drive them directly from the Forte?

EDIT: Or maybe some suggestions for a different headphone that could be driven directly by the Forte? It has to be Open and around the ear. As for the kind of music I like, that would be a bit harder to describe. I like Red Hot Chili Peppers, Avril Lavigne (Innocence for example), Sum 41, to just name a few that come to mind. Maybe I should just start my own thread about this though.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the amplified headphone port is very powerful on this card, for an idea of equivalence the amp HF port at a volume of 21% is equivalent to 100% volume with my on-board sound card. (using Bose triport AE at the moment)

[REBEL900]

I also plan on buying this card in the not too distant future. I just got one question regarding a nice headphone that I plan to use along side it.
I've always had my eyes on a Audio-Technica ATH-AD900, they would have been a very nice purchase if I would have bought them last summer when the euro/dollar ratio was a lot better. It's just that they are at a total of about €230 shipped at the moment, which is making me doubt my decision to buy them for now. It does make me wonder what the Deyerdynamic DT990 (new or old) and DT880 (new or old) are like though. Especially since there is this DT990 pro (old version in other words) for sale over here with a price of about €170.
Anyone have any idea what they will be like for music playback and games/movies? Also how easy it will be to drive them directly from the Forte?

EDIT: Or maybe some suggestions for a different headphone that could be driven directly by the Forte? It has to be Open and around the ear. As for the kind of music I like, that would be a bit harder to describe. I like Red Hot Chili Peppers, Avril Lavigne (Innocence for example), Sum 41, to just name a few that come to mind. Maybe I should just start my own thread about this though.

Hey Helmore, i have this card and the Beyerdynamic DT880 (http://northern-america.beyerdynamic.com/en/music-performance/products/headphones.html?tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1%5BshowUid %5D%5BshowUID%5D=1851&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1%5BshowUid%5D%5BbackPID%5D =68&cHash=ae652aa639) and the card dives them pretty good, i do believe a headphone Amp would make them sound amazing.. Anyone know any headphone amps for the Beyers?

Thanks

[koc]

Hey Helmore, i have this card and the Beyerdynamic DT880 (http://northern-america.beyerdynamic.com/en/music-performance/products/headphones.html?tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1%5BshowUid %5D%5BshowUID%5D=1851&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1%5BshowUid%5D%5BbackPID%5D =68&cHash=ae652aa639) and the card dives them pretty good, i do believe a headphone Amp would make them sound amazing.. Anyone know any headphone amps for the Beyers?

Thanks

your headphone has 250 Ohms and with Auzentech will give you great sound
but adding Headphone Amp will make the sound simply amazing

I have no experience about headphones amp , but after reading some thread in (AVS Forum) i found out that the best headphone amp is Graham Slee Solo specially for my new sennheiser HD 650 head phone
http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/graham-slee-solo-intro-headphone-amplifier-prodid-321.html
check the web site for more headphones amp :)

[REBEL900]

your headphone has 250 Ohms and with Auzentech will give you great sound
but adding Headphone Amp will make the sound simply amazing

I have no experience about headphones amp , but after reading some thread in (AVS Forum) i found out that the best headphone amp is Graham Slee Solo specially for my new sennheiser HD 650 head phone
http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/graham-slee-solo-intro-headphone-amplifier-prodid-321.html
check the web site for more headphones amp :)

Hey thanks.. I won't derail the thread anymore and i'll post elsewhere on this subject. :)

[Negz]

I recently got this card and noticed that it runs really hot. Anyone else find this is the case?

[DaddyD302]

I recently got this card and noticed that it runs really hot. Anyone else find this is the case?

Has your temps gone up in your case? I didn't notice anything odd about it. My temps are pretty much the same.

[Smiddi]

I got myself a Auzen Forte a few days ago and the dam thing wont detect in windows (Vista).
Anyone else have this problem

(btw: mobo: GA-G33M-DS2R).

[Negz]

Has your temps gone up in your case? I didn't notice anything odd about it. My temps are pretty much the same.

It's not really higher case temps. It's the card itself which is getting hot.

[Donnie27]

It's not really higher case temps. It's the card itself which is getting hot.

Yes. the card produces heat. It is a processor similar to a a P4 3GHz and temps like a P3 (last steppings that only needed passive heat sinks).

The only one I heard had Dinky Computer speakers, man I wish this person had a real system.

[Jodiuh]

Is the heat from the X-Fi chip? You could always sink it.

How is the rear analog mic for you guys? Left 4 Dead voice com work ok?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Is the heat from the X-Fi chip? You could always sink it.

How is the rear analog mic for you guys? Left 4 Dead voice com work ok?

in steam it works fine but in l4d its a bit soft, but definitely working because when I yell at noobs they listen :rofl:

[Levish]

the amplified headphone port is very powerful on this card, for an idea of equivalence the amp HF port at a volume of 21% is equivalent to 100% volume with my on-board sound card. (using Bose triport AE at the moment)

+1 at full power its way too much for my Audio Technica A700's.

[defect9]

Even though the amped headphone out is a monster on this card, I still chose to output from the front line out to a dedicated headamp. something about adding tubes does something really magical

...and no, that magic isn't really something I can hear that's life-changing, but it certainly moves the volume control a lot closer. :rofl:

gods I love this soundcard. Dead sexy too. Love the fact that it works on any PCI-e slot.

[Lu(ky]

Hey guys I have the Prelude version and out of all my previous sound cards it is my favorite card. I was wondering how this one compares to the Prelude other then it being smaller. I was thinking of making a HTPC and using this card.

[defect9]

you probably won't hear a difference, honestly. I had a Terratec DMX6fire 24/96 before the Forte, and I have to admit, even though it was 6 years old (and dying), the difference between it and the forte was not night and day for listening (sidenote: the 6fire wasn't a weak card to begin with, and edged out the Audigys for everything except gaming when it was released). Now... for usability, all the features of the forte makes it a damn fine card that I was very happy to upgrade to, but I think the Prelude has most of, if not all of those features already.

maaaaybe if you spent way too much money on your stereo/home theater system you might hear it, or if you spent a lot of time doing critical listening and comparing, but... Technology is getting close to the diminishing returns point for sound quality improvements that people can actually hear. Biggest improvements are going to be in your headphones and speakers (or an upgrade from craptastic onboard to a dedicated card). Tubes can be made to sound near-solid state accurate, and solid state can be given tube characteristics. Mosfets are again a viable amplifier item (thank you, Nelson Pass).

[ILikeCosmosS]

as i was looking at the forte
my question is there a port where i can digital audio to my tv?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

as i was looking at the forte
my question is there a port where i can digital audio to my tv?

yes is has a Coaxial and optical jack, the optical is an adapter onto the coaxial which has the optical feed on the center of the circle coax jack :) its quite ingeneous

[ILikeCosmosS]

so i can upload my digital audio threw coaxial and get digital?

that is ingeneous

[defect9]

so i can upload my digital audio threw coaxial and get digital?

that is ingeneous

technically the coax (S/PDIF) and optical (I think TOSLink) are both digital. Its just which connector you have on the TV that you need, optical or S/PDIF.

so, yes. yes you can :)

[Donnie27]

technically the coax (S/PDIF) and optical (I think TOSLink) are both digital. Its just which connector you have on the TV that you need, optical or S/PDIF.

so, yes. yes you can :)

I had only heard this card with some Cheap Logitech speakers. I finally got took my DT-770 80's. Verdict? If I didn't have a prelude with new but broken in Opamps, I'd snap up the Forte real fast:up:

I think your earlier post was dead on as well. I still have the last two models of the SQ-2500 A3D's yes new features is what makes them feel old:(

I'm loving the Burr Browns Opamps and their Tube like (to me) sound.

[Godofwar424]

Hi

I recently bought this card and all I can say is WOW. After having an Creative X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty for around a year I thought I had the best Audio/Gaming solution but I was wrong. The bass is noticeably cleaner and much more of a clean thump instead of a boomy overpowering sort. My Z-5500 sub now sounds alot more clean and I actually prefer this type of sound. I used to prefer the BOOMY bass but now this is alot more enjoyable when listening to music. The high quality audio parts are obvious doing what they are meant to. PRODUCE GOOD AUDIO.

This soundcard is also great for games and unlike normal Creative cards the DDL DOESNT REQUIRE ACTIVATION!!!!!!!!

