Best Quality/Price Rams ? see my list...

[NesQuiK]

KINGSTON HYPER X
KINGSTON HYPERX 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 (2-2-2-6-1) DIMM (Kit of 2) 233.95
KINGSTON HYPERX 512MB 434MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 (2-2-2-6-1) DIMM (Kit of 2) 223.95
KINGSTON HYPERX 512MB 466MHz DDR Non-ECC CL3 (3-4-4-8-1) DIMM (Kit of 2) 233.95 $

CORSAIR TWIN-X
CORSAIR 512MB TWIN-X PC3200 CAS 2 (2x256) 216.95 $
CORSAIR 512MB TWIN-X PC3700 (2x256) 235.95 $

Canadian money .... looking for best QUALITY/PRICE rams
getting those with 2.4c + IC7-Max3 .... help :)

[Soulburner]

HyperX 3200...

[Craig]

HyperX 3500

Cheaper, and faster in this case! Beats all the others hands down.

[Xenogias]

are the hyperx 3000s (also listed as 2-6-2-2) bh5 as well or are they bh6?

[shrae]

I don't think Kingston ever produced PC3500 at 2-2-2...

[GVCryan]

if it is the 222 stuff, the 3500 is bh5 and you should buy it

the 232 is ch-5 and sucks

the 3200 kingston would be my other choice

[mkleingeld]

My Khx 3500 spd is 2.3.3.7 but I can run it at about 235-240mhz 2.2.2.5 with 3.2v on them on my MAX3. That's with an old 2.8b and 4-5 fsb-mem. I cannot push them to their limits with my 2.8c and 5-4 2.2.2.5

[NesQuiK]

any last word ?

3500 or 3200 ?? :O

and i dont know if its samsung chip or bh5 .... :(

[Soulburner]

3200 because the 3500 is Samsung (as far as I know).

[NesQuiK]

all 3200 are bh5 ?????? all 3500 are samsung ?????

i think its just luck when u get any of them....

both have bh5 or samsung .. i dont think 3200 has only bh5 and 3500 only samsuNg

[Soulburner]

The thing is if you want the good HyperX, you need to get KHX3200, and not KHX3200A. The one with the A in it is cheaper and is CH5 (2-3-2-5). It must just be cheaper for them to produce.

[NesQuiK]

is there any bh5 on pc3500 ?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by NesQuiK
is there any bh5 on pc3500 ?
I thought the Mushkin Level II was...why are you so intent on 3500?

[NesQuiK]

ill never get mushkin it will take like a month of saving up :/

asking bh5 on khx 3500??? u have alot of possibilities or none -.-

[Soulburner]

Again, why are you so intent on 3500? The 3200 will do the same thing.

[Toker5000]

personally im going to buy 2 x 512 samsung dimms for 109$can/each 75c can = 1$ us. very cheap, will prolly do 265 fsb on 5:4 if not better

[MudWhistle]

What stores are you seeing these prices at?, i'm interested myself. My 2*OCZ EL DDR PC 3500 have been sitting on my desk for the past 4 months. (biggest waste of money I have spent on computer parts)

I need new ram :)

[Speed_Mechanic]

If you want performance, everyone is saying go with BH-5 chips. It's as simple as that.

If you want to know what comes with BH-5 chips, it's a little more complicated. Only Mushkin Level 2 offers a promise for continued assembly of BH-5 memroy in their Black Level 2 PC3200/PC3500. Buffalo and Kingston are still shipping modules that have been known to come only with BH-5 in the past. And there are others out there where there's a risk of getting differant chips each time you purchase memory.

For those that are shipping BH-5, here is the 'pricelist'

Muskin Black Level 2:
1x512MB PC3200 - $139 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-284) - www.newegg.com *
2x256MB PC3200 - $146 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-283) - www.newegg.com *
2x512MB PC3200 - $278 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-284) - www.newegg.com *

1x512MB PC3500 - $148 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-296) - www.newegg.com *
2x256MB PC3500 - $174 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-291) - www.newegg.com *
2x512MB PC3500 - $289 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-146-292) - www.newegg.com *

Buffalo PC3700:
1x256MB - $59 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-150-565) - www.newegg.com
1x512MB - $103 (http://www.pricewatch.com/s/b.asp?d=4068848) - www.newegg.com (ETA 10/31/03)

Kingston HyperX (2-2-2)-series:
2x256MB PC3000 - $122 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-144-123) - www.newegg.com
2x512MB PC3000 - $230 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-144-124) - www.newegg.com

1x512MB PC3200 - $124 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-9) - www.zipzoomfly.com *
2x256MB PC3200 - $133 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80092-9) - www.zipzoomfly.com *
2x512MB PC3200 - $265 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-22) - www.zipzoomfly.com *

All current HyperX 3500 and XMS 3500 are using CH-5 chips. CH-5 chips are currently in production in Taiwan by Winbond, BH-5 chips are not.

