4870 ASUS TOP BIOS (upto 900MHz in CCC)

[Rick Flair]

Enjoy, I flashed it, it works, default 815MHz core (900MHz max), 925MHz RAM (1100MHz max).

http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=com_remository&func=fileinfo&filecatid=2733

[gurusan]

same voltages?

[Rick Flair]

Same voltages.

Time to vmod my card, well this weekend maybe.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

wont flash for me on an HIS card , subsytem ID mismatch error. Rick, did you flash using winflash or atiwinflash(aka from windows) ??

[Rick Flair]

Flashed from DOS, ATIflash.

I always use,

atiflash -p -f 0 *.bin

*.bin being the bin/rom file name.

[STEvil]

Should bit check them and see what changed, maybe we can unlock CCC's limit?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

it workes for me now :woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

no more f-ing around with flashing a lot or amd gpu clock tool, and it has a good fan profile to boot (even tho i am on water its good news for others)

heres a nice little pic for yall:

[purecain]

amazing find... flashed to both cards...
ati auto tune has set 870mhz core on one card and 860 on another...
needless to say, i'm very happy... :up:

[alexio]

Should bit check them and see what changed, maybe we can unlock CCC's limit?
The part of the BIOS where the limit is stored has some sort of checksum. I'll take a look at it again if I can find the time.
isnt the size of the bios too small... has everyone tried to cold boot there pc since this flash...
The BIOS file is 128KB in size, so it should be fine. Unpack the RAR-archive to see for yourself.


edit - fixed my quote lol ;)
stevil

[Direwolf]

With default core voltage what are you guys geting with this set of bio's? (if anyone has default lol)

[Caveman787]

sniipe dogg is that on default voltage?

I really hope it is or just voltage increased through that bios whether then hard mods.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

i have 2 voltmodded cards ;) sorry to dissapoint you

[ahmad]

Thanks for sharing. Will test on a visiontek 4870 soon...

[twwen2]

it workes for me now

Nice! Did you use the dos AtiFlash or WinFlash?

[purecain]

this only works with ati flash... winflash will give you a subvender id mismatch error....

here's a before and after score with surface deformer benchmark...:clap::):up:

[twwen2]

Sweet. Well i gues i'll have to learn how to use dos! What are the main commands that i'll need?

[purecain]

atiflash -f -p 0 4870.bin (press enter to flash)
restart and enjoy m8....

[twwen2]

Thanks heaps! I presume that's after booting from a USB stick? Or can you just use command prompt? Sorry i'm not too good with these things.:shakes:

[alexio]

Thanks heaps! I presume that's after booting from a USB stick? Or can you just use command prompt? Sorry i'm not too good with these things.:shakes:
You need a true DOS environment. A Windows 98 bootup 'disc' (stick in this case) works well.

[twwen2]

Ah right. Thanks for clarifying that.

[LagunaX]

Good work guys...tempted to get one soon...must wait for the 4870x2...
Wow - haven't flashed an ATI card since my connect3d x800gto to unlock the pixel pipelines =)

[xMrBunglex]

just what i've been waiting for. thanks, Rick :up:

[Jamesrt2004]

nice find will do this tonight :D as can't find bluumin usb stick

[GaS]

Nice to see this! Any improvement on core OC against orig. BIOS? I am using ATiTool so max clock was 870..

[ante_ante]

Anyone flashed a sapphire with this bios ? I got one card and it has qimonda mems, maybe it should work then ?

[flopper]

Nice.

[xMrBunglex]

i'm so glad my motherboard has no PS2 connectors on it :confused:

does anyone know an easy way around this? i need DOS to run ATI Flash but DOS doesn't support USB devices and i can only use USB keyboards with this mobo. i installed the HP boot utility to turn my flash drive into a bootable drive and enable USB support, but it doesn't load DOS and i don't know where to go from there.

any help short of me taking my video cards to a friend's house and flashing from another computer would be super.

[gundamit]

atiflash -f -p 0 4870.bin (press enter to flash)
restart and enjoy m8.... Does the "0" in that command line represent the slot the card is in?

[r4st4m4n]

Nice to see this! Any improvement on core OC against orig. BIOS? I am using ATiTool so max clock was 870..

I also would like to know ... anyone ?

[gurusan]

Does the "0" in that command line represent the slot the card is in?

I believe so. PCI-E lane 1 = 0, PCI-E lane 2 = 1, ...etc

[STEvil]

Adapter number, not lane number.

[gurusan]

ah my bad.been so long since i've had a xfire setup

[xMrBunglex]

is anyone able to flash using a USB keyboard? if so, how? i'm gonna have to pull my video cards out and take them to a friend's house if i can't figure out a way to do this. last time i flashed i had a motherboard with PS2 ports.

[purecain]

xMrBunglex - now then m8, guttered this hasnt been smooth sailing for ya...

so if i understand you correctly, not having usb support in dos is your issue... you need your bios to support your keyboard here otherwise your suggestion of flashing the cards in another machine seems the only viable one....

do you get the idmismatch error in winflash...???

there is a definate improvement in the cards performance with this bios, i had problems getting my cards stable at 850, 860 is now completely stable with no voltage mogidfications.......

and the fan profile is exellent.........

[xMrBunglex]

i got it. he was a bit of a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about it, but W1zzard walked me through it :p:. i'll spread the word so nobody else has to bother him.

USING ATI WINFLASH TO FLASH YOUR BIOS

you have to run it through the command prompt.

Step 1: create a new folder in the root directory of your C drive (so you can easily navigate to it in DOS).

Step 2: copy all the ATI WinFlash files and the new BIOS to this new folder.

Step 3: open command prompt and navigate to your new folder.

Step 4: use the normal ATIFlash command: "atiwinflash -f -p 0 4870.rom"

it should take a minute or two to flash. it will tell you to reboot. you'll have to reinstall your video driver. but everything worked for me after that.

WARNING: if you don't get a successful confirmation at the end of the flash, make sure you flash it again before you reboot. you will brick your card if you reboot before a successful flash.



this BIOS is fantastic. the fan profile keeps both my cards at 60° load and it's quiet quiet quiet. using Everest and my G15 keyboard, i watched it throttle my GPU fans from 1900 to 2700 RPM and everywhere in between while i played a round of CoD4. it throttles the fans to keep the GPU's at 60°. i could barely hear the fans with the game muted.

[purecain]

ahhhh excellent m8... glad to hear youve managed it.... thanks for posting the info aswell....
i thought it might be possible using command prompt...

[flopper]

flashed my club3d, works fine.
nice to adjsut in ccc.

autotune goes to 890/1080 but crashes in 3dmark.
my best overklock that runs stable are 850/1000 no crashes.
however, good to have options if I wanna voltmodd one day.

[Ghigo]

Flashed a sapphire 4870 np at lunch, going test more tonight. Nice fan settings finally

[babalouj]

Purecain, So this bios not only allows further overclocking in CCC but it also helps overclock better than the stock bios?

[AliG]

Should bit check them and see what changed, maybe we can unlock CCC's limit?

good point, we should find out why this one goes onto 900 mhz while the others stop at 790 or 700 depending on your card

here's an idea, look at the profile information, maybe there's something there that will give it away. I have a 4850, so I can't test this myself

[aussie-revhead]

Flashed a sapphire 4870 np at lunch, going test more tonight. Nice fan settings finally

How did it go mate ? I would like to know before I try my cards . Can someone also confirm this works with CF enabled ?

Is this safe to do in vista ? Or XP better ?

Bye bye to gpu-tool .

:up::up::up:

[aussie-revhead]

and is this the correct tool for the job:

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1123/ATIFlash_3.60.html

:up:

[r4st4m4n]

Just flash my Sapphire with the bios. I don't seem to have gain something. ATI tool can run 5min+ @830/1000 without artifact where before it could only run @825/1000 ... but it may just be the ambient temp being lower today :shrug:

[aussie-revhead]

But you couldnt do 825 in CCC before could you ?

:up:

[r4st4m4n]

But you couldnt do 825 in CCC before could you ?

:up:

I can't see CCC ... :/

It already did that when I first tried to install Cat 8.7. This time, after the flash, I unsinstalled, boot in safe mod + driver sweeper, reboot and reinstall and I got the same problem again. The process is running but I can't see the window even if I go to the start program and run it. I had to do same as above + remove manually all "ati" keys in the registry to install it and see it previously.
On top of that once I got it installed, I had all kind of instability issues: artifacts @ stock with ATI tool, lock up in games, ... I then installed the drivers only and I haven't got any problem since.

