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Fredthered
12-28-2008, 11:42 PM
I realise that this is going to sound rather crazy :shrug: but the other day, I was watching a video-clip on YouTube, about a guy whose w/c CPU block, had leaked and 'smoked' his m/b, and (I believe) a very expensive graphics card :eek:
:idea:
I suddenly got to wondering if it would be at all possible, to construct a Case, so that the m/b was mounted upside down ?
On the principle that, coolant, (due to gravity alone) would find it difficult, if not impossible, to find it's way on to a ' roof ' mounted motherboard.
This would also make future upgrades of CPU and GPU less vulnerable to residual coolant drips, after (you thought), the system had been 'drained'.
I realise this would only deal with 'seepage' type leaks, and not neccessarily to full-blown 'pressurised' ones, however if you get one of these, :eek: you're in BIG trouble anyway !
How about it ? TechGuys. :shrug:
Is it in with a chance, and got you thinking, or should the men in the 'white coats' be paying me a visit ? :rofl:
All the best for the New Year :up:
Fredthered
Vienna
12-28-2008, 11:55 PM
if a leak occured while the pump was running.... its gonna spray it everywhere ("roof" included) anyways... lol
JayG30
12-29-2008, 12:06 AM
I believe, from what I'm reading, you are saying to mount everything to the top of the case.
The few issues I can think of with this is;
First, the case design would have to change from Tower to Desktop again, which might raise even more changes to be made that I haven't thought of. Clearly modifications would have to be made to mount to any current case, LOTS of modifications actually.
Second, you will be fighting gravity more while mounting your components. Your GPU/GPUcooler, CPU cooler, RAM, any expansion cards, etc. would all be pulling downwards with more force than mounted vertically or horizontally on the bottom of the case. This in turn will cause extra strain on the motherboard itself. All this in combination COULD result in the board flexing to a greater extent (especially over time) and perhaps worse contact being established between your CPU cooler and anything you have plugged into a socket (GPU/RAM).
That is just something I thought of off the top of my head. There would be another better reason why it would be a problem, I'm not sure. I think it could be done though with some precautions and specific design elements to relieve some of the stress from gravity, such as support bars.
Fredthered
12-29-2008, 02:27 AM
if a leak occured while the pump was running.... its gonna spray it everywhere ("roof" included) anyways... lol
That's exactly what I meant, when I said: ' pressurised '.
I'm sorry if my English was insufficiently clear :p: I'm from Manchester (England), you know. :rofl:
I'll reiterate. (WHAT??? :ROTF:)
ANY pressurised leak, once the w/c system is installed, will likely wipe out your whole pc WHATEVER the orientation of your motherboard, granted, but given that the majority of w/c installers test their systems, statically (pump off) and pressurised (pump on), before offering them up to their components reduces the chances of a pressurised leak, during operation to a minimum.
A far more insidious (WHAT??) threat, is that of a gradual seepage leak, which is far less spectacular (but just as deadly), and is the very reason guys leave their newly installed w/c systems running (overnight) with some kitchen towel or similar underneath.
It's to these, which I believe, are more likely to occur once the pc is up and running, that I'm trying to prevent.
@JayG30
The Case design, as you say, would indeed have to change, which is why I'm posting this, in the: 'Case' section of the Forum, (rather than the 'W/C' section). ;)
Although not being a Case 'designer' myself :( I rather had in mind, a 'cubular' kind of Case, (a la' Mountain Mods), rather than a return to the ' Desktop ' style :shrug:
'Lots of modifications' to an existing case may not be possible, meaning a complete new build, howevever have you seen what CyberDruid has done using a Lian-Li m/b tray, as a base ?
With regards to: weight
The CPU W/C Block is (normally) firmly clamped to a m/b backplate.
(It's not as though I'm suggesting hanging a Tuniq Tower or anything, upside down, from your m/b).
The weight of RAM and (most) expansion cards are negligable, and wouldn't suffer from being 'inverted'.
Your GPU however, is a different matter.
If this were incapable of being sufficiently supported by both the 'stiffness' of the W/C tubing, and the expansion slot retaining screw(s), combined, then some kind of additional support bracket, would need to be fabricated.
With this stiffness, (of the tubing) both in tension, and in compression, I can't see m/b 'flexing' being an issue.
(Although I could be wrong(?)
Well that's about it. Brain cell finally 'burnt-out' for this Year, at least ! :rofl:
Over to you Design Guys, now.
Thanks to you two Guys for such a prompt reply
Happy New Year All
Fredthered :toast:
tiro_uspsss
12-29-2008, 04:44 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=212528
heres a case that'll have the block leaking on to either ur RAM or nothing :up: