View Full Version : AC, Koolance or Heatkiller?
LonghornN
10-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Hi
What do you think about the Aquacomputer aquagraFX GT200, the Heatkiller GPU-X² G200 and the Koolance VID-428? Which one will be better?
Ac G200
http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/images/artikelbilder/23458_3.jpg
Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X² G200
http://212.227.231.249/watercool/cms/shop_pics/10164%2Dalt.jpg
Koolance VID-428
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/images/more/vid-428_p0.jpg
PD: Yes, Koolance, an I'm very happy with my TNK-200 :)
Sorry for my english.
Big_Daddy
10-07-2008, 10:36 AM
Koolance is the only one that can do SLI (without elbows and prayers)
God, I can't believe I said that.
Eddie3dfx
10-07-2008, 10:40 AM
All 3 are gorgeous.
LonghornN
10-07-2008, 10:44 AM
I thinked about that, and there's a solution
-For the HK:
http://www.watercool.de/online-shop/
http://212.227.231.249/watercool/cms/shop_pics/10190.jpg
-For the AC
http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1934
http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/images/artikelbilder/23463.jpg
Look at this too:
http://eiskaltmacher.de/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=36285&g2_serialNumber=1
If thats true, the HK is the better
The loop will be:
TNK-200 Reservoir-> Laing D5-> TFC 360-> Ybris A.C.S. Black Pearl-> GPU
Sorry for my english
Big_Daddy
10-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Cool.. didn't know that.. well the Koolance and the AC are single slot. The HK isn't (even though it is stunning) Keep that in mind, if you need the slots next to the PCI-E
Eddie3dfx
10-07-2008, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't worry about temps when it comes to gpus, as temps within that range won't be able to overclock better than each other, due to the lack of voltage.
I get better gpu temps on a swiftech mcw-60 than an ek full block, but the exact same overclock and stability.
LonghornN
10-07-2008, 11:15 AM
The motherboard is a P5E64 WS Evolution, and I only need the PCI-E X1 for my X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty. One thing I like about the Koolance one, is that it includes the backplate. If I buy the AC or the HK, I'll need to buy the EK backplate.
RickCain
10-07-2008, 11:35 AM
The motherboard is a P5E64 WS Evolution, and I only need the PCI-E X1 for my X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty. One thing I like about the Koolance one, is that it includes the backplate. If I buy the AC or the HK, I'll need to buy the EK backplate.
If the Koolance 4870 block is like the 4870X2 block, it uses the stock backplate. At least that is what the 4870X2 block did for me.
All three blocks appear to be good choices, now it really is a matter of taste.
LonghornN
10-07-2008, 11:37 AM
Im talking about this:
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/images/more/vid-428_p1.jpg
Zaskar
10-07-2008, 11:52 AM
If that backplate preforms atleast as good as stock thats nice, wont conflict with a Xfi PCIe card like the others kinda do.
Are all those blocks single slot or will they hit the PCB of a card in the slot directly below them?
RealRedRaider
10-07-2008, 11:58 AM
The HeatKiller looks sick...
YugenM
10-07-2008, 12:16 PM
Can't go wrong with a Heatkiller block :up:
BlueAqua
10-07-2008, 02:17 PM
That Heatkiller looks really sweet. Very nice design there I think, aesthetically anyways.
I really like the Aqua Computer block too, especially the holes for the mosfets look sweet. I want to give one a try eventually.
RealRedRaider
10-07-2008, 02:22 PM
I also like those holes on the AC block. :D
What's that graph trying to say? Are the blue bars temps at idle, the red bars under load? Because if so, they aren't remotely believable.
luxbel
10-07-2008, 02:42 PM
Umgebung = environment, according to the fish.
I'm guessing it means the GPU card's ambient temperature, while the red is the GPU core temp. I'm guessing that those numbers are also at idle, since the graph does not say.
NaeKuh
10-07-2008, 03:01 PM
Im talking about this:
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/images/more/vid-428_p1.jpg
OMFG...
i wish we had one for the HD4870X2.
That is the 280GTX backplate for the koolance block.
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=700
Polizei
10-07-2008, 03:32 PM
That AC block looks like it can do SLI... Look at how tall the copper is around the holes compared to the components in the holes. It's thin.
RickCain
10-07-2008, 06:46 PM
OMFG...
i wish we had one for the HD4870X2.
That is the 280GTX backplate for the koolance block.
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=700
No joke! That would look much better than the stock back plate for sure.
LonghornN
10-08-2008, 05:28 AM
One thing that I dont like about the HK are this inlets:
They seem to be restrictive, more than the Koolance.
http://eiskaltmacher.de/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=35083&g2_serialNumber=2
Watch the temps of the VID-428 in this video, what do you think?
