Who can vouch for COOLER EXPRESS INTERNATIONAL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.?

[Jor3lBR]

I was wondering if anyone from the east could vouch for this company and it's reputation:

COOLER EXPRESS INTERNATIONAL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.
Bldg. B-1, No. 101, Lane 380, Kuanghua Rd., Taliao Township, Kaohsiung County, Taiwan 831
886-7-238-2366
886-7-787-6089
http://coolerexpress.com.tw

Thinking about dropping them $2,5K but first I need some feedback.

Thanks!

[Buckeye]

They have a wide range of equipment for sale. Are those cascades there at the botton ?

[[XC] gomeler]

Nobody here has bought a unit from them yet. We are all quite curious though, if you do go through with it then please report back.

[BenchZowner]

With that amount of money you can buy one of the very best units from one of the well-known and great "builders" here.

[Jor3lBR]

They have a wide range of equipment for sale. Are those cascades there at the botton ?

Yes those are the ones I want 2 or 3 compressors -100oC temps.


With that amount of money you can buy one of the very best units from one of the well-known and great "builders" here.

I dunno, first I don't want to wait 1 year, second if they can beat that $2K with same quality and dual or triple compressors I would go for it.

I'm talking about -100oC not SS.

What do you think?

[TheKarmakazi]

Yes those are the ones I want 2 or 3 compressors -100oC temps.



I dunno, first I don't want to wait 1 year, second if they can beat that $2K with same quality and dual or triple compressors I would go for it.

I'm talking about -100oC not SS.

What do you think?

I would find a local builder, but thats just me

[quintus]

Cascade for 2,5k dollars??? Hope it's a -150c cascade....

[ownage]

If you drop the word CoolerExpress people on XS go crazy. I made a thread about it once just for questions and it was removed in a no-time.
The experts say the quality is just bad and the company is not very reliable.

I think the only one on XS who can tell something about a CE product is someone from Overclex.net.
http://www.overclex.net/news/4140/%5BOCX%5D-Chiller-CoolerExpress@Home
I also believe I have spotted a SS unit from CE a while ago on there website.

[Jupiler]

Isn't that the company from Coolaler? He's a member here at XS but not active anymore for over 2 years.

If my memory serves me well, I remember that at the Cebit 2007 expo, he was there and I think he had one of those units with him.
I remember that he gave me a brochure with different phase change units from Coolerexpress.
I don't know if those units ever hit the market or are being sold.

[Moc]

lol, that is a fair price.
Here in Germany (not poland ;) ) a -100°C @ 300W cascade costs around 1800€.
It is a company and so you have warrenty, you can be sure that is leakfree and so on...
Also there are no explosive gasses in the unit. r508b is very expensiv!

[Ozzfest05]

ummm I think thats wrong they sell these at all kinds of places starting with
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=373&products_id=22128

I dont imagine quality being good please go with builder but its your call

[sdumper]

Are they made in Taiwan and shipped directly to buyers because thats a long way to ship without damage.

I would imagine a shipment from Taiwan might incur some damage along the way. And if it does who pays for shipping back to Taiwan for warranty service?

I wouldn't even slightly consider it....

[jasonelmore]

ummm I think thats wrong they sell these at all kinds of places starting with
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=373&products_id=22128

I dont imagine quality being good please go with builder but its your call

yep.. and crazypc.com

[ultralo1]

lol, that is a fair price.
Here in Germany (not poland ;) ) It is a company and so you have warrenty, you can be sure that is leakfree and so on...
Also there are no explosive gasses in the unit. r508b is very expensiv!

DOnt bet on it!
I have not purchased anything from them, I just have a lot of expierience in the refrigeration field. Just because it is a company does not mean that the unit will be better than a built one.

As for the warranty, do you have to ship it back to taiwan to get it repaired?
Do they have autorized warranty providers where you are?
What types of compressors do they have?
What gasses are in it? (not all the ones in taiwan can be purchased in the USA. 407D for example)
Are there any OEM parts on the unit? They break, can you retrofit something available in there?
Has the unit been optimized/tuned to a load or was the gas just dumped in?

