My SS help plz

[s0lid]

Need some help and suggestions with my SS build :)

The parts:
Compressor: Aspera T6185A*
Condenser: 25x30x5cm condenser + 4x 12cm fans + 12v psu for fans*
Evaps:2x Chilly1 type evaps*
Suction lines:2x 60cm flex suction lines
VX: 2x 6feet capillary 0.8mm (shorter/longer perhaps?)
Others:5 feet desuperheater (shorter/longer perhaps?)
Hopefully SS controller like freeze pack
dryers, tubing and valves
suction lines accumulator

Any suggestion for gas?
R404a, R507, R402?

This going to my Dual clover build and in future to Dual gainestown build :)

(*marked i have over here or on their way.)

[Raadster]

What is your definition of a desuperheater? Because for me its simply a condensor placed on the suction line used to remove superheat.

Now the only way a condensor (or for arguments sake for generalisation lets call the object a radiator) can remove heat is when the ambient air or whatever medium is around the radiator, water cooler for e.g. is of a lower temperature then the Suction vapour.

For e.g. if your SS is tuned for a evaporating temp of -30c and your superheat is set for about 10c then your SST will be -20c, as your vapour travels along the Suction line it will get warmer due to insulation losses so lets assume that 2 inches from your compressor the discharge line is 0c.

Then this example would mean that you need to live in a area which is below at least 0c or the only thing your so called desuperheater will be doing is actually adding superheat.

As I see you live in finland im assuming its ridiculously cold and you would probably get sub zero temps regularly but you then run the risk of liquid slugging if it gets too cold depending on what gas your using.

Im not calling you out for anything here so dont take it the wrong way, I just see people saying they are going to add a desuperheater and I wonder if their ambient temps actually warrant the application.

[vab206]

i believe by desuperheater he means the line from the compressor to the condenser, or so it seems that way for the order he listed his componenets

[s0lid]

i believe by desuperheater he means the line from the compressor to the condenser, or so it seems that way for the order he listed his componenets

Yea far as i know desuperheater is just copper pipe (bended ofc) between compressor and condenser, but correct this if not true.

[Raadster]

The pipe between the compressor and condensor is just a pipe.

A desuperheater removes superheat from the Saturated suction vapor.

[tiborrr]

The pipe between the compressor and condensor is just a pipe.

A desuperheater removes superheat from the Saturated suction vapor.

Correct! IMHO it makes more sense to install thicker condensor than adding loops of copper pipes. I see the point of adding few loops of copper only for vibration dampening.

[killermiller]

I think you guys may need to read a little more.

De-superheater, sometimes called a (anti-)vibration loop, assists in removing excess heat cause by the heat of compression, before the condenser. It doesn't have anything to do with superheat from the suction line.

[s0lid]

I think you guys may need to read a little more.

De-superheater, sometimes called a (anti-)vibration loop, assists in removing excess heat cause by the heat of compression, before the condenser. It doesn't have anything to do with superheat from the suction line.

So i were right :D

But any suggestion about cap tube or etc :)?

[s0lid]

Updated first post, any suggestions?
Is it possible to mix R507 and R508B?

[Raadster]

I think you guys may need to read a little more.

De-superheater, sometimes called a (anti-)vibration loop, assists in removing excess heat cause by the heat of compression, before the condenser. It doesn't have anything to do with superheat from the suction line.

Then if your inputting another medium by which to expel heat before the condensor then you actually have 2 condensors.

A condensor and desuperheater are one and the same, i.e they are both objects which radiate heat into the medium in which they are in contact with which is usually just air and sometimes water.

A radiator is only referred to as a desuperheater when its on the suction line removing superheat.

[s0lid]

Then if your inputting another medium by which to expel heat before the condensor then you actually have 2 condensors.

A condensor and desuperheater are one and the same, i.e they are both objects which radiate heat into the medium in which they are in contact with which is usually just air and sometimes water.

A radiator is only referred to as a desuperheater when its on the suction line removing superheat.

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[t800]

OT:
s0lid, do you have what tools for build? I could borrow leak detector if you would have one? :)

[s0lid]

OT:
s0lid, do you have what tools for build? I could borrow leak detector if you would have one? :)

Yea i've toolss for brasing :)
What comes to leak detector: If i need it i can always ask :D

Btw a.k.a junnu in murobbs?

[t800]

Yea i've toolss for brasing :)
What comes to leak detector: If i need it i can always ask :D

Btw a.k.a junnu in murobbs?
Same person :p:

YGPM :)

[killermiller]

So i were right :D

But any suggestion about cap tube or etc :)?

Sorry, no experience with x2 headed systems

That is a decent sized condenser you probably don't need 5ft of coil before the condenser. a DSH coil is generally used to make up for a condenser that is undersized. I am not sure of the heat output of the cpus you are using.

[s0lid]

Sorry, no experience with x2 headed systems

That is a decent sized condenser you probably don't need 5ft of coil before the condenser. a DSH coil is generally used to make up for a condenser that is undersized. I am not sure of the heat output of the cpus you are using.

Around 100-150W/piece :D