Windows 7 - What's your experience index?

[KELL5]

Just noticed the windows experience index limit has been increased from 5.9 to 7.9

I score 5.3 (due to scabby hdd I used for test install)

7.4 for cpu though which is nice.

anyone else?

[SIOUX]

I i could find a Chipset INF driver that works, i would be happy to try :(

[rickvtv6]

:shocked:sorry to hijack this for a minute, but this is the only thread i could find regarding windows 7

i am using win7 beta 7000 ultimate x32, all my drivers seem to work though my hdd transfer rate has dropped (sits around 100mbps transferring drive to drive)

i think it is a major improvement from a xp/vista user and especially considering its still beta is rather impressive.

but the few problems i am having is the all too common xf-i drivers, there are none to support win7, it will not work in compatibility mode nor run as admin, i enabled the onboard sound on the 790i ultra and i was horrified at the quality, also i only had the two front channels instead of 5.1, i have tried fiddling with audio settings in control panel but no luck with 5.1?

and with the gaming side of it, has anyone using the o/s experienced problems with the installs of certain games?

if anyone has figured any of this out or can point me in the right direction that would be great!

hope yall enjoyed new years!

regards,
Rick.

[clokker]

Win 7 beta x64, build 7000...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/Win7.jpg

The only score that surprised me was the disk performance...it's running on a RAID0 array, but I figure they've made room for the superior access times of SSD's in the new scheme.

@Souix: What chipset do you have?

@rickvtv6: Drivers for my X-Fi Extreme music work fine in "Vista compatibility mode" but I only have headphones, so I can't verify surround sound performance.

[Papu]

Win 7 beta x64, build 7000...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/Win7.jpg

The only score that surprised me was the disk performance...it's running on a RAID0 array, but I figure they've made room for the superior access times of SSD's in the new scheme.

@Souix: What chipset do you have?

@rickvtv6: Drivers for my X-Fi Extreme music work fine in "Vista compatibility mode" but I only have headphones, so I can't verify surround sound performance.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/55419/rating.JPG
New Samsung Spinpoint 1tb

SS in win 7 isnt great , i can't get allot of options on the creative console so its worse than in vista.

[Garrett]

:shocked:sorry to hijack this for a minute, but this is the only thread i could find regarding windows 7

i am using win7 beta 7000 ultimate x32, all my drivers seem to work though my hdd transfer rate has dropped (sits around 100mbps transferring drive to drive)

i think it is a major improvement from a xp/vista user and especially considering its still beta is rather impressive.

but the few problems i am having is the all too common xf-i drivers, there are none to support win7, it will not work in compatibility mode nor run as admin, i enabled the onboard sound on the 790i ultra and i was horrified at the quality, also i only had the two front channels instead of 5.1, i have tried fiddling with audio settings in control panel but no luck with 5.1?

and with the gaming side of it, has anyone using the o/s experienced problems with the installs of certain games?

if anyone has figured any of this out or can point me in the right direction that would be great!

hope yall enjoyed new years!

regards,
Rick.
I have the X-Fi Gamer edition and the driver gave me trouble as well.
I downloaded the X-Fi Gamer edition Vista 64bit version from creative.com

When the download was finished I right-clicked the .exe and put compatibility mode to Vista and it installed flawlessly :)
The sound is perfect too, if you still have any trouble PM me, and then I can probably help you, hope this already helps :)

[Ubermann]

I i could find a Chipset INF driver that works, i would be happy to try :(

Dont know what chipset you have.
You can force intel inf to install with the parameters -overall -overide on setup.exe
Other chipset .exe you can try running in vista mode to make installer running.

For HD performance there are some settings in device manager and choose your HD and enable the write caching(?) that is disabled by default.

From what i heard this is the fastest OS for benching and i can belive that.

[safan80]

I have the X-Fi Gamer edition and the driver gave me trouble as well.
I downloaded the X-Fi Gamer edition Vista 64bit version from creative.com

When the download was finished I right-clicked the .exe and put compatibility mode to Vista and it installed flawlessly :)
The sound is perfect too, if you still have any trouble PM me, and then I can probably help you, hope this already helps :)

I'm using these drivers Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi series Driver 2.18.0008 and only 2 channels work in my W7 setup.


Dont know what chipset you have.
You can force intel inf to install with the parameters -overall -overide on setup.exe
Other chipset .exe you can try running in vista mode to make installer running.

For HD performance there are some settings in device manager and choose your HD and enable the write caching(?) that is disabled by default.

From what i heard this is the fastest OS for benching and i can belive that.


I used the intel 9.1.0.1012 drivers and I ran the install and it worked without needing compat mode.


here's my score... the hd bench is a joke... I have my windows 7 install on the first parition of my 2TB array...

[rickvtv6]

if i use compatibility mode on ANYTHING i get a stupid error 0x0000005 in a dialog box, if i try i manually in device manager, update driver, it finds the driver, starts installing it, then says the driver missing?

ok i figured it out, in the driver u d/l from crapative, i went into driver/sbxf/setup.exe it seemed to manually force the install and win7 showed the unsigned driver, clicked yes install and bam. i will try i out when i get back from work crossing fingers i will at least have 2.1 as i like my doof doof.

has anyone got 5.1 to work yet?

also where do u ppl finl ultimate x64 v7000 i could only find x32?

oh and my index rating is 7.3 - 5.5 - 6.5 - 5.9 - 3.0??? my hdd is 3.0? wtf! lol damn these benches

i just cant get over how fast it boots, no more waiting to load crap, its awesome.

[Kensek]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4027/95147244so9.jpg

[Ubermann]

I used the intel 9.1.0.1012 drivers and I ran the install and it worked without needing compat mode.

..

Yes it runs but it does not install anything, and it does not need comp mode.
Try the parameters and you will see it install alot of things, not just a sec with nothing and its done.

[safan80]

Yes it runs but it does not install anything, and it does not need comp mode.
Try the parameters and you will see it install alot of things, not just a sec with nothing and its done.

I got the drivers installed but I can't get 5.1 or 7.1 to work when I actually play music... it seems I'm not the only one
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=692688&st=45

[Ubermann]

Is there nothing to set in the "sound" in control panel ?
You can choose DTS etc and what channels to use there and lots of other things..

[Ubermann]

I got the drivers installed but I can't get 5.1 or 7.1 to work when I actually play music... it seems I'm not the only one
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=692688&st=45

I was talking about the intel inf installer..

[safan80]

I was talking about the intel inf installer..

I had no problem installing the intell chipset drivers.

[rickvtv6]

i wanna see someone with a ssd setup bench this mother! cant even imagine how fast the os would run on ssd setup, all i need is a winning lotto ticket! lmao

[rickvtv6]

well i finally got 5.1 working, i set up the xf-i drivers and then done the settings in the volume panel to what i want it then rebooted, went into sound settings control panel, highlight the sound blaster output then select configure at the bottom, from there you can set up 5.1 bla bla bla. it works cos i got my doof doof 15" working again :)

will they have dream scheme in win 7? i wish it would play personalized videos of your choice that would be potential.

good to see they extended the file types for movies in media player, still wont play .vob files tho :(

[KELL5]

will they have dream scheme in win 7? i wish it would play personalized videos of your choice that would be potential.

if you use windows movie maker to encode clips (or full movies) to 1080 HD then you can use them as dreamscenes. Right click them once encoded and the option to set as desktop background will be there.

:)

[rickvtv6]

if you use windows movie maker to encode clips (or full movies) to 1080 HD then you can use them as dreamscenes. Right click them once encoded and the option to set as desktop background will be there.

:)

are you serial? thats for win 7? i guess they thought that was the easy way?

[shawn1998]

If you got the Intel inf to install, can you check your device manager and see if you have a yellow ! next to System Interrupt Controller? I did. I ran Windows 7 X64 for 1 day and got rid of it as I couldn't play even 1 minute of Call of Duty WAW, as it would lock my entire system up.

[rickvtv6]

If you got the Intel inf to install, can you check your device manager and see if you have a yellow ! next to System Interrupt Controller? I did. I ran Windows 7 X64 for 1 day and got rid of it as I couldn't play even 1 minute of Call of Duty WAW, as it would lock my entire system up.

i never bothered installing any drivers apart from the xf-i driver (eventually got it to work) everything was already done once i installed all updates and rebooted. mind you im not happy with my hdd transfer dropping, when i installed my chipset driver in vista i deselected a setting in system properties and it boosted my transfer rate, now i cant do that with win7.

as for your gaming issues
thats weird win7 should be "optimized" for the i7 chips like vista was for the quads, did you do the updates once you installed windows?
it should have installed some pre-release 17x.xx drivers for your gtx like it did for my 98gx2's,
or maybe try disabling your xf-i or better yet remove it and use onboard to see if that corrects the gaming issues?

it is still beta so i wouldnt expect too much with gaming but im hoping it will work as thats my main use apart from movies and music.

i haven't tried gaming on it yet as im rebuilding a work comp but hopefully try it tonight with crysis and bioshock.
mind you it doesnt help when you go over your bandwidth and your d/l is 7kbps trying to update xp. :mad:

[HuffPCair]

mines crappy because of the hard drive i put it on all my good hard drives have something on it and i dont want to go buy one just for this so it is way down cause of that but all my other stuff is in the six area

[yaddam205]

I am curious to see what setup would get a perfect 7.9 across the board.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/3186307933_5c67c125f0_o.png

[rickvtv6]

I am curious to see what setup would get a perfect 7.9 across the board.


i think a descent ssd setup or RAM drive, 4870x2/gtx295 sli or the upcoming gtx350 Nvidia GeForce GTX 350 (Q4 2008) GT300-GPU 55nm PCI-E2.0 2GB GDDR5 512-bit
http://austin.net.au/ProductList/ProductDetail/tabid/104/ProductCode/GCGTX3502G/Default.aspx , 6gb 1800mhz ddr3 o.ced, i7 965 o.ced with a good mobo Asus Rampage II Extreme

if that dont break it then what will?

oh btw did you have to do much to get your q9550 to 4ghz? i can only seem to get around 3.8 without lockups

[inCore]

It would be nice if you guys without your specs in your signatures would list your components so that we others could compare results. :)

[Hoboclese]

you dont need super duper graphics card to max out that area cos mine said 7.9 in that area

hang on ill bench it now... back in 5

[Hoboclese]

damn me and my big mouth

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/3188159154_dfa6607145_o.png

hangs head in shame :(

[yaddam205]

i think a descent ssd setup or RAM drive, 4870x2/gtx295 sli or the upcoming gtx350 Nvidia GeForce GTX 350 (Q4 2008) GT300-GPU 55nm PCI-E2.0 2GB GDDR5 512-bit
http://austin.net.au/ProductList/ProductDetail/tabid/104/ProductCode/GCGTX3502G/Default.aspx , 6gb 1800mhz ddr3 o.ced, i7 965 o.ced with a good mobo Asus Rampage II Extreme

if that dont break it then what will?

oh btw did you have to do much to get your q9550 to 4ghz? i can only seem to get around 3.8 without lockups

I know what will; the all important 5.25 flux capacitor required for all Windows 7 machines.


4Ghz took little effort actually, once I had a good BIOS it was a cakewalk. What settings do you have on yours now?