[Donnie27]

Hi

I recently bought this card and all I can say is WOW. After having an Creative X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty for around a year I thought I had the best Audio/Gaming solution but I was wrong. The bass is noticeably cleaner and much more of a clean thump instead of a boomy overpowering sort. My Z-5500 sub now sounds alot more clean and I actually prefer this type of sound. I used to prefer the BOOMY bass but now this is alot more enjoyable when listening to music. The high quality audio parts are obvious doing what they are meant to. PRODUCE GOOD AUDIO.

This soundcard is also great for games and unlike normal Creative cards the DDL DOESNT REQUIRE ACTIVATION!!!!!!!!

Yepp:yepp:

[Pedrovsk]

Hi

I recently bought this card and all I can say is WOW. After having an Creative X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty for around a year I thought I had the best Audio/Gaming solution but I was wrong. The bass is noticeably cleaner and much more of a clean thump instead of a boomy overpowering sort. My Z-5500 sub now sounds alot more clean and I actually prefer this type of sound. I used to prefer the BOOMY bass but now this is alot more enjoyable when listening to music. The high quality audio parts are obvious doing what they are meant to. PRODUCE GOOD AUDIO.

This soundcard is also great for games and unlike normal Creative cards the DDL DOESNT REQUIRE ACTIVATION!!!!!!!!

Hey I also have bought this card and planning on getting the Z-5500 set.

Are you using digital or analog input? From your other thread I take it you're on digital? And are you still on daniel_K's drivers or Auzentech's?

Thanks

[Negz]

Bah I'm regretting buying this card. The sound is good but

1) The card runs hot. This may or may not be a problem really, I don't know.

2) I'm getting interference when the video card is under load. I've tested it and when the system is under load but the GPU is not... no interference, but when the GPU is under load I get a buzzing/whine sound. I am using the headphone jack at the back of the card too. :(

Any idea's on how I can solve issue no. 2?

*EDIT* I forgot to add I've muted the Mic inputs.

[Soulburner]

This card doesn't have analog speaker outputs...or am I missing something here?

This is only for headphone users, otherwise you're just passing digital to a receiver/speakers?

Haven't been keeping up with this stuff, but looks like the Prelude stays for me.

[Helmore]

This card doesn't have analog speaker outputs...or am I missing something here?

This is only for headphone users, otherwise you're just passing digital to a receiver/speakers?

Haven't been keeping up with this stuff, but looks like the Prelude stays for me.

The analog connection for your speakers, microphone and line input is through the 15-pin D-sub connection. Just check the 'features' and 'images' tab for all the details over here. (http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_forte.php)

This card is in no way an upgrade for anyone whom has a Prelude, only if you desperately need one of the Forte's features that the Prelude doesn't have.

[Jodiuh]

I was under the impression they sounded the same. Is this not true?

[Soulburner]

The analog connection for your speakers, microphone and line input is through the 15-pin D-sub connection. Just check the 'features' and 'images' tab for all the details over here. (http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_forte.php)

This card is in no way an upgrade for anyone whom has a Prelude, only if you desperately need one of the Forte's features that the Prelude doesn't have.
I need to go back and read why someone would buy one vs the other when I have time. Haven't been keeping up with hardware.

That certainly answers the question though:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=93531&stc=1&d=1233013093

[16floz470ml]

I have both cards. They sound and work the same as far as I can tell. The only reason to choose one over the other is the interface.

[Godofwar424]

Hey I also have bought this card and planning on getting the Z-5500 set.

Are you using digital or analog input? From your other thread I take it you're on digital? And are you still on daniel_K's drivers or Auzentech's?

Thanks

Im using Auzentech. I dont think Daniel_K works with these cards. Dont need em anyways seeing as Auzentech drivers have Dolby Digital Live.

Yes I am using Digital Coax with DDL.

[Soulburner]

Hey I also have bought this card and planning on getting the Z-5500 set.

Are you using digital or analog input? From your other thread I take it you're on digital? And are you still on daniel_K's drivers or Auzentech's?

Thanks
Getting this card and connecting it to Z-5500's in digital mode is a tragedy. You'll find out why when you try...been there, done that. So sad to see the card's potential go to waste like that, you're not even using the card, just passing the audio right through it.

[Godofwar424]

Getting this card and connecting it to Z-5500's in digital mode is a tragedy. You'll find out why when you try...been there, done that. So sad to see the card's potential go to waste like that, you're not even using the card, just passing the audio right through it.

Actually.

Soundcards annoy me when they messa round with music. They try to make it sound better but it DOESN'T which is exactly why my sound ATM is crystal clear because my soundcard is trying to fiddle with it and make it sound better!!!!!

[patrickgerry]

Bah I'm regretting buying this card. The sound is good but

1) The card runs hot. This may or may not be a problem really, I don't know.

2) I'm getting interference when the video card is under load. I've tested it and when the system is under load but the GPU is not... no interference, but when the GPU is under load I get a buzzing/whine sound. I am using the headphone jack at the back of the card too. :(

Any idea's on how I can solve issue no. 2?

*EDIT* I forgot to add I've muted the Mic inputs.

Try to move it away from your GPU. The heat may also be caused by the card being situated next to the GPU. It would be helpful if you can post a pic of your rig.

[Soulburner]

Actually.

Soundcards annoy me when they messa round with music. They try to make it sound better but it DOESN'T which is exactly why my sound ATM is crystal clear because my soundcard is trying to fiddle with it and make it sound better!!!!!
I'm sorry but I'm not alone on this. The Z-5500's sound like crap compared to the Auzentech cards. It is night and day. The sound card is not trying to "fiddle" with the sound, it is providing a high quality digital-to-analog conversion of the audio, something the Z-5500's just can't do.

So you really prefer your Logitech DAC over the Auzen DAC? That's fine, but you're in a surprising minority. To each his own though.

Unless it's for the Dolby processing, you may as well stick with free onboard audio and you'd get the exact same sound. Then you have $150 to spend on something more useful.

Also, can anyone confirm that EAX actually works with digital out?

[16floz470ml]

To me the only reason the analog sounds better is because it is 96-24. The spdif only puts out 48-24 with dts and 48-16 with ddl. Of course the analog sounds better.

If you notice the Z-5500 display for analog is always 96-24 no matter what your input is. So to me this means the analog is always upmixed with the Z-5500 not your sound card. The spdif on the other hand will only output what you input.

I have read all the articles that state what you are saying. I have read a lot of things on the internet. To use EAX with the spdif you have to turn it off in the sound card control panel. Then you enable it in game and set the renderer in game to hardware.

[Donnie27]

To me the only reason the analog sounds better is because it is 96-24. The spdif only puts out 48-24 with dts and 48-16 with ddl. Of course the analog sounds better.

If you notice the Z-5500 display for analog is always 96-24 no matter what your input is. So to me this means the analog is always upmixed with the Z-5500 not your sound card. The spdif on the other hand will only output what you input.

I have read all the articles that state what you are saying. I have read a lot of things on the internet. To use EAX with the spdif you have to turn it off in the sound card control panel. Then you enable it in game and set the renderer in game to hardware.

I left Z5500 alone along time ago. So I can't comment on them. EAX should be able to be sent out via S/PDIF at only 48-16. At best EAX3 and higher doesn't push or come close to Hi-Fi. As I argued with the Audiophile long ago, a card can sound GREAT for music playback and sound like crap for games.

I get EAX effects with S/PDIF and no, I don't disable it. But I use a receiver and use it DAC for Digital. BUT I play most of my Games in Analog mode and it kills digital anyway. Again, I'm not using logitech or any other computer speaker for that matter.

[16floz470ml]

This is right from Auzentech.

Q : I have a 5.1 receiver with DTS and Dolby® Digital decoding. Can you tell me how to configure Battlefield 2 for the best surround sound?
A : Yes. Set the EAX feature to "OFF." Set the Audio renderer to "Hardware." Enjoy.

I think they mean to turn it off in game instead of in the control panel like I originally said.

[Godofwar424]

I'm sorry but I'm not alone on this. The Z-5500's sound like crap compared to the Auzentech cards. It is night and day. The sound card is not trying to "fiddle" with the sound, it is providing a high quality digital-to-analog conversion of the audio, something the Z-5500's just can't do.

So you really prefer your Logitech DAC over the Auzen DAC? That's fine, but you're in a surprising minority. To each his own though.

Unless it's for the Dolby processing, you may as well stick with free onboard audio and you'd get the exact same sound. Then you have $150 to spend on something more useful.

Also, can anyone confirm that EAX actually works with digital out?