So now I give up on CCC. I'll just uninstall it and test ATI tray tool ... :shrug:

I've also already flashed the card with 200/1000, 830/1000 2D/3D so I don't really need CCC anyways ;)

[gundamit]

Flash went fine on both cards. Running auto-tune right now. No more wrestling round with AMD GPU Clock Tool. Thanks all. :up:

[STaRGaZeR]

I was about to post this, got the BIOS from a friend yesterday. Working flawlessly :up:

Too bad it doesn't have a bit more voltage.

[cantankerous]

Everyone is mentioning a better fan profile, can anyone confirm what that profile is exactly? What % is the fan running at idle and what % does it run up to during load? As well, does the fan throttle up and down, up and down during load that is audibly noticeable while this is happening?

This bios sounds much better than the Diamond one which seems to be causing issues even at its stock runnings.

[xMrBunglex]

Everyone is mentioning a better fan profile, can anyone confirm what that profile is exactly? What % is the fan running at idle and what % does it run up to during load? As well, does the fan throttle up and down, up and down during load that is audibly noticeable while this is happening?

This bios sounds much better than the Diamond one which seems to be causing issues even at its stock runnings.

it seems to do whatever it can to keep your GPU's at 60°. i only played CoD4 for about ten minutes last night to test, but both cards ran quiet. much quieter than the 45% CCC profile i had set earlier. the fans do go up and down a lot, but it's quiet and you shouldn't notice it unless your game is muted.

[CanadaRox]

I can confirm that this installs and runs fine on the VisionTek 4870. I'll report back once I'm done testing for my max overclock (stock volts on water)

EDIT: Appears to max out about 850/1100. I'm using an MCW60 and Enzotech copper sinks on the RAM + mosfets + anything else that got hot (that long thing gets DAMN HOT!)

[STaRGaZeR]

I can confirm that this installs and runs fine on the VisionTek 4870. I'll report back once I'm done testing for my max overclock (stock volts on water)

EDIT: Appears to max out about 850/1100. I'm using an MCW60 and Enzotech copper sinks on the RAM + mosfets + anything else that got hot (that long thing gets DAMN HOT!)

I'm using a Fuzion GPU block, 30ºC idle 33ºC full load. With the original BIOS it maxed out at 870-880, with this one I'm rock stable in games at 890 stock volts. Artifact free in ATITool is about 860-865. Temps are very important with this card, with the stock cooler the max was 820 or so. I'm also using the red plate where the stock cooler is attached to cool the RAM and the mosfets, no need for more. In fact I think this red thing is more efficient dissipating heat from the mosfets than the Enzotechs, but who knows.

BTW Overdrive is so much better than AMD GPU Tool/BIOS flashing for changing the clocks :yepp:

[flopper]

didnt work well when I tried games, got white snow and artifacts, flashed back to previous modded bios, and the white snow was gone.

[babalouj]

This bios works like a charm. It also lets me overclock ~15 more mhz without artifacting.

[CanadaRox]

I'm using a Fuzion GPU block, 30ºC idle 33ºC full load. With the original BIOS it maxed out at 870-880, with this one I'm rock stable in games at 890 stock volts. Artifact free in ATITool is about 860-865. Temps are very important with this card, with the stock cooler the max was 820 or so. I'm also using the red plate where the stock cooler is attached to cool the RAM and the mosfets, no need for more. In fact I think this red thing is more efficient dissipating heat from the mosfets than the Enzotechs, but who knows.

BTW Overdrive is so much better than AMD GPU Tool/BIOS flashing for changing the clocks :yepp:

I idle at around 30-32°C and load at 35-37°C. I seem to get minor artifacts on the desktop (when I move a window it leaves a few black and white dots in random spaces where I moved the window over). I get no artifacts in 3DMark06 or Furmark and I'll be testing out Crysis in a few minutes. Hopefully a driver update will fix the overclock limit and its not just a bad card for overclocking.

[foxman]

Anyone flashed a sapphire with this bios ? I got one card and it has qimonda mems, maybe it should work then ?

Yes I flash my sapphire,no problem work good but clock still is the same.
830/4400 no volt mod.

[STaRGaZeR]

Hopefully a driver update will fix the overclock limit and its not just a bad card for overclocking.

If you mean the CCC MHz limit, the cap is in the BIOS. New drivers won't help here. RBE is able to read the limits, but not to modify the values. I hope in future versions we'll get that feature.

[CanadaRox]

If you mean the CCC MHz limit, the cap is in the BIOS. New drivers won't help here. RBE is able to read the limits, but not to modify the values. I hope in future versions we'll get that feature.

What I meant was why my GPU was clocking so much lower than what you achieved. I was hoping that using a different driver (I was using tweakforce's modded 8.6 drivers) would yield better overclocking results.

[twwen2]

Sweet that'l make things easier. I've got a GeCube 4870 so i'll let you guys know how it goes!

[STaRGaZeR]

What I meant was why my GPU was clocking so much lower than what you achieved. I was hoping that using a different driver (I was using tweakforce's modded 8.6 drivers) would yield better overclocking results.

I highly doubt that, but heh, try it and good luck. Use the officials Cat8.7, awesome drivers, huge perfomance improvements in some games.

[d4d4cH]

did anyone try this on gigabyte 4870 model?

if not, will let you know if it works later on in the afternoon

[gundamit]

FYI - The cards I flashed were from Palit - the frog guys.

[MoF]

How is the fan profile at idle? The default goes up and down a bit which is annoying. I would prefer it to be a bit louder and not go up/down all the time at idle. At load it does not really matter as then there is usually a game running with louder sounds anyway.

[I)ickie]

did anyone try this on gigabyte 4870 model?

if not, will let you know if it works later on in the afternoon

I don't see why it wouldnt work.
I have a gigabyte too. Will be trying this one tomorrow.

[purecain]

Purecain, So this bios not only allows further overclocking in CCC but it also helps overclock better than the stock bios?

i would say that your oc is going to vary greatly... as some of us will have better core's than others...

i suppose its the same as with any cpu... you never know how lucky you are going to be with it....

i think everyone will gain 20mhz though minimum....
:up:

[babalouj]

i would say that your oc is going to vary greatly... as some of us will have better core's than others...

i suppose its the same as with any cpu... you never know how lucky you are going to be with it....

i think everyone will gain 20mhz though minimum....
:up:

I would say thats a pretty good guess. I have gained ~15mhz on the core. I am going to try the XOC BE bios when I get home to see if it helps too.

[MoF]

Flashed my Club3D. Works fine.

[noobzed]

but what are the temperature, on IDLE under desktop for example, and in 3D stress, is it like the old bios ?
( 80°c IDLE and 90°c LOAD :/ )

Edit: with stock cooling I mean

[highspeed]

Great, thanks. Furmark stable as it comes :D

Flashed my Club3D 4870, without probs from USB disk. If you dont know how to do it just download this, easy as hell:

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197

[M-XXXX]

Could someone write the whole procedure (which files and where to save them)? Last time I flash was X800 GTO2 and it was kind of different:confused:

[xMrBunglex]

but what are the temperature, on IDLE under desktop for example, and in 3D stress, is it like the old bios ?
( 80°c IDLE and 90°c LOAD :/ )

Edit: with stock cooling I mean

my fans idle at 30%. they stay at that speed until the GPU's go over 60°, then they start to speed up. i haven't checked the percentage yet, but they will go up to 3200 RPM under load, depending on how hot they get (it's quieter than 45%). i played CoD4 in a cool room and my GPU's stayed at 60° the whole time. i played GRID in a hot room and they got up to 72°. that's all i know so far. the fan profile is great though.

[golfjam]

Just flashed my His HD4870. Works perfectly and runs cool. Thank you so much!!!!

[Alcibiades]

Sweet that'l make things easier. I've got a GeCube 4870 so i'll let you guys know how it goes!

I've installed it on my GeCube 4870 and it runs no problem
Have a bit of instability now after upgd to 8.7 cat
or was it the flash?
or both??
anyways my core is mediocre doin 800-815 before artichocking, stock no hard mods
even with ddr5 at 900, 815 core stable is max for me :(

waiting for accelero twin turbo (http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=166)to be released anyday now.
but im sure theres no probs with temp just needs more juice in the core,
so would like to hard mod too, anyone in sydney do this for a fee?

[GaS]

Runs ok on my Asus 4870 "vanilla" edition. But nothing gained, 880 core maxed out I guess with stock voltage.

[MoF]

So. Now that I had it installed, I tried to revert back to my backed up club3d BIOS. And it didn't work (blank screen). Nothing seemed to help, so I installed a spare 8600GT on the first PCI-e slot and the 4870 on the second in order to gain picture, and I succeeded in booting to dos with it. Then with atiflash I checked the current bios version of my 4870 and it sure was the Club3D one. So I figured maybe I'll try to reinstall it to see if it helps and I noticed that the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS was twice as large as my Club3D original backup. So my guess was that the original backup didn't quite succeed. I reflashed the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS on the card and it came back alive.

But I would like to have the original BIOS just in case I need it. And since it seems my backup isn't worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:, is there any other place I can get that BIOS from?

Edit: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/18171/Club3D.HD4870.512.080609.html

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

yeah you needed to use GPU-z .26 not .25 .25 doesn't extract the right size bios


heres my top bios results, although it has less to do with the TOP bios and more to do with my voltmod ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=269214

[Caveman787]

Gas wow nice you sure that 880 core is stable though on stock volts?

I know sniipedogg had to volt mod for that level or around it.

[dnottis]

Flashed my Asus HD4870 today. Auto tune gave me 890 core, but I backed that off as I dont want to fry this card.

Here is a Vanatage run.

http://3dxtreme.net/other/Q6600%20L745A871/vantage-flashedAsus4870.jpg

..and 3dmark06
http://3dxtreme.net/other/Q6600%20L745A871/3dmark06-asus4870flashed.jpg

[highspeed]

GAH i installed asus smart doctor and it overwrite the fan controll from bios and it sux.. even after uninstall smartdoctor i still got smart doctors fan settings.. anyone know how to remove it comletely? i search in regedit for asus but cant find anything.

[LuxZg]

I had some info that this BIOS acts different on some cards. Difference is in unlocked Overdrive I guess, or we've just got different info from different people.

Some say Overdrive is unlocked to 1100 for memory, and some say 1200 is their limit (after flashing with this BIOS ofcourse). So could you guys check and post which manufacturer/model gets which limits for GPU/mem? Cos' maybe everyone gets 1200, and than we just have wrong info in the first post.. and maybe everyone but few selected get 1200.

Tnx!

[Rick Flair]

GAH i installed asus smart doctor and it overwrite the fan controll from bios and it sux.. even after uninstall smartdoctor i still got smart doctors fan settings.. anyone know how to remove it comletely? i search in regedit for asus but cant find anything.

Ya, run AMD Gpu clock tool, move the Engine speed 5Mhz and Set Clocks, now Restore Default Clocks.

This should reset your card to all defualt BIOS settings.

[highspeed]

Ya, run AMD Gpu clock tool, move the Engine speed 5Mhz and Set Clocks, now Restore Default Clocks.

This should reset your card to all defualt BIOS settings.

It worked, thx alot !!

[highspeed]

@LuxZG , i know for Club3D and Asus it is max 1100 in CCC on memory

[Kristoferr]

can i flash it on commant prompt in windows?
Or how i can go to DOS?
I have P5K and F8 brings up first boot device, not the boot options menu.

[xMrBunglex]

can i flash it on commant prompt in windows?
Or how i can go to DOS?
I have P5K and F8 brings up first boot device, not the boot options menu.

i already answered that. post 35 on page 2.

[Kristoferr]

i already answered that. post 35 on page 2.


Yes, i tried that but im only getting command prompt doing nothing then i type that command in it.
Can only close it after flash command. :(

[GaS]

Gas wow nice you sure that 880 core is stable though on stock volts?

I know sniipedogg had to volt mod for that level or around it.

Yes it quite stable, only playing Crysis for an hour, and GoW a little bit more. Vmod is on its way.

[Caveman787]

sweet Gas sound's to me like asus card's are the ones to get from your results...wouldn't be suprised if you get 950.

[aussie-revhead]

GaS does your asus have the same vgpu as the regular cards ?

:up:

[GaS]

It is stock "vanilla" 4870 from Asus, without even game bundle:) So I guess with stock voltage.

[Webster]

Anyone tried it with a Powercolor card?

[Riska]

Yes i have just flashed a powercolor card and i works sweet 900/1100mhz in CCC and asus smart doctor works great

[LuxZg]

@LuxZG , i know for Club3D and Asus it is max 1100 in CCC on memory

Tnx for checking.. It looks like the other guy was looking in RBE, which is probably reading it wrong as my stock BIOS shows the same in RBE (both him and me have Club3D cards as well..)

[day187]

Thanks :up:

[Webster]

Yes i have just flashed a powercolor card and i works sweet 900/1100mhz in CCC and asus smart doctor works great

Awesome. 900/1100 is a great OC!

[Caveman787]

I don't think that was his overclock I think he's commenting about the max values available to oc up to.

[ultimate11]

so most of the peeps here used the atiwinflash or the bootdisc way?

[gurusan]

Yes i have just flashed a powercolor card and i works sweet 900/1100mhz in CCC and asus smart doctor works great

on stock voltage?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

so most of the peeps here used the atiwinflash or the bootdisc way?

as convenient as it seems to flash from windows, it actually isnt. In windows flash work for me 95% of the time but when if doesn't it is a pain. DOS boot disk is the way to go its faster and always effective :up:

[ultimate11]

as convenient as it seems to flash from windows, it actually isnt. In windows flash work for me 95% of the time but when if doesn't it is a pain. DOS boot disk is the way to go its faster and always effective :up:

i just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up my flash and its 8 am in the morn :) (got owned around 5am)

so i inserted a 8500gt in slot 1 of pci-e

and put the 4870 in slot 2 and system finally booted.


i used the flashway in page2 (winatiflash) , and after the whole bar finished twice , my system freeze on the 3rd time and after i pressed the reset button it was owned :(

now i m tryin to recover it :/

i tried to run winatiflash but it wont run and stays 25% on core 1 , (any other app i run during this wont respond either, would like to hear comments)


Z:\atiflash360>atiflash.exe -i
Exiting due to signal SIGSEGV
General Protection Fault at eip=00035e57
eax=fd750000 ebx=00000000 ecx=fd750000 edx=02990000 esi=00035ad0 edi=00066a0c
ebp=000e48a8 esp=000e4840 program=Z:\ATIFLA~1\ATIFLASH.EXE
cs: sel=01af base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
ds: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
es: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
fs: sel=017f base=0000dea0 limit=0000ffff
gs: sel=01bf base=00000000 limit=0010ffff
ss: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
App stack: [000e6a08..00066a0c] Exceptn stack: [00066920..000649e0]

Call frame traceback EIPs:
0x00035e57
0x0003651b
0x00035af5
0x00023dc8
0x00002592
0x00009314
0x000167a3
0x000169c7
0x0003f74f





Then go into DOS and find out which adapter number your dead HD 4870 has using Atiflash (download): atiflash -i. Now flash the BIOS using: atiflash -f -newbios -p [index] 4870.bin. Replace [index] with the number of your graphics card from the -i command.



i wonder which index is my ati card need some help on it :)

[G H Z]

Everything with atiflash happens in true DOS only, you cannot run/flash using this utility inside Windows.

[IN7OX]

flashed both of my saphire 4870s
working fine

[korrupted]

Diamond 4870 on ASUS TOP BIOS (flashed with atiwinflash on Vista x64, zero issues), stock HSF (replaced TIM), no volt mod, fan at 55 percent, loads around 60C; plays TF2, Crysis, and benches multiple rounds of 3dmark/Vantage at these speeds.


82980

[M-XXXX]

Where im doing wrong?
http://shrani.si/t/J/ub/1RUZtFoX/flash.jpg (http://shrani.si/?J/ub/1RUZtFoX/flash.png)

I've saved 4870.rom and Atiflash to C:\Documents and Settings\M-XXXX\Flash and my videocard is in the second adapter (so I wrote 1 instead of 0) Where is the problem?

[ultimate11]

Everything with atiflash happens in true DOS only, you cannot run/flash using this utility inside Windows.


is it recoverable any more ?