[ElMoIsEviL]

if i use compatibility mode on ANYTHING i get a stupid error 0x0000005 in a dialog box, if i try i manually in device manager, update driver, it finds the driver, starts installing it, then says the driver missing?

ok i figured it out, in the driver u d/l from crapative, i went into driver/sbxf/setup.exe it seemed to manually force the install and win7 showed the unsigned driver, clicked yes install and bam. i will try i out when i get back from work crossing fingers i will at least have 2.1 as i like my doof doof.

has anyone got 5.1 to work yet?

also where do u ppl finl ultimate x64 v7000 i could only find x32?

oh and my index rating is 7.3 - 5.5 - 6.5 - 5.9 - 3.0??? my hdd is 3.0? wtf! lol damn these benches

i just cant get over how fast it boots, no more waiting to load crap, its awesome.

5.1 works in games but not CMSS-3D for general music up-mixing. Played CoD4 and 5.1 works flawlessly.

[rickvtv6]

I know what will; the all important 5.25 flux capacitor required for all Windows 7 machines.


4Ghz took little effort actually, once I had a good BIOS it was a cakewalk. What settings do you have on yours now?

go figure my quad sli setup scored 6.5 graphics, 5.9 for gaming? ppfft who needs windows benchmarks ne wayz :shakes:

5.25 flux capacitor- whats this about?

the best i got was 3.8ghz, could game, occasional lockups though, now i just got it at the bios 5%oc :up: cos i had probs installing vista agian then got hold of win7.
it would be good if my copy didnt have an error whenever used compatibility mode though.

have you played with gtlref voltages to get it there? i done my head in with them and gave up. plus i think i corrupted data through all the lockups a while ago.

[rickvtv6]

5.1 works in games but not CMSS-3D for general music up-mixing. Played CoD4 and 5.1 works flawlessly.

i got it woring but i think my xf-i card has pooed itself, it is sitting between 2 98gx2's that create alot of heat, basically b4 i went to win7 i had vista ult x64, and only about 3 weeks ago when i was playing a game it started making high pitch hissing sounds and popping then the sound would cut out all together then fade in and out especially when there was a loud sound like an explosion in crysis. creative care just gave me the usual bull.

but it works perfect with movies and music, just gaming?? maybe the xddr is crapped?

[rickvtv6]

ok so reinstalling the o.s. didnt do it, have tried both drivers incl .2008

i am considering goin to the asus xonar d2x ultra fidelity 7.1 pcie, that way its away from my vid cards and i will just have to get rid of my pcie tuner and find a good pci tuner card as i only have 1 pcie and 1 pci slot cos of those big brick gx2's (and thats about al they are lol)

so if a one can let me know what the xonar is like feel free.

ok i just discovered something, when in windows and playing music, if i scroll on any page eg IE scrolling up or down a page, it makes the same sound as in games, it crackles at the exact moment i scroll? wtf? then if i do it fast enough it slows the music down then cuts out, then audio resumes at a fast rate as if to catch up then goes back to normal? does anyone know if this is a sound card issue?

[crazy1323]

I am RMA'ing my Motherboard right now so I cannot post a screen shot of my score but I agree with others that the HD benchmark is not the best. I am running a Adaptec 51245 RAID controller (the card alone has a 1.2 GHz Dual core with 512MB of RAM) with three arrays:

1) 4 Seagate 7200.11 1.5TB drives in RAID 5
2) 4 Fujitsu MAX3147RC SAS (147GB 15,000 RPM's) in RAID 0
4) 4 30GB OCZ Core V2 SSD's in RAID 0

With vista installed on the either the SSD or the SAS array I cannot get a score over 6.5 so I do not know what it takes to get a score of 7.9 I have not tried installing on the RAID 5 array so maybe it takes size into account. Also, I installed it on a freshly formatted array both times. The SAS array only had a score of 6.0. Keep in mind this array is capable of 400 MB/sec writes and ~6ms access times

[fadetoblack]

only diffs from specs in sig are that cpu is stock at 3ghz, gpus are at stock and im running win7 x64 public beta off a wd 300gb velociraptor.

[KELL5]

I am RMA'ing my Motherboard right now so I cannot post a screen shot of my score but I agree with others that the HD benchmark is not the best. I am running a Adaptec 51245 RAID controller (the card alone has a 1.2 GHz Dual core with 512MB of RAM) with three arrays:

1) 4 Seagate 7200.11 1.5TB drives in RAID 5
2) 4 Fujitsu MAX3147RC SAS (147GB 15,000 RPM's) in RAID 0
4) 4 30GB OCZ Core V2 SSD's in RAID 0

With vista installed on the either the SSD or the SAS array I cannot get a score over 6.5 so I do not know what it takes to get a score of 7.9 I have not tried installing on the RAID 5 array so maybe it takes size into account. Also, I installed it on a freshly formatted array both times. The SAS array only had a score of 6.0. Keep in mind this array is capable of 400 MB/sec writes and ~6ms access times

A post I saw on another forum.....


I got a 2.9. Googled a bit, came across an explanation. Latency is a huge factor in 7's HD score, so if you have a raid 0, you get dinged if write caching is enabled. Disabled write caching and I scored 5.9.

Promptly re-enabled it though...

perhaps this is correct?

[rickvtv6]

what about one of those ram drives? aren't they supposed to be faster than a ssd? you obviously would be limited to space according to the controller (8gb 2gbx4??) iv'e got the saddest hdd bench here of 3.0, just a single seagate 40ns 1tb 32mb sata 2 spinnin away... so chins up!

i could always hook up a 40gb ata drive then ill be happy cos i got a higher score on my sata2 drive, and if i dont ill go hang myself and use my case for something to stand on instead of a chair. pmproflmfao!

[rickvtv6]

what is write caching? didnt do anything for mine :(

[DavCor]

My Acer Aspire One.
7 is snappy as balls on this little thing tho.

[rickvtv6]

My Acer Aspire One.
7 is snappy as balls on this little thing tho.

i got a old travelmate 2480 with vista ult x32, 1.8ghz celeron 2gb ddr2 50gb ata (with some bad sectors) it runs a bit sluggish but i will wait till win7 is out of beta before converting this little beast. should be better than what it is now though.

lmao imagine my ratings, would prob be 1.0 across the board!!

[rickvtv6]

has anyone had an issue with the system properties dialog box? mine keeps loading with windows so its open everytime i boot in? it didnt do it after the install though? its not in startup? any ideas?

[ex2cib]

My Acer Aspire One.
7 is snappy as balls on this little thing tho.

thats the first time i've seen the windows aero graphics score worse than the overall graphics score

[Baam]

Only 5.9 with a raptor hard drive.


http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5268/84886072hr1.png

[rickvtv6]

Only 5.9 with a raptor hard drive.


if thats just a single raptor then thats pretty good considering ppl with raid configs are around the same score, maybe i should get one of those? i never had a raid config but i cant really afford to get several identical drives to do it either so a single raptor sounds good.
are they fairly noisy when spinning up?

i got the same cpu score as u at 2.87ghz?

[Bobsama]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1504/86592532px1.png

That's on the 80GB hard drive--Western Digital Caviar 80GB (WD800BB)

[rickvtv6]

93124

well thats it.

[KELL5]

93124

well thats it.

yep, I reckon you should treat yourself to a nice new HDD :)

[NaMcO]

Here's my score with the signature system. RAID0 is made out of 2x WD 640 AAKS and Windows is on a 150GB partition. Rest of the disk is data storage.

http://www.allsinclair.com/gfx/w7score.png

[Andrew LB]

My dell XPS m1530 got a 5.2 because of poor memory scores.(ddr2-800). The top score was my G.Skill SSD which was @ 6.4. Not too shabby for a notebook.

[Warboy]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/Index.png

[rickvtv6]

yep, I reckon you should treat yourself to a nice new HDD :)

i just checked the price on the 300gb raptor, they are about $450 aussie bucks here! and $350 for the 150gb, thats an expensive small hdd, i would have to use my other drive for media as ive used over 300gb on my 1tb. would be nice though as its the slowest part in any system (especially mine!lol)

i just got my new pci hd tuner, and will be getting the asus d2x next week :)

[rickvtv6]

HA! i decided to install the chipset driver instead of just leaving it to whatever it auto installed, then disable command queuing and bam! i knew my 1tb ns had it in it!

maybe ill save my cash on that raptor for now...

93139

:up::clap::D

[Warboy]

Why don't you guys use the detailed WEI?

[KELL5]

Why don't you guys use the detailed WEI?

with winsat you can run the individual tests seperately, but it doesn't effect your WEI.

even if you use formal, it makes no difference.

I've been trying to find a way of making WEI use another HDD other than specified....but to no avail. Perhaps someone else has the answer?

[ewitte]

I'll be installing this on a G.SKILL 64GB SSD drive when it gets here.

[rickvtv6]

Why don't you guys use the detailed WEI?

how do you access it in 7?

[KELL5]

^^ open a cmd prmpt window under administator. (this also works for vista)

you can then use commands listed here http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770542.aspx to run individual tests.

For example...

winsat disk -seq -read -drive * (where * is replaced with drive letter you wanna test)

...... this will test the sequential read rate (in MB/s) of the desired HDD.

Makes no difference to your WEI though, since this would appear to have to run as a script but I'm not exactly sure.

[Warboy]

^^ open a cmd prmpt window under administator. (this also works for vista)

you can then use commands listed here http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770542.aspx to run individual tests.

For example...

winsat disk -seq -read -drive * (where * is replaced with drive letter you wanna test)

...... this will test the sequential read rate (in MB/s) of the desired HDD.

Makes no difference to your WEI though, since this would appear to have to run as a script but I'm not exactly sure.

That's not it, just look at my pic. Basically do your tests in normal WEI, Then click Print, and don't pick a printer. It will show what my pic shows.

[jcool]

What nobody got to 7.9 yet? Not even 7? Seems to be something wrong with the benching scheme then. I think I'd get a 7.9 on CPU/Ram and maybe GFX.. HDD not so much, it's just an ordinary VR cause I had to send back my SSDs due to some issues I was having :(

[Baam]

Got the gaming graphics a little higher with different drivers.


http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/Rexxigg_2009/Capture.png

[orangekiwii]

i have no issues with drivers and windows 7 yet... COMPATIBILITY MODE FTW!!!

As for the experience... i get 5.9

7.5 processor (q9550)

5.9 ram - 4 gb 1066 mhz

7.9 aero - 8800 gts 640

5.9 3d graphics - 8800 gts 640

5.9 hard drive - 320 gb 7200.11 seagate barracuda


I'm quite surprised at my ram rating and my hdd rating... ram I have RIDICULOUSLY low timings... like 4 3 3 10 on 1066 mhz :) so i'm not sure it actually does any tests on ram performance

on HDD... I get well over 100 mb/s read and write average so i'd think i'd get a higher score than people with slower 1 tb drivers.... so this literally just goes to show this rating system is RETARDED

[rickvtv6]

i have no issues with drivers and windows 7 yet... COMPATIBILITY MODE FTW!!!