I am not trying to suggest using a custom builder, I just wanted to give you somethings to think about. After all $2.5K is a lot of money.

[Buckeye]

With that amount of money you can buy one of the very best units from one of the well-known and great "builders" here.

Who in the US is actually building cascades anymore ?

[Jor3lBR]

Cascade for 2,5k dollars??? Hope it's a -150c cascade....

HUGE chunk of that is shipping...


Are they made in Taiwan and shipped directly to buyers because thats a long way to ship without damage.

I would imagine a shipment from Taiwan might incur some damage along the way. And if it does who pays for shipping back to Taiwan for warranty service?

I wouldn't even slightly consider it....

I don't know mate, thats tuff to answer but it's risky just like when I got my Cryo-Z from CC thru DHL.

I only asking to get someone from Taiwan that actually drives by this Company could report here about it.


DOnt bet on it!
I have not purchased anything from them, I just have a lot of expierience in the refrigeration field. Just because it is a company does not mean that the unit will be better than a built one.

As for the warranty, do you have to ship it back to taiwan to get it repaired?
Do they have autorized warranty providers where you are?
What types of compressors do they have?
What gasses are in it? (not all the ones in taiwan can be purchased in the USA. 407D for example)
Are there any OEM parts on the unit? They break, can you retrofit something available in there?
Has the unit been optimized/tuned to a load or was the gas just dumped in?

I am not trying to suggest using a custom builder, I just wanted to give you somethings to think about. After all $2.5K is a lot of money.

No probably just like OCZ Cryo-Z once you buy it you're on your own.

2.5K is a lot but thats about 40% shipping.


Who in the US is actually building cascades anymore ?

+1 Great point, I would like to see whos building those in less then 6 months here to discuss some ideias.

[Jor3lBR]

I'm waiting to see if they also build in 110v cause 220v is no good for USA...

[Moc]

DOnt bet on it!
I have not purchased anything from them, I just have a lot of expierience in the refrigeration field. Just because it is a company does not mean that the unit will be better than a built one.

As for the warranty, do you have to ship it back to taiwan to get it repaired?
Do they have autorized warranty providers where you are?
What types of compressors do they have?
What gasses are in it? (not all the ones in taiwan can be purchased in the USA. 407D for example)
Are there any OEM parts on the unit? They break, can you retrofit something available in there?
Has the unit been optimized/tuned to a load or was the gas just dumped in?

I am not trying to suggest using a custom builder, I just wanted to give you somethings to think about. After all $2.5K is a lot of money.

Hey!

I'm a builder too and I know that companys not always best...
What gasses are in? Look on their site: R507/508B.
About warrenty, shipping, compressor brand (see pictures... Embarco/Aspera or L'unite, if I see right) you can ask the company, also a good test if and how fast they answer via e-mail.

As i am a builder myself, I know that builders also do excellent work. But here @XS they blame units from a company but have also much problems with builders (see the section....) .
All I wanted to say is: Do not have prejudices.
The price is high but fair.

[[XC] gomeler]

Who in the US is actually building cascades anymore ?

Besides experimental and/or slowly assembled builds, I don't think anyone :shrug: Everyone who wants to build is too young and lacks capital and those who have the capital have busy jobs. A strange conundrum, eh :yepp:


I'm waiting to see if they also build in 110v cause 220v is no good for USA...

This was the first thing I noticed. You can get 220v 1ph in the US but it'll be 60Hz. Don't know if those compressors run on 50Hz or 60Hz, if it's 50Hz I suspect they won't particularly enjoy 60Hz, essentially overclocking them :shrug:

[piotres]

Some time ago I remember that one of XS users from Belgium have those unit from coolerexpress just for test (cascade) ...I don't remember his nick :( . You can use search engine to find it ...

He is also somethink but only ONE word ...

http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=2604


That build looks very familiar Pete.That is a brand new NL11F from Patrick.The condenser/shroud is not some half arsed cut down job,but part of a batch of six triple row condensers i imported from Drewmeister over in the states.The evap is not a chilly 1 at all,the complete lineset was recycled from a cooler express unit that arrived in the U.K. with a deceased compressor.



