Best CFM for 34db or less in 120mm, 25 and 38mm? (Nonsleeved Only Please!)

[Judaeus Apella]

Lets start over... sorry I caused so much confusion in the last thread. I didn't know what I wanted.

I'm looking for a decent NON SLEEVED 120mm fan, that runs at 32db or lower at max speed @ 55CFM or higher, and costs under $20, that isn't high pitched. I'm seeing lots of fans, but I don't know which fans to trust. Since I can't test before I buy, I don't know what I'm getting. So I need your input!

PLEASE DO NOT SUGGEST ANY S-FLEX FANS. I've read many reports that say they are defective and leak fluid everywhere. So no I don't want any, and don't argue with me about it. Suggest anything but an S-Flex.

Fans on my ban list:
Thermaltake (low quality, high pitched)
Scythe S-Flex (defective)
Cooler Master (low life span, low quality)
Antec (overpriced for their limited quality)

Here's a few I've found. Opinions? Experiences??

http://www.svc.com/uc-ma12.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14t.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14b.html
http://www.svc.com/xlf-f1253.html
http://www.svc.com/fba12g12l1bx.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-18.html

[Judaeus Apella]

I could really use some help here... I'm not really finding anything, and I don't know which fans to trust. :( Can you guys please help me out?

[TedShred]

The evercool aluminum fan comes in ball bearing models

PPCs sells the 2-bearing ones:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=135

Petra's has the quieter 1-bearing model:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/12evalcafan8.html

[cegras]

S-Flex.

Really, there's nothing much else to say.

=P

[Judaeus Apella]

That first one is too expensive and Sythe is on my ban list....

Can somoene please suggest a good fan? I'm still looking....

[Tonucci]

Yate Loons are very good and cheap.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=193125

check the other roundups by Vapor. silentpcreview.com has great fan reviews aswell.

[1_budz]

My first choice would be the Yate Loons as they're reasonably priced. They do well cooling my computer cases.

Here's a Cooler Master 120mm fan from Svc.com within your budget.

Cooler Master Y720SCB-12K1-GP 120mm Silent Fan, $7.99
http://www.svc.com/y720scb-12k1-gp.html

[IKIKUINTHENUTZ]

The only fan I can think of the the yate loon 120mm D12BL-12 not D12SL-12
http://www.ncixus.com/products/22645/D12BL-12/Yate%20Loon/
I cant seem to find the medium speed version of it as J-t.com No longer sells Ball bearing YLs

[NonDecepticon]

It's as expensive as the S-Flex, but if you're not getting them in bulk, I would fork over the extra dough for a good one like the triple blade Delta (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de12trbllows1.html) from SWC. Don't let the brand name scare you, these things are nice.

If you don't specifically need BB, nothing beats the Yates in bang for buck especially the ones from Petra's (http://www.petrastechshop.com/120x25mmfans.html). The mid speeds are still very quiet and move slightly more air than the low speed. You can keep the sleeve bearing lubricated and it will last as long as any ball if that's what you're concerned about. Just don't mount sleeve bearings horizontally. It increases their noise output and puts undue wear on the bearing.

[cegras]

Apparently Yate ball bearings suck, and so is anything except for Petra's Yates.

I don't see why Scythe is on your ban-list. You're shooting yourself in the foot (for whatever reason). Makes me not want to help you, actually.

[mad_skills]

Noctua perhaps?

[Hidetaka]

It's even more expensive :/

[Caveman787]

Delta fans, S Flex, Noctua, Panaflo Aerocool XtremeTurbine, Scythe Slipstream Yate Loon, San Ace and Zalman.

That's my list of good fans to look into so far to cool a heatsink.

Scythe are really good fans both for silence and air pressure Slipstream has one of the best balanced dba/cfm ratio's I've seen and the S flex's have good dba/pressure/cfm.

Still have no clue what one's best for 30 dba or less for heatsinks but maybe I'll make a thread about that soon.

Yate Loon's are the only one's other then scythe's that seem to be within your price range because for a good fan your going kinda cheap.