As for the experience... i get 5.9

7.5 processor (q9550)

5.9 ram - 4 gb 1066 mhz

7.9 aero - 8800 gts 640

5.9 3d graphics - 8800 gts 640

5.9 hard drive - 320 gb 7200.11 seagate barracuda


I'm quite surprised at my ram rating and my hdd rating... ram I have RIDICULOUSLY low timings... like 4 3 3 10 on 1066 mhz :) so i'm not sure it actually does any tests on ram performance

on HDD... I get well over 100 mb/s read and write average so i'd think i'd get a higher score than people with slower 1 tb drivers.... so this literally just goes to show this rating system is RETARDED

theres nothing wrong with a single 1tb drive, see my rating, see my sustained read? ive seen cheap 1tb drives do better than mine and mine is not a cheap drive.

as for ram, you gotta rememer windows 7 is to overtake vista, there is no sp2 (as far as ive read) due for vista as this is to take ova. my ddr3 super talent (same chips as the corsair's 1800mhz) is at stock spec 1800mhz 8-8-8-24 t2 2x2gb and it gets 5.5, look at the new x58 boards, they have tripple channel ddr3 and ddr3 is at 2000mhz now thats a realistic value of 1000mhz, mine is 900, yours is 533mhz. so remember that they have included the latest and greatest technology to be slammed into windows 7 like ram drives and ssd drives, tri, quad sli and crossfire setups (some new x58's support both sli and xfire which is awsome to see!) they have simply made room for future upcoming technology unlike vista that didnt take much effort to max out at 5.9 wei.

93178

so dont expect life in the seventh window to be so sleazy.

just my 7 cents.:up:

[KELL5]

on HDD... I get well over 100 mb/s read and write average so i'd think i'd get a higher score than people with slower 1 tb drivers.... so this literally just goes to show this rating system is RETARDED


yeah man you're right, everyone who scores a 5.9 in vista should automatically get 7.9 in 7 :rolleyes:

[rickvtv6]

the other thing i dont get with wei is that i have a quad sli setup, (basically 4 cards,2 cards on one pci-e slot in a metal housing) but windows will onky recognize 1279 or 512mb? shouldnt it be approx 2048 or it still only recognizes 1 card? i think its funny that nvidia rate the gtx280 and 9800gx2 the same gaming performance, just about every reveiew i read the gtx280 was ripping the gx2 a new 'a' hole, but is it true drivers are still not working with windows and software as they should or are they just pulling on there willies hoping for the best?

should i be running a psu greater than 850watt with the gear in my sig also with leadtek hdtv tuner, 6 case fans and the asus xonar d2x instead of the xfi listed? i seem to have alot of probs o.cing especially with win7 and the new p08 bios??

[orangekiwii]

I don't really care either way I think all this just proves that WEI doesn't really mean anything :)

individual benchmark scores tell a lot more but since most of the population doesn't know what that is, WEI will do :)

[rickvtv6]

im surprised they didnt make a community ranking to see what other ppl have got with showing the setups like futuremark's benching tools. that would be good to see then you could get an idea on what would get 7.9 across the spectrum.

wei has simply made more room and tolerance for ppl with alot of money down the track :-?

[rge]

Mine with single intel SSD x25m. My graphics score is low as only 1 ultra, probably need crossfire/sli with modern gpu for highest score. I have not had any problems with drivers on windows 7 yet either. Got 5.1 surround sound to work on my XiFi gamer, installed drivers using vista compatibility mode..then used creative panel to designate speakers front vs side, etc..had to unplug speakers and plug in one at time then click side for side speaker, etc.... then used windows control panel sound to set up as 5.1 using configure. But initially only 2 of my speakers worked, windows doesnt seem to do it correctly on its own.

[STi489]

7.7 here but uninstalled windows 7 because couldn't find activation loader....so no screenshot:(

[rickvtv6]

man thats some impressive scores! i remember saying something about ssd drives becoming the way of the future as i heard 1tb drives are soo big and slow? lol

rge: if your i7 is at 4.2ghz i wonder what speed it would need to hit 7.9? also, how much RAM have you installed on your setup?

[Warboy]

Mine with single intel SSD x25m. My graphics score is low as only 1 ultra, probably need crossfire/sli with modern gpu for highest score. I have not had any problems with drivers on windows 7 yet either. Got 5.1 surround sound to work on my XiFi gamer, installed drivers using vista compatibility mode..then used creative panel to designate speakers front vs side, etc..had to unplug speakers and plug in one at time then click side for side speaker, etc.... then used windows control panel sound to set up as 5.1 using configure. But initially only 2 of my speakers worked, windows doesnt seem to do it correctly on its own.


Why does yours look different then everyone else's?

[rickvtv6]

Why does yours look different then everyone else's?

if you look at Hoboclese post on page 2 it looks like the same sort of select and screenshot typa thing, but that shot deff looks different, bolder text, colour is enriched way too much to the point it is flooding the curves of pictures and text so its not so fine, even the grey in the background is way too dark, i cant even get mine to that affect using nvidia control panel?

[rge]

Anyone with core i7 at 4.2ghz will get similar processor score. EDIT: in fact cpu OC is nearly irrelevant. AT 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.44 I get 7.7 for processor score. AT stock 2.93 I get 7.4, at 3.5 I get 7.5. The processor benchmark is as worthless as the memory one. Next time I am benching at 4.6 in cold running arena chess, I will try that, at best it will be 7.8. I guess you need a core i7 at 5+ for 7.9, or maybe 7.9 is for skulltrail.

With 3gb mem I get 5.5 score for memory, whether mem is at 1600 8,8,8 or 2000 8,8,8. With 6b at 1600mhz 8,8,8 I get 7.9 score. Weight seems to be on amount of RAM only, useless benchmark if you ask me.

Desktop performance is mix of processor/gpu, primarily cpu I think.

Gaming low because I have single gpu. With top line multi gpu would get 7.9.

Intel SSD gets 7.1 in disk performance, just like anyone with similar SSD would. Weight is primarily on access time, write speed irrelevant as I can cripple write speed by disabling cache and get same score. Again useless benchmark, imo.

For wargamer, I reran and took full size pics. The previous pic, like all my pics has been resized to 80% (being polite and using less bandwidth, but makes text blurry) and autoprocess to clear text back up. Attached is straight pics. I can understand being suspicious of benchmarks that are ridiculously high or dont make sense, but mine is neither. Unless you are just complaining of my pic quality, in which case you have way too much time.

[rickvtv6]

Anyone with core i7 at 4.2ghz will get similar processor score. EDIT: in fact cpu OC is nearly irrelevant. AT 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.44 I get 7.7 for processor score. AT stock 2.93 I get 7.4, at 3.5 I get 7.5. The processor benchmark is as worthless as the memory one. Next time I am benching at 4.6 in cold running arena chess, I will try that, at best it will be 7.8. I guess you need a core i7 at 5+ for 7.9, or maybe 7.9 is for skulltrail.

With 3gb mem I get 5.5 score for memory, whether mem is at 1600 8,8,8 or 2000 8,8,8. With 6b at 1600mhz 8,8,8 I get 7.9 score. Weight seems to be on amount of RAM only, useless benchmark if you ask me.

Desktop performance is mix of processor/gpu, primarily cpu I think.

Gaming low because I have single gpu. With top line multi gpu would get 7.9.

Intel SSD gets 7.1 in disk performance, just like anyone with similar SSD would. Weight is primarily on access time, write speed irrelevant as I can cripple write speed by disabling cache and get same score. Again useless benchmark, imo.

For wargamer, I reran and took full size pics. The previous pic, like all my pics has been resized to 80% (being polite and using less bandwidth, but makes text blurry) and autoprocess to clear text back up. Attached is straight pics. I can understand being suspicious of benchmarks that are ridiculously high or dont make sense, but mine is neither. Unless you are just complaining of my pic quality, in which case you have way too much time.

maybe the i7 965 o.ced would be able to do it?? shouldnt they show 8 cores for the i7 or it doesnt recognize the hyper threads and only the 4 realistic cores?

i dont have a picture editor so i cant really resize my pics as i only use my laptop for net surfing.

they deff made way for the triple channel ddr3 then if 6gb gets you 7.9

how is it you have over 2500mb of graphics mem? i have quad sli and it only shows around 1200mb?

still thats some nice scores!

[rge]

i7 have 4 cores and 8 threads. All software specifying cores should say 4 and if specifying threads should say 8.

WEI is reading graphics memory based on my ultra 8800 (768) and shared system memory from my ram, ie more ram, the higher WEI "graphics memory"...dont ask me why.

Though a screwy benchmark, it does point out my weakest point correctly, but I am probably going to hold on to my ultra until last quarter of this year to see what new comes out...nothing out there really makes me want to upgrade.

[ewitte]

5.9

Processor 7.5 - Q9550 @ 3.8Ghz
Memory 5.9 - 4GB stock or below DDR2-667
Graphics 7.9 - 8800GTX
Gaming 6.0 - 8800GTX
Primary Hard drive 6.3 - G.SKILL 64GB SSD

[rickvtv6]

i7 have 4 cores and 8 threads. All software specifying cores should say 4 and if specifying threads should say 8.

WEI is reading graphics memory based on my ultra 8800 (768) and shared system memory from my ram, ie more ram, the higher WEI "graphics memory"...dont ask me why.

Though a screwy benchmark, it does point out my weakest point correctly, but I am probably going to hold on to my ultra until last quarter of this year to see what new comes out...nothing out there really makes me want to upgrade.

there is the gtx295 or just wait for the upcoming gtx350, if specs are right it will whoop ass. and by the looks of the setup your spinnin price wont be an issue? id expect the gtx350 to be over $1000aud as the gtx295 is just under that here now. :up:

[Warboy]

I get Gaming 6.0 with my GTX 280 FTW thats the same as a 8800GTX posted above, Wth?

[ewitte]

I get Gaming 6.0 with my GTX 280 FTW thats the same as a 8800GTX posted above, Wth?

IDK but one of the reasons I don't upgrade my card is I see less than 20% increase in most benchmarks.

[rickvtv6]

i still think the gtx350 will be worth it or at least wait a while till the price drops after its release, but then there will be something bigger and better. i.t. industry is a never winning situation. thats the reason im in the mechanical industry instead of i.t.

mind you, you can have the latest and greatest grfx cards in the world, but it comes down to the o/s, drivers and software to take full advantage of the hardware, like my situation, i had money when the 98gx2 came out, i got 2 of them, then about a month later the gtx280 / 260 was released, i felt like i had wasted $1200aud on brick heaters, and a single gtx280 kicks its ass which is really disappointing. :banana::banana::banana::banana: happens i guess.

[Warboy]

IDK but one of the reasons I don't upgrade my card is I see less than 20% increase in most benchmarks.

I went from 15xxx to 22xxx with my upgrades, So whats your point about seeing less then 20% increase?

My GTX 280 outperforms my 8800GTX OC2 in SLI. That I sold. lol.

[ewitte]

I went from 15xxx to 22xxx with my upgrades, So whats your point about seeing less then 20% increase?

My GTX 280 outperforms my 8800GTX OC2 in SLI. That I sold. lol.

I just dont' feel the small performance increase is worth it. Not unless there is a 2-3 times improvement in almost everything. A card thats 2 years newer SHOULD be much faster not just 20-50%.

[Bootup05]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9121/indexkd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[STi489]

man thats some impressive scores! i remember saying something about ssd drives becoming the way of the future as i heard 1tb drives are soo big and slow? lol

rge: if your i7 is at 4.2ghz i wonder what speed it would need to hit 7.9? also, how much RAM have you installed on your setup?

6gb 1600mhz

My hdtune burst rate in windows 7 is 1000 more than vista.

[Zeus]

This really requires a quadcore and a lot of memory!

