MSI X58 "Eclipse" Triple channel & Gskill 2Gx6

[Toppc]

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http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752002.JPG


BOOT LOGO

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752001.JPG


DR.MOS

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752003.JPG

I/O

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752009.JPG


PCI-E & PCI

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752010.JPG


POWER SE & RESET SW & D-LED2 SW

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/MS752011.JPG


POWER ON

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/I71.JPG


Gskill DDR3 PI 1600 2Gx6

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/I72.JPG


My English degree isn't good, Take it easy on me. :D

[Toppc]

EVEREST MEMORY BENCHMARK 12GB

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/12G19551.JPG

[Toppc]

EVEREST MEMORY BENCHMARK 2GX3 Triple channel DDR3 CL7-7-7-20

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/20080.JPG

[Dee]

Great bandwidth and latency!

[Toppc]

CPU V1.47.3

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/20087.JPG

[Kain XS]

:O
That freq, timings with voltage is crazy!

[neo mike]

That is just insane memory bandwidth wowwww.

:up:

[boblemagnifique]

Héhé good work Toppc , impressive BandWidth with 2x6go !!!

Your English is better with me !!! :D

[superray]

crazy bandwidth

[GazC]

It looks like this platform will fully realise the potential of DDR3! Seems we are going to see another quantum leap in performance.

[ChinStrap]

whoa

[nfm]

No command rate 1? :(

[Garrett]

Yes I'm jealous now lol... very impressive stuff :up:

[Eeky NoX]

GAD!!! Hawfully crazy dude !! :shocked:
Impressive bandwidth and concluant plateforme fa sure...nice perspectives for the year to go ;)

[Ket]

Why in gods name would anyone need 6 memory slots? 8GB+ with 4 memory slots not enough or something? :rolleyes:

[bmc123]

Why in gods name would anyone need 6 memory slots? 8GB+ with 4 memory slots not enough or something? :rolleyes:

It's triple channel so 4 slots wouldn't work. It is kind of a pain though because 6 gigs may not be enough, but 12 gigs is too much and more expensive.

[Slay0r]

Why in gods name would anyone need 6 memory slots? 8GB+ with 4 memory slots not enough or something? :rolleyes:

The whole point of this is triple channel, and you don't get that unless the slots filled are a multiple of 3, i.e. not 4... duh.

Ty for pics Toppc

[Omastar]

Why in gods name would anyone need 6 memory slots? 8GB+ with 4 memory slots not enough or something? :rolleyes:

Triple channel. I suppose they could have 3 in triple channel, and one a different color--aren't they doing that on lower end boards? Lynnfield, I think. Or is Lynnfield dual channel, still?

[YMAA]

6GB is plenty!!

[bmc123]

Does any one know if a kit of 3x2g and a kit 3x1g would work okay together?

[Hutch]

Does any one know if a kit of 3x2g and a kit 3x1g would work okay together?

It would be the same thing as running a 2x2GB kit and a 2x1GB kit together in a current motherboard...

[Kain XS]

Can you try now with 6GB "only" please? It´s still Tripple Channel.

[Oj101]

OMG

20GB/s

*shivers*

And the latency, it rapes anything I've ever seen!

[Oj101]

Can you try now with 6GB "only" please? It´s still Tripple Channel.

He did :D

EVEREST MEMORY BENCHMARK 2GX3 Triple channel DDR3 CL7-7-7-20

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/I7920/20080.JPG

[-n7-]

12 Gb :d

[hendry]

Amazing bandwidth...
I think 6 gigs are totally enough for 80% usage.

[CryptiK]

Really incredible bandwidth & latency :up:

I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.

[Kondik]

I think I just cried while seeing the results ... 20 GB/s + ~_~ Insane

[The-Fox]

Wow !
Insane Results indeed ! I agree with the rest that 12GB is an overkill.

BTW, what would be a comparison for a DDR2 Bandwith/Latency ? about 12GB/s ?

P.S.
The name of the MotherBoard is Eclipse, not Ecliose. ;)

[kaskuli]

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...