[NesQuiK]

ok so now i understand . best performance = BH5 , BH5 = Mushkin black lvl2 only ???? just wanna know if u can get bh5 on khx 3200 or 3500

(and the guy will maybe let me open the box , but i dont know if i can remove heatsink on ram to chek chips )

so my point of view =

Mushkin black lvl 2 = BH5 chips 100% ????
KHX 3200 = BH5 or CH5 ... 50/50% ????
KHX 3500 = NO chance of getting BH5 , all samsung ??


tell me if im right or not

oh yeah and i forgot corsair.... i can only get corsair twinx 3200 or 3700 here .... is any of them good ?

[NesQuiK]

oh yeah MoWistle , the store is cipc ....

www.cipc-info.com there site is down for now , worked yesterday:smileysex

[althes]

Get the bh5 chips, they are the best.

[SoulEdge]

On a strictly price to performance basis, seems like the buffalo pc3700 would be the best, I've never heard of anyone NOT getting BH5 on those.

[Evil_Spork]

hmm if i were to buy a dual ddr pack of mublack lvlII 3200 from newegg, i would get BH-5 right?

if so i have some selling/buying to do!

[NesQuiK]

cant buy from newgg , no credit card ... -.- , so i have to go at my neraby stores :

www.ordicentre.com
www.cipc-info.com
www.ordinateurplus.com
www.equipemicrosolutions.com

yeah , i live in quebec it sux ... >.<

[Soulburner]

You don't have to have a credit card to order from newegg.

The shipping would cost a lot to get to Canada anyway.

[NesQuiK]

oh you dont , well how then ? and how much time does it take to get here :O

[Speed_Mechanic]

All the memory I linked to in that little pricelist has been known 'only' to have BH-5 chips.

Mushkin Black Level 2 PC3200/PC3500 - Promises Only BH-5 Chips
Buffalo PC3700 - Known Only BH-5 Chips (meaning noone has received CH-5 chips, known at least)

Kingston HyperX is a little bit complicated.

Kingston HyperX 3000 is known to ship only with BH-5 chips. Just b/c it's rated at PC3000 is meaningless (except for the fact that BY SPD recognizes it for PC3000 - which can cause conflict running 1:1 on A64 applications). It has BH-5 chips which are the chips to get.

Kingston HyperX 3200 comes in TWO differant 'flavors'. The older NON-A HyperX 3200 (rated 2-2-2) uses Winbond BH-5 chips and is still selling, albeit at a higher price then KHX3200A (rated 2-3-2). The KHX3200A uses CH-5 chips.


If you go to a store in Quebec, first check if it has Kingston HyperX 3200. If it does, then check the label code on it.
For Example, if your checking Kingston HyperX 3200 512MB Kit (2x256MB) if the label code says this (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-144-113-01.JPG) then it is A HyperX (rated at 2-3-2) and use CH-5 chips. - not so good
If the label code say this (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-144-125-01.JPG) then it is NON-A (rated 2-2-2) memory and should use BH-5 chips.

[NesQuiK]

if i got money ill get mushkins 3500 black lvl 2 :)

but what about khx3500 chips , u didnt say :)

[Speed_Mechanic]

As far as I know, ALL KHX3500 memory uses WinBond CH-5 chips.

[NesQuiK]

i think i made my choice

i just realized on the site they say if its bh5 or ch5 lol -.-

KHX3200 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 (2-2-2-6-1) DIMM (Kit of 2) 233.95 $

KHX3200A 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 (2-3-2-6-1) DIMM (Kit of 2) 199.95 $


hehe ill go with the khx3200 not A , thats like 130$US (for u us resident )

anyone saying my choice sux ? wanna be sure ;p if i make right choice

[Speed_Mechanic]

The prices are kinda high at that specific shop. $230 $CAD is about $USD $175. If there's any cheaper store that has NON-A, then the memory itself it top notch, just watch the price.

[NesQuiK]

yeah true , but isnt the dollar canadian 1,76 ??? 135*1.76=230 ...

but the other stores doesnt say if its kingston A , but they are like 20 dollar cheaper... so they are probably A ..

[Speed_Mechanic]

According to XE.com the currency rate is 1.31320 CAD/1 USD.

or 1 USD/0.761499 CAD .

[NesQuiK]

hmmmm , thats cool

[Soulburner]

I have the same memory and it was $71/stick at newegg.

[NesQuiK]

71 $$$ !!!!!! for 256 ? or 512 ? , not kit of 2 ?

[Soulburner]

KHX3200/256

[NesQuiK]

so *2 = 141$

like 200-230 canadian

[Soulburner]

Yep $141 for me.

[NesQuiK]

man the us dollar is high , us*1.76 =canadian

141*1.76=248 ...

i pay 233...

