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zanzabar
09-10-2008, 11:06 PM
i have this folder and its gotten up 12GB on vista biz x64, is there any way to clean this folder out its got backup system files for windows side by side. and MS says dont delete it
the internets say reinstall
XSAlliN
09-12-2008, 02:16 PM
That means you have been running a lot of applications since you installed Vista. You can clean it but it's not recommended since that is Vista's secret for application compatibility. You have stored there a massive library of .DLL-s, even different version of same .DLL for compatibility both with old or new. The think is, the more application you install, the more will it grow. The reason behind this growing: it puts there every new version of a .DLL or even a new .DLL encountered in different applications (like games for example). So if you start deleting those .DLL's you might have problems with different applications making both Vista and the applications used unstable.
zanzabar
09-12-2008, 02:23 PM
That means you have been running a lot of applications since you installed Vista. You can clean it but it's not recommended since that is Vista's secret for application compatibility. You have stored there a massive library of .DLL-s, even different version of same .DLL for compatibility both with old or new. The think is, the more application you install, the more will it grow. The reason behind this growing: it puts there every new version of a .DLL or even a new .DLL encountered in different applications (like games for example). So if you start deleting those .DLL's you might have problems with different applications making both Vista and the applications used unstable.
i had found that on MSDN, but i cant find a way to clean it, and it grew without me installing anything recently so im vary confused, it might be viral now that i think about it
XSAlliN
09-12-2008, 03:04 PM
The only way to clean it: you have to unreg the .dll files which you want to clean and then you can delete them. But I personally wouldn't recommend that since you might get incompatibility problems with some applications that use a certain version of a .dll file.
Here's a personal quote:
"WinXSX" is one of the causes behind this danger. That directory is a massive library of .dll files which they constantly update whith every new application installed (that why it grows in size) for compatibility purpose. Some registry cleaners aren't capable of understating that and they delete the registry value of old or recently installed .dll files. That could lead to applications incompatibility or SO instability.
zanzabar
09-13-2008, 02:16 PM
i reinstalled and i have about 3GB by default but i installed devil may cry 4 and it went to 8.5GB so that game has almost more compatibility than the dvd size
The WinSXS folder is a mystery to me. I know why it's needed, but I just dont understand why it gets sooo much bigger with just one install, like zanzabar describes.
Any clues?
bldegle2
09-16-2008, 06:54 AM
And, just to make your life even more miserable, the file will increase in size almost daily....having a gigantic HD will help...it seems to me that sooner or later (especially if your Vista partition is not enormous) the HD will stuff itself to its own knees once the folder eats up most or all of the remaining free space....
I still keep going back to WinXPPro 32 bit (I have Winxppro 32/64, Vista Ultimate 32/64), although I like the Vista 64 bit and the 8gig ramski, I am still using my WinXPPro 32 bit for daily runnings, stable, comfortable, nary a problem....don't get me started on the 64bit version of WinXP (not really based on WinXP), one has to make consessions (at least I did), and several of the vendors I have contacted RE: Winxp64 drivers have responded with a huge NO, so one must compromise, ferget it or move on to Vista....
I think MS just stubbed their toes with this one, big stubbage...
laterzzzz....................
The thing is that the folder was never that big for me.
It started at 3.3 GB and never exceeded 4 GB.
That's another mystery, why does it get so big on just some systems?
Is it 64-bit related, or is it because I kept /Windows on one 12 GB partition, and /Users and /Program files on another?
Was it that Vista put less fewer files inte /WinSXS because of the restricted space?
Does Server 2008 behave the same way?
XSAlliN
09-16-2008, 10:53 AM
Mine is 9 Gb - most .dll files come from games, other from applications. When I insatled Vista 64, I fought 40 Gb would be enough so I made a 50 Gb partition. I have 19 Gb left and no games installed on C:\. Even If I uninstall some games, the .dll files still remain ( same .dll - 3 or 5 versions). If cleaning them is not a solution and future games will use different version, changing the size of partition C:\ might be the only solution (100 gb might be enough for next 5 years). :)
jaredpace
09-16-2008, 10:56 AM
Try Windows XP; it cleans up after itself.
zanzabar
09-16-2008, 11:21 AM
The thing is that the folder was never that big for me.
It started at 3.3 GB and never exceeded 4 GB.
That's another mystery, why does it get so big on just some systems?
Is it 64-bit related, or is it because I kept /Windows on one 12 GB partition, and /Users and /Program files on another?
Was it that Vista put less fewer files inte /WinSXS because of the restricted space?
Does Server 2008 behave the same way?
i orginaly had x64 then changed to x86 (i only have a sp1 disk in x86 :down:)
Try Windows XP; it cleans up after itself.
xp has the same problem its just the win9x api isnt used much if at all affter win2k came out
XSAlliN
09-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Try Windows XP; it cleans up after itself.
Read my last posts, cause here we're talking about oranges and you say "grapes or better". This topic is not about XP vs Vista.
XSAlliN
09-18-2008, 09:02 AM
This could be a solution for WinSxS (http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19235) - a risky one, nut since it's the only alterative some might be desperate enough to try it. I know I will, when it grows larger and have to reinstall it and resize it (by that time, there will be nothing left to loose). :)
Nice. And really doesn't look risky at all.
XSAlliN
09-18-2008, 04:00 PM
moving system files it's always risky. :)
Sparky
09-18-2008, 07:23 PM
I don't see a winxsx folder :confused: I see a winsxs folder on mine, but it is empty :shrug:
moving system files it's always risky. :)
But when you look at it from any level higher than NTFS driver then the files are there.
XSAlliN
09-20-2008, 09:08 AM
I don't see a winxsx folder :confused: I see a winsxs folder on mine, but it is empty :shrug:
On some pirated versions they have that removed with vLite, we're talking about the original, as in default one. :)
nox_uk
10-06-2008, 05:02 PM
over 12gb here... ludicrous. I had no dll compatibility probs that couldn't be fixed in windows 95/98, and none i even remember in XP...
Nox
saint-francis
10-23-2008, 04:53 PM
On some pirated versions they have that removed with vLite, we're talking about the original, as in default one. :)
Interesting. I didn't know that this could be done with vlite. Does anyone know what the con's to doing this are? That damn winsxs folder is plain reckless BS on behalf of MS.
You might experience some software compatibility issues...But very, very rarely. For a server 100% no-go. For a home computer - OK, but still I would think twice whether these few gigs are worth potential issues.
And probably decide that they are. :D