Make me more excited about my Cellshock sticks which arrive tomorrow!

[Ket]

Yes yes ladies and germs my Cellshock PC8000 2gig kit arrives tomorrow and has Micron D9GKX ICs. Make me more excited about them such as what I might get out of them. I'm hoping for 1200MHz+ @ 4-5-4-12 2.3v :D

[RPGWiZaRD]

Hope you get better luck with yours than mine, had a same kit that died within ~2 weeks and used 2.2 - 2.3v. Wouldn't even reach DDR2-1200 5-5-5-x.

[I34z1k]

I somehow doubt that bud. I needed 2.4v for some extremely good GMH to hit 1200c4.

[Ket]

Dang that would suck if they can't do that... :( I've seen a couple reviews where the kit I got coming could do 1125MHz @ 4-4-4 2.2v, so I deff hope with 5-5-5 they can handle 1200MHz..

[RPGWiZaRD]

Dang that would suck if they can't do that... :( I've seen a couple reviews where the kit I got coming could do 1125MHz @ 4-4-4 2.2v, so I deff hope with 5-5-5 they can handle 1200MHz..

What's wrong with 1125MHz 4-4-4-x that's even faster than 1200 5-5-5-x. :p: I think about 1070 ~ 1080MHz 4-4-4-x is pretty much on par with 1200 5-5-5-x. For me anything above 1000MHz CL4 is superb for a 24/7 friendly vdimm setting, mine had trouble going above 1000Mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.2v but I'm sure the ones I got were pretty bad ones if they died in ~2 weeks. Perhaps it was an owner that had them b4 me that returned them but decided to do some quick benchmarks first at 2.5v+. :rofl:

The new sticks I'm getting in return are pretested units directly from CellShock, I just hope the RMA package arrives in Ireland shipped from Finland first...

[Infa]

yep 5-5-5 yeh, but not CL4, take alot more vDimm(hence me not meaning 1v)

my Crucial sticks made CL5 1200 at about 2.2-2.3 . as all Micron.. CL5 at 1200 are good enough for everyday usage, and CL4 should be used at benching...couse of the Voltage, i killed my DDr2 sticks 2 after some months using 2.2-2.3, and couple of hours at 2.5.2.6.

be careful with the voltage i say :)

[Ket]

I want 1200+ @ 5-5-5 just because I'm going to be using very high FSBs when my E82\400 arrives :D I like the headroom to "twiddle" with things :cool:

[Shiranui Gen-An]

This Guy (http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~yossya/CellShock8000.html) needed 2.55V to reach 600MHz CAS4 with his Cellshock 8000 C4 kit, but he did it, so there is hope.

[systemviper]

so your getting some from memoryc, i was just debating between the

2GB CellShock DDR2 PC2-9200 1150MHz (5-5-5-15) Dual Channel kit $106.50

or

2Gb CellShock DDR2 PC2-8000 1000MHz (4-4-4-12) Dual Channel kit $ 75.97

I am very interested to see how you make out, keep us posted...

thanks/steve

[zsamz_]

i got a 2 sets of d9gkx last week n 1 was doa:rofl:
a good set of d9gmh is as good especially if you do 1250mhz with 2.05v:D
you gonna need 2.4v+ for 1200 cas4
if you wanna play with the big boys hope you got spares:rofl:

[dinos22]

if you wanna play with the big boys hope you got spares:rofl:
:rofl:

[Dee]

Yes yes ladies and germs my Cellshock PC8000 2gig kit arrives tomorrow and has Micron D9GKX ICs. Make me more excited about them such as what I might get out of them. I'm hoping for 1200MHz+ @ 4-5-4-12 2.3v :D

Mine will be here tomorrow too, hopefully. If not, it'll be Tuesday. Keep us updated and let us know how they're doing, Ket!

[Dee]

What's wrong with 1125MHz 4-4-4-x that's even faster than 1200 5-5-5-x. :p:

You sure about that? I can imagine that may be so on an AMD system, but an Intel? I thought higher bandwidth was better than tight timings? Even on an AMD I'd still go for the 1200 @ CAS5 over 1125 CAS4.

[Ket]

i got a 2 sets of d9gkx last week n 1 was doa:rofl:
a good set of d9gmh is as good especially if you do 1250mhz with 2.05v:D
you gonna need 2.4v+ for 1200 cas4
if you wanna play with the big boys hope you got spares:rofl:

Actually, I'm sensible :p: I'm also far more impressed with 24\7 results than "suicide" runs.