Seems, I misunderstood you.

I was talking about games. Because for games Dolby Digital Live makes a hgue difference. EAX does still work because in game like UT3 and Quake I can hear the effects. But Dolby Digital Live gives much better positional audio.

For music obviously the soundcard should be on analogue because the DAC's in my soundcard are much higher quality then the ones in my Z-5500.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Donnie27]

This is right from Auzentech.

Q : I have a 5.1 receiver with DTS and Dolby® Digital decoding. Can you tell me how to configure Battlefield 2 for the best surround sound?
A : Yes. Set the EAX feature to "OFF." Set the Audio renderer to "Hardware." Enjoy.

I think they mean to turn it off in game instead of in the control panel like I originally said.

I honestly don't know what they mean. I enable EAX on the Card and in the Game for DTS when I use S/PDIF. Like I said though, I use Analog 5.1 Direct because it sound better and with ZERO lag.

It's a shame to by-pass the nice DACs that ship with the Forte.

[Soulburner]

Seems, I misunderstood you.

I was talking about games. Because for games Dolby Digital Live makes a hgue difference. EAX does still work because in game like UT3 and Quake I can hear the effects. But Dolby Digital Live gives much better positional audio.

For music obviously the soundcard should be on analogue because the DAC's in my soundcard are much higher quality then the ones in my Z-5500.

Sorry for the confusion.
That makes more sense. My experience with the Z-5500's told me they were terrible for music, but "ok" for movies and games.

I didn't want to come off too harsh, but I was really displeased with my set and it pushed me into the research that led me to the setup I have now, with the help of the guys here, including Donnie, Miwo, and others.

[GAR]

anyone using this with SLI, does it make crackling noises after a while, you have to change the audio mode or restart to fix?? my titanium is doing it now, i need to replace.

[Negz]

Try to move it away from your GPU. The heat may also be caused by the card being situated next to the GPU. It would be helpful if you can post a pic of your rig.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3880/dsc00002f.jpg

Sorry for the bad quality.

The motherboard is a EP45-DS3L and it has 4 PCI-E 1x slots.

The one above the videocard won't fit because of the RAM slots.

The ones below the videocard doesn't fit because of the cooler on the video card.

So it is as far as it can go. :(

[koc]

I just completed my gaming sound system

*Auzentech Forte 7.1
* Sennheiser HD 650
*Graham slee headphone amp

the sound is amazing and crystal clear :up:

But i want to know what is the best setting for gaming

DTS , DDL . EXA , Bass

what should i enable or disable for best sound for gaming

[REBEL900]

I just completed my gaming sound system

*Auzentech Forte 7.1
* Sennheiser HD 650
*Graham slee headphone amp

the sound is amazing and crystal clear :up:

But i want to know what is the best setting for gaming

DTS , DDL . EXA , Bass

what should i enable or disable for best sound for gaming

Hey congrats! How is it different with and without the AMP, (Specific)..

I use the Forte alone and it drives my beyers DT880 fine at 60% volume..

Is DTS, DDL, EXA, bass, settings on the amp?

[koc]

Hey congrats! How is it different with and without the AMP, (Specific)..

I use the Forte alone and it drives my beyers DT880 fine at 60% volume..

Is DTS, DDL, EXA, bass, settings on the amp?

Well , I don't consider myself an audio expert , but I can safely say that the Reflex is a very big improvement over the built-in preamp of my Auzentech forte 7.1 sound card . I am hearing details now which I did not hear before. The sound with GRAHAM SLEE AMP more alive and much more exciting and more powerful

more info here

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/graham-slee-solo-initial-impressions-292131/

edit: the dts, ddl, exa, setting on the audio control panel

[REBEL900]

Well , I don't consider myself an audio expert , but I can safely say that the Reflex is a very big improvement over the built-in preamp of my Auzentech forte 7.1 sound card . I am hearing details now which I did not hear before. The sound with GRAHAM SLEE AMP more alive and much more exciting and more powerful

more info here

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/graham-slee-solo-initial-impressions-292131/

edit: the dts, ddl, exa, setting on the audio control panel

I seen the price of the Graham and it's a little steep for me, still would get it, but, i mostly use or only use my set-up for gamming and not music, is there a noticable improvement in games? Would i hear more detail?

Thanks
I am using XP PRO and don't have dts and have it set-up for gaming so the others are grreyed out.

[Godofwar424]

I prefer DDL for gaming. I find it gives much clearer and more accurate 3d possitioning.

[koc]

I seen the price of the Graham and it's a little steep for me, still would get it, but, i mostly use or only use my set-up for gamming and not music, is there a noticable improvement in games? Would i hear more detail?

Thanks
I am using XP PRO and don't have dts and have it set-up for gaming so the others are grreyed out.

Well , Graham it specially designed for high quality dynamic headphones and it depends in the audio source also

very good sound source + Graham + high quality dynamic headphones = amazing sound experience

for me Graham driving my HD650 very well and i can hear much much details in the game with amazing sound quality , cant be happy more :)

Graham for sure will make much different in sound quality with any good headphone
BUT it will give amazing sound for gaming with high quality dynamic headphones.

[Jodiuh]

in steam it works fine but in l4d its a bit soft, but definitely working because when I yell at noobs they listen :rofl:
The Auzen site lists mic boost as being added in the latest driver. Does that fix your issue? If not, does it persist?

[ROBSCIX]

The Forte also offers DTS-Connect which many say is better then DDL....

[Donnie27]

I prefer DDL for gaming. I find it gives much clearer and more accurate 3d possitioning.

I like DTS better than DDL and Rob above is right. My Receiver likes DTS better as well.

[koc]

more info about dts and ddl

http://www.bettercomputers.com.au/dolby_dts.php#dts

[REBEL900]

Well , Graham it specially designed for high quality dynamic headphones and it depends in the audio source also

very good sound source + Graham + high quality dynamic headphones = amazing sound experience

for me Graham driving my HD650 very well and i can hear much much details in the game with amazing sound quality , cant be happy more :)

Graham for sure will make much different in sound quality with any good headphone
BUT it will give amazing sound for gaming with high quality dynamic headphones.

I'm gonna take your advice and save up for one. Thanks! :up:

[Matas]

What type of cable I should buy to connect S750 to X-Fi Forte? General stereo mini jack cable?

[Jodiuh]

S750?

Hey guys, installing Windows 7 64 build 7600 RTM today and noticed some updated drivers on Auzen's site. Gonna try and install wo/ compat mode to see if they fixed it for 7, will report back.

http://www.auzensupport.com/site/download/updates.php

•Release Date: 07/28/2009

Changes in this Driver
•Automode Switcher settings/app list are restored upon reboot.

Changelog Carried Forward from Previous Drivers...

Driver Beta 1
•Supports Windows 7 (as well as XP and Vista )
•Speakers are muted automatically when headphone is connected to Fornt Panel jack.
•Speakers are muted and sound is routed through the Rear and Front headphone jack when output mode is manually configured to "Headphone."
•Improved the MIC Boost feature to avoid the noise and interference.

[Matas]

Yup, Creative GigaWorks S750. I think it's general mini jack cable.
Thread starter Safan80 mentioned that he connected X-Fi Forte to S750, sadly he didn't mentioned what cables he have used.

[Jodiuh]

Oh yeah, use the analog jacks if they're on that setup. 7.1, right? So you've got 4 cables that'll go into the back of the dongle from the Forte. I've hooked it up to my receiver that way before, works fine.


Gonna try and install wo/ compat mode to see if they fixed it for 7, will report back.
Yup, works fine if installed normally.

[Matas]

I need to purchase one or two separate mini jack cables, because S750's rear and the side channels are merged into one. 4 mini jack cables go into 3.

[GunterFalstaff]

lol, i dont know diddly about sound cards/audio... but is there a cheaper version of this card that has the same sound quality and everything but 5.1? i like the pci-e and all... just not the price =/ lol (not necessarily the same company... just a good card with equal sound quality but fewer extras... i hope that makes sense lol)

[diredesire]

lol, i dont know diddly about sound cards/audio... but is there a cheaper version of this card that has the same sound quality and everything but 5.1? i like the pci-e and all... just not the price =/ lol (not necessarily the same company... just a good card with equal sound quality but fewer extras... i hope that makes sense lol)

Not that I've seen... this IS the cheaper version AFAIK, a "little brother" of sorts to the prelude, although... not really.