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=eoIx849pjgU&feature=related
And yes, that backplate looks great, much better than the stock one.
Nobody likes the Koolance?
Sorry for my english.
Eddie3dfx
10-08-2008, 05:32 AM
I think the new koolance blocks are quite nice, but im impartial to eddy myself.
Armstrong57
10-08-2008, 05:57 AM
Be careful with the Koolance. I have been hearing reports that the plugs used are ferrous material, contributing to corrosion in the loop. I have that block coming today and will be changing out the plugs just to be safe. Otherwise it looks like it's going to be great!
LonghornN
10-08-2008, 06:24 AM
I'll replace the plugs with this ones:
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sidewindercomputers_2018_21988464
RickCain
10-08-2008, 06:58 AM
I'll replace the plugs with this ones:
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sidewindercomputers_2018_21988464
exactly what i did! ;)
KaptCrunch
10-08-2008, 07:08 AM
One thing that I dont like about the HK are this inlets:
They seem to be restrictive, more than the Koolance.
http://eiskaltmacher.de/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=35083&g2_serialNumber=2
thinks as you stepped on the 1/2" ID hose and flatten it out, same surface area of inner perimeter, to me looks more of 3/4" ID tube flatten out.
with header going 90 degree's yes restrictive, would be better to go straight out of header or 45 degree
oops i missed this....the 0-ring is sharing both ports.....not good for flow will take the least resistance bypassing WB, better to have 2 0-ring there
LonghornN
10-08-2008, 09:44 AM
Please guys, if you have any of this blocks, post pics. Is this only me, or the Koolance is beautiful? :)
YugenM
10-08-2008, 11:21 AM
I've got a Heatkiller CPU block, want pictures of that?
LonghornN
10-08-2008, 11:34 AM
Yes please.
NaeKuh
10-08-2008, 11:36 AM
Nobody likes the Koolance?
Sorry for my english.
Very selective.
But the parts i pick from koolance... everyone goes OMG how you do that?!?!?!
:rofl:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0001.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_1153.jpg
the reason why everyone is terrified about koolance again, is because they fooled me and pulled a this:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_1156.jpg
and im not a person a vendor should fool either.
Lucky for us tho, koolance is doing RMA's on all steel plugs if they didnt list it on there site as being steel.
But i give them credit for trying hard. :up:
Armstrong57
10-08-2008, 11:43 AM
Yep, Dean over at Koolance made a post explaining the situation with the steel/brass plugs. They decided to switch to brass in order to accomodate more people, but were still getting shipments of steel plugs. The descriptions on their product listings had changed to brass, but they were sending out a mix of steel parts and brass parts, so if the description was incorrect when you ordered, they'll replace them for you. At least they're trying to straighten it out, I just wish it'd all be brass from now on!
YugenM
10-08-2008, 12:14 PM
Yes please.
White balance took a couple tries to get right, but here you go:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/yug3n/HKresized.jpg
test picture had a cold colour cast and looked crappy so I warmed it up a bit
RickCain
10-08-2008, 12:31 PM
Please guys, if you have any of this blocks, post pics. Is this only me, or the Koolance is beautiful? :)
The Koolance blocks are beautiful!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/rickcain/Computer%20Stuff/IMG_0602.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/rickcain/Computer%20Stuff/IMG_0619.jpg
LonghornN
10-08-2008, 12:39 PM
I like those QD from Koolance, how are they?
I have that reservoir and its nice, no vortex, nice quality, 5 G 1/4" sockets and "invisible" brackets, what else can you ask for it?
That HK waterblock looks nice too
OMG! RickCain, that looks really nice, beautiful! How does it performs?
PS: Good work NaeKuh, but, why that DD block?
century child
10-08-2008, 01:01 PM
I have the heatkiller block. 2 of them actually but only one is mounted at the moment. I just went SLI last week and haven't been able to get to mounting the second one and re-doing my loop yet. Watercool has a really nice-looking and functioning SLI solution called the GPU-X² Dual-Link. They offer it in several configurations but the problem is they left out what is probably the most common 2-card SLI configuration. They did not make one that will work with 2 cards on an Nvidia 780i/790i. I posted in their forum to point this out and they have been really wishy-washy about it, at first saying there are a lot of people asking about it so they really need to come up with a solution, then later saying maybe we will maybe we won't. So, I'm trying to come up with a way at the moment to block the middle openings of the tri-SLI part so that I can use it.
Anyway, the one block that is mounted has been running a couple months and I am very pleased with it. Here is a review that shows the block to be surprisingly unrestrictive: http://eiskaltmacher.de/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1505&Itemid=53 It's a comparison to blocks from EK and Innovatek. It's in German so you will need a translator if you don't speak the Deutsch.
As soon as I can get my loop done with the second card, I will post some pretty pictures.
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