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vcp-cur
09-23-2008, 03:14 PM
I'd like to know if this Antec PSU is enough to power the below system.
This pc is build with CounterStrike Source in mind .. no photoshop etc etc, no multi tasking etc etc for now at least.. i went with the p5q pro for a wide path of upgrade posibilities if i want to go quad later on if needed..
Planning on getting around 3 to 3.4 Ghz out of it
anyways. will this psu be enough? if not,any other suggestions?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371007
CPU : E7200
Mobo: P5Q Pro
Mem: 2x2 Gig (4) Corsair PC6400
HDD : WD 640AAKS
Vid : eVGA 9600GT Superclocked
Asus DVD+-R
Thanks.
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It will be fine, Im using a Antec 430Watt (actually Fortron Blue storm 500w just because it looks cooler) for system in my sig
zanzabar
09-23-2008, 03:28 PM
yes it will work but antec isnt a recommended brand, the corsair equivalent is much better and around the same price, and remember that thats 500 peak not sustained
and 4850 is the same price *cough*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253
and so is the 800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133232
both are much faster and about the same wattage
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 04:06 PM
yes it will work but antec isnt a recommended brand, the corsair equivalent is much better and around the same price, and remember that thats 500 peak not sustained
and 4850 is the same price *cough*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253
and so is the 800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133232
both are much faster and about the same wattage
From the Antec's product page:
"....allows EarthWatts to deliver its full rated power (24 hours a day rated at 50ºC)"
Zanzabar, almost every decent PSU nowadays is rated for continuous output, even if the terminology used is "max". Just because some manufacturers does not specify peak ratings It doesnt mean its rating its for peak and not sustained.
BreeSpree
09-23-2008, 04:24 PM
From the Antec's product page:
"....allows EarthWatts to deliver its full rated power (24 hours a day rated at 50ºC)"
Zanzabar, almost every decent PSU nowadays is rated for continuous output, even if the terminology used is "max". Just because some manufacturers does not specify peak ratings It doesnt mean its rating its for peak and not sustained.
Peak means peak, and sustained means sustained. It's not safe, no matter what manufacturers say, to expect a PSU to run at peak 24/7. Also I wouldn't consider this PSU a "decent PSU rated for continuous output". Always go for a PSU about 100 watts higher than you think you will need.
zanzabar
09-23-2008, 04:30 PM
From the Antec's product page:
"....allows EarthWatts to deliver its full rated power (24 hours a day rated at 50ºC)"
Zanzabar, almost every decent PSU nowadays is rated for continuous output, even if the terminology used is "max". Just because some manufacturers does not specify peak ratings It doesnt mean its rating its for peak and not sustained.
thats cool, i remember i got an older antec HE550 and it died with about a 350W, and it was rated at 550W peak and 425W sustained (that # was hidden and a tech gave it). but i guess that they changed
i still say not top tier, and most are rated peak not sustained unless u see sustained or 24/7 rated its not rated for that (IE TT or silverstone)
vcp-cur
09-23-2008, 04:34 PM
thanks for the responses...
the thing is, i already have a 9600gt ..in my current s939 x2 4200+ .. i am wanting to go intel ..i didn't notice a difference in smoothness or fps between the 6800vanilla i had and this 9600gt..so i was like f*ck it ..ima get a new build..the s939 is outdated anyways..will give it to my mom..
so if that antec isn't recommended,which psu would you recommend for the system i mentioned in the thread start?
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 04:37 PM
Peak means peak, and sustained means sustained. It's not safe, no matter what manufacturers say, to expect a PSU to run at peak 24/7. Also I wouldn't consider this PSU a "decent PSU rated for continuous output". Always go for a PSU about 100 watts higher than you think you will need.
Its obvious that each word mean what it means lol, I never said otherwise.
What I said is that, MAX, on its rating (and many other units), does not mean peak, like the manufacturer quote shows.
And I never said that this particular unit is an good unit for constant 100% load. I said most decent units are "RATED FOR sustained operation". Its infact an mediocre PSU, but its not total trash, its an decent low end unit. I simply posted what it is rated for by Antec, unlike what zanzabar said.
Even tho its an mediocre PSU, it should handle your load very well.
I also never said anyone should run their PSU at its maximum capacity. I constantly use/recommend running at no more than 70-80% load. Again, you are just putting words in my mouth.
Reading comprehension is your friend :up:
I would get a better PSU such as THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190017) and I would get a 8800GT or a HD4850, both are around the same price as that 9600GT and both will kick the pants off that 96GT.
vcp-cur
09-23-2008, 05:01 PM
as stated before .. i already have the 9600gt ..