[GunterFalstaff]

i finally broke down and bought this card... LOL. i got it from provantage for $125 and $5 shipping... cant wait to play around with it... thanks so much for this very informative thread guys :up:

[diredesire]

i finally broke down and bought this card... LOL. i got it from provantage for $125 and $5 shipping... cant wait to play around with it... thanks so much for this very informative thread guys :up:

I felt the exact same way as you, I just dropped the coin in the end :rofl:

I figured $125-140 was a little much for a sound card, but i realized that I had been using my ZS for a REALLY long time. It'll be worth it ;)

[xman01]

what makes this card the best?

i was considering getting something from asus for around usd 100, but reading this thread has me wondering

[Jodiuh]

Do you play games?

[Donnie27]

what makes this card the best?

i was considering getting something from asus for around usd 100, but reading this thread has me wondering

Since you're using a 4870, I assume you're a gamer. Yes, the Creative BASED card is the one to have.

[Jodiuh]

He/she might be folding?

That said, I tore it up in GRID @ a recent LAN party. Being able to hear the dude behind me and slam on the brakes and THEN hear, "YOU @#$@#!" from across the table...oh it just doesn't get any better than that. Thank you CMSS 3D...I mean Aureal!

[Donnie27]

He/she might be folding?

That said, I tore it up in GRID @ a recent LAN party. Being able to hear the dude behind me and slam on the brakes and THEN hear, "YOU @#$@#!" from across the table...oh it just doesn't get any better than that. Thank you CMSS 3D...I mean Aureal!

Yeep, missed that one. Forgot about folding.

Oh yeah, I'm a big proponent of CMSS and CMSS3D. I once got banned from America's Army because they said I was using a wall Hack. I knew which hallway they were coming down, I knew if they were upstairs or downstairs, standing, laying or kneeling.

When I first used it, I suffered what I'd found out later is called Sensory overload. I couldn't process all of the sounds. So I went back to the training map and paid more attention to the sounds I made first, then the others. After about 10 days I identified about 60 different sounds. No, it didn't make me invincible but my skill level took a nice bump up. That is until cheaters and too many little kids showed up.

[iTravis]

I'm gonna get this card to replace my X-Fi Fatal1ty, hopefully it will fit perfectly with my upcoming eVGA X58 Classified. Btw I saw 2 versions on newegg, the low-profile one and the other one with PCI interface, is there any difference between the 2 besides the interface and the connectors? Would it be a worthy upgrade over my X-Fi?

[Jodiuh]

That depends. What are you outputting to?

[Donnie27]

I'm gonna get this card to replace my X-Fi Fatal1ty, hopefully it will fit perfectly with my upcoming eVGA X58 Classified. Btw I saw 2 versions on newegg, the low-profile one and the other one with PCI interface, is there any difference between the 2 besides the interface and the connectors? Would it be a worthy upgrade over my X-Fi?

I'd say keep the X-FI if you're using the Logitech 5500 speakers with it. Now if you love analog music the upgrade might not be a bad idea.

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

the optical output is coaxial only? what about the regular optical with the red light ?

[iTravis]

I don't use digital, just analog. :D Mainly for music and gaming btw.

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

my Auzentech mystique 7.1 has optical.... why not this one? Am i missing something?

my receiver as 2 optical + 1 coaxial + analogs

I need optical but forte only has coaxial...

[Jodiuh]

It comes w/ an optical adaptor.

iTravis: This would be just for your 5500's? Even still, you could always get a fun pair of headphones and that would show a difference. It really depends on your hearing too. If you can't hear the difference, then it doesn't matter. I've had an X-Fi, Fatal1ty (pci), Elite Pro, and now this Auzen. Not only does the Auzen fit snugly in that top spot below the chipset, but it delivers the best sound quality of the lot.

[iTravis]

It comes w/ an optical adaptor.

iTravis: This would be just for your 5500's? Even still, you could always get a fun pair of headphones and that would show a difference. It really depends on your hearing too. If you can't hear the difference, then it doesn't matter. I've had an X-Fi, Fatal1ty (pci), Elite Pro, and now this Auzen. Not only does the Auzen fit snugly in that top spot below the chipset, but it delivers the best sound quality of the lot.

Yeh it's just for my Z-5500 and I don't use headphone. :D But if you say so then it's a no brainer for me since you have owned the Fatal1ty. Reason why is I wanna get rid of the I/O Bay that I barely touch it and take advantage of the PCI-E 1x slot on my eVGA Classified but of course at the same time I would love to see an improvement in sound quality too. :D

[Jodiuh]

Through my PIMETA and HD580's, the Auzen truly sings and it's definitely a class above the Fatal1ty. But whether or not I could hear that difference from my Klipsch 4.1's (or your 5500's), I don't know. I do know however that deadphones are the cheapest way to really get the most out of music IMO. I started w/a pair of Koss PortaPro Jr's that I found laying in a meijer grocery store closeout sale. A dog has since gobbled them up, but that's where it all started for me. Never before had I heard such a clear distinction between the instruments and vocals before. The music, any music seemed to come alive through these things. Later I would delve more deeply into head-fi and soon become a can junkie.

As far as an improvement in sound quality, check this thread if you haven't already:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60774

And at the very least, you'll get the sweetness that comes from stuffing your much smaller form factor sound card up and away from your video card! Here's a pic to keep you interested while you wait...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/IMG_3173.jpg

[iTravis]

That make senses when you listen with your headphone then you can "feel" it better than the speakers. So I think I pretty much make up my decision and put my X-Fi on sale then grab the Forte. Thanks for the advice and that's one sexy setup you have there. :up:
May the Forte be with me. :ROTF:

[Donnie27]

That make senses when you listen with your headphone then you can "feel" it better than the speakers. So I think I pretty much make up my decision and put my X-Fi on sale then grab the Forte. Thanks for the advice and that's one sexy setup you have there. :up:
May the Forte be with me. :ROTF:

Sure but as far as feel goes, it depends on what system you have! No headphones I've ever listened has made my whole body feel explosions=P

You're not going to hear that much difference with Z5500 speakers. Even many of the newer receivers don't sound as good, unless you gobs of money to spend. A good way to go is Old School from EBay. Find the stuff that many companies sold and were sued for hearing damage. So the down graded most stuff out the now.

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr245/Donnie27_photos/BlackBoxNewmids.jpg

I can feel sounds from head to toe, not just near my head with Cans.

One friend once thought my Force Feed Joy stick made sounds because the sounds seemed to be coming from the stick. It made no sounds except for sight pulley noises. Not to mention Holographic sounds from just about every spot in the Room. That friend always tells others about all the time. He was disappointed when I stopped using that Stick (it broke).

I have a Prelude and X-Fi Platinum.

[iTravis]

Sure but as far as feel goes, it depends on what system you have! No headphones I've ever listened has made my whole body feel explosions=P

You're not going to hear that much difference with Z5500 speakers. Even many of the newer receivers don't sound as good, unless you gobs of money to spend. A good way to go is Old School from EBay. Find the stuff that many companies sold and were sued for hearing damage. So the down graded most stuff out the now.

I can feel sounds from head to toe, not just near my head with Cans.

One friend once thought my Force Feed Joy stick made sounds because the sounds seemed to be coming from the stick. It made no sounds except for sight pulley noises. Not to mention Holographic sounds from just about every spot in the Room. That friend always tells others about all the time. He was disappointed when I stopped using that Stick (it broke).

I have a Prelude and X-Fi Platinum.

You have a great setup while I only have the Z-5500, like I said I mainly use it for gaming and music so I would like to have the best sound quality possible even though I don't expect to see a huge improvement over my X-Fi Fatal1ty. Considering I'm gonna get rid of my Fatal1ty and probably just spend a little more to get the Forte, I just wanna know if my money is well worth spending as I heard lot of people say the Auzentech Forte or Asus Xonar D2 is way to go if you start from scratch. I'm gonna upgrade my system and since the eVGA Classified only has 1 PCI slot, I need a card to take up that PCI-E 1x slot so it doesn't interfere with my other cards. So let just say the upsides: it's smaller, give me better cable management, PCI-E 1x interface, same to better in sound quality....looks like I have a lot to gain but nothing to lose right?
Btw it might be a stupid question but do you always have to plug your headphone into the back of your computer as it doesn't come with the I/O drive? And I have a USB headphone, does it make a different when you use it compare to other using the standard connection?