[CryptiK]

I got 2 of those PC8000 CL4 GKX kits the other day.They both work and will do speed/voltage in sig completely (games, orthos, linpack, memtest etc) stable, which is my 24/7 setting for my TG ram. The one Cellshock kit I tried at 601 MHz CL5 @ 2.1v booted without issues but I didn't test for stability and I have not had time to see what they will do completely stable on a reasonable voltage yet.

I hope you get a decent kit.

[Dee]

I'll be happy if mine can hit 1154-ish, cause my CPU maxes out at 433 x 10 without going over 1.4V, so 1154 is the next step up from 1040 which I'm currently using on the Ballistix. If it can do 1154, and if my machine can boot with both sticks installed, I'll be happy. I don't care so much about timings.

[Praz]

Mine are fully stable at 1200MHz using CAS 5 at 2.0V. I would think you will have no problems at the speeds you are looking for.

click for larger image
http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/x48ut/e8400/1200cs/xp/1200_memtest_xp_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/x48ut/e8400/1200cs/xp/1200_memtest_xp_l.jpg)

[Dee]

Sounds good to me, and sensible voltage too. :)

[zsamz_]

Actually, I'm sensible :p: I'm also far more impressed with 24\7 results than "suicide" runs.

well i been doin 1200++ 24/7 5-5-5-15-4-28 for 9+ months now :rofl:
1120 cas4 is ok for 24/7 need 2.32v anything over 2.35 is risky for d9gkx
suicide runs to me is over 1300mhz or 1200+ cas4

[OgaiB]

Yes yes ladies and germs my Cellshock PC8000 2gig kit arrives tomorrow and has Micron D9GKX ICs. Make me more excited about them such as what I might get out of them. I'm hoping for 1200MHz+ @ 4-5-4-12 2.3v :D

My friend some results on this rams:
RAM Speed : 470 MHz (1:1) @ 3-2-2-1
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=415734
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1419/470ed4.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=470ed4.jpg)
RAM Speed : 621.4 MHz (3:4) @ 4-4-4-12
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=415747
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4665/621su4.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=621su4.jpg)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4305/26591229wb3.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26591229wb3.jpg)

[Dee]

Sick!

[Ket]

Good stuff, looks like this kit should do what I'm ideally looking for (1200, 4-4-4) kit hasn't arrived today yet, but theres still a few hours before it can be said they wont arrive till tomorrow.

[Shiranui Gen-An]

well i been doin 1200++ 24/7 5-5-5-15-4-28 for 9+ months now :rofl:
1120 cas4 is ok for 24/7 need 2.32v anything over 2.35 is risky for d9gkx
suicide runs to me is over 1300mhz or 1200+ cas4

So GKX should last longer at higher voltage than GMH?

[zsamz_]

So GKX should last longer at higher voltage than GMH?

in most cases yes they like the volts
my hyperx d9gkx wont even boot below 2.1v
but put the d9gkx in a gigabyte board n pray they last longer than 5 weeks:rofl:
knock on wood i got no dead d9 since i gave my gigabut board to my son but it killed a set of his promos:rofl: n now he got my redline lest see hoe long those last in that board

[loc.o]

Not even sure what vdimm i used for cas4 but it was over 2.5v...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/6104-4-4-121MCELLSHOCKC4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/676mhz.jpg

[CryptiK]

No difference IMO, they are essentially the same chips, they are simply binned differently, that's it. They are made on the same process from the same wafer, and as such neither one will be more or less resilient to voltage. It's like comparing a 45nm e8400 to a 45nm e8500 and asking which will take more voltage. They are the same.

Edit - nice work loc.o :up:

[zsamz_]

Good stuff, looks like this kit should do what I'm ideally looking for (1200, 4-4-4) kit hasn't arrived today yet, but theres still a few hours before it can be said they wont arrive till tomorrow.

just make sure you cool them they get hot

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I've said it about a billion times, but I wish I had gotten the Cellshock 1150 instead of the 1000 CAS5 or the Team Xtreem 1200 kit I got with the flaky stick. For some reason, it seems only my Striker Extreme can run them stable at 600MHz CAS5, but I have to set voltage to 2.35 (~2.41 real). Neither my P5B-Dlx nor my Maximus seem to like them very much that high no matter how much voltage I feed em. I might need to loosen tRFC, as the Striker had it set in the 60s while auto on the Intel chipsets seems to be 42.