[Slovnaft]

are these kind of numbers legal under NDA?

[marmott]

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...

source ?

[WaterFlex]

Holly ****! There are absolutely unbelievable Everest results! Good job.
Congrats MSI. Great mobo.

[RPGWiZaRD]

The MEM performance is the reason I'm interested in i7, nothing else. Bloomfield is too expensive to me tho, I'll wait at least for Lynnfield b4 I might upgrade but I'm in love with the triple channel performance.

And why WOULDN'T 6GB RAM be enough? For me it would be enough at least for 3 years+.

[Zeus]

OMG, next upgrade will burn ahuge hole in my pocket. :D

I can see triple channel kits coming -- no more than 1.65v please. :p:

[Solid Snake]

crazy bandwidth :clap:

congratulations man !!! :up:

[Toppc]

Really incredible bandwidth & latency :up:

I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.

MEMORY IS 1.9V

[Toppc]

I think I just cried while seeing the results ... 20 GB/s + ~_~ Insane

Wow !
Insane Results indeed ! I agree with the rest that 12GB is an overkill.

BTW, what would be a comparison for a DDR2 Bandwith/Latency ? about 12GB/s ?

P.S.
The name of the MotherBoard is Eclipse, not Ecliose. ;)

Have already ask a version tube to help correction ^^

[Kenzy]

Yeah ! Great

[trans am]

MEMORY IS 1.9V

That makes sense for that latency at that speed.
Freaking incredible 12gb of ram at that speed and latency. It freaks me out.

[Cliff Burton]

Damn, 1.352v Vcore for 3615 and 1.400v for 3.734 :S

[Data_]

This is totally amazing bandwith., nice runs.

[Nanometer]

bandwidth is ridiculous, if someone told me we would see scores like that when P4s were about, I would of laughed..

[TheHardCase]

Wow, just unreal...

[bhavv]

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...

Huh???

MSI are awesome. Lower price for top end stuff, and the lollercoasters are pretty and do an awesome job with cooling. They are only going upwards to me, I have no idea why people here dislike them so much.

I was going to skip Nehalem and wait for 32 nm CPU's, but I just might get tempted again by this :p:

But I would like a tripple channel motherboard with just two PCI-E slots, I dont need 3.


I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

Cellshock 1866 Mhz triple channel kits are already available for pre order:

3x1 Gb (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-005-CK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=557&name=Cellshock%203GB%20PC3-15000C8%20Blue%20Edition%201866C8%20(3x1GB)%20Trip le%20Channel%20DDR3)

3x2 Gb (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-004-CK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=557&name=Cellshock%206GB%20PC3-15000C8%20Blue%20Edition%201866C8%20(6x1GB)%20Trip le%20Channel%20DDR3)

Really expensive, I will wait untill the G.Skill 1600 Mhz ram drops in price.

[WaterFlex]

bhavv
Wow, thanks for the links! CellShock is the best! I love very much that tripple sticks.

[bhavv]

I think it will be too expensive for me to upgrade right away. I will wait for price drops, or even try and wait for the 32 nm die shrink in 1-2 years time.

But I can never resist. When I see something I like this much, I want it :(

The minimum DDR3 ram I would want is G.Skill 2x2 Gb HZ, and that still costs a lot. Maybe in 3-6 months time DDR3 will be even cheaper, or whenever I can get premium DDR3 ram for £99 liike my Flex-II's.

[vservera]

OMG!!!! this is some good stuf

[CryptiK]

Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.


Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.

[TheKarmakazi]

Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.

anandtech said that's not really a hard number but has to do more with the amplitude than voltage. They said there are ways to compensate for this but cant talk about it until NDA is lifted. If I had to guess, it's probably not a concrete limit.

[bartx]

Incredible bandwith :eek: I'm waiting for subzero :D

[bhavv]

Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.

In that case I deffinately wont be buying Nehalem.