[Jodiuh]

He's full of crap. He can feel those Beyer's and he knows it. :D Bbbb...BASS! BASS!! (http://thenicetech.com/Ultimate%20Bass%20Test.mp3)

iTravis: There's a headphone out and a front line. So you can have both plugged in if you like. I just run the front line to my headphone amp and it's got an output that goes to the Klipsch...keeps things tidy.

[Donnie27]

You have a great setup while I only have the Z-5500, like I said I mainly use it for gaming and music so I would like to have the best sound quality possible even though I don't expect to see a huge improvement over my X-Fi Fatal1ty. Considering I'm gonna get rid of my Fatal1ty and probably just spend a little more to get the Forte, I just wanna know if my money is well worth spending as I heard lot of people say the Auzentech Forte or Asus Xonar D2 is way to go if you start from scratch. I'm gonna upgrade my system and since the eVGA Classified only has 1 PCI slot, I need a card to take up that PCI-E 1x slot so it doesn't interfere with my other cards. So let just say the upsides: it's smaller, give me better cable management, PCI-E 1x interface, same to better in sound quality....looks like I have a lot to gain but nothing to lose right?
Btw it might be a stupid question but do you always have to plug your headphone into the back of your computer as it doesn't come with the I/O drive? And I have a USB headphone, does it make a different when you use it compare to other using the standard connection?

Thanks man!

Last things first. My cans connect to the front of the case's I/O input for my Prelude. My X-Fi Platinum is in my Home Theater PC, (I use) it connects to the Front on the X-Fi Platinum's Headphone input on the I/O Drive. Most of the time I use Digital with the HTPC (uses both DDL and DTS), I left the X-Fi in that PC. The Forte and Titanium have stand Case I/O connections on the cards.

If you need to take advantage of the PCI-E slot, I'd say go for it. I'd not upgrade just for the so called better sound. I've gotten a chance to play with a couple of different systems with Forte and the Titanium X-FI. The one that thing impressed me the most that the drivers on the PCI-E version work better. It seems like what was seen as a PCI bus Hog is a light weight on the PCI-E bus.

And even the $139 that Newegg sells it for is what I thought the Prelude should have sold for. Very nice going Auzentech, way to go guys!


He's full of crap. He can feel those Beyer's and he knows it. Bbbb...BASS! BASS!!


Hehehehe! The DT 770's (like em' a lot BTW) can't touch my system.:up:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I just picked up Some BD DT 770 pro's (80 ohm) and a Blue snowball microphone yesterday, holy f-ing crap is all I have to say :p: sounds incredible in combo with the forte :up:

[Donnie27]

I just picked up Some BD DT 770 pro's (80 ohm) and a Blue snowball microphone yesterday, holy f-ing crap is all I have to say :p: sounds incredible in combo with the forte :up:

Wait until you finished breaking them in:up: They'll sound even better.

[iTravis]

Thanks man!

Last things first. My cans connect to the front of the case's I/O input for my Prelude. My X-Fi Platinum is in my Home Theater PC, (I use) it connects to the Front on the X-Fi Platinum's Headphone input on the I/O Drive. Most of the time I use Digital with the HTPC (uses both DDL and DTS), I left the X-Fi in that PC. The Forte and Titanium have stand Case I/O connections on the cards.

If you need to take advantage of the PCI-E slot, I'd say go for it. I'd not upgrade just for the so called better sound. I've gotten a chance to play with a couple of different systems with Forte and the Titanium X-FI. The one that thing impressed me the most that the drivers on the PCI-E version work better. It seems like what was seen as a PCI bus Hog is a light weight on the PCI-E bus.

And even the $139 that Newegg sells it for is what I thought the Prelude should have sold for. Very nice going Auzentech, way to go guys!



Hehehehe! The DT 770's (like em' a lot BTW) can't touch my system.:up:

Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between the Forte and the Prelude?
I might not be a pro audiophile but I enjoy and love music therefore I want the best sound quality possible. Right now I have a Xtreme Music on my 2nd rig, a Fatal1ty on my main rig and a Razer Barracuda AC1 on my HTPC (don't know if this card sounds familiar to you but since I only paid 50 bucks for it, I consider that's a pretty darn good investment. :D) And I use digital for my HTPC connects directly to my receiver, that's why I got it since it comes with optical in/output in handy. :D I might get a good headphone soon for midnight movie but that's for later, I'll just get the Forte on newegg + 6% Bing cashback first, ain't that bad for a minor upgrade huh. :up:
Pix of my setup:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1528/img0224l.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/img0224l.jpg/)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8637/img0272v.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/img0272v.jpg/)

[Donnie27]

Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between the Forte and the Prelude?
I might not be a pro audiophile but I enjoy and love music therefore I want the best sound quality possible. Right now I have a Xtreme Music on my 2nd rig, a Fatal1ty on my main rig and a Razer Barracuda AC1 on my HTPC (don't know if this card sounds familiar to you but since I only paid 50 bucks for it, I consider that's a pretty darn good investment. :D) And I use digital for my HTPC connects directly to my receiver, that's why I got it since it comes with optical in/output in handy. :D I might get a good headphone soon for midnight movie but that's for later, I'll just get the Forte on newegg + 6% Bing cashback first, ain't that bad for a minor upgrade huh. :up:
Pix of my setup:



The main difference is that Prelude is PCI and Forte is PCI-E.

I'm not any kind of Audiophile and usually see many of them as crazy snobby folks. I must admit though I've also met some who where funny & nice as well. I do like good sounds, love a lot of different kinds of Music and can't watch a Movie without 5.1 or at least 2.1 with CMSS3D. The amounts of money folks spend for the tiny differences are obscene IMHO!

My DIYer speakers cost me a little more than my old Creative MW650 6.1 Speakers that are currently Broke. I also have a dead set of Logitech 560Z 4.1. both lasted longer than year and died at about 13 months.

If I needed a sound card, I'd go with a Forte hands down. I know about the Barracuda and I'm not a big fan of them at all. My Home Theater is talked about in the http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=232321 thread. I thought it was a gimmick until I tried it myself. I'm now stuck on HDMI 1.3 or better. Though I agree with what you're saying otherwise.

Oh, that's some nice stuff you have as well:up: One of the real musician Audiophiles told me "Once you try a real Audio system, nothing fancy, just real, you'll never want computer multimedia speakers again, he was right.

As Raptor22 can tell you, I love Old school stuff! Receivers, Integrated AMP and straight Amps with Separate Pre-Amps. Again, I've heard Blissful sounds for $200 Old School systems connected even the old Audigy 2 ZS.

[xman01]

Since you're using a 4870, I assume you're a gamer. Yes, the Creative BASED card is the one to have.

yes im a gamer
guess i got to buy 1 now:yepp:

[Jodiuh]

Blue snowball microphone
What is this device you speak of?

yes im a gamer
guess i got to buy 1 now:yepp:
It's like a wall hack for you ears. I'm not kidding. The combo of a Creative based card + a good closed pair of headphones @ a LAN party's unmatched. I once drove 45 minutes home because I left part of my setup in the apt. I know I have a pic of it here somewhere...ah, here it is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/th_Jod_fail.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/?action=view&current=Jod_fail.jpg)

Look @ how devastated I was in the photo. Don't let this happen to you!

[xman01]

lol

happened to me once
i said :banana::banana::banana::banana:it and played without audio

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

What is this device you speak of?


http://www.bluemic.com/store/index.php?crn=205&rn=376&action=show_detail

its a little goofy looking, but its got great sound quality. I use mine as a headphone stand/holder :D

[Donnie27]

http://www.bluemic.com/store/index.php?crn=205&rn=376&action=show_detail

its a little goofy looking, but its got great sound quality. I use mine as a headphone stand/holder :D

I've heard good things about that mic! I'd love to try one.

I like the MIC input on my X-Fi platinum and not wanting use a USB MIC is the reason I'm not using the Prelude in my HTPC. MIC support on the Prelude is a bad joke at best. Computer out to a Guitar Amps Active input is pretty danged good:up: The Music Creation Mode and a Les Paul has to be tried. Even with an Epiphone Les Paul!

[Donnie27]

Might be late but, if you Windows 7 users haven't updated your Prelude's drivers yet, go to Auzentech and get them, they're working great for me.

[Jodiuh]

Anyone having an issue under Windows 7 64 RTM w/ the newer Auzen drivers that kills the mic when changing modes? I'll be in game mode, switch out to entertainment and find my rear mic has now become "currently unavailable" in the windows recording devices panel. So far, the only fix's to reboot. I don't remember having this issue in RC1, but I did install w/ compat mode. I figured that wasn't necessary since the newer Auzen drivers mentioned 7 support and the aud engine.exe works wo/ compat enforced. I have Driver Beta 1 installed.