[Rick Flair]

Where im doing wrong?
http://shrani.si/t/J/ub/1RUZtFoX/flash.jpg (http://shrani.si/?J/ub/1RUZtFoX/flash.png)

I've saved 4870.rom and Atiflash to C:\Documents and Settings\M-XXXX\Flash and my videocard is in the second adapter (so I wrote 1 instead of 0) Where is the problem?


Well the picture of Command Prompt shows your not even in the proper directory.

Secondly while Atiflash can be used in Windows with the Command Prompt window the possibility of a flash failure makes it not worth doing this way. Booting into a true DOS environment and using Atiflash is the best way to flash your videocard.

[Rick Flair]

is it recoverable any more ?

It should be, flash from DOS, real DOS not Command Prompt from Windows.

[M-XXXX]

Well the picture of Command Prompt shows your not even in the proper directory.
can you help me out then and tell me the right commands? I run out of ideas!

[Rick Flair]

can you help me out then and tell me the right commands? I run out of ideas!

In your Command Prompt window it shows you are in the directory,

C:\DOCUME~1\M-XXXX>

From here type,

CD Flash

Now you should be in the proper directory and can use Atiflash,

atiflash -p -f 0 4870.rom

Having said all this the flash should go OK but atiflash should really only be used in true DOS, not the Command Prompt way that you are attempting.

[ultimate11]

i just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up my flash and its 8 am in the morn :) (got owned around 5am)

so i inserted a 8500gt in slot 1 of pci-e

and put the 4870 in slot 2 and system finally booted.


i used the flashway in page2 (winatiflash) , and after the whole bar finished twice , my system freeze on the 3rd time and after i pressed the reset button it was owned :(

now i m tryin to recover it :/

i tried to run winatiflash but it wont run and stays 25% on core 1 , (any other app i run during this wont respond either, would like to hear comments)


Z:\atiflash360>atiflash.exe -i
Exiting due to signal SIGSEGV
General Protection Fault at eip=00035e57
eax=fd750000 ebx=00000000 ecx=fd750000 edx=02990000 esi=00035ad0 edi=00066a0c
ebp=000e48a8 esp=000e4840 program=Z:\ATIFLA~1\ATIFLASH.EXE
cs: sel=01af base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
ds: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
es: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
fs: sel=017f base=0000dea0 limit=0000ffff
gs: sel=01bf base=00000000 limit=0010ffff
ss: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
App stack: [000e6a08..00066a0c] Exceptn stack: [00066920..000649e0]

Call frame traceback EIPs:
0x00035e57
0x0003651b
0x00035af5
0x00023dc8
0x00002592
0x00009314
0x000167a3
0x000169c7
0x0003f74f






i wonder which index is my ati card need some help on it :)


i revived the card back up again but ccc wont run and for some reason my spdif onboard to logitech is dead well .. any idea


edit : update installed 8.6 off the cd , which is working fine , any comments would be thankful.

[Rick Flair]

i revived the card back up again but ccc wont run and for some reason my spdif onboard to logitech is dead well .. any idea


edit : update installed 8.6 off the cd , which is working fine , any comments would be thankful.


You should start a separate thread with your problems, hate to say it but do you know how to use Windows and DOS well? But like I said start a separate thread.

[M-XXXX]

In your Command Prompt window it shows you are in the directory,

C:\DOCUME~1\M-XXXX>

From here type,

CD Flash

Now you should be in the proper directory and can use Atiflash,

atiflash -p -f 0 4870.rom

Having said all this the flash should go OK but atiflash should really only be used in true DOS, not the Command Prompt way that you are attempting.

Thank you for all your help. In the end I flashed from DOS (thank you for advice) I had some problems with booting from USB, so I asked for instructions in windows flashing). In the end I booted from USB and the think was done in 10s! :up:

[praesto]

Has anyone changed the core voltage through bios flashing? I think you can squeeze a bit more voltage out by bios modding the 4850, is the same thing possible with a 4870? Either way, what are your maximum core overclocks with bios volt mod/ no mod?

[korrupted]

I ran my flash from an Administrator level command prompt in Vista x64, with UAC turned off, if anyone thinks that may be related to why most have issues with usint atiwinflash.exe. Just tossing that out.

[MetalRacer]

I just flashed my Asus 4870 from DOS without any problems. SmartDoctor 5.17 still works in Vista 64 but it no longer works in XP 64.

[xMrBunglex]

Has anyone changed the core voltage through bios flashing? I think you can squeeze a bit more voltage out by bios modding the 4850, is the same thing possible with a 4870? Either way, what are your maximum core overclocks with bios volt mod/ no mod?

i think 1.263 vGPU is as high as you can go through BIOS but i'm not sure. i'd love to be corrected by anyone who knows for sure.

i'm not game stable with the default settings on the TOP BIOS. i've lowered the clocks on both my cards to 750/900 while i contemplate what to do next. i really don't like the idea of volt modding my cards because i know i'll end up selling them within a year.

[annihilat0r]

What's the idle fan load in this BIOS?

[xMrBunglex]

What's the idle fan load in this BIOS?

according to GPU-Z, both of my cards are idling at 30% fanspeed.

[xMrBunglex]

i'm not game stable with the default settings on the TOP BIOS. i've lowered the clocks on both my cards to 750/900 while i contemplate what to do next.

an update for those that are curious. i'm stable with the TOP BIOS if i force my fanspeed to 65%. i've confirmed that my problem is with my top card only and it's being caused by heat. my case has a 200mm side fan with a big center hub that lines up perfectly with my top card, so i think there is a dead spot there as far as airflow is concerned. i also have only a quarter inch of space between my two video cards due to my motherboard's layout.

i might just get a pair of Acceleros and see if i can make them work for me.

[purecain]

i find running the gddr5 above 1045 causes a core overclock of 860 to become unstable... if i keep the mem clocked @1045 i have no issues what so ever...

i think it might be the memory thats getting too hot xMrBunglex... try out my theory, good luck....

[Rick Flair]

i find running the gddr5 above 1045 causes a core overclock of 860 to become unstable... if i keep the mem clocked @1045 i have no issues what so ever...

i think it might be the memory thats getting too hot xMrBunglex... try out my theory, good luck....


Are you artifact free at 860 core in ATItools? Your card volt modded?

[AriciU]

Is there anyway to update to this damn bios by anything other then DOS? I cannot get my damn USB stick bootable no matter what i try. Pisses me off bad, why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: can't you update from windows ffs? This is 2008 already :mad:

[r4st4m4n]

Pisses me off bad, why the :banana::banana::banana::banana: can't you update from windows ffs? This is 2008 already :mad:

because even now in 2008, windows is still not 100% stable :rolleyes:

[AriciU]

It's stable enough for me. DOS should die already. :mad: Is there any linux equivalent of ati flash?

[r4st4m4n]

It's stable enough for me. DOS should die already. :mad: Is there any linux equivalent of ati flash?

BTW, Have you tried Atiwinflash ... The instruction to flash the asus bios are somewhere at the beginning of this thread.

[AriciU]

Yeah. It gives a system ID mismatch error or something like that. I could edit the clocks from the Asus bios to my vanilla bios that i use but i don't know if there is something more to the Asus bios then the clocks and fan profiles.

[r4st4m4n]

Yeah. It gives a system ID mismatch error or something like that. I could edit the clocks from the Asus bios to my vanilla bios that i use but i don't know if there is something more to the Asus bios then the clocks and fan profiles.

There is a way to force the flash with a mismatch ID involving executing atiwinflash from prompt and passing some arguments. Check the beginning of this thread (page 2-3 IIRC)

[AriciU]

Thanks. It worked. :) Stupid of me not to check the thread properly before :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing about it. :D

[xMrBunglex]

i find running the gddr5 above 1045 causes a core overclock of 860 to become unstable... if i keep the mem clocked @1045 i have no issues what so ever...

i think it might be the memory thats getting too hot xMrBunglex... try out my theory, good luck....

sadly, no. i lowered my mem down to 800 MHz and it didn't affect my results at all. my memory overclocks fine, but the GPU in my top card appears to be a dud. 800 max so far. i'll try a few more tricks before i give up on it. i'll report back if i have any results worth sharing.

[AriciU]

Did the Asus people lower the memory voltage with this bios by any chance?

I was stable before at max CCC settings 790/1100. Now i can only do 815/950 before Firefly forest (3dm06) freezes. Maybe the higher core clock is limiting my memory overclockability but still... these are :banana::banana::banana::banana: clocks compared to what other people in this thread are getting.

Which would be better anyway? 790/1100 or 815/950? I'm guessing the first clocks would be.

[highspeed]

Hey nice win skin you have, checked your 3dmark06 score, whats that oO

[dnottis]

Which would be better anyway? 790/1100 or 815/950? I'm guessing the first clocks would be.


815/950. Have you tested with more memory bandwidth? It does nothing The HD4870 has more than enough memory bandwidth at 900 (3.6GB/sec), you really dont need anymore - better to oc the core at with a 4870.

[Jaivan]

Wow thanks a lot works fine on both my HIS 4870's.

[purecain]

when my cards (both HIS) arrived the gddr5 worked flawlessly @max clocks and i was even able to run furmark(i dont recommend using this bench with 4870 by the way)...

a few days later and the ram on both cards had degraded... i could no longer run at those clocks unless i lowered the mem to roughly 1000mhz... i'm wondering if everyone running high mem clocks will see this same degradation...

sorry to hear about the duff card xMrBunglex... lets hope the card you replace it with, is a winner...

[Blkout]

when my cards (both HIS) arrived the gddr5 worked flawlessly @max clocks and i was even able to run furmark(i dont recommend using this bench with 4870 by the way)...

a few days later and the ram on both cards had degraded... i could no longer run at those clocks unless i lowered the mem to roughly 1000mhz... i'm wondering if everyone running high mem clocks will see this same degradation...

sorry to hear about the duff card xMrBunglex... lets hope the card you replace it with, is a winner...


The memory won't degrade unless you've increased the voltage excessively. If you haven't volt modded your memory then your memory was probably never stable at that speed to begin with or you have another issue causing your instability. My 4870 has been overclocked to 1100MHz since I got it 2 weeks ago and I've had no problems with memory degradation, nor will I since I'm not increasing the voltage.

This 4870 memory degradation is blown out of proportion about as much as the "faulty" stock cooling.

[korrupted]

My honeymoon w/ this bios is over I think. Games are crashing a few seconds in and the comp reboots (this is with setting my clocks back to what was previously stable on my stock bios). Switching to original bios to see if problems still exist.

[AriciU]

Hey nice win skin you have, checked your 3dmark06 score, whats that oO

The wallpaper is from Interfacelift.com, rocket dock, icons from deviantart, skin is called "milk" from macosx.

[xMrBunglex]

for those who haven't seen it yet: the Accelero Twin Turbo (http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=166).

CrossFire compatible, comes with VRM and memory heatsinks, and even a 4-pin fan connector so you can plug the fans directly into your video card's PCB and control fanspeed through your video BIOS or CCC profiles. i'm excited. heat is definitely an issue when you have two 4870's sandwiched together like i do.

Korrupted, maybe you and i are in the same boat. i'm not game stable over 800 core with this TOP BIOS. maybe i'll mod my original BIOS and see if the same clocks work for me.

[purecain]

@xMrBunglex-nice find pal... best looking coolers i've seen yet...

@Blkout-no volt mods on memory... same system same speed, the gddr5 on both cards has the exact same issue... imo they have suffered from degradation...

[korrupted]

Korrupted, maybe you and i are in the same boat. i'm not game stable over 800 core with this TOP BIOS. maybe i'll mod my original BIOS and see if the same clocks work for me.

I think we could be; it took a full uninstall and reinstall of driver twice before I was back to normal, after I re-flashed back to the original. Running fine at previous speeds of 790/1100 again.

I added a 3rd stick of DDR to my rig yesterday prior to having issues, but they didn't crop up immediately, and I've had this same DIMM in my rig previously, with no problems. I did end up moving the slot it was in, just for the heck of it, after I had re-flashed back to original. Doubtful it was related, but it's a possibility. I'll test again at some point but I didn't like not being able to game yesterday.

[Rick Flair]

I think we could be; it took a full uninstall and reinstall of driver twice before I was back to normal, after I re-flashed back to the original. Running fine at previous speeds of 790/1100 again.

I added a 3rd stick of DDR to my rig yesterday prior to having issues, but they didn't crop up immediately, and I've had this same DIMM in my rig previously, with no problems. I did end up moving the slot it was in, just for the heck of it, after I had re-flashed back to original. Doubtful it was related, but it's a possibility. I'll test again at some point but I didn't like not being able to game yesterday.


I noticed that if you flash a new BIOS, edit the fan speeds in the BIOS you are using, or edit the fan speeds in the profile manager, you should run AMDgpuTool to reset the card and drivers, I described how to do this earlier on in this thread.

Seems that the drivers remember certain settings even after a BIOS change and/or reboot and above method is only way I figured out how to reset them without having to wipe the driver and reinstall it.

[Rick Flair]

Well after a little GPU vmod a 32ohm resistor yielded 1.34 volts (looks nice and clean) and this ASUS BIOS I am stable at 825 core, tested with ATItools artifact free for over one hour. :)

Although the fan profile in this BIOS was good I edited the BIOS to fan speeds more to my liking, with vmod GPU idle's at 46c with 40% fan speed, and peaks at 64c with 50% fan speed.

[s1Lv3r]

i flash my sapphire 4870 looks fine but when i try to run 3dmark 06 sm3.0 tests not working and try to start GRID i have an error your graphic card not support sm3.0 :( when i flash org. bios there is no problem wait any idea

[AriciU]

I'm having a very wierd problem. I'm using this bios on both cards and 8.8 beta drivers. I didn't try with 8.7 yet but i don't know if drivers could be causing this.

Anyway, the problem only happens in 2d stuff (desktop) and i can't replicate it on the fly. It's very random. I just browse the net and stuff and for some reason the display turns off, both cards spin their fans at 100% and it just sits like that. Windows still works but i get no display. I have to reboot to get it to work again. It's very annoying and very noisy :)

Anyone else getting this crap?

[xMrBunglex]

what you're describing almost sounds like GPU Recover. try reinstalling the driver (or installing the 8.7 driver) and see if the problem goes away.

[AriciU]

I reinstalled 8.7 and everything is fine.

[Brave758]

mate could be the PSU ive heard that corsair psu and hd4xxx series cards don't play nice together?

[twwen2]

That's not good. I've got a HX620 and was about to install my 4870. Can you elabourate on the problems?

[babalouj]

I have an HX620 and a 4870, no problems here.

[Harshal]

I am not sure if I have it working fine or not.

This is what happened today for me:
I download mentioned [latest] ATiFlash and BIOS. I take backup of my Jetway 4870 BIOS with GPU-Z 0.26. I flash my card with ASUS.ROM using "atiflash -p -f 0 asus.rom" flashes fine. I restart. Vista 3-4 mins everything ok... then screen starts to break away. Within seconds its a chess board instead of a desktop. Crash. It boots and crashes @ desktop loading. After that it doesnt POST... BlackOps LED POST shows "2b" and I think its da CODE for GFX not found or not present or something. My card from HK, dead in India. Drama. I put my old 6600GT and flash back to original bios. Again it flashes fine. Restart. "2b". I am swearing @ this thread :p: Back to my office from Bench-room. Then I ask around on MSN and also read. M friend "Funky" tells me about "-newbios" switch and accidently I stumble upon it in this thread. Back to bench-room and more flashes. Flash, Again everything ok. boots fine. Screen still tearing up as it boots Vista. After 2-3 mins it crashes. I try to flash original one again without "-newbios". Posts fine. I flash original again with "-newbios". It boots vista with much less tears. Then it suddenly improves. I reinstall driver and it stays on without crashing. Restart and fire up Vantage @ stock speed. done. bump speeds -790/1100. Crash. 790/1000 crash. 790/950. Works. 825/950 strange but crash. 825/925. Works fine. Vantage stable as of now. :shrug:

I think ASUS bios even tho working for all most everyone except me may have bad effect on rare cards like mine. Not saying its bad or anything. Just may not work with all cards OR have side effect of real bad GDDR5 degradation. I will still try to flash my card to ASUS.ROM again 2moro :D One Last try!

[AriciU]

mate could be the PSU ive heard that corsair psu and hd4xxx series cards don't play nice together?

Nah. It was the drivers. I'm using the 8.7's again and XP and the problem is gone. 8.8's work fine on Vista64 though and they fly thru everything. 40FPS on Crysis very high 1680 :D

http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_crysis-vista64-veryhigh-40fps.jpg (http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/crysis-vista64-veryhigh-40fps.jpg)

[LuxZg]

Nah. It was the drivers. I'm using the 8.7's again and XP and the problem is gone. 8.8's work fine on Vista64 though and they fly thru everything. 40FPS on Crysis very high 1680 :D
IMAGE (http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/crysis-vista64-veryhigh-40fps.jpg)

WOW! :shocked: Nice score for 1680x1050 in DX10&64bit :clap:
I get just 22fps in 1280x1024 with my setup in DX10/64bit/very high :( But it's still playable on those settings, so I won't be spending another 700-800$ for getting your framerates :D Specially since it's just one game :rofl:

[LagunaX]

Have you guys seen this thread?
4870 Diamond XOC BE BIOS (CCC upto 990MHz/1200MHz)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196721

[GAR]

Have you guys seen this thread?
4870 Diamond XOC BE BIOS (CCC upto 990MHz/1200MHz)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196721

Yes, i dont know why this is more popular, but both bios's look good, im wondering which is actually better.

[purecain]

the fan profile is better on this bios.... keeps gpu at 60c....

[AriciU]

WOW! :shocked: Nice score for 1680x1050 in DX10&64bit :clap:
I get just 22fps in 1280x1024 with my setup in DX10/64bit/very high :( But it's still playable on those settings, so I won't be spending another 700-800$ for getting your framerates :D Specially since it's just one game :rofl:

Here's two runs with Crossfire disabled, single card. 1280x1024 very high and 1680x1050 very high. I think it scores the same as a GTX280 at 1680 very high.

http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_crysysvh_1280_single.jpg (http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/crysysvh_1280_single.jpg)

http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_crysysvh_1680_single.jpg (http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/crysysvh_1680_single.jpg)

[LagunaX]

Flashed my new Visiontek hd4870 to the Asus Top bios. Runs fine 3dmark06/Vantage.
Initially wasn't impressed as my 8800gts 512mb @ 800/2000 scored 15022 and the hd4870 Top bios scored 15331 - thought it would be higher.
However, then ran Vantage. OC'ed 8800gts 512mb P6307 with game fps 16 and 17. Asus Top hd4870 scored P8357 with game fps 24 and 25.
Here is a screenie after the autotune in catalyst. Failed 3dmark06 but passed Vantage though a little choppy at times. What an oven and what a card!
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jhchang69/AsusTopBiosAutotuneVantage.jpg

The XFX 8800gts will be going toEbay or here pretty soon, lol. Actually the e8400 too as my e8600 is in the mail =).

[LuxZg]

Here's two runs with Crossfire disabled, single card. 1280x1024 very high and 1680x1050 very high. I think it scores the same as a GTX280 at 1680 very high.

Thanks for the scores! Now I can compare a bit.. looks like I'll have to invest in a bit better CPU over time anyway :)

[BulldogPO]

I just flashed this bios to Sapphire card, soon to find out is there any difference.

[jhero]

I backed up my original diamond bios and edited it with the same fan profile as this one but lowered all the fan percentages of the thresholds. I now idle at 60-61 instead of 77-78 at 25% fan speed. 25% seems to be the speed that works best for me at idle in terms of noise to cooling ratio. During gaming, the fan stays around 30-35% and I prefer it this way than the occasional burst of 100% fan speed from the original bios. My load stays under 75-76c

If anyone wants, I can post a screenshot of the profile

[LuxZg]

Please do! Sounds like it works pretty fine, since it's 800MHZ overclocked card..

[jhero]

Please do! Sounds like it works pretty fine, since it's 800MHZ overclocked card..

Here is what I use, at idle I'm doing 62-63, full load in games it gets to 77 max

If you oc, might have to raise the fans a bit

[LagunaX]

Switched to Catalyst 8.8.
Atiwinflashed a couple of times to see which was the best bios for my stock Visiontek HD4870:

Visiontek HD4870, stock cooler. e8600 @ 4.3ghz.
Catalyst 8.8, Futuremark Vantage

Diamond XOC bios 795/1100: P8762 GPU 8783 CPU 8701 1st 2 tests FPS 24.87/26.62 Idle 78c Load 85c

Asustek Top bios 815/925 : P8775 GPU 8838 CPU 8593 1st 2 tests FPS 25.09/26.72 Idle 54c Load 65c

Asus Top autotune: 865/1090

Diamond XOC autotune: 835/1150

Impression: At least on my Visiontek card (stock cooler) the Diamond XOC bios would pass Vantage BUT did not entirely seem stable as would rarely artifact but annoyingly would stutter and jump frames.
On the otherhand, the Asustek Top bios was very smooth and stable. Additionally idle and load temps were much better. Seems to be the better bios with stock cooling.

Additionally from Catalyst 8.7 to 8.8 on the Asus Top bios Vantage scores went from P8357 (24/25) to P8775 (25/26) =)

[MaxT]

Holy crap, this is amazing. :)

Flashed this on my powercolor 4870 512MB.
Idle temps before 82: after: 60. Fan speed increased by 10%, so did the noise a little bit, but very tolerable.

Will test overdrive and 3d stability later.

Thanks!

[DefStar]

I'm having a very wierd problem. I'm using this bios on both cards and 8.8 beta drivers. I didn't try with 8.7 yet but i don't know if drivers could be causing this.

Anyway, the problem only happens in 2d stuff (desktop) and i can't replicate it on the fly. It's very random. I just browse the net and stuff and for some reason the display turns off, both cards spin their fans at 100% and it just sits like that. Windows still works but i get no display. I have to reboot to get it to work again. It's very annoying and very noisy :)

Anyone else getting this crap?

Yes, I have a Sapphire 4870 also and while running 8.7 drivers twice I had my display go out and the fan rev up just like you described. Now, I changed my drivers to 8.8 official today and I lost my display four times within an hour same problem as you described. So, I flashed back to the Sapphire bios and I'm having no problem with the 8.8 drivers now... Their is some kind of problem.

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

Can I remove the OC limit if I dump my original bios and change it with RBE ?

[holwill]

Yes, I have a Sapphire 4870 also and while running 8.7 drivers twice I had my display go out and the fan rev up just like you described. Now, I changed my drivers to 8.8 official today and I lost my display four times within an hour same problem as you described. So, I flashed back to the Sapphire bios and I'm having no problem with the 8.8 drivers now... Their is some kind of problem.

Having exactly the same issue's, but they only started after 4 days of having cat's 8.8. Just flashed back to a newer Sapphire bios from tech powerup and I now have max overdrive clocks in ccc of 850/1200, this is a newer bios than my card came with. I had to use this one as my original bios I backed up would not load, although rbe reads it perfectly ok.:shrug:

[DefStar]

Having exactly the same issue's, but they only started after 4 days of having cat's 8.8. Just flashed back to a newer Sapphire bios from tech powerup and I now have max overdrive clocks in ccc of 850/1200, this is a newer bios than my card came with. I had to use this one as my original bios I backed up would not load, although rbe reads it perfectly ok.:shrug:

Yeah, I am also using that bios from TechPowerUp, I did not back up my original. But I am having no problems with it so far. Also, when I flashed to the Sapphire bios I put my pci express on auto, as opposed to 105. I doubt that matters though. I will let you know if I have any problems.

[8800's@over]

Let speeds card in 795/4400Mhz (Stable) has a problem?
It can reduce the useful life of GDDR5?

Cold cards.

[ultimate11]

I'm having a very wierd problem. I'm using this bios on both cards and 8.8 beta drivers. I didn't try with 8.7 yet but i don't know if drivers could be causing this.

Anyway, the problem only happens in 2d stuff (desktop) and i can't replicate it on the fly. It's very random. I just browse the net and stuff and for some reason the display turns off, both cards spin their fans at 100% and it just sits like that. Windows still works but i get no display. I have to reboot to get it to work again. It's very annoying and very noisy :)

Anyone else getting this crap?

same exact problem here what is wrong ? if i try to install anything over 8.7 system is unstable even if i am gaming or not .. anyone else having the same problem or fix for this ?

i am using his 4870 flashed to top asus bios and even 8.9 is giving the same problem while 8.7 is rock stable (winxp)

[lee_ang16]

I was just wondering if this flash would work with the DIAMOND 4870PE51G Radeon HD 4870 1GB. I've noticed that most people using this flash have a 512 mb memory. Does the memory size make a difference?