[WaterFlex]

CellShock produces the best memory sticks in the world :) And CellShock "Red Devil" is the king of DDR2 :)

[I34z1k]

CellShock produces the best memory sticks in the world :) And CellShock "Red Devil" is the king of DDR2 :)

You consistantly manage to make idiotic, fanboistic posts. Really, it's getting quite annoying. If Cellshocks are so amazing, please link me to some of the WR's where it was used?

[WaterFlex]

I34z1k
Mate, launch the IE and search. The most often records are about CellShock.

[I34z1k]

No sorry, to my knowledge they are all crucial, 836c5, at least 720c4, and at least 627c3. I see no Cellshocks there.

[WaterFlex]

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=340795

[I34z1k]

Yes? Nothing even remotely special there :\ I'd have first place in all the ddr2 categories anyway. Some of the C4 is good, but 2.75v? I nearly have 700c4 1m at less volts.

[CryptiK]

To my knowledge, these are the CL 5 WR's

Single Channel DDR2 WR (836.9 MHz):
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=314560

Dual Channel DDR2 WR (805 MHz):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=159942

[WaterFlex]

Wow! Crucial really rox!
CellShocks are too expensive. That is why not all people can have and oc them. So we can`t see WRs with CellShock:D

[I34z1k]

Don't make excuses. Crucial have made some of the best sticks ever. Yes Cellshocks are good, but not the best.

[Dee]

Guys, no need to make it into a pissing contest. Jesus...

CellShock = like hand picked Crucial with better heatspreaders and 8-layer PCB's.

[Ket]

just make sure you cool them they get hot

Yeah I know they get hot. I used to do some stuff for Mushkin and I got sent some XP8000 Redlines with D9GMH, had those babies doing 1180MHz @ 4-4-4-12 2.5v. I think I could run them 2.2v 5-5-5-12 @ 1180MHz too. That kit is long since dead now tho, heatspreaders on them were good, but they generated a "hotspot", which ended up killing one stick while the other wants about 2.1v+ these days to boot.

[Ket]

Cellshocks just arrived :up: already installed and running 5-5-5 1143MHz 2.2v. No pussyfooting around today I'm hitting them hard and gonna see what they can do @ 2.2v :cool:

[dinos22]

slap 2.7v and let's see what these sticks can really do :yepp:

[Dee]

Got mine too, YAY! But motherboard has a fault and I can't use both sticks. BOOOO! Had same problem with Ballistix and a kit of OCZ.

RMA time. See you guys later.

Ket, hope you have fun with your CellShock! ;)

[Ket]

slap 2.7v and let's see what these sticks can really do :yepp:

Extremely diminishing results past 2.55v I'd say. Had some D9GMH before, anymore than 2.55v wasn't worth it.

Heres a quick screening, gonna push for 1216MHz in a bit :D

[CryptiK]

Not that I want you to abuse your sticks, far from it in fact, but these sticks are guaranteed GKX, and they have been known to scale better than GMH, especially upwards of 2.5v. They may not of course, and that voltage will degrade any D9 rapidly, and you should probably not run 2.4v+ if you want them to survive for a while, unless they are just purely for benching and pushing hard. However you should be able to get some very respectable results at 2.4v or under. I have 2 kits of the same CellShock you just got, but I'm yet to test it out properly, I have just verified it works, and put them back in their boxes. Good luck on your 1200 CL4 quest.

[Ket]

The ICs are cut from the same wafter as GMH so I dismiss the "scaling better" as myth. I will be playing more with the sticks before formatting though (tried something, corrupted windoze lol. On a quick repair job atm) theres one more thing I can try to get 1206MHz stable, but if that doesn't work.. more BIOS modding time or if I'm lazy just a whole new mobo :p:

[CryptiK]

Yeah, they are from the same wafer as GMH and are simply a different speed bin. I have heard certain people say they had better results but I have not experienced it personally and also dismiss it as myth, I was just stating anecdotal reports of the phenomenon.

[Ket]

Looks like I'll be BIOS modding putting the latest P5Q Premium memory table in place of the Maximus 2 Formula memory table. Premium supports D9JKH, so I'd think its the best candidate to get the best results with GMH and GKX. Currently I think my kit is topping out too low for D9s, so the fact the Maximus table doesn't support any D9 IC, its probably why my kit has such low scalability.

[CryptiK]

I have the same issue with my M2F, any chance you may be able to pass on to me a modded bios for it? :D I'd really appreciate it, 1220 is my current max with 2 kits of GMH I know do 1333 MHz, and the GKX I have not yet tested but expect the same results from.

EDIT - I was actually going to PM you tonight about the issue, and ask you if you would make me a special bios for my M2F if you had the time and the inclination :D

[Ket]

Sure, I'll base your custom BIOS around build 1307 which is seemingly the latest available beta. Memory table with be from P5Q Prem 1401, along with the usual customary tweaks and compatibility additions. Oce its done I'll upload it in the P5Q mod thread ;)

[CryptiK]

You're a champion, I really appreciate it, thanks mate :up: Also bios 1307 for M2F is legitimate now and available from Gobal Asus website, it's the bios I'm running right now.

[Ket]

All done. Go get it in the P5Q mBIOS thread :up:

[CryptiK]

:up:: :D

Thx mate. Let me know how it goes if you test it before tomorrow, I can't test it tonight, have to go crash I have an early start.

thanks again, you're an invaluable addition to this forum.

[Ket]

Flashed to a modded 1307 P5Q Pro BIOS which uses the P5Q Prem mem table plus all the usual customisations, and just like that heres the results :D memory is still @ 2.2v.

[CryptiK]

Nice, so that's a MIIF running a modded P5Q-Pro bios? Could you not hit 1200 with just the MIIF bios? If you do happen to try the modded MIIF bios you did for me, post a result here I'm eager to see what kind of difference it makes.

[Ket]

I'm using a modded P5Q Pro 1307 BIOS. The P5Q Prem memory table makes a huge difference from the M2F memory table, 1143MHz > 1200MHz @ 2.2v. My next step will be trying to get 425FSB stable, that allows me to run max CPU and FSB frequency. I could prob get more out of the CPU but the IHS on my E44 is fitted very low, can't even get a stanly blade under :(

[WaterFlex]

Ket
Congrats with CellShocks holding.
If you are not against it, i`d like to share my oc with CellShock:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6453/newvoltageon0.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newvoltageon0.jpg)

[Ket]

Bravo :clap: Not sure If I will be able to crack 10k bandwidth with my CPU, but I'll give it a stab. Might try removing the IHS again, but it was pretty futile last time. Stanly blade wouldn't creep under.

[Ket]

Well after quite a lot of playing around I have concluded the top speed for these sticks is about 1100MHz. They can boot at much higher frequencies however I fear my CPU has issues with extremely high memory frequencies in some way. E7200\8200 will be ordered soon :D

[ahmad]

You are running some aggressive timings there. Why not give a higher trfc and trrd a chance :)

[Dee]

I'm finally up and running with the CellShock. It's working pretty good so far. Currently running at 1154, 5-5-5-15, 1.90v, PL7, drive strength set to most aggressive setting, all Pull-Ins enabled. This is sweet stuff. MemTest stable, Pi 32M stable, so just a few more tweaks and tests and I'm done. What I can't work out is why my Pi 32M time is a little slower (11:54 now, 11:46 before) even though I have higher bandwith and more aggressive BIOS settings. Also, I keep having CheckDisk popping up on every restart?

[gregorisvas]

Guys..The CellShock 1000 cl4 that are currently on sale have D9GKX or something else?Cause rumour has it that only the red have GKX...:(

[Dee]

I haven't heard such a rumor. The PC2-8000's are GKX according to every source I've found. Whatever they are, they certainly perform well!

[gregorisvas]

I do hope so..They told me that only the red's have GKX and the others that cost less (99 euros Cellshock red vs. 69 euros Cellshock 1000 cl4) don't... My Crucial Ballistix died and the only thing I can buy at 70 euros are these Cellshock...

[Dee]

CellShock told you themselves that the PC2-8000's don't use GKX?

The store where I bought mine are advertising these sticks as GKX. My particular kit was made in week 21 2007, according to CPU-Z. So maybe the more recent batches have different IC's?

[gregorisvas]

So maybe the more recent batches have different IC's?

Thats why I ask :) Maybe the recent ones have different IC's...Maybe thats why they're so cheap..I dont know :(

[Dee]

It would be a real shame if they are not GKX! :(

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I highly doubt they are anything but GKX. Cellshock certainly doesn't have anything different up on its site: http://cellshock.flagbit.com/en/products/ddr2/ddr2-1000-cl4.html

[systemviper]

at memoryc.com they tell you the exact chips you are getting.