[Donnie27]

Anyone having an issue under Windows 7 64 RTM w/ the newer Auzen drivers that kills the mic when changing modes? I'll be in game mode, switch out to entertainment and find my rear mic has now become "currently unavailable" in the windows recording devices panel. So far, the only fix's to reboot. I don't remember having this issue in RC1, but I did install w/ compat mode. I figured that wasn't necessary since the newer Auzen drivers mentioned 7 support and the aud engine.exe works wo/ compat enforced. I have Driver Beta 1 installed.

I'll play with mine this evening and see if there's a better way. I hadn't tried the mike yet.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Just got the FLAC remastered version of Blood Sugar Sex Magik :shocked: with the forte and the beyers I feel like i am listening to a whole new album :rocker:

[koc]

Hi guys

Just i want to share with you my experience

I bought Sennhe. HD650 with Graham slee amp for gaming , and the sound was clear and amazing .

And recently i bought DACMagic with some good cables to complete my sound system , my sound rig ;

Auzen Forte 7.1 --> Fiber glass digital cable --> DACMagic --> RCAs interconnects cable (pure copper) --> GRS slee amp --> Blue Dragon Sennhe. Cable --> HD650

I was realy shocked from the sound , very crystal clear with deep bass and much more details , sorry if i cant explain this technically
but i can safety said , the sound now very rich and much more clear with more details , i am very happy with my sound system :up:

[Donnie27]

Just got the FLAC remastered version of Blood Sugar Sex Magik :shocked: with the forte and the beyers I feel like i am listening to a whole new album :rocker:

Another convert LOL! Remember a certain member here with Denon 2000 telling me DT770 are just mid-bass lol? Lookie Lookie, I built a Can amp for $400. I'm like whoopty doo, built a Ham Radio when I was 12 LOL!

Anyway, I'd not trade my 770 80's for anything costing $200 or less. Connected to my Harmon Kardon 730's Headphone out, it has put $500 home and Pre-built amps to shame! Note, I said some because I've heard eight out of 100's them, heheheh! So clearly I can't say all of them.

[Donnie27]

Hi guys

Just i want to share with you my experience

I bought Sennhe. HD650 with Graham slee amp for gaming , and the sound was clear and amazing .

And recently i bought DACMagic with some good cables to complete my sound system , my sound rig ;

Auzen Forte 7.1 --> Fiber glass digital cable --> DACMagic --> RCAs interconnects cable (pure copper) --> GRS slee amp --> Blue Dragon Sennhe. Cable --> HD650

I was realy shocked from the sound , very crystal clear with deep bass and much more details , sorry if i cant explain this technically
but i cas safety said , the sound now very rich and much more clear with more details , i am very happy with my sound system :up:

Doesn't matter, you explained it well enough because if it makes you happy, or it pleases you, then it is great!

[barong]

sorry if oot , is there any significant improvement if i upgrade my creative x fi xtreme gamer to this auzentech x fi forte?

[Donnie27]

sorry if oot , is there any significant improvement if i upgrade my creative x fi xtreme gamer to this auzentech x fi forte?

Forte is better Driver and Hardware wise. It has better Opamps, Dacs and the PCI-E card cause less of a strain on the system's BUS, i.e. NO PCI issues on many none Intel Chipsets.

[Jodiuh]

So basically "yes" but it depends on your output device. The source's only part of the equation. Great source + average speakers = average sound. Great source + great speakers = great sound. Make sense?

[iTravis]

Thank you Donnie27 and Jodiuh as you guys did such a great job for promoting the Forte (no sarcasm intended). I haven't played with it much but I notice a small improvement over my Fatal1ty as the sound is bit cleaner and crisper. Wish I could just put it right above my video card but it's blocked by the huge northbridge.
(Sorry for the cable management, can't do much with the old Armor).
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6260/img0313i.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/img0313i.jpg/)

[Donnie27]

Thank you Donnie27 and Jodiuh as you guys did such a great job for promoting the Forte (no sarcasm intended). I haven't played with it much but I notice a small improvement over my Fatal1ty as the sound is bit cleaner and crisper. Wish I could just put it right above my video card but it's blocked by the huge northbridge.
(Sorry for the cable management, can't do much with the old Armor).


Hehehe! I'm not paid by Auzentech or anyone else. Just passionate about computer sound systems.

[barong]

also which speaker 2.1 is good to pair with this forte?

[Jodiuh]

iTravis:
I think we both did a great job telling you SQ would remain the same if listened to on those Logitech 5500's. :D

barong:
I'm not a speaker dude, but here's a great FAQ (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60774) for quality headphones, amps, etc.

[iTravis]

iTravis:
I think we both did a great job telling you SQ would remain the same if listened to on those Logitech 5500's. :D

barong:
I'm not a speaker dude, but here's a great FAQ (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60774) for quality headphones, amps, etc.

I guess it all depends on our ears :ROTF:

@Donnie27: I know, just saying :D

[Jodiuh]

Very true. For example, I preferred the SQ of a Sony Walkman NWZ-S616 over the 2nd Gen iPod touch due to it's more punchy and in your face sonics. And this goes all the way down to a cheap pair of 7yr old Sennheiser MX500's! Although I'm really looking forward to the new Zune HD for a transportable listening station! I hate being tied to my pc for listening to music.

[Donnie27]

also which speaker is good to pair with this forte? 2.1 , 5.1?

Gaming 5.1, Music only 2.1 and both 5.1. Again, if you have the room and money, a Mid Range Receiver and decent bookshelf speakers will kill even the most expensive Computer Multimedia speakers. $200 can get you an Onkyo HTiB or you can find many old school receivers at EBay, Local Fea Market, Pawn shop/brokers and etc... Many of my buds think I spent at least 5 times what I paid for mine.

Of these Ole School receivers I like the Harmon Kardons, Nakamichi, Marantz, JVC and if you need to bring down the house, Sansui loud will kill your hearing. Pioneer and or Kenwood ain't bad either.

[Donnie27]

I guess it all depends on our ears :ROTF:

@Donnie27: I know, just saying :D


I know, I forgot the :) at the end :up:

[iTravis]

Very true. For example, I preferred the SQ of a Sony Walkman NWZ-S616 over the 2nd Gen iPod touch due to it's more punchy and in your face sonics. And this goes all the way down to a cheap pair of 7yr old Sennheiser MX500's! Although I'm really looking forward to the new Zune HD for a transportable listening station! I hate being tied to my pc for listening to music.

Zune HD sound tempting to me even though I'm quiet happy with my old 2G iPhone. It's coming out Sept 15th which is tomorrow :eek: But I guess I'll hold off for awhile since I just went all out with the computer upgrade.

[barong]

Gaming 5.1, Music only 2.1 and both 5.1. Again, if you have the room and money, a Mid Range Receiver and decent bookshelf speakers will kill even the most expensive Computer Multimedia speakers. $200 can get you an Onkyo HTiB or you can find many old school receivers at EBay, Local Fea Market, Pawn shop/brokers and etc... Many of my buds think I spent at least 5 times what I paid for mine.

Of these Ole School receivers I like the Harmon Kardons, Nakamichi, Marantz, JVC and if you need to bring down the house, Sansui loud will kill your hearing. Pioneer and or Kenwood ain't bad either.

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

[Jodiuh]

Well, those are all computer multimedia speakers. Small cones, small sound, cluttered detail. Even an Onkyo HTIB would pound the best of those. For the same price...maybe less.

[barong]

Gaming 5.1, Music only 2.1 and both 5.1. Again, if you have the room and money, a Mid Range Receiver and decent bookshelf speakers will kill even the most expensive Computer Multimedia speakers. $200 can get you an Onkyo HTiB or you can find many old school receivers at EBay, Local Fea Market, Pawn shop/brokers and etc... Many of my buds think I spent at least 5 times what I paid for mine.

Of these Ole School receivers I like the Harmon Kardons, Nakamichi, Marantz, JVC and if you need to bring down the house, Sansui loud will kill your hearing. Pioneer and or Kenwood ain't bad either.

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

[iTravis]

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

The Z-2300 is one of best 2.1 speakers out there, I happened to own it for awhile and I just love it. The sound quality is pretty good for a 2.1 set and the bass is superb. You'll be happy with it for music and gaming. :up:

[Donnie27]

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

I don't like any of them. Jodiuh is dead on as well. I had one guy get mad at me because something I said made me seem "Smug" when I was trying to be helpful.