I'll skip it and wait for the next. The only DDR3 ram you can safely use then is 1333 Mhz, not much improvement from my 1150 to bother upgrading to just for triple channel.

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.

[Hondacity]

wow excellent bw and latency...

bhavy read more stuff...it won't damage the nehalem... there is a workaround by manufacturers..

[bhavv]

More information on the MSI X58 line up here:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8162.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5793

X58 Platinum for me please!!!

[WaterFlex]

TBD goes with 4xPCI-E x16! Woooooow...madness...

[bhavv]

I still prefer the look of my lollercoaster though :(

http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2008/03/08/cebit_2008___msi_x48c_platinum.jpg

I wish I could get exactly the same layout and cooling. Im a copper loop freak.

[makaka]

too slow :-) , u got a crazy system congrats

[slim142]

I CANT BELIEVE THIS
20Gb/s read is just AMAZING!

Can somebodytell me if Tripple channel memory can work as dual-channel mode too?
I might just save the money that I planned on spending on some RAM and save a little more for a Tripple Channel :D

[kaskuli]

Huh???

MSI are awesome. Lower price for top end stuff, and the lollercoasters are pretty and do an awesome job with cooling. They are only going upwards to me, I have no idea why people here dislike them so much.

I was going to skip Nehalem and wait for 32 nm CPU's, but I just might get tempted again by this :p:

But I would like a tripple channel motherboard with just two PCI-E slots, I dont need 3.



Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

Cellshock 1866 Mhz triple channel kits are already available for pre order:

3x1 Gb (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-005-CK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=557&name=Cellshock%203GB%20PC3-15000C8%20Blue%20Edition%201866C8%20(3x1GB)%20Trip le%20Channel%20DDR3)

3x2 Gb (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-004-CK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=557&name=Cellshock%206GB%20PC3-15000C8%20Blue%20Edition%201866C8%20(6x1GB)%20Trip le%20Channel%20DDR3)

Really expensive, I will wait untill the G.Skill 1600 Mhz ram drops in price.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Cellshocks... they have a nasty habit of selling out fast...

[tiro_uspsss]

Can somebodytell me if Tripple channel memory can work as dual-channel mode too?

:rofl: :confused2 :rofl: :p:

[CryptiK]

Ok concerning the 1.65v vdimm can damage the MCH of nehalem, although that's what intel say, apparently if you keep the MCH:Vdimm ratio as close to 1:1 as possible then no damage will result, and a minimally higher vdimm is also apparently ok. The MCH voltage goes up to 1.85v, so perhaps 1.9 - 2.0v vdimm is going to be ok. I guess the guys that upgrade to the new platform and start pushing it long 24/7 can establish this as true or just talk.

[Gen]

I wish I could get exactly the same layout and cooling. Im a copper loop freak.

You mean your an aluminum loop freak.

[bhavv]

You mean your an aluminum loop freak.

Nope, its all copper loops:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5844/dsc00063lh1.jpg.

Pffff.... Aluminium, ewwwww!!!

(Picture to show why I want a lollercoaster again).

I like MSI, but they are now begininning to make their motherboards more normal to fit in with the rest of the crowd.



Information on triple channel kits from OCZ and Corsair:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12756216

http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15971

I'll just be buying another one of these though:

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT25664BA1067

Bah, back in stock and I bought a pair for £54 each :(

[rintamarotta]

It's triple channel so 4 slots wouldn't work. It is kind of a pain though because 6 gigs may not be enough, but 12 gigs is too much and more expensive.

12Gb well for enthusiasts its cheap, i allready got 3 x Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 4Gb Kits.

One thing im shure, im going to blow up my first i7 920's MCH soon as it arrives to my door.

[bhavv]

If you want DDR3 on the cheap, just buy these, invalidate the warranty and remove the stickers / slap on some good heatspreaders:

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2KIT25664BA1339

(I posted the wrong link before to 1066 Mhz modules).