Thanks,
Lee

[Rattle]

best driver since 8.6 hotfix for me and using the asus bios i havnt had any weirdness unless i installed the beta drivers.

[xMrBunglex]

I was just wondering if this flash would work with the DIAMOND 4870PE51G Radeon HD 4870 1GB. I've noticed that most people using this flash have a 512 mb memory. Does the memory size make a difference?

Thanks,
Lee

no, you'll want to use a BIOS made specifically for 1GB models. don't use the BIOSes we're using.

[Simsons2]

Is it possible to flash bios from OS? Like it was with 1900XT to XTX?
If its not possible , is it possible to do it from bootable cd-rom? If yes please , someone , make a tutorial - i would really be thankful

[xMrBunglex]

Is it possible to flash bios from OS? Like it was with 1900XT to XTX?
If its not possible , is it possible to do it from bootable cd-rom? If yes please , someone , make a tutorial - i would really be thankful

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3177165&postcount=35

[Simsons2]

Thanks man - it worked.:up:

[georgesod]

Is there any bios for the 4870's with 1 gb ram?

[Paulo Jorge]

Is there any bios for the 4870's with 1 gb ram?

Here's one at techpowerup : http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/21365/Powercolor.HD4870.1024.080819.html

Core: 800Mhz
Memory: 925Mhz

Don't know if it's the default or not

[Caped Crusader]

Here's one at techpowerup : http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/21365/Powercolor.HD4870.1024.080819.html

Core: 800Mhz
Memory: 925Mhz

Don't know if it's the default or not

Nope, those are not reference clocks. I advise everyone to be careful about flashing your cards with a 4870 1Gb BIOS with DDR5 frequency above stock. 1GB 4870's use double density DDR5 chips and they are more sensitive to higher frequencies.

My Sapphire 4870 1Gb can't take anything above 920Mhz (3680Mhz effective, even with the fan on full 100% duty) without getting massive artifacts all over the screen. I've seen people taking 4870 512Mb cards as high as 4000Mhz, and while they're being successful with those chips, somehow I don't think the 1Gb versions will go that high without dying or without a voltmod...

I'd be very careful with that.

[Lumske]

So. Now that I had it installed, I tried to revert back to my backed up club3d BIOS. And it didn't work (blank screen). Nothing seemed to help, so I installed a spare 8600GT on the first PCI-e slot and the 4870 on the second in order to gain picture, and I succeeded in booting to dos with it. Then with atiflash I checked the current bios version of my 4870 and it sure was the Club3D one. So I figured maybe I'll try to reinstall it to see if it helps and I noticed that the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS was twice as large as my Club3D original backup. So my guess was that the original backup didn't quite succeed. I reflashed the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS on the card and it came back alive.

But I would like to have the original BIOS just in case I need it. And since it seems my backup isn't worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:, is there any other place I can get that BIOS from?

Edit: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/18171/Club3D.HD4870.512.080609.html


how did you reflash?

[truehighroller]

I just bought one of these and I was able to get 850 / 1150 last night with my stock BIOS that came with it is this good?

[NapalmV5]

Here's one at techpowerup : http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/21365/Powercolor.HD4870.1024.080819.html

Core: 800Mhz
Memory: 925Mhz

Don't know if it's the default or not

thanks!

works great on my sapphire 4870 1GB

stock bios @ stuck 950mhz mem

powercolor bios
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8462/4870co2.jpg

no vmods/stock voltages

[ghost_recon88]

So is this Asus one the best, or this Diamond one (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196721), or this other one (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3236290&postcount=37)? :confused:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

this asus one is very very good, excellent profiles and such

[v3rax]

Here's one at techpowerup : http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/21365/Powercolor.HD4870.1024.080819.html

Core: 800Mhz
Memory: 925Mhz

Don't know if it's the default or not

So is the only 1gb BIOS anyone has found or tested yet? I just got an ASUS 1gb 4870 and want to try this BIOS flashing but want to make sure I am using one that someone has used and succeeded with.

[NapalmV5]

flashes fine via atiflash :up:

sapphire @ powercolor bios + after vmods.. stock cooler/air cooling

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2458/9601090lc2.gif

begs to be cooled by the phase

[Caveman787]

Wow amazing oc after vmod....highest I've seen yet.

Bet that flies...Voltage? Temps? Vantage? etc.

[NapalmV5]

i havent monitored voltages yet.. i just went by trying different fixed resistors

temp is @ 40/below 40 C but full load is too much for the stock cooler/air

i can bench anywhere from 900-940 core/~1090 mem

ive never bothered with vantage

[truehighroller]

This the highest I can get on stock voltages, is it good?


http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2893/stockue5.jpg (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stockue5.jpg)

[Hatori_Hanzo]

I have Connect3d 4870 512mb,and I just flashed it like this thread http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=270097 and I killed the card even I got "successful" after flashing like the guide on dos mode,the screen go blank and the card died:confused:,I got new one same card yesterday :yepp: and Im afraid to flash him.can you help me with this please and tell me what I did wrong? what bios ver. I need to flash my card and guide to flash?
this is my card: Connect3D Radeon HD4870 OC 512MB AC Twint Turbo DDR5 PCIe
http://www.foxpc.co.il/UploadImages/634586_20AOC.jpg
thank you and I hope for an answer

Hatori_Hanzo

[SubtleOne]

I have Connect3d 4870 512mb,and I just flashed it like this thread http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=270097 and I killed the card even I got "successful" after flashing like the guide on dos mode,the screen go blank and the card died:confused:,I got new one same card yesterday :yepp: and Im afraid to flash him.can you help me with this please and tell me what I did wrong? what bios ver. I need to flash my card and guide to flash?
this is my card: Connect3D Radeon HD4870 OC 512MB AC Twint Turbo DDR5 PCIe

Well, the question is what you hope to gain by flashing the BIOS.

My card is a reference design Gainward 4870(512), running very well, with a very bad fan profile. It alternated from 22% (silent) to the sound of a jet turbine, with little between the two. Idle was at 77 C. and load at over 90C. I wasn't happy.

You have a card that comes OCed and has a good cooling system. Are you unsatisfied with it? Is it too loud?

[Hatori_Hanzo]

its not loud at all,the temp are good(44C idle,51c load),I OC limited to 800/1100..I have good air cooling and I want more OC..thats the main reason..

[Caveman787]

Hatori, Hows the voltage regulator and memory cooling on that card?

Just wondering because it seem's some have good gpu cooling but they don't put anything on the memory or VRM's and that's not good.

[Hatori_Hanzo]

the voltage regulator and memory cooling are good,anyone can help with my problem please?

[SubtleOne]

its not loud at all,the temp are good(44C idle,51c load),I OC limited to 800/1100..I have good air cooling and I want more OC..thats the main reason..

You can use Rivatuner 2.11. I don't think it accepts hotfix#2 (driver v8.55.1), but it does accept the previous one.

If you really insist on editing your BIOS, here is how I did it in Vista 64:

1) I create a directory called C:\Bios and put RBE 1.17, Atiwinflash (and files), and the BIOS in it.

2) I edit the BIOS with RBE 1.17 and save it with an easy name ("New4870bios.rom") in C:\Bios.

3) I uninstall the CCC drivers. It asks to reboot, I refuse and click on "cancel".

4) I open the Command Prompt and type "CD.." two times. I then type "CD Bios".

5) I am careful the HD is not running (red light is off) as I don't want anything that might interrupt the operation.

6) I type "Atiwinflash -p -f 0 New4870Bios.rom". (that is a zero after -f, not the letter O)

7) Vista asks permission to continue, I click Allow, and then wait. After it is finished, it asks to reboot, and I click Ok. If it is NOT successful, I will reflash immediately, and not reboot (though this never happened, and I've flashed a half dozen times already).

8) After rebooting, I install the drivers, and that is it.

BTW, how is the card cooling the VRM? Special heatsinks?

[Think]

I have the Asus 4870x2 and installed the latest drivers but the default speed for overclocking is 800 and 1000....I'm confused.:confused::confused::confused::confused:: confused:

[Hatori_Hanzo]

You can use Rivatuner 2.11. I don't think it accepts hotfix#2 (driver v8.55.1), but it does accept the previous one.

