View Full Version : Gods of DDR2 - Crucial Ballistix + Biostar TPower I45
Monstru
09-25-2008, 03:17 PM
After playing over the last few months with Ballistix on DFI Infinity P965-S, Asus Commando, DFI Blood Iron and Asus Maximus Formula, I finnaly feel that I have found a board to suit my beloved Crucial Ballistix PC8500 and PC8000. So tonight, I had a little fun :D
Biostar TPower I45 powah
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Crucial Ballistix PC8500 & PC8000
Single Channel
SuperPI 1M - 4-4-4-12 - 685MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33543&d=1222373080) - DDR2 1370
Valid - 4-4-4-12 - 690MHz (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422725) - DDR2 1380
Dual Channel
SuperPI 1M - 4-4-4-12 - 675MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33544&d=1222373080) - DDR2 1350
Valid - 4-4-4-12 - 666MHz (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422728) - DDR2 1333
Max screen - 4-4-4-12 - 685MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33545&d=1222373080) - DDR2 1370
4 x 1GB
SuperPi 1M - 4-4-4-12 - 600MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33546&d=1222373080) - DDR2 1200
Max screen - 4-4-4-12 - 675MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33547&d=1222373080) - DDR2 1350
Valid 4-4-4-12 there is none, I can't get no file valid between 600 and 675 in CAS4, even though I boot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUonU73WL58) into Windows at 1200 4-4-4
Valid 5-5-5-15 - 700MHz (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422733) - DDR2 1400
CPU-Z and P45 has some serious validation Issues, I have stable clocks where valid is corrupted, and I have a huge distance between max screen and validstion :(
Crucial Ballistix (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33549&d=1222373210) + Biostar I45 (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33548&d=1222373210) = :yepp:
zsamz_
09-25-2008, 03:27 PM
man thats damn nice 4x1 clocking
are they d9gmh or d9gkx??
fatguy1992
09-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Nice :up:
Don_Dan
09-25-2008, 03:42 PM
You got some nice results out of those Crucial kits, I'm amazed by your 4x1GB clocks.
Keep pushing it! ;)
Shiranui Gen-An
09-25-2008, 03:49 PM
After playing over the last few months with Ballistix on DFI Infinity P965-S, Asus Commando, DFI Blood Iron and Asus Maximus Formula, I finnaly feel that I have found a board to suit my beloved Crucial Ballistix PC8500 and PC8000. So tonight, I had a little fun :D
Dang, I'm taking back my I45 and bought a DFI P35 LT T2R because I didn't like the BIOS on the Biostar and the fact that it didn't seem to be playing with my RAM nicely and then you go and post this stuff :eek: What were your BIOS settings?!?!
Monstru
09-25-2008, 04:14 PM
Thx guys :)
Shiranui Gen-An - What settings in particular would you like to know?
Pekalion
09-25-2008, 04:24 PM
Woa man, really good results, but fatastic those with 4x1! Are those a pair of 16FD5? Damn god, I really desperate looking for that kit xD
zsamz_
09-25-2008, 05:41 PM
Woa man, really good results, but fatastic those with 4x1! Are those a pair of 16FD5? Damn god, I really desperate looking for that kit xD
saw the pic they are 16fd3
i have a set of the same they do 1230 2.0v did not test cas4
my 16fd5 hate cas 4
Shiranui Gen-An
09-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Thx guys :)
Shiranui Gen-An - What settings in particular would you like to know?
VDIMM, VMCH, Performance level, RCOMP, basically the settings that affect memory operation.
CryptiK
09-25-2008, 08:00 PM
Very nicely done, that board and ram go very well together for sure, and that ram is excellent.
:D:up:
What vdimm & vNB was used for SuperPI 1M - 4-4-4-12 - 675MHz - DDR2 1350 and also for the 5-5-5-15 - 700MHz - DDR2 1400?
AndrewZorn
09-25-2008, 08:03 PM
I don't get it, I have 4x1gb of Ballistix Tracer and I can barely get them to 1050mhz. Then again, I'm testing for stable...
Monstru
09-26-2008, 01:00 AM
RCOMP for me works best with Configuration 4. Performance level for such heavy stuff is 15. vNB is 1.5. FSB Compensation Finetune - Enabled. DDR2 Enhaced mode - Auto. vDIMM.....is a well kept secret :D
CryptiK
09-26-2008, 01:01 AM
I don't get it, I have 4x1gb of Ballistix Tracer and I can barely get them to 1050mhz. Then again, I'm testing for stable...
I would hazard a guess that you are being limited by your board. If you have the double sided crucial (D9 based) then the ram should have no problem going higher. What can 2 sticks do in that board?
You may want to try increasing the vNB and see if that helps if you really want to go higher. Some boards aren't capable of 525 MHz + when using 4 x 1GB, the only P35 board I know can do 550+ is the DFI P35. P45's seem to be a little more capable concerning 4 x 1GB overclocking.
WaterFlex
09-26-2008, 02:27 AM
Nice Ram.