[kevikev]

Version: Build 7000 x64
EIS: 4.3
Whitebox: HP xw6600
CPU: E5410 2.33GHz (7.1)
RAM: 8x2GB DDR2-667 FBDIMM (7.1)
HDD: 1x300GB VelociRaptor (5.9)
GPU: eVGA 7300GT (4.7/4.3)

[rickvtv6]

Version: Build 7000 x64
EIS: 4.3
Whitebox: HP xw6600
CPU: E5410 2.33GHz (7.1)
RAM: 8x2GB DDR2-667 FBDIMM (7.1)
HDD: 1x300GB VelociRaptor (5.9)
GPU: eVGA 7300GT (4.7/4.3)

youve got 16gb ddr2 667?

as for win7 needing a qaud core and lots of memory, to max out the benchmark yes, but they designed win7 to use less resources than vista, and if i can run vista on a old acer travelmate 2480 1.73ghz celeron m 2gb ram then i think it will have alot of flexibility for older systems

i still wanna see a cpu of 7.9....common ppl!! lol

[rickvtv6]

i managed to get an extra .1 point for gaming graphics by using the classic theme and disabling visual affects! now my whole system will run faster! lol

i wonder how much of an improvement other ppl will get by doing the same?

i think even if i o.c. to 4ghz i wont see any more than 7.5 if im lucky for cpu.

[ewitte]

I went from 15xxx to 22xxx with my upgrades, So whats your point about seeing less then 20% increase?

My GTX 280 outperforms my 8800GTX OC2 in SLI. That I sold. lol.

Lol I think you have to have a Dual newer cards. I'm still getting 6.0 and I upgraded to a GTX 285 OC.

[rickvtv6]

there we go 4.00ghz scored me a 7.5 for cpu, im satisfied with that...for now, i wonder if a can hit 4.22 like my old e8400, check out my cpu voltage tho, i had to increase it a bit, 3.5 was about the best i could do at the stock 1.25v im quite impressed considering all other volts are set to auto apart from forcing the ddr3 to 1.90v

93461

:up:

[Firestrider]

All my clocks are stock.

Here's the raw numbers:



- <WinSPR>
<SystemScore>5.9</SystemScore>
<MemoryScore>5.9</MemoryScore>
<CpuScore>7.2</CpuScore>
<CPUSubAggScore>6.8</CPUSubAggScore>
<VideoEncodeScore>7.1</VideoEncodeScore>
<GraphicsScore>7.9</GraphicsScore>
<Dx9SubScore>6</Dx9SubScore>
<Dx10SubScore>6.5</Dx10SubScore>
<GamingScore>6.5</GamingScore>
<StdDefPlaybackScore>TRUE</StdDefPlaybackScore>
<HighDefPlaybackScore>TRUE</HighDefPlaybackScore>
<DiskScore>5.9</DiskScore>
- <LimitsApplied>
- <MemoryScore>
<LimitApplied Friendly="Physical memory available to the OS is less than 4.0GB on 64-bit OS - limit mem score to 5.9" Relation="LT">4294967296</LimitApplied>
</MemoryScore>
</LimitsApplied>
</WinSPR>
- <Metrics>
- <CPUMetrics>
<CompressionMetric units="MB/s">256.00941</CompressionMetric>
<EncryptionMetric units="MB/s">135.23427</EncryptionMetric>
<CPUCompression2Metric units="MB/s">502.33175</CPUCompression2Metric>
<Encryption2Metric units="MB/s">1024.63266</Encryption2Metric>
<CompressionMetricUP units="MB/s">63.24123</CompressionMetricUP>
<EncryptionMetricUP units="MB/s">33.69238</EncryptionMetricUP>
<CPUCompression2MetricUP units="MB/s">125.40216</CPUCompression2MetricUP>
<Encryption2MetricUP units="MB/s">256.93234</Encryption2MetricUP>
<DshowEncodeTime units="s">3.34586</DshowEncodeTime>
</CPUMetrics>
- <MemoryMetrics>
<Bandwidth units="MB/s">10640.02203</Bandwidth>
</MemoryMetrics>
- <GamingMetrics>
<BatchFps DXVersion="9" units="F/s" score="6.0">940.91998</BatchFps>
<AlphaFps DXVersion="9" units="F/s" score="6.0">938.28998</AlphaFps>
<TexFps DXVersion="9" units="F/s" score="6.0">313.82999</TexFps>
<ALUFps DXVersion="9" units="F/s" score="6.0">383.70001</ALUFps>
<BatchFps DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.9">928.29999</BatchFps>
<AlphaFps DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="5.9">914.48999</AlphaFps>
<TexFps DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.6">300.28000</TexFps>
<ALUFps DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="5.3">332.01001</ALUFps>
<GeomF4 DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.5">38.08000</GeomF4>
<GeomF27 DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.9">61.70000</GeomF27>
<GeomV8 DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.8">98.05000</GeomV8>
<GeomV32 DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.8">40.93000</GeomV32>
<CBuffer DXVersion="10" units="F/s" score="6.9">628.34003</CBuffer>
</GamingMetrics>
- <GraphicsMetrics>
<DWMFps units="F/s">470.77100</DWMFps>
<VideoMemBandwidth units="MB/s">24911.70000</VideoMemBandwidth>
<MFVideoDecodeDur units="s">1.19580</MFVideoDecodeDur>
</GraphicsMetrics>
- <VideoDecodeMetrics>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="1920" Height="1080" ExpectedFrameCount="300">287</DecodeFrameCount>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="1920" Height="1080" ExpectedFrameCount="150">151</DecodeFrameCount>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="720" Height="480" ExpectedFrameCount="300">293</DecodeFrameCount>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="720" Height="480" ExpectedFrameCount="150">147</DecodeFrameCount>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="1920" Height="1080" ExpectedFrameCount="150">151</DecodeFrameCount>
<DecodeFrameCount Width="720" Height="480" ExpectedFrameCount="300">151</DecodeFrameCount>
</VideoDecodeMetrics>
- <DiskMetrics>
<AvgThroughput kind="Sequential Read" units="MB/s" ioSize="65536" score="6.4">91.16500</AvgThroughput>
<AvgThroughput kind="Random Read" units="MB/s" ioSize="16384" score="3.4">1.38000</AvgThroughput>
<MeanLatency Kind="Read With Sequential Background Writes" units="us" score="5.8">5679</MeanLatency>
<MaxLatency Kind="Read With Background Writes" units="us" percentile="95" score="5.4">12474</MaxLatency>
<MaxLatency Kind="Read With Background Writes" units="us" percentile="100" score="7.8">65433</MaxLatency>
<MeanLatency Kind="Read With Random Background Writes" units="us" score="5.8">5499</MeanLatency>
</DiskMetrics>

[doakh]

Here it is

[VVJ]

Windows7 Perf index is the crappiest benchmark score I've ever seen! I overclocked my Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600MHz up to ~3200MHz and got the same index 5.8 for the CPU. LOL! :ROTF:

[rickvtv6]

Windows7 Perf index is the crappiest benchmark score I've ever seen! I overclocked my Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600MHz up to ~3200MHz and got the same index 5.8 for the CPU. LOL! :ROTF:

if you look at my screen shot i score 7.5 with my q9550 @4ghz, at stock 2.83ghz it gets 7.3.

there are a couple lucky ppl on this thread with intels new i7 chipsets, mildly overclocked that are just about at 7.9, put 2 and 2 together and you get 4 but the point is that its got better and newer cpu's in mind for the benchmark side of win7 so you cant max out the cpu with something as brilliant as an intel e2140 pentium d/core or 2gb of ddr2 667 or a nvidia 7600gs :ROTF:

get what im sayin? it wil take the latest and greatest and maybe thensome to tie this snake in a knot.

:up:

[Richard Dower]

I get 6.0 with gaming and HDD being the lowest.... :rolleyes:
This new rating system blows, seems geared toward SSD and future GPU's...hell even Quad SLI ain't getting 7.9 :rolleyes:
I have two 74GB VelociRaptors in RAID 0 and only get 6.0?????????...i think this new ratings system is designed to last for a few hardware cycles and not to be rendered obsolete or maxed out by the next gen card or HDD...

[Richard Dower]

I think the iCore 7's are doing well as it must be related to calculations per second etc. and the fact it's 8-core multithreaded. My memory is 1100MHz, but i bet if had had 6GB or 8GB installed the score would go up.

[Firestrider]

Can you guys post your raw metrics?

Like I know my memory bandwidth is 10.6 GB/s, and if it wasn't for the

<LimitApplied Friendly="Physical memory available to the OS is less than 4.0GB on 64-bit OS - limit mem score to 5.9" Relation="LT">4294967296</LimitApplied>

I would probably have higher.

[rickvtv6]

I get 6.0 with gaming and HDD being the lowest.... :rolleyes:
This new rating system blows, seems geared toward SSD and future GPU's...hell even Quad SLI ain't getting 7.9 :rolleyes:
I have two 74GB VelociRaptors in RAID 0 and only get 6.0?????????...i think this new ratings system is designed to last for a few hardware cycles and not to be rendered obsolete or maxed out by the next gen card or HDD...

JESUS! what have i been trying to say here about future designing!? :ROTF::ROTF: thankyou for repointing this out maybe other ppl will realize your post more than mine(s) and think..hey that persons right thats why i cant max out this bench with a 486dx2/66 (but its overclocked!)?????:rofl:

quad sli from my experience was a huge waste of dough, if i knew the gtx series was soo close at the time i would have waited. i was surprised i hit 6 to be honest.:shakes:

howd u get a high score with 4gb ram? i got 5.5?? i really need 6gb cos i got the quad sli which is total of 2gb vddr3 it leaves me with 2gb, then 1gb for Win7 and 1gb or less for gaiming then its relying on my crappy scoring big 1tb 7000rpm page file lol

[rickvtv6]

Can you guys post your raw metrics?

Like I know my memory bandwidth is 10.6 GB/s, and if it wasn't for the

<LimitApplied Friendly="Physical memory available to the OS is less than 4.0GB on 64-bit OS - limit mem score to 5.9" Relation="LT">4294967296</LimitApplied>

I would probably have higher.

how do yo do that?

[KELL5]

JESUS! what have i been trying to say here about future designing!? :ROTF::ROTF: thankyou for repointing this out maybe other ppl will realize your post more than mine(s) and think..hey that persons right thats why i cant max out this bench with a 486dx2/66 (but its overclocked!)?????:rofl:

so true lol

[rge]

6 gb of DDR 3 running at my stock 1600 = 7.9. 3 gb ddr3 at 2000mhz 8,8,8,21 = 6. Speed is secondary to amount.
HDD score is going off access times, so SSD or low score. Probably need OS on ram to get 7.9.
gaming graphics pcie 2 and dual gpu minimum.

It it just scanning for new tech, not necessarily speed of hardware.

[Firestrider]

how do yo do that?

C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore\

Then go to your most recent Formal.Assessment

[ewitte]

Lol my memory score went up a lot just going from 4GB to 8GB with the same settings

CPU - 7.5
Mem - 7.5
Graphics - 7.9
Gaming - 6.0
Primary HDD - 6.8

Current hardware nowhere near tweaked yet
Q9550 @ 3.8Ghz
8GB 448 * 2 CAS5
BFG GTX 285 OC @ OCX settings
2 * GSkill SSD 64GB Motherboard Raid0

[Firestrider]

Lol my memory score went up a lot just going from 4GB to 8GB with the same settings

CPU - 7.5
Mem - 7.5
Graphics - 7.9
Gaming - 6.0
Primary HDD - 6.8

Current hardware nowhere near tweaked yet
Q9550 @ 3.8Ghz
8GB 448 * 2 CAS5
BFG GTX 285 OC @ GTX settings
2 * GSkill SSD 64GB Motherboard Raid0

Are you using the WDDM 1.1 graphics driver? I think the score is limited to 6.0 if you don't. Also can you post your metrics?