[mad_skills]

Scythe Slip Stream is not that expensive, i think around 10$ and is a good fan.:up:

[Tonucci]

It should be noted that Slip Streams are TERRIBLE under restriction (radiator, heatsinks, etc). Yateloons are cheaper and more versatile imo.

[Caveman787]

Slipstreams are yeah but S flex's aren't which means Scythe has all side's covered.

[mad_skills]

It should be noted that Slip Streams are TERRIBLE under restriction (radiator, heatsinks, etc). Yateloons are cheaper and more versatile imo.
That is not entirely true. The one i have on my TRUE works perfectly. No problems what so ever, and airflow is very good.

[Judaeus Apella]

Thanks for the advice so far guys, but like I said... $8 or under only please. I can't afford Sythes right now, which is why they're on my ban list... like it says in my first post, and I need something with more power than a 28db fan.

[mad_skills]

Don't get me wrong but i doubt you can't find or borrow 2-4$ from a friend or so. It's better to get a proper fan for a few bucks over your budget than to get a not so good one in budget.
I don't know if there are any decent fans for under 8$, especially powerful ones.
Here Scythe SlipStream for 7.99$ (http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3943), in budget.:up:
Edit: More 7.99$ Slip Streams:
http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3944
http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3945
The second one is the 1900rpm model, just like the one i've got. 1200rpm, 1600rpm and 1900rpm models, take your pick.

[TedShred]

here's a ball-bearing evercool for $8, but it's out of stock. might be worth checking with Jabtech to see if new ones are comin'

http://www.jab-tech.com/Evercool-120mm-Model-EC12025M12C-pr-1497.html

[Tonucci]

That is not entirely true. The one i have on my TRUE works perfectly. No problems what so ever, and airflow is very good.

It may work for you but it doesnt mean its good when compared with other fans.

Look at the second chart:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=193125

While its good @ open air, its practically incompatible with radiators....very low pressure.

[mad_skills]

One case, be it mine or somebody else's, kinda annuls the status terrible that you gave them. :)
It's a good fan for that kind of money. Obviously it's not top notch but definitely not terrible.
And that's a 1200rpm model in the test. 1900rpm ones act a bit differently you'll agree.

[Tonucci]

Yes, even tho the 1900RPM version might show similar behavior, it only appys to the 1200RPM one.

If those results are typical, then its indeed terrible under restriction when compared to the other fans.

Do no generalize please, they are great @ open air :)

[mad_skills]

If those results are typical, then its indeed terrible under restriction when compared to the other fans.

Not generalizing, just making sure you understand my point. 1900rpm can't show similar behaviour simply because it makes more static pressure and if you secure it tightly enough there will be no waste of performance and it will do it's job.
Produces enough cfm on a TRUE to cool an overclocked Kentsfield. If that is terrible, cooling that kind of a heat pig then our view of a terrible fan do differ.
Trust me i know, i've had Cooler Master, Zalman, Noctua, Scythe, Antec, Titan etc. all kind of fans i can tell if it's good or not. Yes, it's not an S-Flex but for 8,9,10$ neither do i expect it to be. And it's far from terrible.

[Tonucci]

Dude.........terrible in comparison to the other reviewed fans. And lets not forget, its bad only under restriction.

Ive nothing to gain here... just look at the chart, it speaks for itself.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Thanks for the advice so far guys, but like I said... $8 or under only please. I can't afford Sythes right now, which is why they're on my ban list... like it says in my first post, and I need something with more power than a 28db fan.

you wouldn't walk into a ferrari dealership with only $20k in hand. you ask for too much for too little money, and also have a ban list. there's too few fans (if any) that will fit your exact needs, so the only fan i can think of is a yate loon

[Judaeus Apella]

Then what do you call that? > http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEM&prod_id=FANEC1225B

And I hate overpriced sports cars, especially ferraris, lambos, etc. I'd much rather have a 1000hp R34... blue and black... with royal gunmetal rims. :D

[mad_skills]

And I hate overpriced sports cars, especially ferraris, lambos, etc. I'd much rather have a 1000hp R34... blue and black... with royal gunmetal rims. :D
And you think that Skyline would come cheap? Turbo's alone for that engine to make 1000bhp would cost 100.000$.
And Ferrari, Lamborghini etc. are not overpriced, they are cars just like the rest of them. They just have different purpose and different buyers.:up:

[apexracing]

He's telling us that products which cost a bit more will be ignored, even if they're worth it. I could come up with a bunch of jokes for that, but I'll spare him.. this time.