Try this? GO to a one of the and just try something like an old be cheap receiver and some modest bookshelf speakers? Then you'll hear why some call the non computer multimedia speakers "real speakers". The Logitech 5500's should go down to 30Hz, the "B" on my 5 string Bass Guitar is about 30Hz and 5500's suffer at low volumes trying to reproduce it.

Again, start cheap and move up to something better later. Please don't listen to Audiophile wanna-bees either. I'll be back, let me go to EBay and post an example or two?

[barong]

Gaming 5.1, Music only 2.1 and both 5.1. Again, if you have the room and money, a Mid Range Receiver and decent bookshelf speakers will kill even the most expensive Computer Multimedia speakers. $200 can get you an Onkyo HTiB or you can find many old school receivers at EBay, Local Fea Market, Pawn shop/brokers and etc... Many of my buds think I spent at least 5 times what I paid for mine.

Of these Ole School receivers I like the Harmon Kardons, Nakamichi, Marantz, JVC and if you need to bring down the house, Sansui loud will kill your hearing. Pioneer and or Kenwood ain't bad either.

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

[Jodiuh]

Audioengine 2 (http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/1207ae/) comes to mind.

[Donnie27]

i'd like the 2.1 , how about common speaker such altec lansing, logitech , edifier , or creative , because some brand its hard to find in my country, also how about logitech z-2300 sorry if oot, im usually using it for playing game

Then I'd go with 5.1 like the L-5400 over the 2.1 versions.

[barong]

i prefer 2.1 because there's no space in my room, also if i play i would to hear where was the enemy , i dont know what they called

[Donnie27]

i prefer 2.1 because there's no space in my room, also if i play i would to hear where was the enemy , i dont know what they called

You really might want to consider Headphones. You use the CMSS3D feature and do great surround sound gaming. CMSS3D recreates a very convincing 5.1 sound field.

[ROBSCIX]

A nice class D amplifier and a set of quality book sheld speaker would be a good start if your budget is limited. "PC" speakers are generally of low quality and not meant for serious audio playback. There are some exceptions of course...

[kazuyakun]

Just got these setup, anyone got any experience on working with the console to tweak em to get the best(as in accurate) sounds? Using the PC350s.

Currently got em setup both as headphone setting, but can't tell if 5.1 setting would sound better or what not.

[Jodiuh]

Driverheaven.net looks at the Auzentech X-Fi Forte and Asus Xonar DS Sound Cards - 29th Sep 2009 (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=846&pageid=7)

I like their conclusion. :D

"The X-Fi Forte continues this trend and the result is, without doubt, the best desktop audio card we have tested."

I have sinced moved my PIMETA amp and Sennheiser HD580's into the front room so that I could have a nice listening station w/ my comfy 12yr old rotty leather chair and brand new 3G iPod touch! This has given me the opportunity to hear the included headphone amp and it works out very nicely w/ my Beyerdynamic DT770 250's. Now instead of being chained to my pc, I have my own listening station because of that amp!

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the 250's work alright with the forte headphone amp? if so good to know, I was considering bumping up to some DT880's later on when I get some cash :)

[ROBSCIX]

The amplifier on the Forte actually has a great deal of power for a onboard can amplifier. IIRC, it is a discrete design using 12 transistors.

[Donnie27]

Driverheaven.net looks at the Auzentech X-Fi Forte and Asus Xonar DS Sound Cards - 29th Sep 2009 (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=846&pageid=7)

I like their conclusion. :D

"The X-Fi Forte continues this trend and the result is, without doubt, the best desktop audio card we have tested."

I have sinced moved my PIMETA amp and Sennheiser HD580's into the front room so that I could have a nice listening station w/ my comfy 12yr old rotty leather chair and brand new 3G iPod touch! This has given me the opportunity to hear the included headphone amp and it works out very nicely w/ my Beyerdynamic DT770 250's. Now instead of being chained to my pc, I have my own listening station because of that amp!

It almost over powers the DT 770 80's that I have.

[kazuyakun]

I was wondering if anyone else think its either a faulty card, or what not. Been using this card for about a week, and this is the third time I suddenly got static, crackling sounds during playback. I check if it was my headphones' fault by testing another pair and its definitely the sound card.

I can "fix" this issue by simply closing foobar, and going into the control panel to either change device and switching it back or changing from DDL to DTS in the encoding. I'm using the latest drivers 6.0.1.1401 Driver date 7/22/2009. These were the newest drivers on the site. I read people had trouble with old drivers so I had these drivers (not from the CD) since day 1 that I got em.

[Jodiuh]

I have had my fair share of odd glitches with this device. Just yesterday I had crazy staticy/crackly audio. Changing modes fixed it. And of course my mic always fubars if I change modes. I blame the creative software and it's 33 thousand processes raping my system.

[Donnie27]

I have had my fair share of odd glitches with this device. Just yesterday I had crazy staticy/crackly audio. Changing modes fixed it. And of course my mic always fubars if I change modes. I blame the creative software and it's 33 thousand processes raping my system.

I've gotten used to stopping what I'm doing to change modes and hell, some settings as well. Like going from 5.1 speakers to headphones with music playing will cause a "Stop working glitch".

There's more to it than just Creative Labs though. I didn't notice these kinds of hangs until about May 09. I used to leave music playing while changing modes. Then in May my computer locked and then went to desktop after about 30 secs.

Processes raping your system? Disable every one of them and they'll NOT affect your system at all in most cases. You'll just have to set and reset everything every time you change something. Many of the real hogs can be disabled in the Audio Control Panel.

Right now I have the full install on the Prelude with sniffer and a few other options disabled with almost no problem at all. Again, both the Titanium and Forte work better than their PCI brothers.

[ROBSCIX]

There is a auto mode switcher around. Try using that...

[Jodiuh]

There's one that came installed with the July drivers too. Although I pretty much leave the thing in game mode now. My pcs no longer a listening station. :-)

[ROBSCIX]

They are helpful if you change modes all the time. For those that complain about mode changes this is a great solution.

[Donnie27]

They are helpful if you change modes all the time. For those that complain about mode changes this is a great solution.

Again Rob, some folks are finding that even auto switchers that worked fine before are now causing the same problem. The errors are "Device Stopped working", "Device Already is use"--> by another app, "please shut down device "Device not responding" and etc............. Auto Mode switchers like Titanium Software not nothing for *some folks.

* means NOT all.

[barong]

anyone can give me the setting for forte? im noob for this sc, im using for FPS gaming, please need guide

also how exactly do you switch output between my headphones which are plugged into the headphone output and my speakers which are plugged into the analog output?

[barong]

sorry double post

[barong]

can i use DDL without using spdif or optical cable?

[Donnie27]

anyone can give me the setting for forte? im noob for this sc, im using for FPS gaming, please need guide

also how exactly do you switch output between my headphones which are plugged into the headphone output and my speakers which are plugged into the analog output?

Bring up or enable the Audio Console or the Mixer. On either one, click on the Speakers and then the setting; "Optimize for Headphones."

If you have a powerful system, don't be afraid to install everything.

[ROBSCIX]

Again Rob, some folks are finding that even auto switchers that worked fine before are now causing the same problem. The errors are "Device Stopped working", "Device Already is use"--> by another app, "please shut down device "Device not responding" and etc............. Auto Mode switchers like Titanium Software not nothing for *some folks.

* means NOT all.

Well some have issue and some don't.

The point was if changin modes is a big deal for you use the mode switcher. When I tested it worked just fine.:yepp:

[redrumy3]

just bought a forte to replace my xfi xtreme gamer which died was the newer version low profile xtremegamer, always kept getting static and it died 4 days ago, so i was looking around and decided to go with forte cause i heard lots of people love it.

just hope i made a good decision, was going to get prelude but i wanted pci-e

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the forte will not disappoint you ;) :up:

[redrumy3]

the forte will not disappoint you ;) :up:

awesome :) should be here friday ^_^

[Donnie27]

awesome :) should be here friday ^_^

Please post your thoughts on it once you've installed and gotten a chance to use it?

[redrumy3]

Please post your thoughts on it once you've installed and gotten a chance to use it?

you got it :) always gaming and in leagues for css, so good sound is always needed so i will let you know how it is when i get it and use it and test it in css and l4d etc :)

[Donnie27]

you got it :) always gaming and in leagues for css, so good sound is always needed so i will let you know how it is when i get it and use it and test it in css and l4d etc :)

Cool, thanks!