[Shocker003]

Does someone know how to get the Creative X-FI Extreme Audio pci-e, to function normal, in Windows 7 64bit. Am at wits end trying to figure it out and i can´t get ati 8.12 driver to uninstall.
My system is AMD 4400+EE, Asus 780g HDMI and 2Gb OCZ crossfire ram. It´s my mediacenter pc and am using onboard graphics. Any help will be highly welcomed and thanks in advance.

I can´t get any of my sound cards features, it´s console has only the mixer on it and the others are missing.

[ewitte]

Are you using the WDDM 1.1 graphics driver? I think the score is limited to 6.0 if you don't. Also can you post your metrics?

I'll check on there all I know is 181.22.

EDIT Nvidia says to get the Windows 7 drivers from windows update. I installed the newest Vista x64 drivers. My guess is that it is running a WDDM 1.0 driver. Wondered why it wasn't any faster with the new card ;)

[Martijn]

I'll check on there all I know is 181.22.

EDIT Nvidia says to get the Windows 7 drivers from windows update. I installed the newest Vista x64 drivers. My guess is that it is running a WDDM 1.0 driver. Wondered why it wasn't any faster with the new card ;)

I have got 181.22 here as well, but my GTX280 gets 6.5 points. Surely a 285 should be better right?

[Richard Dower]

OK, this is weird...when i ran my experience index i got 7.3 on the memory, then i installed my X-Fi drivers...and the score dropped to 5.5??....like, what the hell?

[ewitte]

I have got 181.22 here as well, but my GTX280 gets 6.5 points. Surely a 285 should be better right?

The whole test is screwy. I got 6.0 as well with the 8800GTX. Its been formatted several times this week so its not lingering drivers. FPS in games and 3dmark are correct. Not to mention the huge jump in the memory score with the same settings and 8GB vs 4GB.

[KELL5]

think like this....

Say I had 2GB of DDR2-800 and was marked accordingly.

Now, say I go buy 2x 128MB dimms of custom made DDR2-1200 then I use LN2 to cool the sticks and force them to DDR2-1800 with timings of 4,4,4,1,1t in dual channel mode.

Do you now think vista will score me 7.9 on memory simply because my memory is super duper fast?

Ofcourse not, apperature has to play a role. Speed is not the only factor.

[rickvtv6]

think like this....

Say I had 2GB of DDR2-800 and was marked accordingly.

Now, say I go buy 2x 128MB dimms of custom made DDR2-1200 then I use LN2 to cool the sticks and force them to DDR2-1800 with timings of 4,4,4,1,1t in dual channel mode.

Do you now think vista will score me 7.9 on memory simply because my memory is super duper fast?

Ofcourse not, apperature has to play a role. Speed is not the only factor.

:clap::clap::clap:

ill let you take over, its your turn to start repeating. lmao

[rickvtv6]

Does someone know how to get the Creative X-FI Extreme Audio pci-e, to function normal, in Windows 7 64bit. Am at wits end trying to figure it out and i can´t get ati 8.12 driver to uninstall.
My system is AMD 4400+EE, Asus 780g HDMI and 2Gb OCZ crossfire ram. It´s my mediacenter pc and am using onboard graphics. Any help will be highly welcomed and thanks in advance.

I can´t get any of my sound cards features, it´s console has only the mixer on it and the others are missing.

have you got the latest driver to install correctly? i got rid of my xfi platinum last week cos it keeps playing up, i think its the sound processor or the xram but creative support are convinced they dont have issues, pppffft now im just waiting on my asus d2x to come in!
i did get the console and drivers working in 32bit though so i might just be able to help you out if you havnt already figured?

[HuffPCair]

Ok so I am debating on switching all the way over to win 7 from Vista. So I am going to ask you guys what you think. Should I now or just wait for final release???

[ewitte]

Logmein doesn't work
IE8 is crap

I had at least 1 more issue but can't remember what it is off the top of my head. On the plus side its extremely fast but I switched over to SSD at the same time and never ran Vista on them so its hard to tell.

[HuffPCair]

Well I dont use IE and or Logmein hell I dont even know what that is lol.

But I just cant decide if I should go fully over to it or not I took it off my computer dual booting cause it was on a crap HDD. So just having a hard time since I havent messed with it much

[KoolDrew]

Here's mine running x64.

[clokker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/9550ie2.png

Q9550 @ 3.75GHz/1.275v

4 x 2GB G.Skill DDR2 PC1000

Gigabyte GA-P45-UD3R

3 x 250 Seatgate SATA2 in RAID0/ 2 x 1TB Seagate SATA2

eVGA 8800GT.

[rickvtv6]

Well I dont use IE and or Logmein hell I dont even know what that is lol.

But I just cant decide if I should go fully over to it or not I took it off my computer dual booting cause it was on a crap HDD. So just having a hard time since I havent messed with it much

Just wait on the final release, ive had minor probs though i cant remember what they were.

Just imagine the eye candy of vista but better then the speed of xp but better, combine the two brilliants : a whoopie of a o.s.

[Shocker003]

have you got the latest driver to install correctly? i got rid of my xfi platinum last week cos it keeps playing up, i think its the sound processor or the xram but creative support are convinced they dont have issues, pppffft now im just waiting on my asus d2x to come in!
i did get the console and drivers working in 32bit though so i might just be able to help you out if you havnt already figured?

Thanks for the advice:up:, am downloading the 32bit version now. I will still hang on to my creative cards for the time being.;)

[dan7777]

anyone answer me this ive got 8GB ram and only score 5.6 ? thnx in advance

[HuffPCair]

anyone answer me this ive got 8GB ram and only score 5.6 ? thnx in advance

Where you doing anything else when you did the experience thing?

[ewitte]

think like this....

Say I had 2GB of DDR2-800 and was marked accordingly.

Now, say I go buy 2x 128MB dimms of custom made DDR2-1200 then I use LN2 to cool the sticks and force them to DDR2-1800 with timings of 4,4,4,1,1t in dual channel mode.

Do you now think vista will score me 7.9 on memory simply because my memory is super duper fast?

Ofcourse not, apperature has to play a role. Speed is not the only factor.

Isn't the test benchmarking the speed? Why would size have anything to do with it besides in you example tons of paging because of only 256MB ram. For 4GB versus 8GB I don't see why the huge jump.

[KELL5]

Isn't the test benchmarking the speed? Why would size have anything to do with it besides in you example tons of paging because of only 256MB ram. For 4GB versus 8GB I don't see why the huge jump.

Theres actually a formula.

Operations per second, memory throughput in MB/s combined with aperture = WEI score.

I calculate that 8GB-16GB of DDR2/3 at 8,000MB/s+ is required for a 7.9

I'd like to see ANDREYANG's WEI memory score.....I think we can safely say he'd get a 7.9 :yepp:

[dan7777]

Where you doing anything else when you did the experience thing?

no wasnt doing anything else. im puzzled

[KELL5]

no wasnt doing anything else. im puzzled

can you open a cmd prompt window and type....

winsat mem

and hit return.....after a few seconds you'll get a MB/s readout.....what does your memory achieve?

[dan7777]

can you open a cmd prompt window and type....

winsat mem

and hit return.....after a few seconds you'll get a MB/s readout.....what does your memory achieve?

weird that ive got the memory overclocked to 980mhz from 800 and in cmd its only saying... mem performance 7335.67 mb/s why is this cheers kell5:up:

[rickvtv6]

weird that ive got the memory overclocked to 980mhz from 800 and in cmd its only saying... mem performance 7335.67 mb/s why is this cheers kell5:up:

i dont think this should matter with wei but u running x32 or x64? and if you go to system properties it reads the 8gb where it states your processor speeds and wei?

[rickvtv6]

Isn't the test benchmarking the speed? Why would size have anything to do with it besides in you example tons of paging because of only 256MB ram. For 4GB versus 8GB I don't see why the huge jump.

why the huge jump? i can understand why cos i have to use a stupid page file!lol im gonna get hold of x64 cos of this reason: 4gb ram, 2gb video mem, 2gb remain, 1gb for o.s, leaves less than 1gb for gaming/apps, i got the famous running low on memory so i had to use the old pagefile to fix it but i hate page files, unless your running off a ssd setup. thats why i can understand why they jump so much, i really need to consider at least 6gb if i can find some more super talent 1800 somewhere.

[rickvtv6]

Thanks for the advice:up:, am downloading the 32bit version now. I will still hang on to my creative cards for the time being.;)

i did like my xfi until it played up espec the i/o panel at the front look sexy, paid a bit for it too when it was released, but i think in my case its the heat thats damaged it, crammed between the 2 98gx2's that peak around 70c id sheet myself too lol. thats why the pci-e d2x is coming so its away from the cards (dunn how its gonna fit with the chipset fan on the 790iultra?) plus the xonars cheaper and great reviews.

[dan7777]

i dont think this should matter with wei but u running x32 or x64? and if you go to system properties it reads the 8gb where it states your processor speeds and wei?

Hi there mate im running windows 7 6801 and yes buddy it does show 8GB ram not sure why score is so slow!

[rge]

Memory scores make no sense because wei artificially limits your mem score to 5.5 unless you have more than 3gb available memory. See first wei perf log at 3x1gb with limit warning of 5.5 max, despite 19,831 mb/s performance of 3x1gb of ddr3 at 1600mhz. Even ran at 2000mhz and still 5.5 despite even higher. Yet my 6gb (3x2) mem at 1600mhz gets highest 7.9 score at 23,218 mb/s. last pic is from run with 6gb mem.

[Firestrider]

Memory scores make no sense because wei artificially limits your mem score to 5.5 unless you have more than 3gb available memory. See first wei perf log at 3x1gb with limit warning of 5.5 max, despite 19,831 mb/s performance of 3x1gb of ddr3 at 1600mhz. Even ran at 2000mhz and still 5.5 despite even higher. Yet my 6gb (3x2) mem at 1600mhz gets highest 7.9 score at 23,218 mb/s. last pic is from run with 6gb mem.

Based on your metrics your CPU is about 2.5 times faster than mine with a difference of only 0.5? I get a 7.2 subscore and you get a 7.7 subscore for CPU.

Can I see your graphics and disk metrics?

[rge]

Based on your metrics your CPU is about 2.5 times faster than mine with a difference of only 0.5? I get a 7.2 subscore and you get a 7.7 subscore for CPU.

Can I see your graphics and disk metrics?

yep...windows instead of giving the wei score, should just list raw measurments, more useful.

[zsamz_]

i'm running w7 64 i had to loosen up ram timings to get it stable compared to xp

[rickvtv6]

Hi there mate im running windows 7 6801 and yes buddy it does show 8GB ram not sure why score is so slow!

that is bizarre? i think it should be higher :shrug:

[KELL5]

Memory scores make no sense because wei artificially limits your mem score to 5.5 unless you have more than 3gb available memory. See first wei perf log at 3x1gb with limit warning of 5.5 max, despite 19,831 mb/s performance of 3x1gb of ddr3 at 1600mhz. Even ran at 2000mhz and still 5.5 despite even higher. Yet my 6gb (3x2) mem at 1600mhz gets highest 7.9 score at 23,218 mb/s. last pic is from run with 6gb mem.