I just ordered the 2GB CellShock DDR3 PC3-15000 1866MHz (8-8-8-16) Blue Dual Channel kit (Micron D9JNL)
from memoryc.com , they just arrived today :up:

and i was lucky to find a few sets on NewEGG of CORSAIR Dominator (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1250 (PC2 10000)

Its gonna be a fun week. woot!

[Dee]

at memoryc.com they tell you the exact chips you are getting.



Yep, that's where I got mine.

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html

[Shiranui Gen-An]

and i was lucky to find a few sets on NewEGG of CORSAIR Dominator (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1250 (PC2 10000)

Its gonna be a fun week. woot!

My Team Xtreem 9600 kit is on its way back to merry Ireland (RMAd to MemoryC) but I also have one of those Dominator kits waiting for me at my parents' house :D

[RPGWiZaRD]

Yep, that's where I got mine.

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html

Man for that price I might have to grab this kit as well. I already have a Cellshock PC8000C5 D9GKX kit I'm waiting to get replaced and also a Cellshock D9GMH PC2-6400 C4 kit I bought which should arrive maybe tomorrow, depending on how that kit clocks I'll decide whetever or not to pick up this DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 kit as well as that's really what I'm looking for anyways a kit that is 4-4-4-x capable at 1000 at preferable 2.2v or less (a plus if DDR2-1200 5-5-5-x is possible of course :p). Seems like the prices are dropping all the time on that site, that CL4 1000 kit was expensier when I ordered the D9GMH PC2-6400 kit a week ago or so but if it had costed what it does now I had definitely picked this. Oh well I've had great success with my Team Xtreem D9GMH so maybe these Cellshocks also will. Still the binning that they prolly use to determine what kits it should be sold as bothers my mind... the sticks that clocks best prolly gets binned as the CL4 1000 kit or then the Red devil 1150 CL5 kit. Do you think the Cellshock PC2-6400 CL4 kit is DDR2-1000 @ 4-4-4-x capable at 2.2v? Any1 got any results for these.

[Ket]

CellShock told you themselves that the PC2-8000's don't use GKX?

The store where I bought mine are advertising these sticks as GKX. My particular kit was made in week 21 2007, according to CPU-Z. So maybe the more recent batches have different IC's?

Same here 21\07. I have recently taken my Cellshocks to a m8s and borrowed his nf570 to edit trc on the modules spd data. Changed trc to 28 @ 266 and 42 @ 400. Settings should be very good for some good clocking with tight latencies :toast:

[Dee]

Do you think the Cellshock PC2-6400 CL4 kit is DDR2-1000 @ 4-4-4-x capable at 2.2v?

I'm not sure about that, being new to CellShock myself since very recently. I love this stuff already, though.

depending on how that kit clocks I'll decide whetever or not to pick up this DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 kit as well as that's really what I'm looking for anyways a kit that is 4-4-4-x capable at 1000 at preferable 2.2v or less

I'd imagine it will do it easily. I have this kit at DDR-1154 on only 1.90v right now, although it's 5-5-5-15. DDR-1000 4-4-4-x @ less than 2.2v? Easy! Buy it!

[Dee]

Same here 21\07. I have recently taken my Cellshocks to a m8s and borrowed his nf570 to edit trc on the modules spd data. Changed trc to 28 @ 266 and 42 @ 400. Settings should be very good for some good clocking with tight latencies :toast:

Nice! Good luck, Ket!

[Ket]

Man for that price I might have to grab this kit as well. I already have a Cellshock PC8000C5 D9GKX kit I'm waiting to get replaced and also a Cellshock D9GMH PC2-6400 C4 kit I bought which should arrive maybe tomorrow, depending on how that kit clocks I'll decide whetever or not to pick up this DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 kit as well as that's really what I'm looking for anyways a kit that is 4-4-4-x capable at 1000 at preferable 2.2v or less (a plus if DDR2-1200 5-5-5-x is possible of course :p). Seems like the prices are dropping all the time on that site, that CL4 1000 kit was expensier when I ordered the D9GMH PC2-6400 kit a week ago or so but if it had costed what it does now I had definitely picked this. Oh well I've had great success with my Team Xtreem D9GMH so maybe these Cellshocks also will. Still the binning that they prolly use to determine what kits it should be sold as bothers my mind... the sticks that clocks best prolly gets binned as the CL4 1000 kit or then the Red devil 1150 CL5 kit. Do you think the Cellshock PC2-6400 CL4 kit is DDR2-1000 @ 4-4-4-x capable at 2.2v? Any1 got any results for these.

