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snnoopypw
11-23-2008, 01:43 AM
Hello!
I've got a question regarding Asus P5B Deluxe (with BIOS 1236) and temp readings. I just need to be sure.
I've got Intel C2D E6600@default 2.4GHz with Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1000+Sharkoon 120mm attached to it (running ~1000-1500rpm).

Here are the pics of the case, it's interior and exterior:

http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234826_PB230179.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234826_PB230179.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234827_PB230180.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234827_PB230180.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234828_PB230181.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234828_PB230181.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234829_PB230182.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234829_PB230182.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234830_PB230183.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234830_PB230183.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234831_PB230184.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234831_PB230184.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234832_PB230185.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234832_PB230185.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234833_PB230186.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234833_PB230186.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234834_PB230187.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234834_PB230187.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234835_PB230188.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234835_PB230188.JPG)
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t234836_PB230189.JPG (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/234836_PB230189.JPG)

The paste in question is Arctic Ceramique.
This setup has been running for almost a year now. I installed it with instructions from Arctic Silver website (the PDF with instructions for Intel Dual Core). Basically I just applied the paste as they said: in a "line" that follows the dual core configuration beneath the CPU heatspreader.

The thing is that I'm not impressed with temperatures. Idle is around 39-47 (depending on the room temp), under load well over 50. (in latest CoreTemp).
A few days ago I cleaned both the cooler and the CPU with Arctic Clean 1 & 2 following the precise instructions from Arctic Silver webpage.
I then reapplied the Arctic Ceramique but this time I didn't do "the line", I did the usual "small dot on the center", or as they say "pea size amount".

But...i've seen almost no improvement. :/

The case in question is Thermal Rock Ocean Dome:
http://www.revioo.com/articles/a5806_1.html

Full systems specs:

OS: Windows Vista Business 64bit
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600@2.4GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP
Memory: 4x2GB Kingmax DDR2@800MHz
Graphics Card: Point of View GeForce 8800GTS (G92), 512MB GDDR3
Sound Card: ADI SoundMax 5.1 (onboard)
Monitor: Displays Samsung SM 2232BW, 22" LCD
PSU Corsair HX520, 520W modular
Hard Drives Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 (ST3160815AS), 160GB @ SATA-II Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 (ST3320620AS), 320GB @ SATA-II

Now that I'm finally happy with my setup, I want it to be cool and reliable for a long long time.

The reason I'm worried is that if the temps are like this without any OC (on a dual core), what are they going to be when I upgrade to some quad core?
Is the MIDI case the problem? airflow? would upgrading to some big tower solve the issue or something like Antec P182? I really don't know what to do...
I've seen people running mad OCs with this CPU and cooler with lower temps than my nonOC.

what if I want to upgrade someday to quad core (Q9650)? I don't think so...not with these temperatures.

I ran Orhtos for 15min and this is what I've got:

http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t233012_temperaturenakon15minOrthosa.jpg (http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/233012_temperaturenakon15minOrthosa.jpg)

This is just CRAZY!!!


Ninja is slightly warm on the touch, nothing serious. Temp inside the case when I open the back side is warm-ish.

Help me please. I've heard a lot about buggy sensor in P5B series but this seems too much considering SCNJ-1000 which is supposed to be a great cooler.
What to do? upgrade to Antec P182 or should I just stop to worry and continue my work.

inCore
11-23-2008, 04:01 AM
I wouldn't call that a serious problem. First off, is there a temperature difference between having the case open like on your interior pictures and when it's closed?

When you say your idle is 39-47 degrees, that's quite a large difference. What room temperatures are we talking about here?

I wouldn't let this influence your thoughts about upgrading to a quad core at all. Even the stock cooler works and your Ninja is better by far. Maybe you could have a look for some other fans, I don't know how good the fan is that you've attached to the cooler.

snnoopypw
11-23-2008, 07:31 AM
cooler on Ninja is Sharkoon brand. 120mm. to be precise:
"SHARKOON 120mm, 31dB, System fan M"

I haven't really tested the diference between open/close case, but my guess is that the airflow just isn't good enough. :/
My long term thinking is: Antec P182. :)

Waymon3X6
11-23-2008, 08:08 AM
If your load is only 63C then I wouldn't worry about anything - those temps are normal for air.

snnoopypw
11-23-2008, 09:52 AM
ok.

well..thanks for calming me down. :)

doox00
11-23-2008, 06:21 PM
That is a large jump when 'idle' though.. must be some cpu usages to go up into the 40's. My system is idling at 30 on air right now and does not go over 33-35 while browsing the web

cloned
11-23-2008, 06:44 PM
That is really weird, with my ninja ii never got that high(E6750 @ 3.2 Ghz idle 28C, load 56C). Although it was in an antec 900 and my room is always cold. Right now my room is 19C and it gets even colder in December.

Also I'd move it about 6 inch away from your books, I always keep about foot of open air behind my case whenever possible. Seriously though your tempts are fine but I wouldn't OC on those.