The Air is Cooler than the Water.

[Counterpoise]

"You remind me of those people that put 30 inch tires on hondas.
How exactly do you justify spending money on something [TRUE Copper] that is no better than what you already had [Core Contact Freezer], save for the "bling" factor?"



- some poor bloke on EOCF, November 2nd, 2008.


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4171/aircooledxf4.jpg

[cozwin]

CPU Cooling: TRUE Copper(lapped + washer + enzo + GWin 38mm fan) + IFX10

lol do you think youve done enough changes there? i bet if you added total price together for all those bits it would be silly.

[Xcel]

needs more pictures of the cooling ;)

[karateo]

Also with watercooling you get the hot air OUT of the system (and not just from the cpu only).
I need 1.6 vNB to get my 8Gb ram at 1066 with my E8400. Add the 4Ghz of that E8400 and imagine the heat, that the psu and the back 120mm fan had to get rid of.

[Defratos]

I don't get it:confused:, lol what are we comparing? pics would be nice...pics are always nice :up:

[Gautam]

I'll be the first to give you the reaction you were looking for and deserve. :eek:

That's just insane, the clocks, and the temperatures...but what were the ambients?

Either way that's very very impressive.

[Simps]

This is just very good! The best I have ever seen from aircooling so far!
Big congrats on that!

Can you post pics of the system? Is the TRUEcu on push/pull? What are the fans CMF rated at?

[slim142]

35c on load and superclocked, thats just sick man. Im shocked.

[Simps]

ATTENTION EVERYBODY, THIS COULD BE FAKE:

Counterpoise,

I am not jumping into any conclusions yet, and I like to give you a chance to explain yourself. If your results are legit, then please explain this situation.

I really hope you are not trying to be a smart ass here on XS, and fool everyone arround. You are a newcomer to XS, and usually those are the people doing this kinda thing.

Counterpoise
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 18

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3410067#post3410067

I found the thread above, started by you, where you say that your E8600 has stuck sensors. Here it is, in your own words:


"Hello all, I have a problem.

I put in my just-arrived E8600 into my box and booted it up at 4.0ghz with the right voltages, works fine. Temps idle at 21C, max temp w/o fans on is 39C and with fans on go as low as 34C. Temps are also fluctuating as orthos is paging. So I restart the comp and set the speed at 4.3ghz with the same voltages, entered windows, and the temp sensors are stuck at where the 4.0ghz had 100% load temps. And now the temps are totally not moving at all.

Is this how stuck temp sensors "work" or can I fix it somehow? like with a bios flash of my p5q -deluxe? current bios is 1201 and the latest is 1400 something I believe."

This could mean, that those temps of your E8600 @ 4.7GHz aircooled, are not REAL temps, due to your chip having stuck sensors.

[]'s
Simps

[roofsniper]

air cooling has been catching up on watercooling for awhile now. it will probably never be equal until something like that liquid metal cooler gets released or some new kind of technology. i can't justify getting watercooling for performance anymore for myself.

[nullface]

This is just fake, srly, 4.7Ghz on air at 35C Load, you must be kidding me. All other E8600 i ahve seen go past 4.5Ghz had to get more than 1.44V, 1.32? No way.

[STEvil]

Would need about 0-10c ambient to get 35c loaded. Nice cpu, nice clocks, nice volts, nice cooler, but fake temps.

[fatguy1992]

I don't believe this is real, if it is then he must have done it out side a -10C winter or something.

[Simps]

It is real guys, he did it outside on a -20C day, with one of these 4005 CMF monsters.

http://www.bobstevenson.co.uk/images/aluminium_fan.jpg

[fatguy1992]

Lol 4000 CFM :D

[Simps]

Ok, this is more realistic.
Industrial 17cm fan @ 110v / 3200RPM / 2.3KG / 120W, doing 385CMF.

http://www.kooltronic.com/fa-kb653.php

http://www.kooltronic.com/images/kb653.gif

[Spawne32]

It is real guys, he did it outside on a -20C day, with one of these 4005 CMF monsters.

http://www.bobstevenson.co.uk/images/aluminium_fan.jpg

yeh im sure he did it with a blower that puts out enough CFM to blow the heatsink right off the board :rofl:

[Simps]

I am telling ya man...

[fatguy1992]

Ok, this is more realistic.
Industrial 17cm fan @ 110v / 3200RPM / 2.3KG / 120W, doing 385CMF.

http://www.kooltronic.com/fa-kb653.php

http://www.kooltronic.com/images/kb653.gif

Theres a delta fan that moves 367CFM and its only 14CM

[Simps]

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Show me this delta...

[vengance_01]

Fake or un-realistic temps.

[fatguy1992]

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Show me this delta...

Someone here on this forum had some (can't remember who).

I'v searched for ages and can't find any for sale.

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/download/pdf/FFB/FFB140x140x38mm.pdf

I sooooooooooooo want one. I have a 220CFM delta.

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/fatguy1992/?action=view&current=Produce-1.flv

Thats mine ^^^^^^

[roofsniper]

show some pics. the TRUEcu is amazing but im not sure if it could do that.

[STEvil]

Someone here on this forum had some (can't remember who).

I'v searched for ages and can't find any for sale.

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/download/pdf/FFB/FFB140x140x38mm.pdf

I sooooooooooooo want one. I have a 220CFM delta.

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/fatguy1992/?action=view&current=Produce-1.flv

Thats mine ^^^^^^

I have 360cfm 12cm fans... at 36v.

[fatguy1992]

I have 360cfm 12cm fans... at 36v.

OMG really :shocked:

Pics? Video?

Also where did u get them?

[Simps]

I have 360cfm 12cm fans... at 36v.

Holy crap! 360CMF going on a 12cm hole... How loud is that fan? 70dB?
Pics or it didn't happen. Can believe this without pics and the manufactor web site with the fan specs.

[Simps]

I sooooooooooooo want one. I have a 220CFM delta.

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/fatguy1992/?action=view&current=Produce-1.flv

Thats mine ^^^^^^

OMG! It sounds soooo loud on that video, but I bet it is even worst in real life HAEUaehaUEaeua!
But it must be so good to bench with it... Congrats...

[fatguy1992]

Well when i have it running i can't hear anything else (expect my birds). With my IFX-14 its not that great cause the IFX-14 doesn't benefit much more super fast fans. Thats another reason i want a copper true.

Also maybe its a fan like this?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws385ti8YCI&feature=related

[Rmrdr13]

OT: Could that delta lift itself off the ground with enough stabilization?

Since this is a ridiculous thread I was just wondering.

[fatguy1992]

OT: Could that delta lift itself off the ground with enough stabilization?

Since this is a ridiculous thread I was just wondering.

I saw a vid somewhere, where someone strapped 4 together and it worked like a hovercraft. :D.

[Simps]

Well when i have it running i can't hear anything else (expect my birds). With my IFX-14 its not that great cause the IFX-14 doesn't benefit much more super fast fans. Thats another reason i want a copper true.

Also maybe its a fan like this?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws385ti8YCI&feature=related


OMG THIS BEATS EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS HAS TO BE WHAT A 80DB FAN SOUNDS LIKE. I AM PRETTY SURE THIS KINDA NOISE IS SOMEWHERE 80DB OR MORE!

[fatguy1992]

Maybe - I don't know, but u'd want ear protection if u were going 2 use it longer then 5min.