That 6400 kit will probably top around 1100 5-5-5 @ 2.2v, so you may be able to get 1000 4-4-4 @ 2.2v. From everything I have been able to find the PC8000 kit does 1200+ 4-4-4 @ 2.2\3v.

[Ket]

Nice! Good luck, Ket!

Just tried a quick test, booted right up @ 4-4-4-12 1040MHz 2.1v :up: Going to nudge up to 2.2v and see if I can push my luck to 1150+ @ 4-4-4-12 and loosen a few secondary timings a bit if needed. So far looks like the trc editing has allowed the modules to breath.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Well I give them a shot before I decide whatever or not I'll buy the CL4 1000 kit. If they do 1000 4-4-4-8 @ 2.2v I'm perfectly satisfied. The Cellshock P8000C5 D9GKX kit I had pretty much sucked though, my Team Xtreem DDR2-667 3-4-4-8 D9GMH kit did better at both CL4 and 5 overclocking even (1000 4-4-4-8 2.2v and ~1150 5-5-5-15 2.2v or with single stick up to ~1200 was capable to when the Cellshocks needed 2.25v+ for same speeds) and the fact they died in matter of 2 weeks, makes me a bit uncertain if this mobo likes D9GKX sticks at all.

[Dee]

2 weeks? Eeek! Comments like this remind me why I won't pump tons of voltage through these things. 1.9v should hopefully mean they will last a long time. I don't have active cooling so I gotta play it safe.

[Ket]

Abit boards have a tendancy to suck unfortunately, they clock horribly with decent memory but go and shove some cheap :banana::banana::banana::banana: in them and they love the crap.

[RPGWiZaRD]

2 weeks? Eeek! Comments like this remind me why I won't pump tons of voltage through these things. 1.9v should hopefully mean they will last a long time. I don't have active cooling so I gotta play it safe.

Nah don't worry I might have gotten some kit that was returned but the owner decided to do some 2.5v+ benching first. :rofl:

Doesn't D9GKX tolerate voltage better though? One of my Team Xtreem D9GMH stick which is 1200 5-5-5-x 2.2v (or maybe even less) capable is still in perfect condition after 3 years of usage at 2.2v (active cooling used). The other stick has recently got booting issues but when I got it to boot it worked perfectly ok, recently it's gotten worse though and now it's almost impossible to boot with that stick and I gave up trying, hench I'm in this dilemma to get a good enough kit to be able to run at least as same speed as the Team Xtreem as I'm that kinda person who cannot satisfy with less than what's already been achieved before.

Ket> Yea I'm not very satisfied with this board although it's highly popular and loved P35 board. It's not the board to have for people loving to overclock ram and tweak around with settings and stuff. It's got quite nice efficiency and dual core CPU overclocking capabilities though. For example I get ~9950MB/s read and 49ns latency at 500x8 1:1 4-4-4-8 25-11-11-5-5 whereas I saw some previously posted Maximus II user only had just below 9600MB/s read and 53ns latency with similiar settings and setup. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3293211&postcount=56 But it's Vista too and I use XP SP3 and P35 vs P45, I doubt he uses PL7. :p

Here's my result at the similiar settings for reference:

[zsamz_]

Abit boards have a tendancy to suck unfortunately, they clock horribly with decent memory but go and shove some cheap :banana::banana::banana::banana: in them and they love the crap.

dfi is good but plays nasty with d9gkx cant go above 1100mhz
best setting for me is cas3 with d9gkx
but it love my d9gmh :D

[RPGWiZaRD]

D9GMH ftw! Haha I'd love to have a kit like that but I don't think it does that quite at anywhere near 2.2v though. :rofl:

Maybe DFI and Abit have the same problem with D9GKX? Oh well hopefully tomorrow I might have an answer. Getting bored running with 1GB in single channel, can't play any new PC games decently without stuttering. :rolleyes:

UT3 which I play most often is possible but at 1024x768 res. :rofl: Lucky me I'm a CRT user.