1 more thing.. if the psu has 2 v12 rails .. do i have to combine both in order to get the total amps ? like +12V1@21A, +12V2@22A is that 43A ?
thanks
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 05:03 PM
I would get a better PSU such as THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190017) and I would get a 8800GT or a HD4850, both are around the same price as that 9600GT and both will kick the pants off that 96GT.
Anyone knows who makes this XION XON-630P12N platform ?
A quick search revealed nothing...
I'd get an Corsair 450VX (seasonic platform) or something of well known quality.
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 05:06 PM
as stated before .. i already have the 9600gt ..
1 more thing.. if the psu has 2 v12 rails .. do i have to combine both in order to get the total amps ? like +12V1@21A, +12V2@22A is that 43A ?
thanks
The combined output is usually less than what you get by adding each rails max capacity. You should refer to the PSU specification.
Nasgul
09-23-2008, 05:09 PM
i went with the p5q pro for a wide path of upgrade posibilities if i want to go quad later on if needed..
Then you do not need to get an Antec PSU (they're garbage in my book, 3 I had and 3 broke).
What you need is a PC Power & Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005
Use promo code: pcpc20
Now the price becomes $87.99 and with the $20 rebate you're looking a baddass PSU for $68 (free shipping) which is 100x times better than all the other ones here recommended.
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Then you do not need to get an Antec PSU (they're garbage in my book, 3 I had and 3 broke).
What you need is a PC Power & Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005
Use promo code: pcpc20
Now the price becomes $87.99 and with the $20 rebate you're looking a baddass PSU for $68 (free shipping) which is 100x times better than all the other ones here recommended.
Yes, for this price its an great deal and you would have alot of headroom :up:
thehinge1
09-23-2008, 08:13 PM
FWIW: I like some of Antec's cases but will NOT use their PSU's anymore (it was an ugly failure, but I'm not gonna bash them).
I have two PC Power & Cooling 750W PSU's: One from before the OCZ purchase of the company and one well after. They both are very quiet, very stout rails, and a great warranty from a good company. I'm sure a 610 would drive either of my rigs but I like a quiet system and the fan has never ramped up in either one of the 750's.
burebista
09-23-2008, 10:20 PM
yes it will work but antec isnt a recommended brand, the corsair equivalent is much better and around the same price, and remember that thats 500 peak not sustained
Really (http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=35)?
And the power supply did put out 517.5W of power at 43°C for half an hour without a hitch.
But wait, he can do more (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/526/7).
Antec EarthWatts 500 W provides one of the best cost/benefit ratios for the average user: it is a relatively cheap 500 W power supply that can deliver up to 577 W at 46º C, has high efficiency (between 82% and 87.9% in our tests), very low electrical noise level, is silent and provides two power cables for video cards.
And for OP
I'd like to know if this Antec PSU is enough to power the below system
I'd say yes, it's more (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/2066-antec-earthwatts-500w-power-supply-review.html) than enough.
Even alone, this power supply is a force to be reckoned with; its ripple suppression is top-notch, it barely bats an eyelash when faced with a pair of 8800GTS cards and is quite efficient to boot.
Remember that it's a Seasonic inside. In fact it's the same PSU with Corsair VX450 (Corsair has a 120 mm fan and better capacitors though).
Tonucci
09-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Thats great. For some reason I thought this one was the other antec 500W platform.
Since it is the seasonic one, then its not mediocre like I said earlier, its excellent !
Sorry about the mistake, next time Ill be more careful not to spread misinformation. Someone may buy stuff bases on wrong info.
vcp-cur
09-24-2008, 05:36 AM
i had that same pc p&c in mind previously..i think i should either go with it or the corsair 650 watt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
sdsdv10
09-24-2008, 10:07 AM
i had that same pc p&c in mind previously..i think i should either go with it or the corsair 650 watt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Both the Cosair or PC P&C would make excellent PSUs, the question is do you want to pay the extra $20 for the Cosair unit (maybe as it comes with a cool carrying bag :D )
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-139-005-03.jpg
vcp-cur
09-24-2008, 11:08 AM
plus its 610 vs 650
Tonucci
09-24-2008, 11:58 AM
And the PCP&C one is rated for 40ºc operation, while the corsair units are rated for 50ºc.
Considering that, the capacity difference is more than 40W, with the de-rating curve in mind.
But thats just ratings, I dont know exactly how it translates in real life tests. PCP&C could just be more conservative than corsair with their ratings.....or not :D
In terms of quality both units are top notch.
vcp-cur
09-24-2008, 12:53 PM
alright guys, thank you very much
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