9600BE + sb750 or 9850be +sb700

[villa1n]

I ve been doing some reading and can't really find a conclusive answer to what would be better. I am helping my brother build out an AMD rig on a tight budget...and those are the two options.. The goal is 3ghz plus on air. My logic and this is where i m calling on your expertise, is to get a good am2+ board, and the cheaper 9600be, so when deneb drops in a few months, he can do a straight upgrade to that with just a bios update, vs the sb700 board, which in my opinion will probably not get the most out of either processor?
Thoughts? What kind of clocks to 9600's pull now on sb750's?

[Bgriffs]

Can it wait a month or two? If it can I'd just wait and grab the Deneb with launch being just a month away or so. Then you can just buy one of those and it'd be a guaranteed 3+ on air.

If it can't get the 9850 and a SB700/SB750.

Just my 2 cents.

[villa1n]

Can it wait a month or two? If it can I'd just wait and grab the Deneb with launch being just a month away or so. Then you can just buy one of those and it'd be a guaranteed 3+ on air.

If it can't get the 9850 and a SB700/SB750.

Just my 2 cents.

Well it is supposed to be a christmas present, my parents are buying it for him, I m just organizing and assembling it for him.

But maybe i ll stretch my budget and help them out too, and bump him up to a 9850 with an sb750 ^^

[Bgriffs]

You can get a great 790gx/SB750 mobo for around the same price as a 790FX/SB600 board. And those GX boards still clock pretty well.

Foxconn has a great one here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186150

[biohead]

Afaik, 790GX is just as good as 790FX, it's just that its PCI-Express lanes in CF are 8x/8x.

[villa1n]

Afaik, 790GX is just as good as 790FX, it's just that its PCI-Express lanes in CF are 8x/8x.

but isnt it pci-e 2.0.. so its bandwidth is pretty similar? He s just gonna have a single 4870 sapphire toxic edition.. so the cf isn't super important yet :P Well if those deneb demo's were done on a GX i think they will hold up pretty well :P We ll see tommorow morning i guess.

[roofsniper]

but isnt it pci-e 2.0.. so its bandwidth is pretty similar? He s just gonna have a single 4870 sapphire toxic edition.. so the cf isn't super important yet :P Well if those deneb demo's were done on a GX i think they will hold up pretty well :P We ll see tommorow morning i guess.

790fx has pcie 2.0 as well. i think the 9850 would be better than the 9600 sb750 or not. this should help as well: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183422&highlight=phenom+overclocking+database. as you can see many people are getting 3ghz with sb600. sb 750 is just good incase you got a bad chip that doesn't clock well.

[Tom128]

For what its worth here is my input on 9600BE + SB750.

I sold my 9600BE to a friend well before SB750 came out. He came over yesterday and we tested his CPU in my mobo, ASUS M3A79-T. When I owned the chip I could get it up to 2.6Ghz but not 100% stable, and it would not boot with anything above 2.6Ghz regardless of voltage.

When he came over I was able to get the chip booting at 2.9Ghz with ACC turned on auto, as well as -6% for all cores (seemed to be the best). However, I could not get anything stable over 2.6Ghz.

That said it was my first attempt with using ACC, I only knew a little about the settings to play with, and had about 2 hours to kill playing with it. Were it my CPU I am pretty sure after researching the numbers I had available I could have broken the 2.6Ghz mark, hopefully well beyond.

[noinimod]

For what its worth here is my input on 9600BE + SB750.

I sold my 9600BE to a friend well before SB750 came out. He came over yesterday and we tested his CPU in my mobo, ASUS M3A79-T. When I owned the chip I could get it up to 2.6Ghz but not 100% stable, and it would not boot with anything above 2.6Ghz regardless of voltage.

When he came over I was able to get the chip booting at 2.9Ghz with ACC turned on auto, as well as -6% for all cores (seemed to be the best). However, I could not get anything stable over 2.6Ghz.

That said it was my first attempt with using ACC, I only knew a little about the settings to play with, and had about 2 hours to kill playing with it. Were it my CPU I am pretty sure after researching the numbers I had available I could have broken the 2.6Ghz mark, hopefully well beyond.
It looks like there's alot more room to play around with.. with some luck you could probably break 3ghz. Keep us posted heh

[wolverine]

Why not try the 790FX SB750 with a Toliman X3? Got mine to 3.0 Easy, but its the BE.Just raise the multi to 15. Running at 1.31 vcore. $119 free shipping from the Egg.