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Walrusbonzo
10-13-2003, 03:39 AM
Does anyone know anything about R413 gas?

The guy who will be fixing my Prommie Mach 1 said it'd be better to use that than r134a and r404a. Is this true?

Would I be likely to have any problems with R413? Any other mods that will be required to use it?
Marci
10-13-2003, 04:15 AM
Certainly NOT better than 404a... have to wait for Bowman for the rest.
berkut
10-13-2003, 04:17 AM
nope.... if its compatabile with the oil in the prommy it would be like 4C better than R134A...

If you have to mod it use R404A
DaBit
10-13-2003, 04:38 AM
I might be wrong, but I thought R413 is meant as a drop-in for R12. In that case you are better off using R404a or R507.
Walrusbonzo
10-13-2003, 04:39 AM
But I'll need extra mods for R404a, anf I'll have LCD problems as the probe wont go below -50c will it?

hmmm
Walrusbonzo
10-13-2003, 04:41 AM
Yeah, both R12 and R22 have been phased out I believe.
berkut
10-13-2003, 05:19 AM
R22 is very good actually, its my "favorite" refrigerant ;]
bowman1964
10-13-2003, 08:01 AM
well here is the specs on all.
i wouldnt waste my time on 413.
you can use 404 without a cap change but you will have to adjust the charge to keep it from flooding the compressor,and it wont get as cold as it will with a cap change
baker18
10-13-2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
r22 isnt that bad right?

That's all I use...............

baker18
Walrusbonzo
10-13-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by bowman1964
well here is the specs on all.
i wouldnt waste my time on 413.
you can use 404 without a cap change but you will have to adjust the charge to keep it from flooding the compressor,and it wont get as cold as it will with a cap change

Thanks, but it'll cost me 4x as much to get it topped up with r404a as the engineer has none :(

R413a it is :)

He's coming to fix it on Wednesday, looking forward to that :)
CodeRed
10-13-2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
r22 isnt that bad right?

Ive used R22 in my prom (extra 220mm cap tube) when I ran out of R404a during some cap tube testing. It worked quite well and held my XP @ -42 deg C full load using 2.1V.

R404a is better though :)