Monstru
09-26-2008, 05:15 AM
Hey guys, it seems I forgot about CAS 3 :D Does P45 knows what that is? Well...it's not 965, but it goes pretty well:
Dual Channel
3-3-3-9 - SuperPI 1M - 500MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33570&d=1222431204) - DDR2 1000
3-3-3-9 - Validation - 505MHz (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=423008) - DDR2 1010
3-3-3-9 - Max screen - 522MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33571&d=1222431204) - DDR2 1045
CryptiK
09-26-2008, 07:03 AM
I don't know which is more insane, you, or your ram :p: :D
Very nice work indeed. I don't want to know what vdimm that required :p:
Oj101
09-26-2008, 07:35 AM
I do, just as a comparrison. Mine does the validation and PI it at 2.40v BIOS/ 2.46v real and the screen at 2.45v BIOS/2.52v real :up:
Monstru
09-26-2008, 07:58 AM
Sorry, does what at 2.4v? :)
AndrewZorn
09-26-2008, 08:00 AM
I would hazard a guess that you are being limited by your board. If you have the double sided crucial (D9 based) then the ram should have no problem going higher. What can 2 sticks do in that board?
You may want to try increasing the vNB and see if that helps if you really want to go higher. Some boards aren't capable of 525 MHz + when using 4 x 1GB, the only P35 board I know can do 550+ is the DFI P35. P45's seem to be a little more capable concerning 4 x 1GB overclocking.
I don't know which sticks I have because I have the Tracers and can't see under the gaudy heatspreaders... should I remove them?
Unfortunately I'm using dividers, so that might be the problem there. DDR21020 or so at 1:1.2 is fine, but higher is not. My NB voltage is as low as I can get it so that might also be the problem.
Oj101
09-26-2008, 08:15 AM
Sorry, does what at 2.4v? :)
500MHz Pi / 508MHz valid:toast:
Monstru
09-26-2008, 08:18 AM
Yes, with what timings? Please give the complete configuration an screenshot.
Oj101
09-26-2008, 08:28 AM
Yes, with what timings? Please give the complete configuration an screenshot.
Hey guys, it seems I forgot about CAS 3 :D Does P45 knows what that is? Well...it's not 965, but it goes pretty well:
Dual Channel
3-3-3-9 - SuperPI 1M - 500MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33570&d=1222431204) - DDR2 1000
3-3-3-9 - Validation - 505MHz (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=423008) - DDR2 1010
3-3-3-9 - Max screen - 522MHz (http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=33571&d=1222431204) - DDR2 1045
That :rolleyes:
500MHz 2.46v (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422313)
600MHz "high" voltage (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=417271)
mad_skills
09-26-2008, 08:36 AM
600MHz 3-3-3-9 is just plain ridiculous.:D
What vdimm?
Oj101
09-26-2008, 08:40 AM
I'd rather not say :D In the region of 3v though :rolleyes:
Monstru
09-26-2008, 08:55 AM
Rofl....you compare AMD with Intel platforms??? I am talking Intel only here :D
Yes, that 600 3-3-3 on AMD looks very good, but it in a different reference system :)
Try to get this (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=350375) on Intel platform with the same kit :)
Anyway, you also have one hell of a kit :)
mad_skills
09-26-2008, 09:03 AM
I assumed it would be something like that.
Nice score. :up:
Shiranui Gen-An
09-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Great, now I feel like I should give the I45 another chance, but I have it boxed up already, and the Lanparty is already paid for...:doh:
Still, it didn't like the Dominator 1250 kit very much, and the VDIMM adjustment is still too coarse for my liking.
Monstru
09-28-2008, 03:06 AM
Yes, I think they should put out another bios, with more voltage steps in between...
Shiranui Gen-An
10-06-2008, 02:37 PM
Some results with Team Xtreem 8500 D9GMH and the TP45 HP, the I45 should be able to do similar or better: http://happy.ap.teacup.com/occ2/128.html
Gendo
10-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Vdimm? I don't really see the problem in posting it? We all know it's ridiculously high. I just want to know how high:p:
Very nice results nonetheless!
Pcuser
10-08-2008, 08:56 PM
Crazy sticks you have man:)
I thought my crucials were good @662mhz 5-5-4-9:lol2:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/crickey_photos/pifast-1897-E8500.png
Monstru
10-08-2008, 09:57 PM
Well, maybe they can go even higher :)
Pcuser
10-09-2008, 01:02 AM
Well, maybe they can go even higher :)
I will give em a go , 3v should help;)
sTeco
10-10-2008, 05:41 AM
current voltage :p?
Pcuser
10-10-2008, 05:50 AM
current voltage :p?
2.6-2.7:D
Pcuser
10-10-2008, 10:13 PM
Hmm, my sticks dont want to go any further than previous atempts :(
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/crickey_photos/1m-672mhz.png
Didnt like 2.9v at all :rofl:
bartx
10-11-2008, 10:45 PM
I have got similar combo - Ballistix PC8500 and Biostar TP45 HP. I have valid on 1400MHz 5,5,5,18, Dual Channel, 2,5V but Pi 1M is stable on 1398MHz :D I noticed that, increasing NB/SB voltage at this clocks give me more than vDimm. I don't want give more than 2,6-2,7V for my sticks, because I really like them :D
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