Look, if you're not willing to cough up, you'll have to settle for Yate Loon.

[Judaeus Apella]

Is there something wrong with this fan, that no one's mentioning? http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEM&prod_id=FANEC1225B

ball bearing, decent company, 79.14 CFM, 29.5dBA (probably 32 - 34), and under $8... thats a good deal

[Tonucci]

Since we cant believe the manufacturer ratings, and I've never seen it properly tested by reviewers, it could be anything from horrible to good. Can anyone point me to an review ?

Why dont you just get Yateloons ? Cheap, quiet, good pressure and near top performance...

[OdinEidolon]

everyone already said that... Yate Loons! Yate Loons! Yate Loons!

[OdinEidolon]

Just check Vapor's review here on XS

[Judaeus Apella]

Okay, I couldn't find the right cfm in Yate Loon until now. I'll get that.

Probably two of these: http://www.svc.com/d12sm-124ub.html

Can you guys tell me if the db they make is lower or high pitch? I hate fans that make a higher pitch noise. They drive my family and I nuts. It just grates on our nerves. Please keep in mind THEY WILL be running at full speed 24/7. This isn't some overclocking or gaming rig. She doesn't want her computer to have fan controllers. She doesn't want something else to have to mess with. So its either full speed or nothing, and no I'm not hooking a fan up to a 5v connector.

[1_budz]

I'd suggest you get the Yate Loons from Petra's Tech Shop since they buy directly from Yate Loon. They are not blue led's but it'll do a good job at cooling without much noise or high pitch sound. Just my 2 cents!

120mm Yate Loon D12SM-12 Case Fan - Black (70.5 CFM, 33 dBA), $5.95
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html

[Tonucci]

Perfect for his CFM, Dba and price needs. :)

No excuses left not to get an good fan instead of this unknown/unproven one :ROTF:

[Judaeus Apella]

I don't understand... what do you mean they get them directly from Yate Loon? Where the hell are the other guys getting them from then? Is someone sticking Yate Loon stickers on cooler masters or something? lol

Excuse my ignorance... I really don't know much about how it works with store suppliers and stuff. I have no idea why there's would be better than anyone elses. I really don't get that. Isn't a Yate Loon a Yate Loon, where ever you get it?

[pcaddict]

I like these fans: http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=4&prod=18 and http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=200 they are AWESOME
and cheap..

[1_budz]

I don't understand... what do you mean they get them directly from Yate Loon? Where the hell are the other guys getting them from then? Is someone sticking Yate Loon stickers on cooler masters or something? lol

Excuse my ignorance... I really don't know much about how it works with store suppliers and stuff. I have no idea why there's would be better than anyone elses. I really don't get that. Isn't a Yate Loon a Yate Loon, where ever you get it?

Read this regarding Yate Loons from Petra's. ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2641609&postcount=6

[Judaeus Apella]

I like these fans: http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=4&prod=18 and http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=200 they are AWESOME
and cheap..

LOL! 38CFM! :ROTF: No wonder they're so silent... Thats just stupid. Seriously, please read before you suggest something like that.

And sorry but I never EVER buy anything sleeved. I've been screwed by every sleeved fan I ever owned. They always fail. Every bearing fan I ever baught still works, even if they're years old. Even a sleeved delta I had, died miserably.

[Caveman787]

Well your not gonna find a ball cooler below $10.

Yate Loon's are your best bet, but there sleeved.

S-Flex and Noctua are good Ball ones but there $13-$20.

So basically your gonna have to make your own fan.

Your way to peticular.

[Judaeus Apella]

Okay the budget just went up a little. Whats a good 32db or below fan that gets 60 or higher CFM, for under $14?

[Judaeus Apella]

Anyone had any experience with this fan?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835705001

[1_budz]

I have a Panaflo 120mm x 38mm fan and it is a bit loud compared to my Yate Loon's and Scythe S-Flex F. ;)

[Judaeus Apella]

:brick: *counts to 3*

Can you tell me which panafo model it is?