If you really insist on editing your BIOS, here is how I did it in Vista 64:

1) I create a directory called C:\Bios and put RBE 1.17, Atiwinflash (and files), and the BIOS in it.

2) I edit the BIOS with RBE 1.17 and save it with an easy name ("New4870bios.rom") in C:\Bios.

3) I uninstall the CCC drivers. It asks to reboot, I refuse and click on "cancel".

4) I open the Command Prompt and type "CD.." two times. I then type "CD Bios".

5) I am careful the HD is not running (red light is off) as I don't want anything that might interrupt the operation.

6) I type "Atiwinflash -p -f 0 New4870Bios.rom". (that is a zero after -f, not the letter O)

7) Vista asks permission to continue, I click Allow, and then wait. After it is finished, it asks to reboot, and I click Ok. If it is NOT successful, I will reflash immediately, and not reboot (though this never happened, and I've flashed a half dozen times already).

8) After rebooting, I install the drivers, and that is it.

BTW, how is the card cooling the VRM? Special heatsinks?

in previous flash I got successful also and then the card died after reboot(screen go blank permanently)..are you sure wich bios ROM I should use for my card?

[SubtleOne]

in previous flash I got successful also and then the card died after reboot(screen go blank permanently)..are you sure wich bios ROM I should use for my card?

You seem to not understand. I suggested you use Rivatuner if you want to OC. There is no reason to edit the BIOS.

[Hatori_Hanzo]

Im trying..I understand that you suggesting OC from a software,I just installed the new catalyst 8.11..are you know a software that support overclocking with this driver? cause RT 2.11 doesnt..

b.t.w

I know that on motherboards for example some bioses better to get more performance,Im just thinking that this is the same on GPU...in CCC I can OC the GPU max to 800MHZ and I see people here get better results..in my case,my current default bios that came with the card can limit me to OC from a software to those results?

EDIT:

ok,I uninstall the new driver and reinstall 8.10(non hotfix),now riva tuner 2.11 work perfectly.Im now 850/1100..there is a tool that find automatic the best clocks for GPU & memory? and how I check stability?

[SubtleOne]

Im trying..I understand that you suggesting OC from a software,I just installed the new catalyst 8.11..are you know a software that support overclocking with this driver? cause RT 2.11 doesnt..

b.t.w

I know that on motherboards for example some bioses better to get more performance,Im just thinking that this is the same on GPU...in CCC I can OC the GPU max to 800MHZ and I see people here get better results..in my case,my current default bios that came with the card can limit me to OC from a software to those results?

EDIT:

ok,I uninstall the new driver and reinstall 8.10(non hotfix),now riva tuner 2.11 work perfectly.Im now 850/1100..there is a tool that find automatic the best clocks for GPU & memory? and how I check stability?

My number one test for stability is 3DMark06. I run it 2-3 times (I remove the CPU tests), and if it completes with no problems, there is a good chance the OC is stable. It will show stability problems before other tests. 3DMark Vantage is weaker for this. My second test is the Crysis Benchmark (Benchmark_gpu and Assault Harbor), but you can only use this benchmark if you have Crysis installed.

[doronav02]

does anyone have the crossfire disabled in the gpu-z?
maybe its because of the asus top bios?
please just experts
thanks

[fine]

Hi there.
I need some help with my Asus EAH4870 512mb.
The fan is running at 50% idle. So i tried that bios from the "Top" vers .
But that i only give me a black scene. So i have to flash back to the org.bios
Is there any way that i can mod this bios .
The volt i only 1.203 i my bios ?

[chew*]

Finally found my floppy in my pile of old parts and had some time to do this.

Flashed from dos obviously :rolleyes: no problems first try, uninstalled drivers, reinstalled drivers ( this is a must imo)

Card is 100% stable with bios. Brand is visiontek.

For those on the fence. Before and after 3d06 comparison. NOTE (cpu real speed is 3.2g, bug with the maxximus board and x8 multi which is why the score appears low.) I like the fan profile, keeps my card at 53C/57C idle/load.

Visiontek bios stock
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8967323

Asus top bios stock
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9124834

[chew*]

On a side note it seems this card is bottlenecked with higher clocks, maybe by my cpu at 3.2

Asus top bios is 15mhz increase in core 25mhz increase in memory netting a 400 pt increase.

Cards top stable is 850/975 with stock cooling and no manual fan control however it only scores 16550 etc its no longer scaling.

With the bios it went up 400 points however with a 35mhz more increase in core and 50mhz more in memory it only goes up 300pts.

[gurusan]

Is there any way to reduce the idle voltage below the setting in the supported voltages table in RBE? I am currently using a sapphire bios on my 4870 and want to vmod it with a permanent fixed resistor. If I could set the idle voltage in the bios for like .8V or so then that would get me around a 1V idle with the vmod.

[FabricioGS]

I have a HIS HD 4870 512MB card and I used to CO with CCC up to ~780/980. Then I flashed to this bios and I'm stable at 840/1050 (maybe I can squeeze some more, but that'll be around that). I'm on stock cooling and don't want to make vmods (the max I would do is change the default TIM for an artic silver).

My question is: why nobody edit this bios to the best clocks you can do on CCC? I mean.. why still use CCC for OC? I'm sure the answer is related to the next question so, I tried to flash my card with clocks higher then 800/1000 but the screen keeps flickering sometimes (I'm guessing this is the correct term in english since I'm not a native speaker), specially when I start GPU-z for instance or during Futuremarks 05/06. I would like to use an stable oc, driver/software independent. Why that happens with the OC from the bios but not when using CCC?

[Markmk]

i got it. he was a bit of a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about it, but W1zzard walked me through it :p:. i'll spread the word so nobody else has to bother him.

USING ATI WINFLASH TO FLASH YOUR BIOS

you have to run it through the command prompt.

Step 1: create a new folder in the root directory of your C drive (so you can easily navigate to it in DOS).

Step 2: copy all the ATI WinFlash files and the new BIOS to this new folder.

Step 3: open command prompt and navigate to your new folder.

Step 4: use the normal ATIFlash command: "atiwinflash -f -p 0 4870.rom"

it should take a minute or two to flash. it will tell you to reboot. you'll have to reinstall your video driver. but everything worked for me after that.

WARNING: if you don't get a successful confirmation at the end of the flash, make sure you flash it again before you reboot. you will brick your card if you reboot before a successful flash.

OK i followed these instructions to the letter but after a reboot i dont get a picture. Its hangs on the boot with the LCD POSTER saying VGA BIOS. Ive put my spare 6600 in so i can at least ask how do i fix this? Can i put the 4870 in the second PCI-E slot and flash my old bios back on or will i have to do a blind flash with it in the first PCI-E slot. Any help you can give will be greatly recieved.

[chew*]

I need a new unlocked bios. Runs fine 860/1100 with stock air, once i toss my water chiller online i'm going to run out of slider bar clocks on the gpu as well :(

[LagunaX]

Finally found my floppy in my pile of old parts and had some time to do this.

Flashed from dos obviously :rolleyes: no problems first try, uninstalled drivers, reinstalled drivers ( this is a must imo)

Card is 100% stable with bios. Brand is visiontek.

For those on the fence. Before and after 3d06 comparison. NOTE (cpu real speed is 3.2g, bug with the maxximus board and x8 multi which is why the score appears low.) I like the fan profile, keeps my card at 53C/57C idle/load.

Visiontek bios stock
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8967323

Asus top bios stock
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9124834

Mine is a visiontek as well and is 100% stable.
Flashed with atiwinflash from windows vista thru accessories cmd prompt no problems...:up:

[chew*]

Mine is a visiontek as well and is 100% stable.
Flashed with atiwinflash from windows vista thru accessories cmd prompt no problems...:up:

See how high it can go now :D I still ran out of ram clocks......need the bios unlocked so i can go past 1100 ram

[Godmyster]

Hey,

i dunno if this is a problem or not but i was doing a little OC on my card and noticed that the memory wont pass 1050, starts getting artafacts in 3dmark2006 and GPU freezes at 840, so like if i want to OC the card and get it to pass without artafacts and freezing i have to do like 830/1050, is this a problem with these cards from sapphire? is it possible to resolve this? like with a diferente bios or something like that?

Here is the model that im talking about..

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/productfiles/250specimage.jpg

http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=250&grp=3

Thanks