Yes, I mentioned aperature as being part of the formula.

Nice mem score. Look like 6GB at 23GB/s is enough for a 7.9 :up:

Can you possibly reduce your mem speed gradually and keep checking your throughput until your wei mem rating drops to 7.8 or less? I'd really like to see exactly what bandwidth is required for the 7.9.

No rush though....thanks in advance.

[rickvtv6]

can you open a cmd prompt window and type....

winsat mem

and hit return.....after a few seconds you'll get a MB/s readout.....what does your memory achieve?

mine sits around 6852.45, i dunno if this is average or crap cos of the 1800 timings?

- <MemoryScore>
<LimitApplied Friendly="Physical memory available to the OS is less than 3.0GB - limit mem score to 5.5" Relation="LT">3221225472</LimitApplied>
</MemoryScore>
</LimitsApplied>
</WinSPR>
- <Metrics>
- <CPUMetrics>
<CompressionMetric units="MB/s">339.60400</CompressionMetric>
<EncryptionMetric units="MB/s">178.48810</EncryptionMetric>
<CPUCompression2Metric units="MB/s">1051.23352</CPUCompression2Metric>
<Encryption2Metric units="MB/s">1561.98120</Encryption2Metric>
<CompressionMetricUP units="MB/s">84.26306</CompressionMetricUP>
<EncryptionMetricUP units="MB/s">44.74727</EncryptionMetricUP>
<CPUCompression2MetricUP units="MB/s">263.32401</CPUCompression2MetricUP>
<Encryption2MetricUP units="MB/s">391.80798</Encryption2MetricUP>
<DshowEncodeTime units="s">1.92198</DshowEncodeTime>

i dont have a clue what you go off to rate the mb/s of ram here?

[KELL5]

I get 6864.56 MB/s at 430mhz (860mhz 5,5,5,18,2t) and 7201.41 MB/s at 533mhz (1066mhz 5,5,5,18,2t)

[rickvtv6]

I get 6864.56 MB/s at 430mhz (860mhz 5,5,5,18,2t) and 7201.41 MB/s at 533mhz (1066mhz 5,5,5,18,2t)

thats on 2gb yeh? im playing with the timings atm, most i got so far is a 300mb/s increase.

will the amount affect the benchmark? or is it purely off overall speed on all dimms?

can you tell me is it worth dropping to around the 1500mhz mark to get 1T timing over 2T im getting around 7150mb/s with these settings: tCL-8 tRCD-6 tRP-6 tRAS-15 CMD-2T tRRD-1 tRC-1 tWR-5 tWTR-16 tFAW-1 tREF-auto(7.7ns) tRFC-auto(100). Oh yeh, and 1.9v

and with p1 and p2 settings (which xfx neglect to mention what this actually does) on auto i get around 6900, with them on enabled i get around 7100mb/s best was 7442.88

[KELL5]

yeah sorry mate, I meant to say this is with 2x1GB dimms yes.

going from 2gb to 4gb will effect your wei rating in a positive manner. 4gb of memory will score higher wei rating than 2gb if timings are the same. If the 4gb (4x1gb or 2x2gb) have higher latency and/or looser timings than the 2gb then the score may reflect this.

Each time you gain in wei from aperature the gain can be reduced if timings are higher since latency is increased and operations per second goes down.

I wish I knew precisely what the formula is.

edit...


can you tell me is it worth dropping to around the 1500mhz mark to get 1T timing over 2T im getting around 7150mb/s with these settings: tCL-8 tRCD-6 tRP-6 tRAS-15 CMD-2T tRRD-1 tRC-1 tWR-5 tWTR-16 tFAW-1 tREF-auto(7.7ns) tRFC-auto(100). Oh yeh, and 1.9v

Best way to tell is to run a few dif benchmarks with each setting. Say winrar bench (open winrar and hit alt+b) for example....Everest cache and mem bench....and perhaps NUCLEARUS, aswell as any others you like. This will give you a better idea of the performance of each set of timings. So long as you don't lose too many Mhz then I'd say 1t would probably perform better.

[rickvtv6]

yeah sorry mate, I meant to say this is with 2x1GB dimms yes.

going from 2gb to 4gb will effect your wei rating in a positive manner. 4gb of memory will score higher wei rating than 2gb if timings are the same. If the 4gb (4x1gb or 2x2gb) have higher latency and/or looser timings than the 2gb then the score may reflect this.

Each time you gain in wei from aperature the gain can be reduced if timings are higher since latency is increased and operations per second goes down.

I wish I knew precisely what the formula is.

edit...



Best way to tell is to run a few dif benchmarks with each setting. Say winrar bench (open winrar and hit alt+b) for example....Everest cache and mem bench....and perhaps NUCLEARUS, aswell as any others you like. This will give you a better idea of the performance of each set of timings. So long as you don't lose too many Mhz then I'd say 1t would probably perform better.

thnx heaps ill give it a bash prob tomorrow. with the timings i optimized them to above got no change in wei :(:shrug::mad:

[Firestrider]

I get 10GB/s with 5-5-5-18-24-2T timings with 4x1GB sticks at 400 mhz.

[KELL5]

I get 10GB/s with 5-5-5-18-24-2T timings with 4x1GB sticks at 400 mhz.

is that your winsat mem bandwidth or another bench?

what does wei rate your memory at?

<<curious

[rickvtv6]

I get 10GB/s with 5-5-5-18-24-2T timings with 4x1GB sticks at 400 mhz.

i cant run duel channel on my mainboard with these modules if that makes much diff?

[KELL5]

i cant run duel channel on my mainboard with these modules if that makes much diff?

no DC!!!!!

that is a massive factor mate. Why no DC mode?

[Firestrider]

is that your winsat mem bandwidth or another bench?

what does wei rate your memory at?

<<curious

I get 5.9 because it limits my score to 5.9 because I have less than 4 GB of ram on a 64-bit OS. IIRC it gave me a higher score on 32-bit windows 7.

Yeah, this is the winsat memory bench.

[Firestrider]

i cant run duel channel on my mainboard with these modules if that makes much diff?

Dual channel will double your bandwidth over single channel. It's like going from a 64-bit bus to a 128-bit bus. Triple channel would give a 192-bit bus.

[rickvtv6]

no DC!!!!!

that is a massive factor mate. Why no DC mode?

lol i didnt know it made that much diff? ok ill give it a go, i did try it not long ago but it caused a few lockups.

xfx say its not supported for some reason, only banks 0,2 or something instead of 1,2

EDIT

i dont think it should matter what order they are in as long as they are in duel channel mode right? its increased to around 8600mb/s... i wasnt sure to expect around 14gb/s?

[KELL5]

It should be banks 1 & 3 for DC mode on that mobo (I think). It has to support dual channel...it's a standard. In DC mode you may need to use 2t cmd rate.....I'm unsure as I've never messed with that mobo.

You should definately pursue DC mode though as the guy above said, it'll provide a huge increase in bandwidth even if you need to take a speed hit..

[rickvtv6]

It should be banks 1 & 3 for DC mode on that mobo (I think). It has to support dual channel...it's a standard. In DC mode you may need to use 2t cmd rate.....I'm unsure as I've never messed with that mobo.

You should definately pursue DC mode though as the guy above said, it'll provide a huge increase in bandwidth even if you need to take a speed hit..

that what i had them in before with 7600. they are in 2,3 (order 0,2,1,3 on the board) im d/l the manual now as i dont have it on hand.

duel channel mad no diff to wei, still 5.5 :(

[Firestrider]

that what i had them in before with 7600. they are in 2,3 (order 0,2,1,3 on the board) im d/l the manual now as i dont have it on hand.

duel channel mad no diff to wei, still 5.5 :(

How much memory are you using? On a 32-bit Windows 7? I'm pretty sure you have a limit applied.

Look to see if your memory bandwidth went up in your recent assessment.

[KELL5]

Look to see if your memory bandwidth went up in your recent assessment.

firestrider beat me to it lol

I was gonna say, has DC mode effected your winsat mem bandwidth or is it the same as before in single channel?

[rickvtv6]

How much memory are you using? On a 32-bit Windows 7? I'm pretty sure you have a limit applied.

Look to see if your memory bandwidth went up in your recent assessment.

it says bandwidth units mb/s 8687.94434 (approx 1200mb/a increase from single chann)

checked the maual and its now in duel channel.

yeh x32 i need 64 i know. like i mentioned previously 4gb, 2gb shared video caching leaves 1gb for win7 and 1gb for whatever else. shocking.

looks like im stuck between a firewall and a wall power socket. ill down clock it tomorrow to get 1T and see what blows up. thanks for ya help tho, i will post up my results.

[KELL5]

it says bandwidth units mb/s 8687.94434 (approx 1200mb/a increase from single chann)

checked the maual and its now in duel channel.

yeh x32 i need 64 i know. like i mentioned previously 4gb, 2gb shared video caching leaves 1gb for win7 and 1gb for whatever else. shocking..

Good increase.

Will be good to see if x64 does increase your WEI...I'm sure it will.

[rickvtv6]

Good increase.

Will be good to see if x64 does increase your WEI...I'm sure it will.

im hoping it will as it will free up the 2gb ram thats dedicated to the video, (i had the same issue with vistax32 then x64 fixed it) but that wont be till next week some time. i thought the increase would have been more to be honest, i will see where 1T gets me later.

i am however getting the same 3dmark06 score at 3.83ghz as i was getting at 4ghz with the new timings, spose ill throw it up to 4ghz and see what happens.

[CmdrFluff]

Just out of curiosity...
anyone see a difference in 32 bit vs. 64 bit.? (as in you tried 32, benched, then tried 64 bit and benched same specs.) :shrug:

[jspace]

At first I was ashamed to post my score. But then I saw the WEI for the Aspire One and felt (slightly) better.
I do have to say it really does feel quite snappy. Of course I've been sending feedback like a madman. Not that Microsoft actually reads it, but it makes me feel better knowing that some system somewhere is doing something. Even if it is just hitting a virtual delete key:D

PS. Does anyone know of a way to decrease the delay between when you mouse over the taskbar and those preview boxes come up?

[rge]

Yes, I mentioned aperature as being part of the formula.

Nice mem score. Look like 6GB at 23GB/s is enough for a 7.9 :up:

Can you possibly reduce your mem speed gradually and keep checking your throughput until your wei mem rating drops to 7.8 or less? I'd really like to see exactly what bandwidth is required for the 7.9.

No rush though....thanks in advance.

Was curious myself...ran following below...looks like ~22,000 mb/s nets you a 7.9.

mem 1176mhz (6x196bclk) = 19,561 wei 7.7 (pic1)

mem 1448mhz (8x181bclk) = 20,347 wei 7.8 (pic2)

mem 1552mhz (8x194bclk) = 21,859 wei 7.8 (pic3)

mem 1568mhz (8x196bclk) = 22,112 wei 7.9 (pic4)

[KELL5]

Was curious myself...ran following below...looks like ~22,000 mb/s nets you a 7.9.

mem 1176mhz (6x196bclk) = 19,561 wei 7.7 (pic1)

mem 1448mhz (8x181bclk) = 20,347 wei 7.8 (pic2)

mem 1552mhz (8x194bclk) = 21,859 wei 7.8 (pic3)

mem 1568mhz (8x196bclk) = 22,112 wei 7.9 (pic4)

Thanks a lot bud for takin' the time to test and post. I'm sure many users are interested to see your results.

