PLease help

[makaka]

Hi there ;
I have a big issue with my vapochill LS and i can't figure what is the correct temp .
Here is a pic of vapochill control panel and speed fan idle 30min (515x9 , 1.45v).

Idle result : note delta between evaporator and speed fan . 18c (witch is about right)
http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=390&img=4330untitled.jpg (http://xtupload.com)

Load under prime 95 (temp as high as +7 c according to speedfan) with -
http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=386&img=8931untitled1.jpg (http://xtupload.com)

load under intel burn in test (+22c even better :mad::mad::mad:)

http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=387&img=untitled2.jpg (http://xtupload.com)

temp just after closing the test (instant -11c then -24c ...etc)
http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=388&img=untitled3.jpg (http://xtupload.com)

load single core loaded super pi 32 mb 5 min only

http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=389&img=untitled4.jpg (http://xtupload.com) .

And yes look like bad contact between the cpu and evaporator or poor software (speedfan) reporting .
For the first case i mounted the evaporator over 200 time and i tried to maximize the pressure until getting the motherboard refusing to boot due to the too high pressure so bad contact is not the case .
for the second case my cpu diode do not show any temp under 34 c with real temp or any other software (except asus or biostar software witch show 240 ,255c and speed fan), when the cpu temp reach 40 or 50 c real temp show the correct temperature , i was running water cooling before the vapochill ls and ever things was right (4 Ghz with 1.240v load temp was 46-50c) .
Now even if the cpu IHS was poor then the water cooling used before should show even a higher temp (60 or 70c + ) ; but this is not the case.
Now here is the most interesting with 1.6v the evaporator temp remain sub -30c but here the cpu temp go as high as 40-44c and here real temp and other similar software (coretemp.. etc) show also 40-44c.
Note i am using AS ceramique and i even tried MX 2 , i am getting the same result

and finnaly i was running my CPU ( E8500 ) in asus P5b-3 plus and i had similar results

PLEASE HELP:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[EvoCarlos]

realtemp,coretemp,speedfan are rubbish to get temps below 0c
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/evocarlos/cputemps.jpg

everest FTW imo 2c diffrence and i think thats because the temp probe is behind the evap on the ls#

also cores 1-2 read 12c all the time and cores 3-4 7c some bug

how much thrmal comp you using between cpu and evap?

[makaka]

evrest show the temp as core temp or real temp so no sub zero the only software able to show sub zero was speed fan ,


how much thrmal comp you using between cpu and evap?
not that much just a bit , if need i can post a pic of the evaporator and cpu just after heat removal .

realtemp,coretemp,speedfan are rubbish to get temps below 0c
Then how could u explain what i mentioned above :

Now here is the most interesting with 1.6v the evaporator temp remain sub -30c but here the cpu temp go as high as 40-44c and here real temp and other similar software (coretemp.. etc) show also 40-44c.

[makaka]

realtemp,coretemp,speedfan are rubbish to get temps below 0c
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/evocarlos/cputemps.jpg

everest FTW imo 2c diffrence and i think thats because the temp probe is behind the evap on the ls#

also cores 1-2 read 12c all the time and cores 3-4 7c some bug

how much thrmal comp you using between cpu and evap?

can u please show your speed fan and vapochill ls temp idle and load

[EvoCarlos]

can u please show your speed fan and vapochill ls temp idle and load

in the image and -47 under load fan speed @ 30% but upgreaded fans 115cfm

[makaka]

Here another pic with all softwares :
http://xtupload.com/imgageoutput.php?i=397&img=2560untitled.jpg (http://xtupload.com)
Speed fan seem to be the reasonable cpu temp

[makaka]

in the image and -47 under load fan speed @ 30% but upgreaded fans 115cfm

I meant install SpeedFan Software and show me the temp so we can compare your speedfan & vapo ls control center vs mine

[EvoCarlos]

I meant install SpeedFan Software and show me the temp so we can compare your speedfan & vapo ls control center vs mine

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/evocarlos/mobotemps.jpg

[makaka]

This what i meant speedfan in your case report the right temp ,
Could u please show the same but under load 5-10 min prime or intel burn test.
so it is right my cpu temp is ultra poor , how this be improved .
Best regard

[EvoCarlos]

evrest show the temp as core temp or real temp so no sub zero the only software able to show sub zero was speed fan ,

not that much just a bit , if need i can post a pic of the evaporator and cpu just after heat removal .

Then how could u explain what i mentioned above :
image not nessacery
but it sounds to me like there is ether not enuff pressure on the evap or theres to much paste but it coud just be the vapo they don't do very hi load well imo i mean hi load 4ghz +
i had to pack the inside of the evap head with armaflx tape to put the evap 2mm ferther out to get more pressure between cpu+evap but it could be somthing completlly different in your case i had the same no boot problem with to much pressure as you did had to remove the cpu to get it to boot lol

[makaka]

Thanks for reply , Note the cpu is Dual core and not quad so even @ 1.6 v i can't hit 180 w load .
Any suggestion,

[EvoCarlos]

This what i meant speedfan in your case report the right temp ,
Could u please show the same but under load 5-10 min prime or intel burn test.
so it is right my cpu temp is ultra poor , how this be improved .
Best regard

3hours of orthos @3ghz
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k262/evocarlos/water%20cooled/Capture.jpg
if speed fan is reading the same the numbers in everest will be right compeard
this is an old image the unit is tuned better now

[makaka]

can this be related to a leak ??

[zipdogso]

I think you will find that vapochills are just carp with you have an 2 core with a big OC or a quad.

That's why those serious about Phase change avoid them altogether or eventually swap to a custom unit.

Vapochills are only Phase change beginner/entry level.

[EvoCarlos]

I think you will find that vapochills are just carp with you have an 2 core with a big OC or a quad.

That's why those serious about Phase change avoid them altogether or eventually swap to a custom unit.

Vapochills are only Phase change beginner/entry level.

i just lol'd ^^ "Vapochills are only Phase change, lazy people with money"
but hes right vapos are crap with hi over clock but custom units basicly contain the same running parts as a vapos without the cost of a lable............

[tiborrr]

The big difference in temperature is normal. For instance, when the cascade is running @ -100°C evaporator, it give about -72°C idle with E8600 CPU@6GHz @ 1.92V.

[makaka]

I know , but i am getting +40c load @ 1.6 v witch pretty bad for phase change cooling

[[XC] Lead Head]

What kind of thermal paste are you using? 1.6vCore is extremely high, your probably pushing your unit to the limit.

[EvoCarlos]

i'd say swap to ceramique and get a better heat transfer between the cpu and evap maybe try the 1/2" nuts behind the springs or pack behind the polystyrene with card bord or armaflex tape like i did may be that wil help