[cpulloverclock]

with my A-data BH-5 : DDR576

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/record.JPG

[NesQuiK]

lol ure french like me : ) demarrer ,raccourci .. lol

thats nice

[Soulburner]

Jesus 4v.....one would wonder how much they can take before they are fried (or the slot).

What were those rated at stock?

[Speed_Mechanic]

141 X 1.31 = $184 CAD

NOT 141 x 1.76. What is 1.76???

[NesQuiK]

nvm , wrong calculation , im still 15 y/o u know >.<

[Evil_Spork]

lol... i may pick up a dual channel kit of KHX3200 or MlvlII3500... hmm which id best for the $$?

[NesQuiK]

even if im getting khz3200 i would suggest you mushkin black . they are moer expensive buut better :D

[NesQuiK]

dont u already have some KHX pc3500 :eek:

[Evil_Spork]

yes.. its CH-5

i feel i gan get more out of bh-5, and i need ram for a second system. hehe. im crazy i know.

now i need to find some stuff to sell!

[NesQuiK]

lol :) good luck

[Speed_Mechanic]

To have a performance gain worth noticing, you gotta first sell your CH-5 for alot, then when you get your BH-5 memory, you gotta pump it with 3.2V. Then you might just make up for the loss of $, unless you sell your CH-5 for alot.

[NesQuiK]

yeah , but that guy went to 4v :slobber:

i hop i get to there lol :)

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by NesQuiK
yeah , but that guy went to 4v :slobber:

i hop i get to there lol :) :D it's not enough but there is a protect... :mad: :mad: :mad:
the world record with A BH-5 stick is 291.1 by TAM
soon I'll have a CH-5 and I guess 295 1:1 with 4v ;)

[luihed]

Originally posted by NesQuiK
even if im getting khz3200 i would suggest you mushkin black . they are moer expensive buut better :D

The muskin are good but I wouldnt go saying its better than the HyperX.....look at my sig, tahts done using HyperX 3200......

[NesQuiK]

luihed , whats ure gpu,cpu cooling :slobber: 24k:slobber:

[NesQuiK]

i hope i get 15k with my new rig :D

2.4c + ic7-max3 + khx3200 + ti4200

[st0nedpenguin]

Originally posted by MudWhistle
What stores are you seeing these prices at?, i'm interested myself. My 2*OCZ EL DDR PC 3500 have been sitting on my desk for the past 4 months. (biggest waste of money I have spent on computer parts)

I need new ram :)

What's the problem you are having with that OCZ?

Mine will do 240MHz @ 11-2-2-2 for benching.

[drunkenmaster]

cpulloverclock, what adata is that, is there any very likely to be bh-5 adata? I can get pc3200 or pc4000 in 512 sticks, which i really need.

I'm needing to save as much cash as poss, rules out muskin, probo go for pc3200 hyperx by the sounds of it. But is any adata likely to be a good buy?

[drunkenmaster]

2x512MB 400MHz 2-2-2 KHX3200K2/1G Overdue £220.00
2x512MB 434MHz 2-2-2 KHX3500K2/1G 1 now £210.00
2x512MB 370MHz 2-2-2 KHX3000K2/1G 11 1-3 days £203.00
2x512MB 400MHz 2-3-2 KHX3200AK2/1G 1 now £194.00

okay, this is what i see listed, i guess the 400Mhz, which is deffo not the A kit which is listed further down, is teh bh-5, has the 3500 got any chance of being bh-5 if its rated at 2,2,2 aswell? i'm fine with paying more to be sure, its only a few quid anyway. Though, would i be losing anything going for the pc3000, should be bh-5 aswell right? there isn't much diff in price, but it all adds up.

Can also get the 400Mhz, non a version in single 512 sticks now, 5 in stock, i've never believed there to be anything diff between dual packs, and non dual packs, anyone think there is?

[Soulburner]

2x512MB 400MHz 2-2-2 KHX3200K2/1G Overdue £220.00
2x512MB 434MHz 2-2-2 KHX3500K2/1G 1 now £210.00
2x512MB 370MHz 2-2-2 KHX3000K2/1G 11 1-3 days £203.00
2x512MB 400MHz 2-3-2 KHX3200AK2/1G 1 now £194.00

Highlighted the one :D.

[vyse]

wait a minute ...

you guys are saying kingston doesn't make pc3500 hyper with bh5 chips but you guys are also saying hyper-x pc3500 @ 2-2-2 are with bh5 chips ?

and btw : www.equipemicrosolution.com/pieces.pdf

are selling pc 3500 kingston hyper-x @ 2-2-2

[TechTones]

What chips did the old KHX 3500 use that say "Kingston 4.3"
on them?

Are these Kingstons's chips or what?

[Craig]

I just had to make that choice.

Mushkin Lvl 2 black PC3500 for me.