[RejZoR]

Have you checked Noiseblocker fans?

[cyberspyder]

For something thats NOT sleeve, check out the Scythe S-FLEX series, with ranges from 8.7dBA (33.5CFM) to 35.0dBA (75.0CFM) with four different models. They use an FDB (Fluid Dynamic Bearing) which does not have the positional quirks sleeves do. If not that, then go for the Scythe Minebea series, which uses a 2-ball bearing from NMB. They come in 3 flavours, 18.0dBA (41.3CFM), 27.0dBA (63.6CFM), and 31.0dBA (75.9CFM). Based on Vapor's testing (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=170224), both of these fans were accurate to their specs and offered good performance.

Scythe Minebea:
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010110573+50002108+1372826138&name=2+Ball
-http://www.petrastechshop.com/may07.html (scroll down...email Petra for current availability)
-http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=120mm+minebea
-http://www.coolerguys.com/sminebea.html

Scythe S-Flex
-http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&keyword=S-Flex&categories_id=49&inc_subcat=1&manufacturers_id=73&pfrom=&pto=&dfrom=&dto=&x=55&y=19
-http://www.jab-tech.com/search.php?mode=search
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=s-flex&x=0&y=0
-http://search.store.yahoo.net/cgi-bin/nsearch?unique=42fee&catalog=yhst-65556269779593

Brendan

[Judaeus Apella]

I'll check out the Scythe Minebea, but as I recall, a bunch of the Scythe S-Flex's are defective. They leak fluid all over the place...

[1_budz]

:brick: *counts to 3*

Can you tell me which panafo model it is?

I believe I have this one:

http://www.svc.com/fba12g24m.html

Here's a pdf on the Panaflo's:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/appliance/pdf/fba12g.pdf

I've had no problems of leaking with any of the S-Flex fans I've purchased. Scythe has a good warranty replacement should anyone need one. I had them replace a 10 month old S-Flex F fan when it suddenly went dead. I got the new one a week later. S-Flex fans have a 2 year warranty.

[cegras]

I'll check out the Scythe Minebea, but as I recall, a bunch of the Scythe S-Flex's are defective. They leak fluid all over the place...

What. Is. Wrong. With. You? You can't create a baseline from a fan with magical specs for a magical price, and then augment it with FUD. Or, you can, and that's why everyone's annoyed with you. Buy S-Flex, be done with it. Or go read Vapour's fan testing.

(By the way, you should never, ever base a buying decision on fan specs.)

[Judaeus Apella]

Its not going to be the end of the world if I don't get an S-Flex, fan boy. And there are plenty of fans that get 32db or below with 60 or above CFM. I just don't know which ones to trust. So I'm asking if anyone has any input on these fans. What about that Panaflo I posted?

And I know that, thats why I'm asking for suggestions. There are TONS of products out there, but all I hear is Scythe this and Scythe that... but I go and read about them and I see a list of people complaying that the S-Flexes leak fluid everywhere. One guy contacted them and they said that the defect would be solved with a new model. So their answer is to keep making a defective product, and selling it knowing what will happen to their customers. Screw them. Scythes feel like a hype to me, and nothing more, espcially after reading about them leaking fluid eveywhere. Go ahead get pissed at me. I don't care. If you're going to just sit there and only suggest one company, then please don't help me. Go away.

I'm open to ALL brands, as long as they have decent air pressure, push at least 60 CFM at 32db at the MOST, and are anything BUT sleeved. That includes Panasonic, Enermax, Delta, Arctic, SilenX, Sunon, Yate Loon... should I keep going? Top Motor, AeroCool, Noctua, Evercool.... You see? There's a lot of brands, not just Scythes.

What about these?

http://www.svc.com/uc-ma12.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14t.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14b.html
http://www.svc.com/xlf-f1253.html
http://www.svc.com/fba12g12l1bx.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-18.html

[1_budz]

A lot of them are defective and leak fluid everywhere, I'm not going to risk it. Why are you such a fan boy... its not going to be the end of the world if I don't get an S-Flex. And there are plenty of fans that get 32db or below with 55 or above CFM. I just don't know which ones to trust. So I'm asking if anyone has any input on these fans. What about that Panaflo I posted?