[Ket]

I never like how some manufacturers focus on say D9GMH compatibility but do naff all for ICs which are just as good like D9GKX.:down:

[gregorisvas]

Just got my Cellshock..According to cpu-z they are (like yours) weak 21 of 2007..So...Most likely they are GKX...Question..GKX Ic's are smaller than GMH but....fatter?:P I compared the Cellshock's ic's with my Team Xtreem 8500 GMH ic's and i saw that difference..
Oh..I have them together with my Corsair Dominator PC10000 and they do 1000 4-4-4-12 with 2.1v :)

[RPGWiZaRD]

OK got the Cellshock PC2-6400 4-4-4-12 D9GMH kit now and I tried first running DDR2-1000 4-4-4-8 35-12-12-5-5 2.2v config and it passed SuperPi 32M so that's a good start. I will try and lower TRFC to 30 and later 25 to see if they're capable of the same very tight timings my Team did and also lower tWTR and whatever the other was called from 12 to 11 and possibly try lower the voltage one step or two. Later I might attempt for DDR2-1200 with very slacky timings at 2.2 - 2.25v. I'm only interested in 24/7 stable configs so won't go above those voltages.

Seems like this board really does corporate better with D9GMH than D9GKX sticks. The package for this kit was way better than the 1000 CL5 kit which is among the worst packages for ram kits I've ever seen. Also the heatspreaders looks better attached than the previous Cellshock kit.

EDIT: Well it didn't turn out to be any good kit at all, it won't pass memtest nor UT3 at 4-4-4-x 1000 not even at 2.225 ~ 2.25v. Need to satisfy with 5-4-4-10 times with this kit for 1000, Sigh.

[Ket]

IF you want I could edit the speed data on your modules and you could give that a shot before giving up completely. Just get a speed dump with spdtool and attach it here :toast:

[Shiranui Gen-An]

The package for this kit was way better than the 1000 CL5 kit which is among the worst packages for ram kits I've ever seen. Also the heatspreaders looks better attached than the previous Cellshock kit.

You mean they weren't packaged like these (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/464/2/)? My 1000 CAS5 kit had that same packaging.

[Dee]

Mine came in a black box with a little plastic tray for each stick. I got a nice CellShock logo bubble sticker too. Yippeee!

[CryptiK]

Same here, both my kits came in the black box with central plastic window, and each stick was in it's own tray and i got the stickers too. Perhaps you got a really old version of them RPGWiZaRD.

[RPGWiZaRD]

IF you want I could edit the speed data on your modules and you could give that a shot before giving up completely. Just get a speed dump with spdtool and attach it here :toast:

That would be great but are you sure you know what you're doing so they don't become unbootable. :rofl: Attached a spd dump.

You mean they weren't packaged like these (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/464/2/)? My 1000 CAS5 kit had that same packaging.

Yea that's how the PC2-8000 CL5 kit was packed like that I sent in for RMA, very poor IMO.

Mine came in a black box with a little plastic tray for each stick. I got a nice CellShock logo bubble sticker too. Yippeee!

Yep that's how the PC2-6400 CL4 kit I just got was packed like too.

Since I'm getting a new mobo DFI UT P35-T2R and not really satisfied with my current kit should I simply order the Cellshock PC2-8000 4-4-4-12 kit which pretty much is rated for the speed I'd like as minimum. Now zsamz says the DFI board doesn't clock very well with his D9GKX chips but it should be no prob to get them to run at the stock speeds though right? I'll wait a few days until the DFI board arrives to see how it clocks the current D9GMH kit first though and if I can test the modified spd file first perhaps. I don't like ending up in a never ending RMA-cycle. I'd just wanna find a kit that is as good as my old Team Xtreem's xD.

It's a shame with the binning which wasn't a problem with the first D9 kits, I mean how often would you find today some DDR2-667 kit that would clock to DDR2-1200 speeds or 1000 4-4-4-x capable at rated stock voltage? Today it seems you'll have to order some of the best D9 kits in order to be able to achieve this, ie DDR2-800 3-3-3-x, DDR2-1000 4-4-4-x or DDR2-1150+ kits mainly.

[CryptiK]

Just did this with my CellShock PC8000 CL4 GKX kit on 2.2v real :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3310954&postcount=75

[RPGWiZaRD]

Just did this with my CellShock PC8000 CL4 GKX kit on 2.2v real :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3310954&postcount=75

Now I don't think I can't refuse to order one kit for me as well even if it would clock bad on the DFI board it's worth it for 62 EUR only. :)

[Praz]

Now I don't think I can't refuse to order one kit for me as well even if it would clock bad on the DFI board it's worth it for 62 EUR only. :)
I have never got my Cell Shock to run decent on any of my DFI UT P35-T2R boards. Not until the newer boards with DS/DDS and DLL models unlocked has the memory been anything other then at or below average.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I have never got my Cell Shock to run decent on any of my DFI UT P35-T2R boards. Not until the newer boards with DS/DDS and DLL models unlocked has the memory been anything other then at or below average.