[redrumy3]

well i really like forte, sound is much louder compared to my xtremegamer, my mic also sound alot clearer with tritton 5.1 headset. im not sure how this would compare to a prelude, but everything is so much better. haven't gotten dolby digital live to work yet, and only problem i have is the card is to long to fit in my top 2 slots on my ud3p board, so i have to put it in 2nd pci-e slot which is 8x and when i do this it make my 4870 run at 8x as well which really is not a big deal but its annoying

edit: nvm got it to fit on 2nd pci-e 1x on top really tight squeeze with all 4 stick and my ocz ram cooler had to be move slightly over but it fits!

so now gpu running full 16x and forte is in 1x pci-e slot :D

i have mic jumpers on balanced on forte as well. was set to stereo but i changed it to balanced, enable mic boost and its perfect not even loud like how xtremegamer would get with mic boost on :P

forte was worth the 130 i paid :D

[Donnie27]

well i really like forte, sound is much louder compared to my xtremegamer, my mic also sound alot clearer with tritton 5.1 headset. im not sure how this would compare to a prelude, but everything is so much better. haven't gotten dolby digital live to work yet, and only problem i have is the card is to long to fit in my top 2 slots on my ud3p board, so i have to put it in 2nd pci-e slot which is 8x and when i do this it make my 4870 run at 8x as well which really is not a big deal but its annoying

edit: nvm got it to fit on 2nd pci-e 1x on top really tight squeeze with all 4 stick and my ocz ram cooler had to be move slightly over but it fits!

so now gpu running full 16x and forte is in 1x pci-e slot :D

i have mic jumpers on balanced on forte as well. was set to stereo but i changed it to balanced, enable mic boost and its perfect not even loud like how xtremegamer would get with mic boost on :P

forte was worth the 130 i paid :D

Thanks for the review!:up:

[eSp!s0]

Hi,
which driver do you recommend for the Forte: the official one, or the Support Pack 2.0 from Daniel K?

[Godofwar424]

Hi,
which driver do you recommend for the Forte: the official one, or the Support Pack 2.0 from Daniel K?

Both use the same actual driver. Just the support pack uses creative software such as THX Console which isnt included in the Auzentech drivers. Also the support pack doesnt have Auzentech branded software on it. Id just go for the Auzentech ones as the support pack was only needed when the Auzentech ones didnt support Win7.

[eSp!s0]

Ok, thank you for that :)

[Godofwar424]

Ok, thank you for that :)

No Problem. Thats the whole point of this forum :D Helping others.

[Erklat]

So,when compared to Xonar D2X,which of them fits better into one of these categories:
games - X-Fi for sure
music -
movies -

?

[Michael_R.]

Both use the same actual driver. Just the support pack uses creative software such as THX Console which isnt included in the Auzentech drivers. Also the support pack doesnt have Auzentech branded software on it. Id just go for the Auzentech ones as the support pack was only needed when the Auzentech ones didnt support Win7.

Actually need it for base redirection.

I recently switched to Windows 7 Ultimate x64, now having the problem, that Stereo Surround isn´t working anymore.

Furthermore I have that annoying noise overlaying the standard sound quite often and I can´t find a solution to it?
Anyone here has a guess?

[Godofwar424]

Actually need it for base redirection.

I recently switched to Windows 7 Ultimate x64, now having the problem, that Stereo Surround isn´t working anymore.

Furthermore I have that annoying noise overlaying the standard sound quite often and I can´t find a solution to it?
Anyone here has a guess?

U still have bass redirection in the auzentech drivers. Go to Console Launcher then Bass (Game Mode) or Bass Settings (Entertainment Mode) then its there.

Also that overlapping is common problem with X-Fi Forte. I am getting it atm. Apparently these people found a solution

X-Fi Forte Interference Problem (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1456895)

[Michael_R.]

Yes the option is there but does not work without THX console.

Will take a look at the solution, thanks

[eSp!s0]

The card is here. It came with the latest 1.10 Driver on the CD. Now its installed but the driver make problems.
The AutoMode Switcher isn`t working in XP and Win 7 both. It doesn`t change the modus/mode automatically although I made all settings for it. I tried a few games and he should switch from entertainment modus into gaming modus when starting a game and back after quitting the game but nothing happens, it stays in entertainment modus all the time. I really would like to use it, because it`s very useful ;)
Does the volume panel has to run to get the AutoMode Switcher working? Or is it neccessary to have the Creative Licensing service running for it?
And sometimes, if I switch the mode or change something in the console, the whole sound goes completly away and I have to restart the computer to get it back. Restarting the service didn`t help me.
Btw I switched mic to balanced because I only saw people doing this here. I have Sennheiser PC151, was that right?

[ProStreetCamaro]

I just picked up the forte a couple days ago. I got it mainly due to the headphone amp. While it does sound very good I dont hear any difference over my old X-Fi platinum. I use audio technica AD700 headphones. The only difference I can tell is the amp makes sounds louder which means I have to turn the volume down lower than I used to. Other than that absolutely no difference to my ears.

[eSp!s0]

Yesterday I figured out, that my mic doesn`t work in entertainment mode allthough I used the same settings as in gaming mode where the mic is working, but very silent, that I had to enable mic boost + settings mic to 100%. Is that normal?

[Godofwar424]

I just picked up the forte a couple days ago. I got it mainly due to the headphone amp. While it does sound very good I dont hear any difference over my old X-Fi platinum. I use audio technica AD700 headphones. The only difference I can tell is the amp makes sounds louder which means I have to turn the volume down lower than I used to. Other than that absolutely no difference to my ears.

That is very strange. You should notice at least some different between them. Seeing as the Forte has a much higher SnR ratio and uses much higher quality components. I noticed a mega difference over my stock creative X-Fi.


But everyone is different, especially when it comes to how things sound.

[Donnie27]

That is very strange. You should notice at least some different between them. Seeing as the Forte has a much higher SnR ratio and uses much higher quality components. I noticed a mega difference over my stock creative X-Fi.


But everyone is different, especially when it comes to how things sound.

QFT!

Yet, I moved my Prelude downstairs to the Den where I listen to music more. I reinstalled my Creative Platinum in my Main Computer and don't seem have missed much at all or not that much of a fall off.

A friend was so impressed with my system that on his next visit he brought a friend who thought that all of the Hoop-Pla over Computer and Receiver was over rated. He brought him over to hear Games and Music on my system.

I played music in Stereo, demoed Crystalizer 33%, CMSS3D in 2.1 and then Headphones with Games. Then I put on Ep2 of Halflife 2, didn't even need a sweet spot in the room. Then to top it off they got "Smoke On The Water", "Hotel California" and Marvin's "Let's Get It On" all via 24bit/96Hz stereo being Amplified by a Harmon Kardon 730 (Decoupled straight to the amp BTW).

He was so impressed that they (he and his wife) went and bought a Killer system that easily puts mine to shame. Yes, hearing affects all of us differently. I've NEVER thought the older original Creative X-Fi sounded and I quote, "Horrible, Terrible, like crap, bad, like s#it and so on. I liked the Prelude better but never thought (so far none, not one of my friends) hear enough difference to complain about! But mine has never been connected to crappy Computer Multimedia Speakers.

[stuffme]

Finally moved from SupremeFX to X-Fi Forte. No turning back. Here are my firts thoughts http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4140689&postcount=16

[Erklat]

Which are good speakers to go with this card? I live in an apartment building and I believe HiFi setup is obsolete for me both due to my preferences and the fact I can't turn the music on loud because of the other tenants. My preferences are movies>games>music.

Are Z5500s any good to show at least some of the cards appeal?

thanks

[Donnie27]

Which are good speakers to go with this card? I live in an apartment building and I believe HiFi setup is obsolete for me both due to my preferences and the fact I can't turn the music on loud because of the other tenants. My preferences are movies>games>music.

Are Z5500s any good to show at least some of the cards appeal?

thanks

Good system don't need to be loud. In fact, many folks spend a lot of money to hear all of the sounds possible at moderate volume. Look for the speaker reviews where they talk more about Presence, Imaging and Soundstage. IMHO, Z5500 are good for Apartments because they have to be turned up to get the best out of them. I'd lean more towards cans and an Onkyo HTiB (Home Theater in a Box). Many can be had for less than the price of the Z5500, do some shopping!? JVC and even Samsung has some nice outfits as well.