No one's being a fan boy, we're all just giving you opinions/experiences with the fans we have. The Panaflo fan I posted is only 5dba higher than the one you're looking at buying. Just buy that Panaflo fan you're looking at. Never know until you try it out for yourself. ;)

[Judaeus Apella]

Oooo! I just found a good one on sale! $5 off!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214001&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Case+Fans-_-Enermax-_-35214001

[cegras]

You know what, I'm not going to bother.

Go ahead. Buy it. In fact, buy the Silenx fans. They're 90 cfm 14 dba ratings are far superior to anything you'll ever have. Go ahead, waste your money. Don't listen to any of us. Don't listen to the multitude of people who have just recommended Scythe - no, go ahead and trust newegg reviews, but don't trust the people who have posted in this thread to give you advice that you asked for in a forum.

You know why you don't get quiet BB fans? Because BB fans are designed for high speed.

Oh yeah, that fan looks amazing. Go ahead and buy it. 70 cfm 18 dba. It's a magical fan alright.

If you won't listen to us, don't even bother looking for help in the first place.

Have you even read Vapour's fan testing threads?

dba is a logarithmic scale. I think 3 dba is equivalent to a doubling in subjective noise. Just so you keep that in mind.

You probably won't read this because you're (excuse me) stubborn and an idiot, but I might as well try:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article63-page2.html

[cyberspyder]

Its not going to be the end of the world if I don't get an S-Flex, fan boy. And there are plenty of fans that get 32db or below with 60 or above CFM. I just don't know which ones to trust. So I'm asking if anyone has any input on these fans. What about that Panaflo I posted?

And I know that, thats why I'm asking for suggestions. There are TONS of products out there, but all I hear is Scythe this and Scythe that... but I go and read about them and I see a list of people complaying that the S-Flexes leak fluid everywhere. One guy contacted them and they said that the defect would be solved with a new model. So their answer is to keep making a defective product, and selling it knowing what will happen to their customers. Screw them. Scythes feel like a hype to me, and nothing more, espcially after reading about them leaking fluid eveywhere. Go ahead get pissed at me. I don't care. If you're going to just sit there and only suggest one company, then please don't help me. Go away.

I'm open to ALL brands, as long as they have decent air pressure, push at least 60 CFM at 32db at the MOST, and are anything BUT sleeved. That includes Panasonic, Enermax, Delta, Arctic, SilenX, Sunon, Yate Loon... should I keep going? Top Motor, AeroCool, Noctua, Evercool.... You see? There's a lot of brands, not just Scythes.

What about these?

http://www.svc.com/uc-ma12.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14t.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14b.html
http://www.svc.com/xlf-f1253.html
http://www.svc.com/fba12g12l1bx.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-18.html

Prove it. We're trying to point you in the 'proven' direction...Scythes have a great reputation, certainly better than Top Motor or Sunon. Go ahead, but what you want....there was no need for this thread in the beginning. We gave advice but you chose to follow your own...that's not what forums are for.

[FrankGehry]

The scythe minebea is from an economy line of fans from nmb-mat. The better version has sealed bearings and is available here.

NMB-MAT RB-12025-L
http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/

This sealed bearing version is also available from www.digikey.com in the US. They are more than $8, closer to $20.

Another possibility is a JMC that can be purchased from skyline graphics. www.jmcproducts.com.

Any fan you buy from svc or jab-tech is likely to be surplus and not top of the line.

You could also consider an NMB-MAT FBA12G12L1A. This is a 120x120x38 fan and has a hydro-wave bearing. Digikey is the only dealer in the US where a factory fresh sample can be purchased. SVC and jab-tech will sell you a reject/surplus oem model. You never know what you're getting.

Bi-sonic has a line of ball bearing fans available at www.mouser.com. I believe they are about $12.

[1_budz]

So you're saying SVC.com and Jab-tech.com get surplus oem models/rejects. I find that hard to believe but I wonder since I did purchase a Scythe S-Flex from SVC a year ago and it failed. But I got a warranty replacement directly from Scythe. I've ordered many other brands of fans from SVC but never had any problems with them except for low speed Yate Loons. Interesting what you posted FrankGehry! ;)

[cabbspapp]

The problem is that there are fake Yates floating around.