Those are some very nice numbers from your memory. :yepp:

:)

[rickvtv6]

At first I was ashamed to post my score. But then I saw the WEI for the Aspire One and felt (slightly) better.
I do have to say it really does feel quite snappy. Of course I've been sending feedback like a madman. Not that Microsoft actually reads it, but it makes me feel better knowing that some system somewhere is doing something. Even if it is just hitting a virtual delete key:D

PS. Does anyone know of a way to decrease the delay between when you mouse over the taskbar and those preview boxes come up?

whats your system its rating? as for the taskbar, i dont think you can, i play with settings all the time to get it how i want but i think its purely the speed of your processor that will determine how delayed it is, like vista is a bit sluggish on my toplap travelmate 2480 but win7 should be a bit quicker on it when i decide to upgrade he o.s. on it, but i think your wei will kill my travelmate :up:

[rickvtv6]

Was curious myself...ran following below...looks like ~22,000 mb/s nets you a 7.9.

mem 1176mhz (6x196bclk) = 19,561 wei 7.7 (pic1)

mem 1448mhz (8x181bclk) = 20,347 wei 7.8 (pic2)

mem 1552mhz (8x194bclk) = 21,859 wei 7.8 (pic3)

mem 1568mhz (8x196bclk) = 22,112 wei 7.9 (pic4)


now why cant i have scores like that? lol so i wonder if i had 6 or 8gb would my mb/s increase?

oh yeh i 4got your running tri channel too. im still convinced duel channel should still be higher than what im getting.

[KELL5]

At first I was ashamed to post my score. But then I saw the WEI for the Aspire One and felt (slightly) better.
I do have to say it really does feel quite snappy.

Well, this should make you feel a lot better :)

I installed 7 in my old HP pavilion the other night.

Athlon64 3200+ at 2ghz | 1GB DDR 333 | 100GB 5400RPM | ATi XPRESS 200M 32MB

I have to say 7 is just rediculously good for driver support. I can't get over the fact I haven't had to install a single driver, and this lappy runs like it has xp installed :)

The HDD size is reported due to partition size. I made C: drive 30gb so having 29gb free results in a slightly lower score :( If I re-install and configure drive as a single partition the HDD score would no doubt rise but then the graphics would most likely be the limiting factor. I'll try a little OC and some tweaks and see what I can get this bad-boy upto :)

[rickvtv6]

well i didnt have much lick with 1T, what i did notice is that i swapped the dimms around again managed to get it to boot with 1547mhz 7-7-7-18 1T and still scored about 8200mb/s so in theory if i just leave it at 1800mhz 2T im scoring slightly better plus 2 cycles is slightly more stable than one. but while i have been playing with timings my system crashed a few times in the process, and think i have corrupted the data again, when the option shows during boot stating windows startup recovery or load normally the screen does the old roll down blind affect, like loading a web page on dialup if u no what i mean, when i select start normally it starts running incredibly slow, like i mean slower than my first comp 486dx2/66 then after about 30mins of showing the pretty loading screen it bsod with 0x08b (i think)

[KELL5]

The girls VIAO, she's lovin' 7 aswell :)

[ptelles]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/808AWD325xi/oc/win7_wei.jpg

[GTSRboy]

I dont get how this rating system works. Some with a GTX 280 gets a 6.0 gaming score, and i with my 9800GTX+ also got a 6.0. My Q9300 gets a 7.2/7.9, and its not close to the highest preforming CPU's. But someone with the best HDD avalible gets a 5/7.9. Hopefully they fix this in the full release. They need to get rid of the 'base score' crap. Base score means that two totally diffrent PC's will end up with the same base score...

Heres my results. Stupid 3.0.:shakes:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8034/testaf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[rickvtv6]

The girls VIAO, she's lovin' 7 aswell :)

lol i cant imagine what my laptop will score when its on win7, integrated intel graphics 50gb ata drive???

im loading 7000 x64 atm, will let you know if it improves. :)

[KELL5]

They need to get rid of the 'base score' crap. Base score means that two totally diffrent PC's will end up with the same base score...

In reality though the HDD speed does govern the responsiveness of a pc. If you have two identical pc's (cpu, ram, gpu etc) but in one system you have say an SSD or VELOCIRAPTOR, and in the other you have an older spec HDD like say an 80GB MAXTOR IDE then you most certainly notice a difference in system response times.

I do however agree that the way they calculate your HDD score based on size aswell as read/write speeds is a bit odd. Since I could use 12xSSD's in RAID0 then make an OS partition of say 10GB....7 would rate that very low, even though the read speed is immense :(


lol i cant imagine what my laptop will score when its on win7, integrated intel graphics 50gb ata drive???

im loading 7000 x64 atm, will let you know if it improves. :)

hehee you might be surprised, my little HP runs very well with 7 installed. The only real letdown is the fact I partitioned the drive :(

Looking forward to see how your lappy scores :)

[rickvtv6]

In reality though the HDD speed does govern the responsiveness of a pc. If you have two identical pc's (cpu, ram, gpu etc) but in one system you have say an SSD or VELOCIRAPTOR, and in the other you have an older spec HDD like say an 80GB MAXTOR IDE then you most certainly notice a difference in system response times.

I do however agree that the way they calculate your HDD score based on size aswell as read/write speeds is a bit odd. Since I could use 12xSSD's in RAID0 then make an OS partition of say 10GB....7 would rate that very low, even though the read speed is immense :(



hehee you might be surprised, my little HP runs very well with 7 installed. The only real letdown is the fact I partitioned the drive :(

Looking forward to see how your lappy scores :)

ill be willing to bet that win7 on this laptop will run better than vista but its the benching that i think will be a laugh.

lappy wont be till final release i think, as its used for every day things espec net surfing so id rather just keep the beta on the main rig,

as for win7x64 compared to x32 heres my eperience...

you bet ya! processor is still at the same 3.83ghz (1800 fsb and ram) and it increased to 7.5 ram increased to 5.9 (4gb limit extension 8300mb/s), 7.9 desktop, 5.9 gaming (havnt installed 181.22 driver yet), 5.9 hdd

im having trouble with BITS service crashing all the time so ill need to go through the report logs and fix some things. (joy!)

[KELL5]

Good to see your mem scores up at 7+ :)

I think you're right about 7 running better than vista on your lappy. I'm utterly amazed by it myself.

I tried vista on my HP a few months back and basically after a couple of hours of tweakin' I finally gave up. It ran like a cripple on a train track :rofl:

In contrast though, 7 is like a MAG-LEV train :up::up::up:

[rickvtv6]

Good to see your mem scores up at 7+ :)

I think you're right about 7 running better than vista on your lappy. I'm utterly amazed by it myself.

I tried vista on my HP a few months back and basically after a couple of hours of tweakin' I finally gave up. It ran like a cripple on a train track :rofl:

In contrast though, 7 is like a MAG-LEV train :up::up::up:

yep win7 x64 performs better than x32 to a degree but hasn't that always been the case with x64? (apart from driver support sometimes)

vista is memory hungry espec if you use all the eye candy, whereas 7 is just brilliant.

when you say tweaking, do you mean going through services and disabling certain "useful" services?

[m0da]

not bad for a laptop eh!?!???

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9263/m1330lp5.jpg

[rickvtv6]

not bad for a laptop eh!?!???


that is pretty impressive for a lappy :clap:, you guys are tempting me to install it on mine so you can all have a good laugh aren't yas?!:ROTF:

you should try taking a nokia n-95 8gb apart and installing a new housing to it, that just took me about 2 hours (and installed new speakers as they were rattling due to magnetic dust particles!) i feel sorry for the ppl that do it for a job.

[KELL5]

that is pretty impressive for a lappy :clap:, you guys are tempting me to install it on mine so you can all have a good laugh aren't yas?!:ROTF:

heheee you've sussed us :)

__________________________________________________ ___

Here's my wee lads rating. Fitted the memory and plugged in the hdd/dvd/gpu/soundcard himself aswell as plugged in all the fans. Not bad considering he's only 4! :)

I took a load of xmas trash to the recycling centre a couple of weeks back and saw an old dell tower sitting. All the guts where in it so i scooped it up and brought it home (I hate seeing pc parts trashed). I finally got around to tryin' the parts. In the end the cpu and memory where fine but mobo and all else were croaked.

So long story short, I threw the P4 3Ghz in a P5N32-E SLi + mobo I had lying spare. Running at 4ghz on air atm with stock intel cooler. His memory is Nanya (from the dell) and is PC2-3200 :( but runs at 413mhz (ddr-816 :))

Not too bad for nyada....sorry NANYA :rofl:

[rickvtv6]

Here's my wee lads rating. Fitted the memory and plugged in the hdd/dvd/gpu/soundcard himself aswell as plugged in all the fans. Not bad considering he's only 4! :)

I took a load of xmas trash to the recycling centre a couple of weeks back and saw an old dell tower sitting. All the guts where in it so i scooped it up and brought it home (I hate seeing pc parts trashed). I finally got around to tryin' the parts. In the end the cpu and memory where fine but mobo and all else were croaked.

So long story short, I threw the P4 3Ghz in a P5N32-E SLi + mobo I had lying spare. Running at 4ghz on air atm with stock intel cooler. His memory is Nanya (from the dell) and is PC2-3200 :( but runs at 413mhz (ddr-816 :))

Not too bad for nyada....sorry NANYA :rofl:

hey you changed your sig, he's 4? dude thats impressive, keep teaching him everything you know and with the tech he'll have when he's older should be doing great in the future o.cing forums! i remember back in the day of the new $2,500 486/dx2/66 was my first system, i had Microsoft encyclopedia which taught me a fair bit. lol now look where we have advanced from that time, imagine his future! awesome. :up:

[Mean Machine]

5.9 if I'm not mistaken, not sitting at home right now. Two 36GB Raptors isn't enough for decent transfer rate. :)

[dan7777]

i got ..processor 7.5 mem 7.4 graphics card 7.9 gaming graphics 6.5 primary hdd 5.7 this is with new windows 7- 7025 version i installed tonight much better index score than i had with win 7 7000. :)

[rickvtv6]

i got ..processor 7.5 mem 7.4 graphics card 7.9 gaming graphics 6.5 primary hdd 5.7 this is with new windows 7- 7025 version i installed tonight much better index score than i had with win 7 7000. :)

hey can i ask where you found this 7025 version? also any1 know when it will be finalized?

good mem score, can you share the specs on it (timing, channels, speed ect?)
:up:

[One_Hertz]

My HDD score is 7.9 with write cache off, 7.8 with cache on :p:. That's two Intel X25-Es on adaptec 5405 in R0. Boots in about 15 seconds. Friggin XP used to take 30 for some reason.

[swale]

I scored...

http://upload.overclock3d.net/dwn/092005148184/untitled.png (http://www.overclock3d.net)

[GTSRboy]

I turned off write caching on my disk, my HD score went from 3.0-5.9, even when i turned it back on and re-tested it still gave me a 5.9. So my new base score is now 5.5, limited by my RAM

[swale]

how do you turn it off????

What effect does it have apart from windows score??