Fully equipped with brilliant D9JNM chips -

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5334/dsc00062by2.jpg

And a decent overclock for a Combo motherboard with only 6 Phases:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9581/1700gw2.jpg (They also do 1600 Mhz 7-7-7-21 with 1.75v, but I didnt screen cap this yet)

Stick em in a Gigabyte or Asus mobo and you should be able to reach 1800+ Mhz.

[Razzz]

Looks like a nice board. Great work with the memory.

[TheKarmakazi]

In that case I deffinately wont be buying Nehalem.

I'll skip it and wait for the next. The only DDR3 ram you can safely use then is 1333 Mhz, not much improvement from my 1150 to bother upgrading to just for triple channel.

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.

That is not the case though. :up:

[bhavv]

Yes, I am ready for a nehalem upgrade, but I wont get it right away on launch, I'll wait 4-6 months for prices to come down. 1.8v on the ram wont damage the CPU right? Because that is how much my sticks are using. But then if the thrird ram module I buy isnt as good as the two I just got ... :down:

[HawaiianSupermn]

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

[DMH]

But 1,7V MCH isn't dangerous for 24/7,from X48 1,7VMCH was alot

[2chesapeakes]

I was torn between this board and the Asus if I don't see some impressive reviews on the Asus board I know what will be in my shopping cart.

[Yellowbeard]

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.
Not so, we'll be doing 1866+ at 1.65v :up:


http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TR3X3G1866C9DF.pdf

[bhavv]

Ewww... Corsair :stick:

How much will it cost? £500?

:down:

Good bare micron D9JNM > All expensive stuff. Even the G. skill 1600 Mhz kit was too expensive for me.

I'll be highly interested if any Ram manufacturer could create some bare modules that can still be protected by warranty if heatspreaders are stuck on.

[Cool Vibrations]

More information on the MSI X58 line up here:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8162.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5793

X58 Platinum for me please!!!

Wow, quad SLI? That's ridiculous. :eek:

Also, would triple channel DDR work with different ram? Let's say (E.g. Two Corsairs and one Patriot at the same speed DDR1333) I'm guessing vendors will start marketing 3/6GB ram now? (3x1gb or 3x2gb)

[Don_Dan]

Also, would triple channel DDR work with different ram? Let's say (E.g. Two Corsairs and one Patriot at the same speed DDR1333) I'm guessing vendors will start marketing 3/6GB ram now? (3x1gb or 3x2gb)

I don't see a problem why it shouldn't work, I have run dual-channel on DDR2 with many different RAM modules, never had issues! :up:

[Cool Vibrations]

I don't see a problem why it shouldn't work, I have run dual-channel on DDR2 with many different RAM modules, never had issues! :up:

Cool, just thought it would be strictly triple-channel with same memory (3x1/3x2) for maximum stability.

[V3NOM]

Wow, quad SLI? That's ridiculous. :eek:

Also, would triple channel DDR work with different ram? Let's say (E.g. Two Corsairs and one Patriot at the same speed DDR1333) I'm guessing vendors will start marketing 3/6GB ram now? (3x1gb or 3x2gb)

they have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147+50008476+1052129233+1052345113&Configurator=&Subcategory=147&description=&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147+50008476+1052129233+1052345114&Configurator=&Subcategory=147&description=&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

:p:

[WaterFlex]

I want these (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=8&sortby=nameAsc&subid=557&mfrid=365) guys for my future X58 system. :)

[Astratuner]

Kingston are the first with 2000MHz rams @ 1.65V

[mpower1001]

Absolutely amazing bandwidth

[GAR]

i hope DDR3 prices come down, my setup should be here soon.

[bhavv]

Kingston win. I'll use my D9JNMs at 1600 Mhz untill 2000+ Mhz 1.65v modules become affordable.

If you want cheap DDR3 right now, D9JNM's are good, £50 per 2 Gb module, and they can do cas 7 1600 Mhz.

I got a pair for £110 and sold my Flex IIs for £97.50.

[vservera]

very nice board, nice scores m8

[BulldogPO]

This is my best shot so far wit CellShock 3x1GB sticks :)
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3202172.jpg