[1_budz]

The problem is that there are fake Yates floating around.

Yuh, I know and I buy all of my Yates from Petra's now! :up:

[Judaeus Apella]

I'm going to make a topic... I didn't do a very good job making this one and people are recommending fans that are sleeved...

Please lock this?

[Judaeus Apella]

So whats out there? I see fans all over the place that advertise 55+ or 65+ CFM for 34db or less.... sometimes even below 20db! But a lot of companies seem to be lying about their fans' specs. The purpose of this topic is to seperate the real ones from the posers, only claiming what their products can't actually accomplish.

Please post any links to anything you know about thats sold online, and any online reviews you find for these fans. Also, any personal experience with such fans is also welcome.

I know all about the Scythes and the sleeved Yate Loons at Petras. We've all talked about them and seen them already. This topic is about what else is out there.

AGAIN, please keep sleeved fans out of this discussion.

Here's a few I've found, but don't know much about them:

http://www.svc.com/uc-ma12.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14t.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-74-14b.html
http://www.svc.com/xlf-f1253.html
http://www.svc.com/fba12g12l1bx.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-14.html
http://www.svc.com/ixp-76-18.html

I did find a personal review on the Enermax Magma, the first link. Enermax advertises that it gets nearly 70cfm at only 18db.... which is total bullsh*t. I found a personal review, and the user clamed that at full speed, it creates more than 40db, around 45! It makes me sick how these companies can get away with advertising like that. I think people are wise to them and not buying them, cause now they're offering a $5 rebate. lol Even for that price, I still think they suck. If I wanted something that loud, I'd just get a Delta. :down:

I've seen good reviews about the SelenX's though, which are FDB Fluid Dynamic Bearing. Here's a couple reviews I've found:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=57&page=1&desc=silenx_ixtrema_80___120_quiet_fans
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/silenx_ixtrema_fans/index.shtml

[1_budz]

:rofl: The XigmaTek's XLF-F1253 is a sleeved fan.
http://www.svc.com/xlf-f1253.html

:shrug: I don't understand why you're starting another thread regarding 120mm fans. Lots of information was given to your other thread but you totally disregarded any suggestions that were made to you. Good luck on your quest to find the 120mm fan! ;)

[Ar3s]

How can you have not heard of panaflo fans ? Oh Please, if you want to insult enermax about fan specs then look at all your silenx fan links again.

Anyone tried these yet ?
http://www.scythe.co.jp/cooler/d1225c.html

[MaxT]

Why did you start a new thread? You already have a thread about this where you didn't listen to anything anyone suggested. You are blindly buying into marketing hype of every fan manufacturer and only look at the numbers instead of real world experiences. You wasted enough time in the other thread.

[Judaeus Apella]

I cant change the title in the forum and no one is being helpful in here. The title for this topic says I'm only looking for ball bearings. I completely forgot about the other bearing types out there. I was pretty clear about WHY I wanted to start a new topic... are you all really THAT dense? Fine, I'll explain it again.

The new topic was supposed to be about seperating truth from fiction. Fans that lie about their specs and fans that don't... as much. This thread is about shopping for fans with restrictions on price and brands, and only ball bearing. The new topic was about researching ALL 120mm fans without a restriction on price, brands, or bearing type, as long as it wasn't sleeved or the usual Scythe and Yate Loons that EVERYONE is constantly talking about.

The reason the title is so important? If I changed my mind.... a lot of people would probably never read it. They'd probably read the title, then suggest a fan based on what I said in the title. But whats the point of even bothering using a title or even going through the trouble of starting this thread if no one reads any of it, or cares? People keep suggesting sleeved fans, brands that I said I was very clear I didn't want, etc. There was a time when there were people in this area of the forum who were really helpful, no matter what you asked or how specific you were. They wouldn't get in your face, trying to get you to use something you didn't want to use... or constantly ask you why you don't want to use a brand you already were clear about not wanting to use.