[GTSRboy]

^^Go to your device manager, then find your disk and right click. Then go to policies and uncheck 'enable write caching on this device'

(somone correct me if im wrong)

If you enable it, your writing things to your disks cache, and you disk tells your OS that its done writing even if the info isnt on you HDD yet. If you have a power loss, you will lose data that is in the cache but hasnt been written to the disk yet, and your OS wont know that anything has been lost. So itll never say 'data loss' youll just possibly experiance some bugs if important info was on the cache. Turning it off means it doesnt get written to the cache which means things move faster, aka right to the disk. If you enable it, your system will be faster, but at risk. If you uncheck it, itll be slower (but transfer quicker+Win 7 gives you a higher score) with no risk

[mattd390]

http://www.geocities.com/mattd390/win7exp.jpg

Here is my wind's rating :)

[HuffPCair]

http://www.geocities.com/mattd390/win7exp.jpg

Here is my wind's rating :)

Please dont tell me your 260 got that rating

[mattd390]

Please dont tell me your 260 got that rating

No bro, it's my MSI Wind's (netbook) rating :). If my 260 got that rating I would yank it out of my system and ship it back to newegg :D.

[HuffPCair]

No bro, it's my MSI Wind's (netbook) rating :). If my 260 got that rating I would yank it out of my system and ship it back to newegg :D.

ah ok I guess I should of looked at your sig and saw you had more then one lol

[mattd390]

ah ok I guess I should of looked at your sig and saw you had more then one lol

Easy enough mistake to make with a lot pf people on here :). I finally got my i7 all set so I will install Win 7 on there and see what kind of results I get :).

[cmay119]

Is a score of 3.0 for a RAID-0 of 2x Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200.10's normal? Or is there something I can do to increase the score of these drives? The non-oc'd i7 system scores 7.4 for both CPU and Memory. The 7900GT obviously doesn't fair too well on the score with a 5.2 for 3D Business and Gaming Graphics.

Windows 7 x64 Build 7000

[genec57]

I get a 6.5
96655

[funk32]

i get a 6.5 right now.. thats because of my 64gbSSD. but my video card is down now so i cant remember what the others were

[cky2k6]

I get a retarded rating for my video cards... I have no idea how 4870x2 cf is a 6.4 :stick: No problems with actual benches either, my 3d scores went up from vista 64.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5729/wei7.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wei7.jpg)

[genec57]

That is truly weird when you consider that my 4850 scores 6.5. All this proves is that the Windows Experience Index is worthless as a benchmark. Its sole purpose is as a guide whether or not your system is up to Windows 7 demands. The total score is based, after all, on the single slowest element.

[.Tret]

That is truly weird when you consider that my 4850 scores 6.5. All this proves is that the Windows Experience Index is worthless as a benchmark. Its sole purpose is as a guide whether or not your system is up to Windows 7 demands. The total score is based, after all, on the single slowest element.

This is proof that a single 4850 is better than two 4870's. :D

My evga gtx 280 ftw gets a 5.7 gaming score btw. :shrug:

[Parad0x]

http://img.techpowerup.org/090425/WEI.png

[Easybeat]

5.8 let down by a fairly non-descript 500Gb WD HDD. Even though my card is 18 months old it gets a 6.0 on Graphics which surprised me a little.

[Cliff Burton]

Just curious.
I have seen 7.9 marks in all tests but in the Gaming graphics one. Can anyone with a 4890 Tri-CF or GTX285 Tri-SLI on Classified E759 post their score?

[Ancient_1]

I guess W7 doesn't like 3g of ram. other than the mem score about what I expected.

96883

[Pøîñtßlåñk]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h236/Mikeluv43/Rating.jpg

[Hoss331]

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/hoss281/Untitled.jpg

[scottc19]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff279/scottc19/system7.jpg

[StickyRICE]

I'll post a screeny later, but two x2s in xfire only got 6.2 lol WTH.

[Ao1]

I get a retarded rating for my video cards... I have no idea how 4870x2 cf is a 6.4 :stick: No problems with actual benches either, my 3d scores went up from vista 64.


If you think that is bad I'm getting 6.3 for graphics and gaming on my 4870x2. 9.4 & 8.612 drivers give the same result. I've got a 30" monitor at 2560x1600 so I tried 800x600 and I still get 6.3. What gives?

[dan7777]

7.5 my lowest :)

[Hoss331]

Weird, my single slightly overclocked 4870 gets 6.9. :shrug:

[Ruroni]

Limited by HDD (velociraptor 300) @ 5.9

My GTX260 only scores 6.3 on both GFX tests. Processor and RAM @ 7.0 and 7.1 respectively.

[Ao1]

Am I right to say that 64 and 32 bit versions of the OS score differently? On Vista when I ungraded my 64 bit OS and put the old part in my 32 bit OS the benchmark sub-score was always higher in the 32 bit OS. I haven’t tried that on W7 though and I never found out why the sub score in a 32 bit system was always better than in a 64 bit system. :shrug:

[bmilos]

What I find strange is that 4 OCZ v2 SSD's in RAID0 only get a 5.9 and that my 4870x2 only gets a 6.2. More shocked at the SSD's rating...

[Ao1]

What I find strange is that 4 OCZ v2 SSD's in RAID0 only get a 5.9 and that my 4870x2 only gets a 6.2. More shocked at the SSD's rating...

That's not surprising for the Cores....if you have time have a quick scan of this thread. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3763054&postcount=1

[bmilos]

I ran it again and I am 7.8 for CPU, 7.9 for memory, 6.3 on Graphics, and 7.6 for HDD's. So, I need 2 X 4870x2's to be 7.9? They aren't messing around with this... 7.8 for a core i7 965 @ 4.7!

[dpokrajac0]

5.9 i think.

[cky2k6]

The 3d score apparently only supports 1 gpu, but that still doesn't explain why some people do much better than others with the same exact gpu.

[Hoss331]

I guess they changed the tests for 7201 since my graphics score has gone up 0.6 from 7100.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/hoss281/NewBitmapImage2-2.jpg

[NLight95]

Win7 x64 Build 7137. NWN2 won't run under 7201.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/Bench%20Test/WindowsPerformanceIndex.jpg

[Otto]

Windows 7 64bit 7100
i7 920 @4.0ghz
OCZ 1600
Single EVGA GTX 260 core 216 55nm
Two Western Digital 80 gig HDD Raid 0

http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss48/Ottomann/WE.jpg

[buddatech]

very interesting thread, I'm very tempted to install w7 now and give it a go

[EniGmA1987]

5.9 is mine. Limited by my hard drive. Everything else is at 6.9 or higher.

[NLight95]

Same as above except build 7232

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/Bench%20Test/WindowsPerformanceIndexbuild7232.jpg

[ChaosMinionX]

Dual 4870X2's I am getting a 5.9/7.9 for "desktop performance for windows aero"

Any idea why I am getting such a low score? Build 7100 of course, it doesnt make any sense and I also get alot of messages saying Aero is using up alot of resources and would like to change desktop settings?

Im not particularly worried about the WEI Score since they are for the most part meaningless in terms of performance standards, however its just perplexing that this score would be so low and I would be getting those popup windows regarding Aero using too many resources etc...

[Chickenfeed]

As far as I can tell, the video tests aren't allowing the ATI cards go into 3D clocks ( as well as not appearing to support / scale multiple cores ) My 8800gt gets .1 less than a 4870x2 which would support my theory ( 8800gt doesn't have 2d clocks ) I wouldn't be too worried about it as long as the cards are delivering where it matters :cool:

[borec]

5,5 for ram 1333 CL6 because I go without OC on x48 :)

[rge]

mine from recent rebuild
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6343/wind7exp.jpg

[Lamb]

Build 7100, how am I getting such low scores for GFX? oO

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9117/perf.png

[EagleRock]

Saw the RTM version today, any 1 will install it :D ?

[N19h7m4r3]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/N19h7m4r3/Windows7indexscore.png

Pretty low for my graphics :(

[zalbard]

5.9 running 7100 here. Limited by 7200 RPM disk. :(

[Hidetaka]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/HideCollector/Capture.jpg

Celeron 420 @ 2,4GHz [single core]
1 GB RAM 800 MHZ CL5 [single channel]
G31 chipset [GMA 3100 graphics]
Samsung F2 EcoGreen HD502HI [5400 rpm]

[XSAlliN]

Some scores, if not most - are predetermined, based on components information. Meaning, this tests don't calculate the OC Potential/Bonus - just the default speeds of those components.

[Diverge]

Here's mine

[Duby]

http://i31.tinypic.com/x6k85f.jpg

[Rucker]

Running 7100 RC with 920 at 4.2, 275 SLI and 74GB Raptors in Raid 0. Everything above 7 except for Primary Hard Disk, which came in at 6.0, which seems kind of odd seeing the typical 5.9 score for most HDD.

[xman01]

7100
5.9

[cstkl1]

Windows 7 64bit OEM Build 7600

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled3-6.png

[Computurd]

Wow

[loonym]

WOW mine is 7.9, cant believe im the only one!!!
Let's see a screenshot with system details and a cpuz.

[Computurd]

i7 920 @ 4.2 , 6 gb dominator 2000 , lsi 4260-8i, 8x30 GB vertex array, RAID 5, TRI-SLI 260,
I currently have the rig in a raid 5, i hbuilding new loop, just on air right now so its a little risky to push the proc to hard...I
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/paullie1/77fullscreen.png

[cstkl1]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled-48.png

[cstkl1]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled-49.png

testing of 4.5ghz low mem speed......
nope fake.. only 7.8

[Xcel]

Win7 x64 7600

[Quad-Damage]

Anyone know if PC safegaurd will come out with Windows 7?

I have the pro already want to setup a steady state for a lab environment.

[Kanzy]

I have 7.8 with i7 920 + gtx 285 SLI + intel x25 80g raid 0 + corsair ddr3 @1600, will go for 7.9 when i over clock my ram little bit

[bhavv]

Darn my Hard Drive:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3007/performancex.png

[jfromeo]

7.7 on the CPU @ 4.2GHz, 7.9 on the rest.

I guess we need to get some i9 to max CPU results. Anyone can test on a dual nehalem socket rig?

[SteveLord]

5.9...and thats with a Velociraptor. =(

[sargatanas]

mh 6.0 for me.
dont know how ppl get that high index with a 280 :O

[Vatos_locos]

here is mine low because of the 2Gb DDR3 i guess
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7408/shot0003s.jpg

[Spork!]

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz10/Sporkitus/ScreenShot002-1.gif

Not too bad for an "old" LGA 775 with a base model quad.
Was .1 higher on CPU and Memory, with higher CPU O/C but slower memory speed...
Now for a better GFX card... :)

[GTIR500]

have we got to the bottonm of why these scores differ so much.......

Running Win7

I have 3 x 285 GTX OC's running in tri SLi and both my graphic's scores are still at 6 :shrug:

I have noticed though that in my WEI spec's it shows my directX shows it at DirectX 9 or greater

[FloofyFox]

5.9 even with Raid-0

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn233/Floofy_Fox/7score.png

[dan7777]

here my lame score...

[Gen]

Q6600 @3.6
2x2GB @1080~
4x 500GB 7200.10 @raid 0

http://i48.tinypic.com/mmg12h.jpg

[irenedakota]

Here is mine:
http://imgur.com/R8CbTl.png (http://imgur.com/R8CbT.png)