Regards
Peter

[ownage]

Unit from Coolaler:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114305

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/CoolerExpress%20SLI/1.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/CoolerExpress%20SLI/3HEAD.JPG

Any good?

[Buckeye]

gomeler;3594324']Besides experimental and/or slowly assembled builds, I don't think anyone :shrug: Everyone who wants to build is too young and lacks capital and those who have the capital have busy jobs. A strange conundrum, eh :yepp:


I know gomeler... I don't mind slow builds or some one lacking capital or even having another job, gezz everyone needs to support them selves some how.

It's hard enough finding Single Stage units and Cascades are just impossible.

Thats why we look at premanufactured units and cross our fingers and hope that they will work, either way those of us looking for these things are pretty much screwed.

If there was some one building Cascades I would be on that in a heart beat. But I am not really itching to get back into what happened with me before LOL !

[dinos22]

man if i had that kind of money i know that kayl here would do a killer job as he always does

i would also love one of those beauties from that Slovenian builder forgot his nick now......

not sure that would help anyone here

something about this COoler express company just seems amiss. We've seen them claim all sorts of things in specs before and it was laughed of here as impossible considering the parts and gasses used

[[XC] gomeler]

Unit from Coolaler:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114305

Any good?

The pictures don't say much and the heatload he applied is laughable compared to what we deal with now. X6800 compared to Core i7 965 is a joke :D

[Jor3lBR]

man if i had that kind of money i know that kayl here would do a killer job as he always does

i would also love one of those beauties from that Slovenian builder forgot his nick now......

not sure that would help anyone here

something about this COoler express company just seems amiss. We've seen them claim all sorts of things in specs before and it was laughed of here as impossible considering the parts and gasses used


Well if at least we had those guys here :-)

The Company seams to be around for long time know, I wish someone from Taiwan would come here to say something about them.


gomeler;3594488']The pictures don't say much and the heatload he applied is laughable compared to what we deal with now. X6800 compared to Core i7 965 is a joke :D

Yeah that one was an old build and probably not as good dimensioned as the ones I see one the website, they clame -100oC on their cascades now those pictures show -45oC.

[Ozzfest05]

its so far away though I would go with something closer so half your cost isnt shipping

[sdumper]

Who in the US is actually building cascades anymore ?

Several people I know are building 2 stagers right now in the US.

[sdumper]

gomeler;3594324']Besides experimental and/or slowly assembled builds, I don't think anyone :shrug: Everyone who wants to build is too young and lacks capital and those who have the capital have busy jobs. A strange conundrum, eh :yepp:



This was the first thing I noticed. You can get 220v 1ph in the US but it'll be 60Hz. Don't know if those compressors run on 50Hz or 60Hz, if it's 50Hz I suspect they won't particularly enjoy 60Hz, essentially overclocking them :shrug:

I thought both you and Teyber were currently building cascades or are those for your own use.

[[XC] gomeler]

I thought both you and Teyber were currently building cascades or are those for your own use.

I don't advertise that I build as I don't enjoy all the PMs. When I do build, it tends to be either for myself or for friends. As for what I'm piecing together right now, it's a 2 stager with an autocascade on the 1st stage. Just a fun toy for myself unless it performs well and someone wants it then :shrug:

edit: guess I should also say I'm a student and have precious little freetime. It can be seen in the repair of Jake's single-stage, once I had the starters it still took me 2 weeks to swap out compressors, swap filter/dryers, re-wire the thing, and tune it. What would normally take ~2 days of work took 3 weeks.

[teyber]

I would find a local builder, but thats just me

since there are so many local cascade builders in america hehe :down::shrug:

[teyber]

I thought both you and Teyber were currently building cascades or are those for your own use.
all ive done on my cascade you could have gotten a monkey to do it though :shrug:

[ultralo1]

R508B is not going to much load at -100C. You will be running 16 in of vacuum on that. Not much mass flow. I will be suprised if it works correctly.
L'unite comps are beyond hard to find in the US. They are hard to replace with another brand due to size and foot print constraints.
I personally would not drop that much money on some thing with embarco, aspera comps in them. The are generally made for the refrigerator industry, where the entire unit is to be thrown away.