Some of you guys need to seriously grow the hell up! Overall, I love XS, the community has helped me so many times... and I've learned so much... But this place has changed. The helpful people who used to frequent the air cooling section of the forum are gone, and new people are here who aren't helpful at all. They aren't interested in helping me or talking about different fan companies... or exploring different possible fans they didn't think of using, they're just intrested in trying to get me to use what THEY like. Thats called a fan boy.

Please, either add something to this topic or GO AWAY.

This is what I'm looking for. NON-SLEEVED 120mm fans that give good CFM output at 34db or less, that ARE NOT Yate Loons or Scythe. If you want to help me, then thats great! I'd like to read what you have to say. If you have any insight, experiences, or know of any fan reviews, please post them!

If you don't want to help me and you're only interested in pitching companies I've been very clear about not buying from, then too bad. Go post somewhere else!!! Don't hyjack my thread, don't advertise the fans I said I don't want, and don't complain about it.

[1_budz]

:shakes: :clap:Good luck in getting any responses from any member after what you just posted.....

[Tonucci]

they're just intrested in trying to get me to use what THEY like. Thats called a fan boy.




Pfff they are not just suggesting "what they like", they are suggesting what came on top in credible reviews (non-newegg).

Thats the reason why people have, like and recommend S-FLEX and Yateloons. Its because they are 2 of the very best fans ! Not because of fanboyism :rolleyes:

You insulted us all, not only in this thread, therefore I recommend you an THERMALTAKE FAN :rofl:

[Linchpin]

After that little rant I'm just going to say buy whatever the hell you want since you clearly had/have no intention to listen to any of the great advice given to you.

[cyberspyder]

Give it up guys...he's the one being dense here...try to get your head out of a hole.

[mad_skills]

After that little rant I'm just going to say buy whatever the hell you want since you clearly had/have no intention to listen to any of the great advice given to you.

I second that.

[cegras]

I love the hivemind here. Makes me feel warm about belonging.

Edit:

So you'll believe newegg over XS and SPCR.

A shame you're succumbing so hard to your natural biological instinct to generalize negativity.

[NonDecepticon]

I can understand your position on bearings having been exposed to cheap sleeve bearings as me and my sister are sensitive to high pitched noises as well (I have to retire hard drives every 3-5 years as they begin to whine). However, you need to understand that not all sleeve bearings are created equally. A good quality sleeve bearing is actually preferable for noise output to ball bearings at mid to low speed because they are less susceptible to damage in shipping and their general noise is of a lower frequency than ball bearings. They are also more consistent throughout their lifetime whereas ball bearings will become more noisy as time goes on. Ball bearings will last longer without maintenance, but like I mentioned a couple of drops of 80W gear oil annually under the motor housing's grommet will enhance the life of sleeve bearings.

I recommend that you read this very informative article (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article690-page1.html). I still suggest the mid speed Yate Loon from Petra's ($5/sleeve bearing), the Scythe Slipstream 1200rpm ($10/sleeve bearing), or the Scythe S-Flex 1600rpm ($15/special type of sleeve bearing). You will be hard pressed to find a comparable ball bearing fan to any of these.

[dopeboy]

last week I bought a Enermax magma http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214001 its supposed to get here today i'll let you guys know what I think about it......and i'll also compare it to my S-flex fans.

[dopeboy]

here it is http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x279/dripsta23/th_fans.jpg (http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x279/dripsta23/?action=view&current=fans.flv)

I'll defiinitely recommend the Enermax magna ...... very silent and it blows. I saw no difference compared to the S-flex:clap:


Ok so its not exactly as in the description .....but its still really great

69cfm is more like 64cfm_ and the 18 dBA is like 20_ish like 24 or so dBA:up: oh also description says its 1500 RPM but I max at 1800 RPM

[Levish]

It's as expensive as the S-Flex, but if you're not getting them in bulk, I would fork over the extra dough for a good one like the triple blade Delta (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de12trbllows1.html) from SWC. Don't let the brand name scare you, these things are nice.

what I would go with and fits your requirements

[Judaeus Apella]

Thanks dopeboy for the review on the Magma, you've been a GREAT help! EXCELLENT JOB!!! I never expected anyone to go through that amount of trouble! THANK YOU SO MUCH!