All I want is DDR2-1000 4-4-4-x with pretty tight subtimings or DDR2-1200 5-5-5-15 with very slacky subtimings at 2.2v or less vdimm required. It should be able to do this at least? What RAM works great on this board btw.

[Praz]

All I want is DDR2-1000 4-4-4-x with pretty tight subtimings or DDR2-1200 5-5-5-15 with very slacky subtimings at 2.2v or less vdimm required. It should be able to do this at least? What RAM works great on this board btw.
1000/4-4-4 might be doable. 5-5-5 I never got more then 1080-1100 without a massive amount of voltage. Timings themselve never seemed to make much of a difference to the end result. It seemed more like the way the PCB was loading the circuit. By comparision the sticks will do 1200 with 2.0V or less on DFI boards that have DS/DDS and DLL models unlocked. Some Abit boards had the same issue with GKX modules.

[Ket]

That would be great but are you sure you know what you're doing so they don't become unbootable. :rofl: Attached a spd dump.

Done. And of course I know what I'm doing speed data editing is a piece of piss compared to BIOS modding :p:

[Dee]

How exactly do you modify BIOS anyway?

[RPGWiZaRD]

Done. And of course I know what I'm doing speed data editing is a piece of piss compared to BIOS modding :p:

Sorry I've never used spdtool before, which option do I choose, write or submit?

By comparision the sticks will do 1200 with 2.0V or less on DFI boards that have DS/DDS and DLL models unlocked.

How do I know if it's got that or not? I only know I'm receiving a board with a newer Rev. A11. Is it only available for the X38 and X48 chipsets?

[Praz]

How do I know if it's got that or not? I only know I'm receiving a board with a newer Rev. A11. Is it only available for the X38 and X48 chipsets?
The settings have never been put into the BIOS of the P35 to allow user adjustability.

[Ket]

Sorry I've never used spdtool before, which option do I choose, write or submit?

select write. Remember to write to both modules! (spdtool only writes to a single module at a time, so for example you would select write>module0, then repeat the process only select module1 instead of 0)

[RPGWiZaRD]

Seems to have helped a bit but they won't do 1000 at cl4 stable yet. Thx for helping though. :)

[RASTAVIPER]

Any idea how the 8000 2gb kit will go with Phenom 9950?
And without increasig the vdimm.

[Dee]

You mean without increasing vDIMM above their max recommended voltage? Well mine will run DDR1200 easily on 5-5-5-x timings using 2.02v set in BIOS. This is at or below their lowest recommended voltage of 2.1v. They do have a 120mm fan blowing on them, although it's running fairly slow most of the time. I'd imagine this kit would work awesome on any AMD setup and you'll get tons of bandwidth. AMD gets higher bandwidth than Intel, so combined with high quality D9 it'd probably be killer.

[RASTAVIPER]

You mean without increasing vDIMM above their max recommended voltage? Well mine will run DDR1200 easily on 5-5-5-x timings using 2.02v set in BIOS. This is at or below their lowest recommended voltage of 2.1v. They do have a 120mm fan blowing on them, although it's running fairly slow most of the time. I'd imagine this kit would work awesome on any AMD setup and you'll get tons of bandwidth. AMD gets higher bandwidth than Intel, so combined with high quality D9 it'd probably be killer.
This kit has a default of 2,2 vdimm.
And I know that 9950 shouldn't be combined with more than 2,3-2,4 in vdimm, because there is a chance to kill the IMC.
That;s why I asked about how much you can get without any increased voltage.

[Dee]

OK. I don't think you'd need anywhere near 2.3v except for very high overclocks (over DDR1300) or lower clocks using tighter timings. This kit requires quite a lot of voltage to run at 4-4-4-x, but far less to run 5-5-5-x to very high levels.

Again, I'm running these sticks MemTest stable at DDR1203, 5-5-5-12 timings, PL7. This is with only 2.02v set in BIOS, and with the expectation of the board overvolting, this may be closer to 2.1v "real".

Previously I had them running at DDR1154, 5-5-5-x, PL7, with only 1.92v set in BIOS. They did this very easily and were stable in all tests.