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breathemetal
12-21-2008, 05:35 PM
runnin at:

3ghz (333.3x9) @ stock voltage
B2 revision

on air

idle temps according to real temp is anywhere from 40-45c
full load is pushing close to 60. too hot?

patrickadizzle
12-21-2008, 05:42 PM
What cooler are you using?

I like to keep mine under 55 if possible, so in my books, yes 60 is too hot for continuous load. Others may disagree, but that seems very warm for stock voltage.

:up:

breathemetal
12-21-2008, 05:44 PM
im using a ZALMAN CNPS9500
its def better than a stock cooler but im not a huge fan of it. but itll do till my next rig.

DavidNJ
12-21-2008, 06:58 PM
Something could be wrong with either your cooler mount or the amount of TIM used. Try remounting the cooler. When you take it apart check to see if their seems to be excess TIM. I have a B3. It idles with a peak core around 40 and on air a 3GHz would hit in the 60s. It is on water now.

breathemetal
12-21-2008, 07:56 PM
Ill check it tomorrow to be sure. Thanks for the tip

unclewebb
12-21-2008, 09:59 PM
Here's my Q6600 running Prime Small FFTs at 60C.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6114/60clg6.png

I'm running more voltage than you but my room temperature is probably cooler (16C) and my Tuniq fan is also on the lowest setting.

Your temperature looks very normal. These sensors are far from perfect so don't worry about your temperature as long as your computer is stable.

breathemetal
12-22-2008, 11:02 AM
is 1.4v too high?

Leeghoofd
12-22-2008, 11:21 AM
Nope if you get a decent cooler load temps will be at least 5°-8C lower... and guys he has an E6600 not a quaddie... and sorry but that Zalman is not very good

hema
12-22-2008, 01:11 PM
here my Q6600 with zalman
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/841/48066543om4.jpg
and the max temp in real temp after 30 turn with IntelBurnTest
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3384/46609519dz3.jpg

unclewebb
12-22-2008, 03:11 PM
is 1.4v too high?

Sorry, I only read the part about 6600. I thought you had a Q6600 and not an E6600.

I used to run my E6400 B2 at about 1.50 volts without ever having a problem and that chip is still running fine today. As long as your computer is stable and not thermal throttling, you won't have any problems. I'll go see if I can find some E6400 pics for comparison. :)

Edit: CPU-Z didn't used to report the voltage correctly back then but SpeedFan is correct (1.53 volts). It took some juice to run that speed and be stable with air cooling. My original Core 2 was a solid performer. :D

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9593/3640mhzsk9.png

I can't remember what the temps were but as I've said, as long as you're stable, no worries.

breathemetal
12-22-2008, 04:13 PM
So whats the max temp i should go under load?
Cuz I want to see if i can get it to 3.4

ownage
12-22-2008, 04:16 PM
is 1.4v too high?

Depends on temps.
My 2.5 year old e6600 runs @ 1.62v and gets above 70c on water.
It runs stable, and after 2 years the chips is finally degrading a bit, but not much.

breathemetal
12-22-2008, 04:21 PM
Hmmm nice to know

unclewebb
12-22-2008, 06:03 PM
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/964/hard3520loadpn6.png

This is like nostalgia days. Most of these will do 3.4 GHz without too much trouble. Core Temp in that screen shot is using TJMax = 85C but I think for that CPU it is probably closer to 90C so the core temperature is actually 5C higher than what the pic shows. (79C for 10 hours)

I always found that if they were running too hot, they'd simply re-boot. If it didn't re-boot running Prime95 Small FFTs then that was a sign that it was more than stable enough for my purposes.

The Intel absolute maximum for the 65nm Dual Cores is 1.55 volts so I always made sure to keep it under that number. Between 1.50 and 1.55 volts is sort of a gray area so I tried to keep the max at about 1.50 volts for 24/7 use.

Here's what Intel says about going beyond Absolute Maximum:

"At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality
nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these
conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the
functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be
severely degraded."

I think ownage proved that you can bend the rules a little bit but it might degrade at 1.62 volts. If his chip has survived 1.62 volts for 2 years then you really don't have to worry if your CPU needs 1.50 volts. You'll probably get 3.4 GHz stable with 1.40 volts.